Re: [Evolution] Folder-specific Threaded option
Err ... but state isn't saved. I have to do it by hand. Sorry. Xav ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] Tabbing through fields in the composer
When I compose a new e-mail, after typing in the recipient I can't just tab down through the fields to get to subject. I can get to the subject by doing shifttab...but then shifttab doesn't take me from the subject field to the message body. I end up having to use my mouse and click in the message body. If possible, it'd be nice to be able to just tab forward through the fields (then on to the message body), and shifttab to tab backward. This is how most applications work and I'd imagine it's what most people are used to. BTW, I am using evo 0.10 installed from rpm. Hope this helps. Thanks, Tim ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Signature Files and HTML by default
fejj, Would it not be a good idea to have Evolution's mail account druid search the user's home directory for a .signature file and then if found, show it in an editable dialog box with their current signature, and if not found the dialog box is empty. If the dialog box is empty, then they can create a signature, or leave it blank. When saved it creates both a ~/evolution/.signature_account1.txt and ~/evolution/.signature_account1.html. For each new account, it creates two new signature files. Delete an account and those signature files are removed. Garrett Mickelson On 16 May 2001 15:31:23 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On 16 May 2001 10:12:31 +0200, Juan Alonso Hernández wrote: I've reported this problem earlier and it seems to have been fixed partially: This happens when you have checked HTML by default, and you have previously selected a .txt file for signature: behavior it had before: you tried to compose a new message and evo warns he can't find file you-had-selected.html. The new window message opens without any signature. behavior it has now: you try to compose a new message and evo warns he can't find file you-had-selected.html but when the new message window opens it has the signature. I think evo should try to open the file you just specified, or maybe evo should save a copy of the signature always in html and parse it to .txt when necessary. Except that Evolution doesn't create the signature files, you do. There is a fix for this and I presume that it's currently using it if it's attaching the signature... Jeff ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Garrett Mickelson, RHCE Linux Support Specialist 415.358.2600www.penguincomputing.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] Palm Question
Title: Palm Question Hi, I just joined this mailing list, so if this has been discussed already, I appologize. Two questions. I heard that there were to be Palm conduits for Evolution, if that's true, how do I access them? Also, is there a list of key bindings for navigating the mail folders without using a mouse? Thanks
Re: [Evolution] Cannot create composer window / oafd.oafinfo
If I run as root clicking on compose takes down std-moniker every time.
Oh! Your problem is that you have very very old out-of-date bonobo cruft
installed.
rm ${prefix}/share/oaf/*.oafinfo
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Re: [Evolution] Signature Files and HTML by default
On 17 May 2001 15:55:51 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I just don't think evolution should manage anyones signatures. If it ends up becoming a must-have feature, then I'd wager it'd be a super low priority item. Hear, hear! There are enough sig-manglers in the world. Evo does okay by letting you pick what your sig file should be and then getting on with business. (Back in the day, it used to grab one iteration of my randomized sig and stick with that one through the whole session... but that was way back when.) While I'm talking about the steady improvements in Evo, I'm still running CVS.2001.04.19.08.00 here. It usually only dies when I make the mistake of mucking about with Exec-Summary or when some clever nut sends a this message crashes Evo message and I don't switch to View Source appropriately. Should I take the (arguably healthy and sane) stance of if it ain't broken, don't update it or are the new snaps finally worth it? I've read an awful lot of ack, I upgraded and now X happens which is why I haven't touched a snapshot in almost a month. I'm loathe to ruin a perfectly good mailer, but I'm also not really contributing to the cause by sticking with an ancient version... As for HTML-ized sigs... well, I'm sure someone will come up with a mangler for those, too. Heck, now that I think about it I betcha I could convince gensig to insert the randomized part into an HTML-ized sig. Which isn't the same as asserting that HTML-ized sigs aren't pure evil, of course. I'm not going to start THAT debate, since that would be like kicking off yet another KDE/GNOME, Win/Lin/Mac, E/WM/TWM (yes I'm being absurd) or other kind of silly ongoing battle. -- --- Karel P Kerezman - IS Admin, Entercom Portland LLC - http://zero.kgon.com --- Two degrees off square. - From the Canonical Fulldeckisms List: http://www.herbison.com/canon --- ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 0.10 Tasmanian Devil is out
