Re: [Evolution] courier IMAP || Evo bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Tom

why? It displays the HTML page correctly if I use POP or if I use IMAP
from the Exchange server or If I use Evo to send an HTML email ...

When Evo loads an HTML email off the Courier IMAP server it appears to
either be ignoring the Content-Type header or not understanding it.


On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:50, Brian wrote:
 Wouldn't this be a gtkHTML bug and not an Evolution one?
 
 On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:30, Tom wrote:
  Has anyone had any problems reading HTML email from a Courier IMAP
  server sent from a PHP script? :) 
  
  I am using PHP to send back an email registration ... if I send the
  email to Exchange server we have here and then read it with Evo  ( still
  IMAP ) it works fine ... if I send the email to my Courier server and
  the check it with Evo  it shows as plain text and the headers read as 
  Content-Type: text/plain
  yet I am setting the header in PHP to Content-Type: text/html
  
  If I log into the server and read the mail there the Content-Type header
  is text/html
  
  If I use POP to check that same email ... it works fine it reads as html
  and the header shows it as html
  
  If I use Evo to send an html email everything works fine.
  
  any ideas??
  
  P.S.  I have also tried sending the email from a Cold Fusion page and I get the 
same behavior.
 
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Re: [Evolution] courier IMAP || Evo bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:30, Tom wrote:
 Has anyone had any problems reading HTML email from a Courier IMAP
 server sent from a PHP script? :) 
...

Perhaps the server has some kind of MIME filtering software installed
that is modifying the message?

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-30 Thread Dan Winship

On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 13:57, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
 If you go back to probably even last week or the week before in the
 archives for this list, you'll find numerous messages complaining about
 1.0.x find my account from this message behavior. In fact, every week
 there are lots of complaints. All of them wanted it the way it is now.
 You're actually the first person that wants it the old way :-)

People don't write email saying Dammit! Why can't you make evolution
work exactly the way it already does?! How the @#$!@ am I supposed to
used this thing when it does precisely what I want it to?! It's
possible that there were thousands of people happy with the old behavior
and just a handful who wanted it the new way.

Can one of those I-don't-like-the-1.0.x-way people out there explain
what was wrong with it for them? The 1.0.x way sounds like it makes a
lot more sense to me... (If someone sends mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], why
do you want the reply to come from [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Unless you
don't ever want to send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED], in which case, why
not just claim that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the email address for that
identity?)

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Re: [Evolution] courier IMAP || Evo bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Tom

I did the server install about 2 weeks ago, so unless it is a default
option I don't think that is it. And as I said, if I send HTML email
from Evo it works fine


On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 15:28, Peter Williams wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:30, Tom wrote:
  Has anyone had any problems reading HTML email from a Courier IMAP
  server sent from a PHP script? :) 
 ...
 
 Perhaps the server has some kind of MIME filtering software installed
 that is modifying the message?
 
 Peter
 
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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-30 Thread Aaron Kemp

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 11:34, Dan Winship wrote:
 Can one of those I-don't-like-the-1.0.x-way people out there explain
 what was wrong with it for them? The 1.0.x way sounds like it makes a
 lot more sense to me... 
snip
The old 1.0.x way doesn't work when replying to lists.  Eg. I have two
accounts (I have a lot more than that, but that's not the point) one is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and one is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I am subscribed to
this list via [EMAIL PROTECTED]  When I clicked reply just now, Evolution
selected my default account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) instead of the one
in the X-Evolution-Source: header ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  This is annoying as
hell because if I don't change the from address, my mail is silently
dropped by the list server since my address isn't subscribed. 
Ironically enough, this happened when I was talking to Jeff about the
fact that the autodetection was broken.

Other than that, I have no complaint with the way 1.0.x works, so if
that bug could be fixed...  Jeff assures me that it works in 1.1.x, I
haven't been brave enough to start using the dev-snaps yet...

switches from field to correct account

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Re: [Evolution] courier IMAP || Evo bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Tom

I sent you off an email  ... did it work?

What Evo branch are you running ( both I would assume )



On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 15:19, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
 If it works on other IMAP servers, I would suspect that this is a bug in
 your IMAP server.
 
