Fw: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

2004-02-26 Thread Eric Cavalcanti
Hi there,

 Well, it is a good try, but it has been proven wrong already indeed.
To see a better refutal, see Feynman's popular book 'QED'.
For instance, that theory seems even better once you realize that it
also acounts for the inverse-square law.
But the main flaw, if I recall it, is that objects moving around in space
would feel a larger flux of 'iGravitons' coming against the direction
of movement, causing a decrease in velocity. So much for inertia...

-Eric.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Hawthorne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 6:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not
pull?


  Caveat: This post will likely demonstrate my complete lack of advanced
  physics education.
 
  But here goes anyway.
 
  Is it possible to model gravity as space being filled with an
  all-directional flux of inverse gravitons? These would be
  particles which:
  1. Zoom around EVERYWHERE with a uniform distribution of velocities (up
  to C in any direction).
  2. Interact weakly with matter, imparting a small momentum to matter (in
  the direction that the iGraviton
  was moving) should they collide with a matter particle. The momentum
  comes at the cost that the
  iGraviton which collided with mass either disappears or at least
  reduces its velocity relative
  to the mass's velocity.
 
  So note that:
  1. If there was just a single mass,  it would not receive any net
  momentum by collisions from iGravitons
  because iGravitons with an even distribution of velocities impact it
  from all sides with equal probability,
  no matter what the mass's velocity. (This is true because C is the same
  for each mass no matter how
  it's travelling, so even distribution of velocities up to C is also
  the same from the perspective of each
  mass regardless of its velocity.
 
  2. If two masses are near each other, they shadow each other from the
  flux of iGravitons which
  would otherwise be impacting them from the direction in between them.
  This shadowing would
  be proportional to the inverse square of the distances between the
  masses, and would be proportional
  to the probability of each mass colliding with (i.e. absorbing)
  iGravitons, and this probability would
  be proportional to the amount of each mass.
  (So the iGraviton shadow between the masses would have properties like a
  gravitational field).
 
  3. The mutual shadowing from momentum-imparting flux from all directions
  means that net momentum
  would be imparted on the masses toward each other (by nothing other than
  the usual collisions
  with iGravitons from all other directions.)
 
  4. The deficit of iGravitons (or deficit in velocity of them) in between
  absorbtive masses
  could be viewed as inward curvature of space-time in that region. Amount
  or velocity distribution
  of iGraviton flux in a region could correspond in some way with the
  dimensionality of space in that region.
 
  I find this theory appealing because
  1. it's fundamental assumption for causation of gravity is simple (a
  uniformly-distributed-in-velocity-and-density
  flux of space-involved (i.e. space-defining) particles.)
  2. The paucity of iGravitons (or high iGraviton velocities) in a region
  corresponding to inward-curving space
  is an appealingly direct analogy. You can visualize iGravitons as
  puffing up space and a lack of them
  causing space there to sag in on itself.
 
  I'd be willing to bet that someone has thought of this long before and
  that it's been proven that
  the math doesn't work out for it. Has anyone heard of anything like
  this? Is it proven silly already?
 
  Cheers,
   Eric
 



Re: Fw: Gravity Carrier - could gravity be push with shadows not pull?

2004-02-26 Thread Eric Hawthorne


Eric Cavalcanti wrote:

But the main flaw, if I recall it, is that objects moving around in space
would feel a larger flux of 'iGravitons' coming against the direction
of movement, causing a decrease in velocity. So much for inertia...
 

Ok but let's say (for fun) that the iGravitons were all moving at C in 
all directions with uniform density.
So since C is perceived the same by an object no matter what the 
objects' velocity, there would
be no additional iGraviton drag against the direction of the object's 
motion. Because the iGravitons
coming up from behind would still be approaching at C.
This property is exactly the property I was trying to convey about the 
iGravitons. That they don't
cause drag no matter the velocity of the mass.

Maybe that's just impossible, but there's something very weird about C 
remember.