Re: Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology

2013-09-15 Thread Roger Clough
Hi spudboy100  

Being (mind, life,consciousness, first person singular) 
isn't part of the spacetime universe.
  
 
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
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Well, its just an idea that fascinates me. Reading Gerhard t'Hooft in the 
1990's sort of set it all in motion. Also Raphael Bousso, in their analysis oh 
the universe as hologram, etc. Are we the chuck of matter, or the reflection 
in the mirror? That kind of thing. 
 
 
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Hi spudboy100  
 
Sure.  
   
  
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One idea I have been kicking around, is viewing through physics, that yes 
mind  
is bran, brain is mind, but not totally. More, precisely, the notion that the  
data, the pattern identity, the mind, the soul, personality, memory (whatever 
we  
wish to call it) is analogous to a computer network, where data and 
information,  
all information, gets written to some sort of media, a long, ways, off. Think 
of  
this as a read-write function of a storage area network. All server farms have 
 
remote sites to preserve data, for disaster recovery. All large companies 
have  
this, and so do governments as well. I am guessing that this is a feature of 
the  
cosmos-or really, just, hoping that it is so.  
  
Mitch  
  
-Original Message-  
From: Roger Clough   
To: - Roger Clough   
Sent: Sat, Sep 14, 2013 8:47 am  
Subject: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology  
  
  
  
Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology  
   
   
Since it is often based on laboratory experiments, parapsychology has a  
scientific basis. But these results   
are smeared by proponents of the cult of materialism, which cannot accept the 
 
view that there is such a  
thing as a mind (a Self). That alone makes materialism a joke. Materialism  
originated with the Enlightenment   
primarily as a reaction against religion, replacing it with reason, as well 
as  
a misinterpretation or reinterpretation   
of Descartes, by claiming that mind can interact with the body, which 
Descartes  
maintained were two different   
substances, by instead claiming that both mind and body are matter. That mind 
 
is matter is nonsensical. Leibniz   
took the other tack, that of Idealism, in which both brain and mind were 
Mind,  
which has the philosophical support   
of Kant and Plato. But the metaphysics of Leibniz are difficult especially in 
 
the face of the bad and   
completely non-Cartesian philosophy materialisam because materialism, while 
it  
doesn't work for mind, DOES work very well for   
Newtonian mechanics. Hence conventional science these days is swolidly  
materialistic and Leibniz's   
platonism is liost to history. I will be posting more on this, but to begin  
with you might want to visit my Leibniz site,
  
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough   
  
  
  
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]   
See my Leibniz site at   
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough  
  
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Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology

2013-09-14 Thread Roger Clough
Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology

 
Since it is often based on laboratory experiments, parapsychology has a 
scientific basis. But these results 
are smeared by proponents of the cult of materialism, which cannot accept the 
view that there is such a
thing as a mind (a Self). That alone makes materialism a joke. Materialism 
originated with the Enlightenment 
primarily as a reaction against religion, replacing it with reason, as well as 
a misinterpretation or reinterpretation 
of Descartes, by claiming that mind can interact with the body, which Descartes 
maintained were two different 
substances, by instead claiming that both mind and body are matter. That mind 
is matter is nonsensical. Leibniz 
took the other tack, that of Idealism, in which both brain and mind were Mind, 
which has the philosophical support 
of Kant and Plato. But the metaphysics of Leibniz are difficult especially in 
the face of the bad and 
completely non-Cartesian philosophy materialisam because materialism, while it 
doesn't work for mind, DOES work very well for 
Newtonian mechanics. Hence conventional science these days is swolidly 
materialistic and Leibniz's 
platonism is liost to history. I will be posting more on this, but to begin 
with you might want to visit my Leibniz site,  

http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough 



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See my Leibniz site at 
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough

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Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology

2013-09-14 Thread spudboy100

One idea I have been kicking around, is viewing through physics, that yes mind 
is bran, brain is mind, but not totally. More, precisely, the notion that the 
data, the pattern identity, the mind, the soul, personality, memory (whatever 
we wish to call it) is analogous to a computer network, where data and 
information, all information, gets written to some sort of media, a long, ways, 
off. Think of this as a read-write function of a storage area network. All 
server farms have remote sites to preserve data, for disaster recovery. All 
large companies have this, and so do governments as well. I am guessing that 
this is a feature of the cosmos-or really, just, hoping that it is so.

