Re: US conducted multi-decade secret UFO program

[Alan Grayson]

Congressman: More witnesses were scared away from UFO hearing (msn.com) 

On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 10:07:48 AM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:

> There was a classified session of the House Oversight Committee and the 
> key, or at least provocative findings. remain classified. AG
>
> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 11:51:05 AM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:
>
>> You can ignore the 5% of UFO events considered enigmatic and inexplicably 
>> still consider yourself a scientist. Sagan had the same view. AG
>>
>> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 5:16:54 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 12:04 AM 'spudb...@aol.com' via Everything List 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Personally, I would like the cosmos to be occupied by evolved, 
 technological, minds.

>>>
>>> Most people feel the same way, that's why such things are so abundant in 
>>> popular culture and you can watch flying saucer or ancient astronaut crap 
>>> on TV just about any time of the day or night. But reality is not required 
>>> to be compatible with human desires. 
>>>
>>> *> Keep watching the skies.*

>>>
>>> I agree, there's a lot of interesting stuff up there, but flying saucers 
>>> are not one of them.
>>>
>>> John K Clark
>>> .,-
>>>
>>

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Re: US conducted multi-decade secret UFO program

[Alan Grayson]

There was a classified session of the House Oversight Committee and the 
key, or at least provocative findings. remain classified. AG

On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 11:51:05 AM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:

> You can ignore the 5% of UFO events considered enigmatic and inexplicably 
> still consider yourself a scientist. Sagan had the same view. AG
>
> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 5:16:54 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 12:04 AM 'spudb...@aol.com' via Everything List <
>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Personally, I would like the cosmos to be occupied by evolved, 
>>> technological, minds.
>>>
>>
>> Most people feel the same way, that's why such things are so abundant in 
>> popular culture and you can watch flying saucer or ancient astronaut crap 
>> on TV just about any time of the day or night. But reality is not required 
>> to be compatible with human desires. 
>>
>> *> Keep watching the skies.*
>>>
>>
>> I agree, there's a lot of interesting stuff up there, but flying saucers 
>> are not one of them.
>>
>> John K Clark
>> .,-
>>
>

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Re: Worms that have been dead for over 45,000 years have been brought back to life

[Jason Resch]

Hamsters and rats can be frozen and reanimated by microwaves:

https://youtu.be/2tdiKTSdE9Y

It was theorized that it would work with larger mammals but the technical
problem is heating the entire animal all at once.

Contrary to the common belief that microwaves heat from the inside out,
they heat from the outside in.

Jason

On Sun, Jul 30, 2023, 7:30 AM John Clark  wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 12:15 AM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List
>  wrote:
>
> *> means of survival, so this looks like evidence to me that you may be
>> correct? *
>>
>
> It's favorable evidence but it doesn't prove that human Cryonics will
> work, however it certainly proves that the old cliché that claims freezing
> and then thawing a cell always turns it into undifferentiated mush is not
> true.  Human Cryonics will be proven to work on the very day it becomes
> obsolete and is no longer needed, the day that Drexler style Nanotechnology
> becomes available .
>
> John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis
> 
>
> )^&
>
>
>
> Scientists have brought back to life Nematode worms that have been buried
>> 130 feet under the Siberian permafrost for between 45,839 and 47,769  years
>> according to Carbon-14 tests. Researchers at the Max Planck Institute in
>> Germany have now bred these worms for over 100 generations (worm
>> generations are about 10 days long) and they say it is a species of
>> Nematode that has never been seen before. They call it "Panagrolaimus
>> kolymaensis". The lead researcher says:
>>
>> *"Basically, you only have to bring the worms into amenable conditions,
>> on a culture (agar) plate with some bacteria, some humidity and room
>> temperature, they just start crawling around then. They also just start
>> reproducing. In this case this is even easier, as it is an all-female
>> (asexual) species. They don‘t need to find males and have sex, they just
>> start making eggs, which develop."*
>>
>> A novel nematode species from the Siberian permafrost shares adaptive
>> mechanisms for cryptobiotic survival with C. elegans dauer larva
>> 
>>
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Re: Worms that have been dead for over 45,000 years have been brought back to life

[John Clark]

On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 7:44 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List <
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*> If we go by Kurzweil, and I am open to his views, that day will be 7
> years away in 2030. His view? Medical nanotechnology that will make K. Eric
> Drexler, a happy primate.*



Drexler didn't say that Nanotechnology will necessarily make human primates
happier, he said that when we enter the age of Nanotechnology things will
become eye-wateringly different. Personally I think the Singularity will be
a meat grinder, an individual might survive it and they might not, there's
no way to tell. That's why they call it a singularity.

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

tyc



If we go by Kurzweil, and I am open to his views, that day will be 7 years
> away in 2030. His view? Medical nanotechnology that will make K. Eric
> Drexler, a happy primate. Perhaps yourself, as well? On the other hand,
> laws and economics will then have to be changed, and you may be forced by
> eddict to pursue income, perhaps off-planet, so as to allow the young folks
> to have gainful employment, IF AI permits this?
>
> Ray Kurzweil: Enhanced Longevity by 2030 (lifeboat.com)
> 
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The most economically productive decade eve

[John Clark]

Mustafa Suleyman had been the head of AI at Google but then he quit and
started his own AI company, Inflection AI, which is backed by Nvidia, he
says in a recent Barron's article that because of AI we are now entering
"the most economically productive decade ever". He also says this about his
own company:

*"We are about to train models that are 10 times larger than the cutting
edge GPT-4 and then 100 times larger than GPT-4. That’s what things look
like over the next 18 months.That’s going to be absolutely staggering. It’s
going to be eye-wateringly different. I think we can largely eliminate
hallucinations* [chatbots’ tendency to make up facts and information]* in
the next two years"*

 Eye-wateringly different, that's not a bad description of the Singularity.

  John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

noo

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