Re: Re: [Mind and Brain] A definition of existence (being twofold)

2013-11-08 Thread Richard Ruquist
Roger,

Yes, but both Cass and I would agree that in these metaphysical matters,
Theosophy must have for the time being the final say.
As modified by scientific
and mathematical
enchroachment
like comp.

In Theosophy mass is a property of Matter. Matter has existence at the
Physical level,
mainly because it is massive.Force as exhibited by photons, gravitons and
gluons
are in some sense more mental, along with concepts like mass.
Eingenfunctions and comp are likewise mental
being merely computational artifacts..

Like mass, strings & branes are mental concepts
that are useful in predicting the properties and processes of matter,
consistent with a 1p perspective, along with Relativity, Quantum Mechanics
and the Standard Model.

Theosophy for the uninitiated is a Many World theory of the universe.
The differing worlds are parallel and overlapping,
but all worlds above the Physical level
are heirarchical and conceptual.

Some of you might be interested to know that in this theory,
Consciousness emanates from the Causal level,
above the  Mental, Astral and Physical levels,
but just below the Buddhic level.

In Buddhism and Theosophy, it is the root particle at the Causal level,
from which consciousness emanates, that gets reincarnated after removal of
memories.
Just what properties  the root retains of your individual self is an open
question.
Perhaps comp can tell.
Richard (;<)


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On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Roger Clough  wrote:

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Re: Re: [Mind and Brain] A definition of existence (being twofold)

2013-11-08 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Cass Silva  

I've just posted a note which argues that all physical
entities or variables such as mass are theoretical
and therefor mental. You might disagree.

  
 
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough


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Receiver:  MindBrain  
Time: 2013-11-07, 18:49:59 
Subject: Re: [Mind and Brain] A definition of existence (being twofold) 




>Does Gravity have mass? 
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