Mitch

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Subject: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology



Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology
 
 
Since it is often based on laboratory experiments, parapsychology has a 
scientific basis. But these results 
are smeared by proponents of the cult of materialism, which cannot accept the 
view that there is such a
thing as a mind (a Self). That alone makes materialism a joke. Materialism 
originated with the Enlightenment 
primarily as a reaction against religion, replacing it with reason, as well as 
a misinterpretation or reinterpretation 
of Descartes, by claiming that mind can interact with the body, which Descartes 
maintained were two different 
substances, by instead claiming that both mind and body are matter. That mind 
is matter is nonsensical. Leibniz 
took the other tack, that of Idealism, in which both brain and mind were Mind, 
which has the philosophical support 
of Kant and Plato. But the metaphysics of Leibniz are difficult especially in 
the face of the bad and 
completely non-Cartesian philosophy materialisam because materialism, while it 
doesn't work for mind, DOES work very well for 
Newtonian mechanics. Hence conventional science these days is swolidly 
materialistic and Leibniz's 
platonism is liost to history. I will be posting more on this, but to begin 
with you might want to visit my Leibniz site,  

http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough 



Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] 
See my Leibniz site at 
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough

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Re: Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology

2013-09-14 Thread Roger Clough
Hi spudboy100 

Sure. 
  
 
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at
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One idea I have been kicking around, is viewing through physics, that yes mind 
is bran, brain is mind, but not totally. More, precisely, the notion that the 
data, the pattern identity, the mind, the soul, personality, memory (whatever 
we wish to call it) is analogous to a computer network, where data and 
information, all information, gets written to some sort of media, a long, 
ways, off. Think of this as a read-write function of a storage area network. 
All server farms have remote sites to preserve data, for disaster recovery. 
All large companies have this, and so do governments as well. I am guessing 
that this is a feature of the cosmos-or really, just, hoping that it is so. 
 
Mitch 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Roger Clough  
To: - Roger Clough  
Sent: Sat, Sep 14, 2013 8:47 am 
Subject: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology 
 
 
 
Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology 
  
  
Since it is often based on laboratory experiments, parapsychology has a 
scientific basis. But these results  
are smeared by proponents of the cult of materialism, which cannot accept the 
view that there is such a 
thing as a mind (a Self). That alone makes materialism a joke. Materialism 
originated with the Enlightenment  
primarily as a reaction against religion, replacing it with reason, as well as 
a misinterpretation or reinterpretation  
of Descartes, by claiming that mind can interact with the body, which 
Descartes maintained were two different  
substances, by instead claiming that both mind and body are matter. That mind 
is matter is nonsensical. Leibniz  
took the other tack, that of Idealism, in which both brain and mind were Mind, 
which has the philosophical support  
of Kant and Plato. But the metaphysics of Leibniz are difficult especially in 
the face of the bad and  
completely non-Cartesian philosophy materialisam because materialism, while it 
doesn't work for mind, DOES work very well for  
Newtonian mechanics. Hence conventional science these days is swolidly 
materialistic and Leibniz's  
platonism is liost to history. I will be posting more on this, but to begin 
with you might want to visit my Leibniz site,   
 
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough  
 
 
 
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]  
See my Leibniz site at  
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough 
 
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Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology

2013-09-14 Thread spudboy100

Well, its just an idea that fascinates me. Reading Gerhard t'Hooft in the 
1990's sort of set it all in motion. Also Raphael Bousso, in their analysis oh 
the universe as hologram, etc. Are we the chuck of matter, or the reflection in 
the mirror? That kind of thing.


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Hi spudboy100 

Sure. 
  
 
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough


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One idea I have been kicking around, is viewing through physics, that yes mind 
is bran, brain is mind, but not totally. More, precisely, the notion that the 
data, the pattern identity, the mind, the soul, personality, memory (whatever 
we 
wish to call it) is analogous to a computer network, where data and 
information, 
all information, gets written to some sort of media, a long, ways, off. Think 
of 
this as a read-write function of a storage area network. All server farms have 
remote sites to preserve data, for disaster recovery. All large companies 
have 
this, and so do governments as well. I am guessing that this is a feature of 
the 
cosmos-or really, just, hoping that it is so. 
 
Mitch 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Roger Clough  
To: - Roger Clough  
Sent: Sat, Sep 14, 2013 8:47 am 
Subject: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology 
 
 
 
Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology 
  
  
Since it is often based on laboratory experiments, parapsychology has a 
scientific basis. But these results  
are smeared by proponents of the cult of materialism, which cannot accept the 
view that there is such a 
thing as a mind (a Self). That alone makes materialism a joke. Materialism 
originated with the Enlightenment  
primarily as a reaction against religion, replacing it with reason, as well as 
a misinterpretation or reinterpretation  
of Descartes, by claiming that mind can interact with the body, which 
Descartes 
maintained were two different  
substances, by instead claiming that both mind and body are matter. That mind 
is matter is nonsensical. Leibniz  
took the other tack, that of Idealism, in which both brain and mind were Mind, 
which has the philosophical support  
of Kant and Plato. But the metaphysics of Leibniz are difficult especially in 
the face of the bad and  
completely non-Cartesian philosophy materialisam because materialism, while it 
doesn't work for mind, DOES work very well for  
Newtonian mechanics. Hence conventional science these days is swolidly 
materialistic and Leibniz's  
platonism is liost to history. I will be posting more on this, but to begin 
with you might want to visit my Leibniz site,   
 
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough  
 
 
 
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]  
See my Leibniz site at  
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough 
 
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