Re: Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology

2013-09-15 Thread Roger Clough
Hi spudboy100  

Being (mind, life,consciousness, first person singular) 
isn't part of the spacetime universe.
  
 
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
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>Well, its just an idea that fascinates me. Reading Gerhard t'Hooft in the 
>1990's sort of set it all in motion. Also Raphael Bousso, in their analysis oh 
>the universe as hologram, etc. Are we the chuck of matter, or the reflection 
>in the mirror? That kind of thing. 
> 
> 
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>From: Roger Clough  
>To: spudboy100 ; everything-list  
>Sent: Sat, Sep 14, 2013 12:09 pm 
>Subject: Re: Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology 
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>Hi spudboy100  
> 
>Sure.  
>   
>  
>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] 
>See my Leibniz site at 
>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough 
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>Subject: Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology  
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>>One idea I have been kicking around, is viewing through physics, that yes 
>>mind  
>is bran, brain is mind, but not totally. More, precisely, the notion that the  
>data, the pattern identity, the mind, the soul, personality, memory (whatever 
>we  
>wish to call it) is analogous to a computer network, where data and 
>information,  
>all information, gets written to some sort of media, a long, ways, off. Think 
>of  
>this as a read-write function of a storage area network. All server farms have 
> 
>remote sites to preserve data, for "disaster recovery." All large companies 
>have  
>this, and so do governments as well. I am guessing that this is a feature of 
>the  
>cosmos-or really, just, hoping that it is so.  
>>  
>>Mitch  
>>  
>>-Original Message-  
>>From: Roger Clough   
>>To: - Roger Clough   
>>Sent: Sat, Sep 14, 2013 8:47 am  
>>Subject: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology  
>>   
>>   
>>Since it is often based on laboratory experiments, parapsychology has a  
>scientific basis. But these results   
>>are smeared by proponents of the cult of materialism, which cannot accept the 
>> 
>view that there is such a  
>>thing as a mind (a Self). That alone makes materialism a joke. Materialism  
>originated with the Enlightenment   
>>primarily as a reaction against religion, replacing it with reason, as well 
>>as  
>a misinterpretation or reinterpretation   
>>of Descartes, by claiming that mind can interact with the body, which 
>>Descartes  
>maintained were two different   
>>substances, by instead claiming that both mind and body are matter. That mind 
>> 
>is matter is nonsensical. Leibniz   
>>took the other tack, that of Idealism, in which both brain and mind were 
>>Mind,  
>which has the philosophical support   
>>of Kant and Plato. But the metaphysics of Leibniz are difficult especially in 
>> 
>the face of the bad and   
>>completely non-Cartesian philosophy materialisam because materialism, while 
>>it  
>doesn't work for mind, DOES work very well for   
>>Newtonian mechanics. Hence conventional science these days is swolidly  
>materialistic and Leibniz's   
>>platonism is liost to history. I will be posting more on this, but to begin  
>with you might want to visit my Leibniz site,
>>  
>>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough   
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]   
>>See my Leibniz site at   
>>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough  
>>  
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Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology

2013-09-14 Thread spudboy100

Well, its just an idea that fascinates me. Reading Gerhard t'Hooft in the 
1990's sort of set it all in motion. Also Raphael Bousso, in their analysis oh 
the universe as hologram, etc. Are we the chuck of matter, or the reflection in 
the mirror? That kind of thing.


-Original Message-
From: Roger Clough 
To: spudboy100 ; everything-list 

Sent: Sat, Sep 14, 2013 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology


Hi spudboy100 

Sure. 
  
 
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough


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>One idea I have been kicking around, is viewing through physics, that yes mind 
is bran, brain is mind, but not totally. More, precisely, the notion that the 
data, the pattern identity, the mind, the soul, personality, memory (whatever 
we 
wish to call it) is analogous to a computer network, where data and 
information, 
all information, gets written to some sort of media, a long, ways, off. Think 
of 
this as a read-write function of a storage area network. All server farms have 
remote sites to preserve data, for "disaster recovery." All large companies 
have 
this, and so do governments as well. I am guessing that this is a feature of 
the 
cosmos-or really, just, hoping that it is so. 
> 
>Mitch 
> 
>-Original Message- 
>From: Roger Clough  
>To: - Roger Clough  
>Sent: Sat, Sep 14, 2013 8:47 am 
>Subject: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology 
> 
> 
> 
>Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology 
>  
>  
>Since it is often based on laboratory experiments, parapsychology has a 
scientific basis. But these results  
>are smeared by proponents of the cult of materialism, which cannot accept the 
view that there is such a 
>thing as a mind (a Self). That alone makes materialism a joke. Materialism 
originated with the Enlightenment  
>primarily as a reaction against religion, replacing it with reason, as well as 
a misinterpretation or reinterpretation  
>of Descartes, by claiming that mind can interact with the body, which 
>Descartes 
maintained were two different  
>substances, by instead claiming that both mind and body are matter. That mind 
is matter is nonsensical. Leibniz  
>took the other tack, that of Idealism, in which both brain and mind were Mind, 
which has the philosophical support  
>of Kant and Plato. But the metaphysics of Leibniz are difficult especially in 
the face of the bad and  
>completely non-Cartesian philosophy materialisam because materialism, while it 
doesn't work for mind, DOES work very well for  
>Newtonian mechanics. Hence conventional science these days is swolidly 
materialistic and Leibniz's  
>platonism is liost to history. I will be posting more on this, but to begin 
with you might want to visit my Leibniz site,   
> 
>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough  
> 
> 
> 
>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]  
>See my Leibniz site at  
>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough 
> 
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Re: Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology

2013-09-14 Thread Roger Clough
Hi spudboy100 

Sure. 
  
 
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at
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>One idea I have been kicking around, is viewing through physics, that yes mind 
>is bran, brain is mind, but not totally. More, precisely, the notion that the 
>data, the pattern identity, the mind, the soul, personality, memory (whatever 
>we wish to call it) is analogous to a computer network, where data and 
>information, all information, gets written to some sort of media, a long, 
>ways, off. Think of this as a read-write function of a storage area network. 
>All server farms have remote sites to preserve data, for "disaster recovery." 
>All large companies have this, and so do governments as well. I am guessing 
>that this is a feature of the cosmos-or really, just, hoping that it is so. 
> 
>Mitch 
> 
>-Original Message- 
>From: Roger Clough  
>To: - Roger Clough  
>Sent: Sat, Sep 14, 2013 8:47 am 
>Subject: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology 
> 
> 
> 
>Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology 
>  
>  
>Since it is often based on laboratory experiments, parapsychology has a 
>scientific basis. But these results  
>are smeared by proponents of the cult of materialism, which cannot accept the 
>view that there is such a 
>thing as a mind (a Self). That alone makes materialism a joke. Materialism 
>originated with the Enlightenment  
>primarily as a reaction against religion, replacing it with reason, as well as 
>a misinterpretation or reinterpretation  
>of Descartes, by claiming that mind can interact with the body, which 
>Descartes maintained were two different  
>substances, by instead claiming that both mind and body are matter. That mind 
>is matter is nonsensical. Leibniz  
>took the other tack, that of Idealism, in which both brain and mind were Mind, 
>which has the philosophical support  
>of Kant and Plato. But the metaphysics of Leibniz are difficult especially in 
>the face of the bad and  
>completely non-Cartesian philosophy materialisam because materialism, while it 
>doesn't work for mind, DOES work very well for  
>Newtonian mechanics. Hence conventional science these days is swolidly 
>materialistic and Leibniz's  
>platonism is liost to history. I will be posting more on this, but to begin 
>with you might want to visit my Leibniz site,   
> 
>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough  
> 
> 
> 
>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]  
>See my Leibniz site at  
>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough 
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Re: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology

2013-09-14 Thread spudboy100

One idea I have been kicking around, is viewing through physics, that yes mind 
is bran, brain is mind, but not totally. More, precisely, the notion that the 
data, the pattern identity, the mind, the soul, personality, memory (whatever 
we wish to call it) is analogous to a computer network, where data and 
information, all information, gets written to some sort of media, a long, ways, 
off. Think of this as a read-write function of a storage area network. All 
server farms have remote sites to preserve data, for "disaster recovery." All 
large companies have this, and so do governments as well. I am guessing that 
this is a feature of the cosmos-or really, just, hoping that it is so.

Mitch

-Original Message-
From: Roger Clough 
To: - Roger Clough 
Sent: Sat, Sep 14, 2013 8:47 am
Subject: Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology



Leibniz, Idealism and Parapsychology
 
 
Since it is often based on laboratory experiments, parapsychology has a 
scientific basis. But these results 
are smeared by proponents of the cult of materialism, which cannot accept the 
view that there is such a
thing as a mind (a Self). That alone makes materialism a joke. Materialism 
originated with the Enlightenment 
primarily as a reaction against religion, replacing it with reason, as well as 
a misinterpretation or reinterpretation 
of Descartes, by claiming that mind can interact with the body, which Descartes 
maintained were two different 
substances, by instead claiming that both mind and body are matter. That mind 
is matter is nonsensical. Leibniz 
took the other tack, that of Idealism, in which both brain and mind were Mind, 
which has the philosophical support 
of Kant and Plato. But the metaphysics of Leibniz are difficult especially in 
the face of the bad and 
completely non-Cartesian philosophy materialisam because materialism, while it 
doesn't work for mind, DOES work very well for 
Newtonian mechanics. Hence conventional science these days is swolidly 
materialistic and Leibniz's 
platonism is liost to history. I will be posting more on this, but to begin 
with you might want to visit my Leibniz site,  

http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough 



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See my Leibniz site at 
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough

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