Re: Turing Machines Have no Real Time Clock (Was The Game of Life)

[Jacques Mallah]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Turing Machines have no real time clock ...
 If we assume the comp hypothesis
 (purely based on Turing machines) and the
 anthropic principle, then the flow of
 consciousness can only be
 constrained by the logical nature of the
links
 pernitting transitions from one observer
 moment to the next. Time therefore is an
 illusion derived from such a logical flow.

 Please!!! Of course Turing Machines have clocks
 [...] But they don't have REAL TIME 
 CLOCKS, Jacques You know the kind that tells
 computers the time of day and the date...

OK, so you admit time is real but unknown.  I
guess your illusion claim was due to schitzophrenia
on your part.

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Re: Turing Machines Have no Real Time Clock (Was The Game of Life)

[GSLevy]

In a message dated 05/21/2000 3:21:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Turing Machines have no real time clock and no
interrupt. If we assume the comp hypothesis
(purely based on Turing machines) and the
  anthropic
principle, then the flow of consciousness can only
be constrained by the logical nature of the links
pernitting transitions from one observer moment
to the next. Time therefore is an illusion derived
from such a logical flow.
  
  I just noticed this claim that TMs are not
  clocked, and as far as I could tell it is self
  evidently false, so I don't see how someone could make
  it.  The very definition of a TM involves actions of
  the head at each clock step.

Please!!! Of course Turing Machines have clocks They perform their 
operations sequentially and need a clock signal to move from one step to 
the next. The duration between the clock pulses can vary and can be entirely 
arbitrary, one picosecond or ten milleniums. But they don't have REAL TIME 
CLOCKS, Jacques You know the kind that tells computers the time of day 
and the date... And of course they also don't have interrupts!  

George

Re: Turing Machines Have no Real Time Clock (Was The Game of Life)

[GSLevy]

In a message dated 01/13/2000 5:58:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Who say's the world is quantized?

If the world was not quantized the comp hypothesis would not hold. In fact, 
It would be impossible for physical constants to have any definite value, 
since there would not be any reference to anchor them with. 

George Levy