me too Xav Le 2001.05.16 17:43:44 +0200, Ross Burton a écrit : On 16 May 2001 10:56:10 -0400, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: Su 14 May 2001 18:23:05 -0400, Fernando Pereira ha scritto: I asked this before, but maybe it fell through the cracks. Is there anything I can do to see again the contacts I had entered a few snapshots ago? At some point, it was suggested by someone at Ximian that this was caused by snapshots incorrectly linked with an old version of db. The new package should be linked with the newer db library, so the contacts should be visible again... I disagree with this - or we have different meanings to newer. A working contacts database: $ file addressbook.db addressbook.db: Berkeley DB 1.85 Hash/Little Endian (Version 2, Bucket Size 4096, Bucket Shift 12, Directory Size 256, Segment Size 256, Segment Shift 8, Overflow Point 1, Last Freed 2, Max Bucket 1, High Mask 0x3, Low Mask 0x1, Fill Factor 65536, Number of Keys 17) Version 1.85. A non-working contacts database: $ file addressbook.db addressbook.db: Berkeley DB 2.X Hash/Little Endian (Version 5, Logical sequence number: file - 0, offset - 0, Bucket Size 4096, Overflow Point 3, Last Freed 5, Max Bucket 5, High Mask 0x7, Low Mask 0x3, Fill Factor 65536, Number of Keys 3) Version 2. From this evidence Evo 0.10 is using DB 1.85, which cannot read 2.x version files. Does anyone know how to convert 2.x version files into 1.85? Regards, Ross -- Ross Burton Software Engineer OneEighty Software Ltd Tel: +44 20 8263 2332 The Lansdowne Building Fax: +44 20 8263 6314 2 Lansdowne Road[EMAIL PROTECTED] Croydon, Surrey CR9 2ER, UK http://www.180sw.com./ Under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers (RIP) Act 2000 together with any and all Regulations in force pursuant to the Act OneEighty Software Ltd reserves the right to monitor any or all incoming or outgoing communications as provided for under the Act ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] SMTP AUTH
OK, I'll try the next snapshot that I find and let you know if it is working. Until then I'll just keep hitting 'Send Later' and restarting Evolution :) Since we're talking about it, hitting Send Later, after getting the error, crashes or locks up the app about 50% of the time. Thanks, Mark On 17 May 2001 16:49:11 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: Nah, the logs aren't really needed - what seems to be happening is that you are getting disconnected. It seems that danw is at least partially right afterall. Even though the SMTP transport module allows to be used over and over again without being disconnected, the code that uses it only sends 1 message at a time and then destroys the smtp object (or so that code thinks) yet it is not actually destroyed because somehow some other section of code has a reference to that object as well, so when we unref the object in the mail_send_message function, it isn't actually destroyed. I'm wondering if this is a 0.10 bug and that it might be fixed in the latest CVS because I can't find any reason for it to be ref'd by any other section of code. Jeff On 17 May 2001 16:11:22 -0400, Mark Logan wrote: The number of messages seems to be irrelevant. From the time I send the first message, I have about 10 minutes (just guessing, but pretty close) until I get the error. I can send as many as I want in that time period, but eventually it dies. I will try and get access to the logs from the server to see if that shines any light on the situation. Is there anything else that you want me to try? Mark On 17 May 2001 16:04:13 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: Uh. no. If I recall correctly, it's not disconnecting for a reason (ie, so we don't have to reconnect for each damn message we wanna send...this is there by design). Besides, how is not reconnecting causing a problem here? Obviously the SMTP module isn't confused about it's state... and it sent a total of four other messages without a problem. I fail to see how not disconnecting is the problem? Jeff On 16 May 2001 02:13:40 +0500, Dan Winship wrote: The problem is that it's leaving the SMTP connection open all the time, instead of disconnecting after sending a message. I'm adding that to bugzilla. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Mark Logan Project Manager BioInformatics Visible Genetics Inc. Phone: (416)813-3240 x4133 Cell : (416)274-1559 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Mark Logan Project Manager BioInformatics Visible Genetics Inc. Phone: (416)813-3240 x4133 Cell : (416)274-1559 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] Suggestion...
