Re: The Buddha Machine?

[Bruce Kellett]

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:24 AM smitra  wrote:

> On 01-10-2020 14:30, Bruce Kellett wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 10:21 PM smitra  wrote:
> >
> >> The set of different experiences is Many Worlds in disguise. Each
> >> experience is a World in its own right.
> >>
> >> Saibal
> >
> > So you wake up into a different parallel world every morning?
> > Right?
> >
> > Bruce
>
> Yes, see here:
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1305.1615
>
> Saibal
>

Just playing with words.

Bruce

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Re: The Handmaid's Tale

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

These were, if memory serves, purchased by the Chinese in the US (they seem to 
have had head's up-saw the vid in March) and sent it back to their families, 
supposedly. Obama, Hillary, Joe, couldn't have done better than shut down 
Chinese flights. They were reluctant to because racism, and money handout$. 
Nancy celebrating Chinese New Year at Chinatown. At this point, I would first 
acknowledge that the US system is an oligarchy of billionaires, and these 
billionaires are funding either fund people you like or people you hate. To 
this I advocate: Know Your Oligarchs! It's the patriotic thing to do! 


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Subject: Re: The Handmaid's Tale

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 3:48 PM  wrote:


> You are aware that the dem controlled cities have police unions, and the 
> kneeling occurred on Minneapolis, with its police union,

And police unions are nearly unanimous in their support of Donald Trump not Joe 
Biden.   

> Orange dude has spent billions on masks and ventilators,

For Darwin's sake! Simple cheap low-tech face masks were in short supply way 
back in February and it's October and they still are! 
 John K Clark



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Re: The Handmaid's Tale

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

You have a point regarding the lonely & pathetic perhaps, and of keeping the 
list, on beam, with questions focused on physics and mathematics. However, as 
Leon Trotsky quipped, "You may not be interested in war, but War is interested 
in you!" Thus, the real world interfered with the lives of scientists such as 
Heisenberg, Turing, Fermi & Einstein. Humans are not only gestated to have 
cerebrums, but amygdalas as well. ;-D


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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: The Handmaid's Tale

How come nobody talks about ToEs anymore on this list? The genre of 
conversation and exchanges I daily read here now are no different to Facebook.  
A once-great science discussion list - now a pathetic shadow of its former 
self. You must all be a bunch of sad and lonely types. Well, at least be HONEST 
: change the name to the "Anything List"

Kim Jones B.Mus GDTL 

On 30 Sep 2020, at 10:21 pm, John Clark  wrote:



On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 6:53 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:


> Don's peeps are not in the streets every night doing arson looting.
 There would be no trouble in the streets if Don's peeps didn't beat black 
people and didn't kneel on the neck of one for eight minutes and 15 seconds 
until he strangled to death, and shot another one while she was sleeping in her 
bed in her home.  And the amount of damage all that arson and looting that has 
been occurring "every night" is not even a rounding error compared to the 
gargantuan amount of economic damage caused by Trump's inept handling of the 
COVID-19 pandemic. As recently as last night Trump was STILL mocking Joe Biden 
for wearing a face mask, something that could've saved about 100,000 American 
lives if Trump and had simply said in January or February that wearing a face 
mask was the patriotic thing to do, his MAGA Hatter Zombies will do anything he 
says, but instead he made face masks part of the idiotic culture wars. No other 
country in the world is wearing a face mask a political statement, but it is in 
the USA.  
 John K Clark



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Re: D-Wave's 5000 qubit computer

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

How do you rate this D-Wave claim as it's know that entanglements yield no 
successful operations? The company produces entanglements, but little 1/0's. I 
hold that when IBM or Honeywell claims 48 qubits per sec, it is not an empty 
claim? Maybe I am wrong, but DWave's qubits are empty operations apparently. It 
obviously produces some successful operations otherwise no customers (NASA?). 
Also,there is the claim by some that when we break 100 qubits per sec, things 
in the real world start looking like The Jetsons or Trek. The impact on 
engineering and chemistry, as it were?


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Subject: D-Wave's 5000 qubit computer



Really?
via https://twitter.com/QZeitgeist/status/1311616740451905536
https://quantumzeitgeist.com/d-wave-announces-generally-available-advantage-quantum-computer-for-businesses-with-5000-qubits/

https://www.dwavesys.com/take-leap

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Re: The Buddha Machine?

[smitra]

On 01-10-2020 14:30, Bruce Kellett wrote:

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 10:21 PM smitra  wrote:


The set of different experiences is Many Worlds in disguise. Each
experience is a World in its own right.

Saibal


So you wake up into a different parallel world every morning?
Right?

Bruce


Yes, see here:

https://arxiv.org/abs/1305.1615

Saibal

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Quantum Computers

[John Clark]

In yesterday's issue of the journal Nature tthere is an article about a new
device that could fit inside a bacterium and can measure changes in
temperature that are extraordinarily tiny and do so with enormous speed.

Bolometer operating at the threshold for circuit quantum electrodynamics


This could be very important to anyone who wants to make a quantum computer
because you could use it to measure the energy of a Qubit, and that is the
most fundamental thing quantum computers do. Normally this is done by
measuring the voltage induced by the Qubit, but this requires a lot of
large amplification circuitry which makes scaling up to more Qubits very
difficult, and the circuitry produces significant amounts of quantum noise.
But this new device requires no additional circuitry, is virtually noise
free, is much smaller, and it needs six orders of magnitude less energy to
run. The device is primarily made from a tiny fleck of Graphene, a 2D sheet
of Carbon atoms.

