Re: Fwd: why is death painful? - Validity and Morality of QS
--part1_2c1021c2.248eb3c5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-06-08 02:04:53 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think we are touching on the BIG PROBLEM that will concern the ethicisists of the 21th century and beyond. How to give meaning to physical life and counter QS in view of the MWI. For if we do not find a reason to counter QS the future of the human race is doomed (in most worlds) if the concept of measure can be quantified in any ways. The problem of QS and Quantum Immortality is major and, as the reality of Quantum theory trickles down into the general public and becomes familiar, these issues will probably become the most important moral dilemma of the future. Most recent posts have only been preaching to the choir and I am one of them. We need all the devil's advocates we can find. Are we or are we not immortal? Is QS Good or Evil? Do we want to become big fish in a small pond or small fish in a big pond? (I.e., restrict the measure of the world we perceive for our own benefit, OR allow ourselves to propagate as much as possible through the MW and suffer the strings of outrageous fortune. Let's hear some strong clear and convincing arguments opposing QS. Jacques Mallah were are you? Why is this important? It is clear that QS as a meme has low survival value, and so would not propagate through the whole human population. Most of the humans that share our own here and now will believe that suicide is not worth it (for whatever reason). Those that do will die in our universe and therefore be irrelevant to it, and have little influence over what the bulk of the population believes. Dr. Russell StandishDirector High Performance Computing Support Unit, University of NSW Phone 9385 6967 Sydney 2052 Fax 9385 7123 Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Room 2075, Red Centre http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks
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Re: Q Wars Episode 10^9: the Phantom Measure
Higgo James wrote: Well said, but I'm not sure your definition of 'I' holds. There are infinitely many 'Chris Maloneys' born in a hospital of the same name of parents of the same name... etc etc etc who are in no way connected with you. Besides, these identifiers are all social naming conventions. And perhaps you'll change your name tomorrow. Okay, you're right. I was just trying to define a root of the tree somewhere. Perhaps I should have said, go back in time along the thread that me-here-now is on, to the exact time of my birth, and then define that thing as C(0,{}). There are still conceivably problems with that, if you consider that worlds might fuse as well as split, then there's no unique path back in time. But another point I was trying to make, and which you emphasize when you say perhaps you'll change your name tomorrow, is that there are people walking around who are me in the sense that they are in the set C(t,B), but who have very little resemblance to me-here-now. So you have to be careful when using terms like me, or even me-like objects. -- Chris Maloney http://www.chrismaloney.com Knowledge is good -- Emil Faber