I compiled evolution with LDAP support, and that works nice. But when I compose a mail and want a email from my address book it's the local addressbook only. I don't know if there is any intuitive way to put ldap to that part of the gui, so instead I like to have a 'Add to contacts' entry in the rightclick entry for ldap addresscards. That way I only have to lookup the people once, add them to my local addressbook and then I have have name completion in my composer window. //Snaggen -- Mattias Eriksson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tvistevägen 26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 907 36 UMEA Tel:090-198800 SWEDEN 070-5636769 'I don't fight for a cause Hemsida: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen I fight for the fight' PGP: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen/snaggen.asc ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Tabbing through fields in the composer
On 17 May 2001 08:39:09 -0400, Tim Boring wrote: When I compose a new e-mail, after typing in the recipient I can't just tab down through the fields to get to subject. I can get to the subject by doing shifttab...but then shifttab doesn't take me from the subject field to the message body. I end up having to use my mouse and click in the message body. If possible, it'd be nice to be able to just tab forward through the fields (then on to the message body), and shifttab to tab backward. This is how most applications work and I'd imagine it's what most people are used to. As far as I am aware, this is a Bonobo feature related to shifting the focus correctly between different processes (the headers are Evolution, the message body is GTKHTML). I think this has been fixed in the Bonobo CVS tree. But then again, I'm just a user not a developer, so what do I know? :-) Ross -- Ross Burton Software Engineer OneEighty Software Ltd Tel: +44 20 8263 2332 The Lansdowne Building Fax: +44 20 8263 6314 2 Lansdowne Road[EMAIL PROTECTED] Croydon, Surrey CR9 2ER, UK http://www.180sw.com./ Under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers (RIP) Act 2000 together with any and all Regulations in force pursuant to the Act OneEighty Software Ltd reserves the right to monitor any or all incoming or outgoing communications as provided for under the Act ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Folder-specific Threaded option
Well, dont use the feature then. Use a vfolder, if thats what you want. On 17 May 2001 13:20:32 +0200, Jens Lautenbacher wrote: [First of all, sorry for the long mail] Not Zed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 16 May 2001 18:50:43 +0200, Jens Lautenbacher wrote: Also the UI for these Options is very strange, for Hide Read messages you have the menu entry, but there is no check mark when it's selected, to unselect you have to select Show all... and this state is folder local... UI from hell :-( No the ui is correct. Hide read messages is not a state, its an action. i.e. it just hides CURRENTLY read messages. It doesn't keep hiding newly read messages. Oh come on, that's even worse. I have a folder with 1000 msg. I hide 990 of them, then I read 5 of the remaining 10. Now on subsequent entering of the folder I have not a single feedback from UI that there are older read messages that are hidden. This _is_ UI from hell. The problem is that you seem to store the attribute of being hidden on a per mail basis. But what a lot of people would like to see is a folder attribute that means: Don't show me read mails in this folder. All messages i read after entering such a folder will be marked read, and, after I come back, won't be shown. The accumulative way you implemented seems to be a way to just move uninteresting older mails out of sight. But when I have a big folder, with a mix of a lot of read messages, some unread (aka new) messages and a real big bunch of hidden messages, I run into problems when I want to see such a hidden msq. I do a Show all, poff, all of them are there. But now how can I hide them again? Hide read will hide all of the read ones, which is not what I wanted. What makes more sense to me is a mix of attributes that belong to certain messages (like flag as important, flag as unimportant, or even levels of importance) and attributes that belong to the view of a folder (like do always show important messages, regardless of if they are read or not, do not show unimportant messages, and of course the most important do not show read messages or even better do not show read messages that have no descendants [in the sense of how a threading option would sort them] that are unread) What you call hiding is in fact a flagging as somehow unimportant plus the fact that the folder does't show those. But what you call show all is unfortunately a remove the unimportant flag. Instead it should be show all, even if they are flagged as unimportant. That way, on subsequent entries, the flag persists and I will (to come back to my example above) see again just 10 messages, with 5 of them marked as read (of course only if I have _not_ set the hypothetical folder option of hiding read mails). jtl ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Signature Files and HTML by default