John K Clark

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Re: The Buddha Machine?

[Bruce Kellett]

On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 10:21 PM smitra  wrote:

> The set of different experiences is Many Worlds in disguise. Each
> experience is a World in its own right.
>
> Saibal
>

So you wake up into a different parallel world every morning? Right?

Bruce

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Re: The Handmaid's Tale

[John Clark]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 5:06 PM Kim Jones  wrote:

> How come nobody talks about ToEs anymore on this list?
>

Maybe because the theory of everything does it yet exist.

John K Clark

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Re: The Buddha Machine?

[smitra]

The set of different experiences is Many Worlds in disguise. Each 
experience is a World in its own right.


Saibal

On 01-10-2020 12:39, Philip Thrift wrote:

I don't think that descries him accurately. His many SciAm articles
are good.

  https://www.scientificamerican.com/author/john-horgan7

He is a skeptic of a lot ,especailly when scientists go off the deep
end - notably MANY WORLDS INTERPRETATION.

@philipthrift

On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:34:07 AM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell
wrote:


John Horgan is a bit into nonsense. He is, as I remember, the end of
science guy who said science was coming to an end. He has made other
pronouncements.

LC

On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:19:47 AM UTC-5 cloud...@gmail.com
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(The Turing Machine processes information. The Buddha Machine
processes experience.)

via

John Horgan

@Horganism

https://twitter.com/Horganism/status/1311583221675692032


https://psychopolitica.substack.com/p/the-laws-of-consciousness

@philipthrift


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D-Wave's 5000 qubit computer

[Philip Thrift]

Really?

via https://twitter.com/QZeitgeist/status/1311616740451905536

https://quantumzeitgeist.com/d-wave-announces-generally-available-advantage-quantum-computer-for-businesses-with-5000-qubits/

https://www.dwavesys.com/take-leap

@philipthrift

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Re: The Buddha Machine?

[Philip Thrift]

I don't think that descries him accurately. His many SciAm articles are 
good.

  https://www.scientificamerican.com/author/john-horgan7

He is a skeptic of a lot ,especailly when scientists go off the deep end - 
notably *Many Worlds Interpretation*.


@philipthrift



On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:34:07 AM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote:

> John Horgan is a bit into nonsense. He is, as I remember, the end of 
> science guy who said science was coming to an end. He has made other 
> pronouncements.
>
> LC
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:19:47 AM UTC-5 cloud...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> (The Turing Machine processes information. The Buddha Machine processes 
>> experience.)
>>
>>
>> via 
>> John Horgan
>> 
>> @Horganism
>> 
>>
>> https://twitter.com/Horganism/status/1311583221675692032
>>
>> https://psychopolitica.substack.com/p/the-laws-of-consciousness
>>
>> @philipthrift
>>
>

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Re: The Buddha Machine?

[Lawrence Crowell]

John Horgan is a bit into nonsense. He is, as I remember, the end of 
science guy who said science was coming to an end. He has made other 
pronouncements.

LC

On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 4:19:47 AM UTC-5 cloud...@gmail.com wrote:

> (The Turing Machine processes information. The Buddha Machine processes 
> experience.)
>
>
> via 
> John Horgan
> 
> @Horganism
> 
>
> https://twitter.com/Horganism/status/1311583221675692032
>
> https://psychopolitica.substack.com/p/the-laws-of-consciousness
>
> @philipthrift
>

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The Buddha Machine?

[Philip Thrift]

(The Turing Machine processes information. The Buddha Machine processes 
experience.)


via 
John Horgan

@Horganism


https://twitter.com/Horganism/status/1311583221675692032

https://psychopolitica.substack.com/p/the-laws-of-consciousness

@philipthrift

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Re: The Handmaid's Tale

[Philip Thrift]

On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-5 Russell Standish 
wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 07:06:44AM +1000, Kim Jones wrote: 
> > How come nobody talks about ToEs anymore on this list? The genre of 
> > conversation and exchanges I daily read here now are no different to 
> Facebook. 
> > A once-great science discussion list - now a pathetic shadow of its 
> former 
> > self. You must all be a bunch of sad and lonely types. Well, at least be 
> HONEST 
> > : change the name to the "Anything List" 
> > 
> > Kim Jones B.Mus GDTL 
> > 
>
> 'Twas ever thus - a madness descends on these lists every four years 
> for around 6 months or so. 
>
>
>
If you scroll down the last list of Topics on the web page

   https://groups.google.com/g/everything-list


*The Handmaid's Tale*
*Carlo Rovelli on the relational interpretation of QM*
*Trump's taxes*
*Physics and AI with Julia*
*Topos of Quantum Gravity*
*Kac-Moody algebra and sporadic and monster groups*
*AlgebraicJulia*
*Bob Woodward's new book "Rage"Trump's Rioting zombies*
*Many Worlds wins another one*
*Neural networks for physics*

*...*

it may seem different.

@philipthrift
 

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