Re: Advaita Vedanta and Leibnizian Metaphysics

2013-12-04 Thread LizR
This sort of thing always depends on how much credence you can give to
ancient religion and philosophy. Yes, [whatever ancient belief] is almost
like [some modern science] ... but generally when you look closely it's
about as related as van Daniken's ancient astronauts are to modern ones. So
we tend not to give ancient teachings any credence -- yet it's at least
possible that mystical experiences give some sort of insight into the truth
of existence, and if so, that some of this has been retained when the
self-interested and literal minded came along and turned it into organised
religion.

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Advaita Vedanta and Leibnizian Metaphysics

2013-12-04 Thread Roger Clough
Advaita Vedanta and Leibnizian Metaphysics 


This is a huge, daunting subject which I can only scratch the surface of. A 
book or PhD thesis could easily be written on 
it and do a much better job than I can here. Keep in mind also that I am not an 
expert on Advaita. 


A brief summary of the Advaita Vedanta is given at 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advaita_Vedanta#Philosophy
 
' "Advaita" (Sanskrit: not-two) refers to the identity of the true Self, Atman, 
which is pure consciousness and the highest Reality, Brahman, 
which is also pure consciousness. Followers seek liberation/release by 
acquiring vidya (knowledge) of the identity of Atman and Brahman. 
Attaining this liberation takes a long preparation and training under the 
guidance of a guru. ' 


Here we will only roughly compare the metaphysics of Leibniz with that of the 
Advaita, not the religious aspects of Advaita.  


Both are essentially Idealist. In general, Brahman, being the highest Reality, 
corresponds to Plato's One, the Creator, but 
Brahman has many more aspects than Plato's One, which I leave to other scholars 
to elucidate.  


Atman corresponds roughly to Leibniz's monad for a person. The relation of a 
person's monad (which I will call Self, 
which is what Leibniz calls a person's spirit,l meaning the conventional soul) 
) to Plato's One (Leibniz's rough correspondence
to Brahman) is similar to Advaita's goal of unity or Advaita between Atman and 
Brahman, but this is not a fixed goal in Leibniz, 
it happens at a rapid pace in rapid sequential steps in Leibniz in everyday 
perception and action, in which the Self is a passive 
slave to the One, its master. So in Leibniz there is never a complete fusion of 
Self and the One as desired in Advaita, The One is the 
active agent in periodic communion with the One much like a shepherd with his 
sheep. 


In Leibniz there is imperfect communion of the Self with other selves, which 
Christianity calls the 
'communion of the saints'. By imperfect is meant that as in all human 
perception, there is some distortion 
to various degrees, depending on the person, which limits the range of 
inter-communion with other saints and the environment. 


Salvation is not clearly defined in Leibniz, as far asI have been able to find 
out, but certainly communion of the 
Self and the One is found pleasurable and enlightening.  


Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] 
See my Leibniz site at 
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough


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