Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-07 Thread John Mikes
Stephen:
I tried. I have difficulty in following fast talking videos in general,
wouold appreciate to have it as URL somewhere.
John Mikes

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Stephen Paul King stephe...@charter.netwrote:

 For your entertainment:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=TbNymweHW4E#!

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Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-07 Thread Stephen Paul King
Yes, if there was a text of this it would be nice... I found this:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fictionalism-mathematics/


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:33 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:

 Stephen:
 I tried. I have difficulty in following fast talking videos in general,
 wouold appreciate to have it as URL somewhere.
 John Mikes

 On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Stephen Paul King 
 stephe...@charter.netwrote:

 For your entertainment:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=TbNymweHW4E#!

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Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-07 Thread meekerdb

On 6/7/2013 4:00 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Yes, if there was a text of this it would be nice... I found this: 
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fictionalism-mathematics/


A fictionalist account holds that some things are fictional, i.e. don't exist even though 
their complete description is self-consistent.  Everythingists apparently reject this 
idea.  Platonists seem to equate 'true' with 'exists'.  If you believe 17 is prime you 
must believe 17 exists.  I think this is wrong.  If you believe that a flying pink 
elephant is pink, must you believe a flying pink elephant exists?


Brent

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Re: Fictionalism!

2013-06-07 Thread Stephen Paul King
 If you believe that a flying pink elephant is pink, must you believe a
flying pink elephant exists?

Yes, at least for the chap that holds the belief and the belief is true
(ala Bruno).


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:15 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:

  On 6/7/2013 4:00 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote:

 Yes, if there was a text of this it would be nice... I found this:
 http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fictionalism-mathematics/


 A fictionalist account holds that some things are fictional, i.e. don't
 exist even though their complete description is self-consistent.
 Everythingists apparently reject this idea.  Platonists seem to equate
 'true' with 'exists'.  If you believe 17 is prime you must believe 17
 exists.  I think this is wrong.  If you believe that a flying pink
 elephant is pink, must you believe a flying pink elephant exists?

 Brent

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