Re: Observer Moment or Observer Space?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 09:29:40PM -0500, Hal Ruhl wrote: As I understand your Theory of Nothing book the Everything in it has or at least contains time like components [time postulate]. I agree but apparently for a different reason. In your reply to Jason you allowed that the OM machine [our machines also apparently differ] could have an extent in space as well. This seems to require the Everything to have space like aspects. Actually if it contains one dimension in a real sense to avoid selection it should contain more. If it has time and space aspects what prevents it from having material aspects? Until now I had felt that the Everything did not require space or material aspects but I am reconsidering the possibility. The time postulate is a requirement of observerhood. I'm not sure this means that time-like components are in the Everything, but I can accept this is possible. I don't know of any similar requirement for space, but I have tossed around some ideas to do with embedding dimension of networks. It is still very much an open question. What does it mean to have a material aspect? As I understand your response to Jason you allow two different observers [a fly and a human] in the same universe to have different OM durations and I do not see this. Perhaps I do not understand your response. Did you intend to have them in the same universe? Yours Hal Ruhl Sharing the same universe is I suppose equivalent to being able to communicate. Rather than a conscious fly, it might be easier to imagine an AI that works much faster than human intelligence, thus having smaller OM durations, but still able to communicate with humans (eg via a teletype interface). It would be interesting to see how different the perspective is. -- A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Mathematics UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australiahttp://www.hpcoders.com.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Neuroquantology
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/04/01/poltergeists-and-qua.html I think that answers that question On 28/03/2008, Russell Standish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just had a cold call from an editor of a fairly new journal called NeuroQuantology (http://www.neuroquantology.com/), which has its focus area on the intersection of cognitive science and quantum physics. The nature of this topic, of cause, gives rise to no end of kookiness, but this doesn't mean there isn't a serious subject here waiting to be explored (indeed this is a major theme of my book Theory of Nothing). I was wondering if anyone has had experience of this journal, and whether its publishing standards are as rigorous as they claim. They claim to be indexed by ISI (they're not in the 2006 JCR, but since they only claimed to have just received ISI indexing, that is not suprising). Some of the paper titles look intriguing, but you have to register in order to download abstracts, so I haven't done that yet. Cheers -- A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Mathematics UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australiahttp://www.hpcoders.com.au -- They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist- Last words of Gen. John Sedgwick, spoken as he looked out over the parapet at enemy lines during the Battle of Spotsylvania in 1864. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Observer Moment or Observer Space?
Hi Russell: You wrote: The time postulate is a requirement of observerhood. I'm not sure this means that time-like components are in the Everything, but I can accept this is possible. I don't know of any similar requirement for space, but I have tossed around some ideas to do with embedding dimension of networks. It is still very much an open question. What does it mean to have a material aspect? I see my model as requiring a time like aspect induced by the evolution triggering endurance meaningful question. Selecting out space like aspects would inject net information into the Everything - the out selection - so given a time dimension space dimensions seem unavoidable. I have constructed models in which matter is itself just a distortion of [a discrete point] space time. If applicable, these types of matter models would make matter a direct consequence of the space and time aspects. Sharing the same universe is I suppose equivalent to being able to communicate. Rather than a conscious fly, it might be easier to imagine an AI that works much faster than human intelligence, thus having smaller OM durations, I take this as indicating that you hold that something [information processing?] is going on during an observer moment. This is as in your book as I understand it so far. I do not see this in my model. In my model an observer moment is a fixed state terminated by a transition to the next state. The selection of a next state is in part determined by the incompleteness of the current state which is solely a product of its history and the random sub set of the incompleteness that gets resolved by the state to state transition. Consciousness is inherent in the process of the transition wherein both states momentarily overlap [for lack of a better term], as some incompleteness is resolved [information added] and fresh incompleteness is generated by that resolution. Currently I see each such transition as being a state change for the entire universe supporting it. but still able to communicate with humans (eg via a teletype interface). It would be interesting to see how different the perspective is. Indeed. Hal Ruhl -- A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Mathematics UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australiahttp://www.hpcoders.com.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