I just don't think evolution should manage anyones signatures. If it ends up becoming a must-have feature, then I'd wager it'd be a super low priority item. Jeff On 17 May 2001 12:47:14 -0700, Garrett Mickelson wrote: Fair enough. What are your thoughts on incorporating a signature editor into the druid though? Does that seem like a valid idea, be it a low priority one? Garrett On 17 May 2001 15:45:09 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't like this way at all. I think that the code converts the signature to HTML if it needs to be in HTML format, and if it doesn't then it should be easy to do. Jeff On 17 May 2001 07:11:44 -0700, Garrett Mickelson wrote: fejj, Would it not be a good idea to have Evolution's mail account druid search the user's home directory for a .signature file and then if found, show it in an editable dialog box with their current signature, and if not found the dialog box is empty. If the dialog box is empty, then they can create a signature, or leave it blank. When saved it creates both a ~/evolution/.signature_account1.txt and ~/evolution/.signature_account1.html. For each new account, it creates two new signature files. Delete an account and those signature files are removed. Garrett Mickelson On 16 May 2001 15:31:23 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On 16 May 2001 10:12:31 +0200, Juan Alonso Hernández wrote: I've reported this problem earlier and it seems to have been fixed partially: This happens when you have checked HTML by default, and you have previously selected a .txt file for signature: behavior it had before: you tried to compose a new message and evo warns he can't find file you-had-selected.html. The new window message opens without any signature. behavior it has now: you try to compose a new message and evo warns he can't find file you-had-selected.html but when the new message window opens it has the signature. I think evo should try to open the file you just specified, or maybe evo should save a copy of the signature always in html and parse it to .txt when necessary. Except that Evolution doesn't create the signature files, you do. There is a fix for this and I presume that it's currently using it if it's attaching the signature... Jeff ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Garrett Mickelson, RHCE Linux Support Specialist 415.358.2600www.penguincomputing.com -- Garrett Mickelson, RHCE Linux Support Specialist 415.358.2600www.penguincomputing.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Strange evolution crash
This problem seems to be NFS related, when I moved my evolution directory to a local partition I had no problem. And when I recompiled evolution with dot-locking=yes file-locking=no things works again. I guess the crash might not be your fault, but it would be nive to have a nice error message instead of a OOppps this view has died unexpectedly And I'd like to have src-debs so I can recompile the releases easily. //Snaggen Den 15 May 2001 11:41:41 +0200 skrev Mattias Eriksson: I suddenly got a problem from nowhere, I had a working evolution this friday and on monday it crached. I dont know why, I did some non related updates (I think) but that's it. I then upgraded to 0.10 stable and made sure I just use ximian versions of all libs, and it still craches. So I provide you with some debug output, hope you can find out whats wrong. I use IMAP and I mount $HOME over NFS. I ran CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1 gdb /usr/bin/evolution-mail and then started evolution. cut Before there were alot of sending recived that seems OK. received: A00034 OK STATUS completed sending : A00035 STATUS INBOX (UNSEEN) received: * STATUS INBOX (UNSEEN 0) received: A00035 OK STATUS completed Message threading 607 messages took 0.825 seconds redisplaying Message threading 607 messages took 0.005 seconds Bonobo-WARNING **: Serious exception getting node '/menu/Actions/Component/MessageReplySender' '$ogiltig sökväg till XML-användargränssnittselement' Bonobo-CRITICAL **: file bonobo-ui-component.c: line 1119 (impl_set_prop): assertion `node != NULL' failed. sending : A00036 LIST mail/current/inbox received: * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) / mail/current/inbox received: A00036 OK LIST completed (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... [New Thread 4101 (LWP 13651)] sending : A00037 SELECT mail/current/inbox camel-local-provider-ERROR **: file camel-mbox-folder.c: line 146 (mbox_lock): assertion failed: (mf-lockfd == -1) aborting... Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread 1026 (LWP 13637)] 0x408eeae1 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x408eeae1 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x402cbcde in pthread_kill () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #2 0x402cc1ad in raise () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x408eff41 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6 #4 0x40710a8e in g_logv () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #5 0x40710b41 in g_log () from /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 #6 0x40b506c0 in camel_mbox_folder_new () from /usr/lib/evolution/camel-providers/0.10/libcamellocal.so #7 0x40b4d438 in camel_local_folder_lock () from /usr/lib/evolution/camel-providers/0.10/libcamellocal.so #8 0x40b4d530 in camel_local_folder_unlock () from /usr/lib/evolution/camel-providers/0.10/libcamellocal.so #9 0x40041379 in camel_folder_sync () from /usr/lib/libcamel.so.0 #10 0x8084332 in mail_create_folder () #11 0x808126d in mail_msg_wait () #12 0x40069f8a in e_thread_set_msg_received () from /usr/lib/libcamel.so.0 #13 0x4006a0e3 in e_thread_set_msg_received () from /usr/lib/libcamel.so.0 #14 0x402c8fc5 in pthread_start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #15 0x402c900d in pthread_start_thread_event () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 (gdb) //Snaggen -- Mattias Eriksson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tvistevägen 26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 907 36 UMEA Tel:090-198800 SWEDEN 070-5636769 'I don't fight for a cause Hemsida: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen I fight for the fight' PGP: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen/snaggen.asc ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Mattias Eriksson E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tvistevägen 26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 907 36 UMEA Tel:090-198800 SWEDEN 070-5636769 'I don't fight for a cause Hemsida: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen I fight for the fight' PGP: http://www.acc.umu.se/~snaggen/snaggen.asc ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] future requests that would improve evolution
On 17 May 2001 21:46:55 -0700, Miles Lane wrote: On 18 May 2001 12:26:56 +0930, Not Zed wrote: On 17 May 2001 21:50:53 +0500, Dan Winship wrote: nah, i would never ask evolution to do something like that, that would be as bad a another mail program we all know :-) doing that i presume would pose a great security risk? No, not at all. Well, unless you routinely receive mp3s from the CIA or something. p.p.s is there a way to remove the warning message on startup, as its really annoying? cheers The official answer is no, although you can find the real answer in the archives, or the source code. It is? I didn't know that. Well, why not have an opt-out button checkbox on it, just like the Gnome Hints do when Gnome is launched the first time. I notice that when I turn of the automatic launching of these hints (I always do), I am told how to go about reenabling them. This seems like a perfectly reasonable way to handle this welcome screen. Of course, if this dialog is made some sort of dynamically updated message from the Ximian/Gnome team, perhaps having it be more permanent makes sense (I think Communicator and Outlook do something like this, but the message is displayed as a message, rather than as a dialog). As long as the text is static, what possible excuse could there be for subjecting users to it repeatedly? Umm, you obviously haven't read it, have you? ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Folder-specific Threaded option
a mixture of imap and vfolders I never, ever use anything in 'local', and yet it is fully expanded every time Evolution opens. By 1.0, the folder tree will definitely remember the state of open/closed nodes between sessions. It may be possible to rearrange things as well. Note that you can also create shortcut bar panes, using small icons (right click to select that), ordered however you want. -- Dan ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Attached is a mail which crashes Evo 0.10
On 17 May 2001 09:32:11 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: This mail crashes Evo (GTKHTML I think) every time I try and view it. Please don't forward mail that crashes evolution to this mailing list. Many (most?) of the people on here use evolution as their primary mail application, and a good portion won't be able to do anything useful with the message. So instead, we'll just suddenly find ourselves having to bring up another mail app to delete this message, since we can't in Evo. Fortunately this one doesn't seem to really cause a crash (in my case at least). We'd had one on here a few months back that _did_ nail pretty much everyone . In the future please send something along the lines of I've got a message that seems to crash evolution; who wants a copy? and then privately mail it to those people, so they get it when they're expecting it. Otherwise, you're probably going to just wind up pissing off a lot of people and maybe triggering a torrent of flames aimed at you. -- David Hoover PGP signature
[Evolution] leaves messages on server
when checking email with evo its leaving messages on server..pop3 not doing it with other apps... anyone else seeing this sorry if old issue. lee -=== ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