 Care to send a copy of this message to me? Since my IMAP server is also
 a Courier imapd, I should experience the same problem? If I don't, then
 I suspect that maybe your Courier IMAP server's configuration might be
 to blame.
 
 Jeff
 
 On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:30, Tom wrote:
  Has anyone had any problems reading HTML email from a Courier IMAP
  server sent from a PHP script? :) 
  
  I am using PHP to send back an email registration ... if I send the
  email to Exchange server we have here and then read it with Evo  ( still
  IMAP ) it works fine ... if I send the email to my Courier server and
  the check it with Evo  it shows as plain text and the headers read as 
  Content-Type: text/plain
  yet I am setting the header in PHP to Content-Type: text/html
  
  If I log into the server and read the mail there the Content-Type header
  is text/html
  
  If I use POP to check that same email ... it works fine it reads as html
  and the header shows it as html
  
  If I use Evo to send an html email everything works fine.
  
  any ideas??
  
  P.S.  I have also tried sending the email from a Cold Fusion page and I get the 
same behavior.
  
  
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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-30 Thread Dan Winship

 Why doesn't Evolution simply use the account in the To: tag when you
 do an action on a received message?  If it can't find it, use the
 default.  Sounds simple.

I didn't appear in the To list of your message. How does Evo know what
account to reply from? The default account will often not be right if
you have a bunch of accounts.

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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-30 Thread Christopher Ness

Dan, I just realized I put my foot in my mouth when I sent that message
and I got a msg from a different mailing list and the To: tag was that
mailing list addy.

I'll try to take it out now.

So I guess it uses the X-Evolution-Source: tag, I didn't notice it
below my mail servers SpamAssasin tags.

Trying to learn the ways of email and clients...

Cheers,
Chris

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 13:56, Dan Winship wrote:
  Why doesn't Evolution simply use the account in the To: tag when you
  do an action on a received message?  If it can't find it, use the
  default.  Sounds simple.
 
 I didn't appear in the To list of your message. How does Evo know what
 account to reply from? The default account will often not be right if
 you have a bunch of accounts.
 
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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-30 Thread Dan Winship

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 13:50, Ryan P Skadberg wrote:
 Ah  now I get this.
 
 So, basically, you have 2 IMAP accounts

He was actually talking about 2 POP accounts, but it should work
basically the same.

 Ok!  Then, the best way for this to work is:
 
 1) Search the Recipient list for an address in your accounts
 (this should fail on a mailing list, so ...)
 2) Use X-Evolution-Source.
 3) Barring Neither working for some reason, use default account.

So you'd think, but that's basically how it was supposed to work in
1.0.x and he's saying it didn't really... I suspect something is messing
up so that it doesn't recognize the X-Evolution-Source header and step 2
fails.

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Re: [Evolution] courier IMAP || Evo bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

I don't seem to have received it?

Jeff

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 15:30, Tom wrote:
 I sent you off an email  ... did it work?
 
 What Evo branch are you running ( both I would assume )
 
 
 
 On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 15:19, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
  If it works on other IMAP servers, I would suspect that this is a bug in
  your IMAP server.
  
  Care to send a copy of this message to me? Since my IMAP server is also
  a Courier imapd, I should experience the same problem? If I don't, then
  I suspect that maybe your Courier IMAP server's configuration might be
  to blame.
  
  Jeff
  
  On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:30, Tom wrote:
   Has anyone had any problems reading HTML email from a Courier IMAP
   server sent from a PHP script? :) 
   
   I am using PHP to send back an email registration ... if I send the
   email to Exchange server we have here and then read it with Evo  ( still
   IMAP ) it works fine ... if I send the email to my Courier server and
   the check it with Evo  it shows as plain text and the headers read as 
   Content-Type: text/plain
   yet I am setting the header in PHP to Content-Type: text/html
   
   If I log into the server and read the mail there the Content-Type header
   is text/html
   
   If I use POP to check that same email ... it works fine it reads as html
   and the header shows it as html
   
   If I use Evo to send an html email everything works fine.
   
   any ideas??
   
   P.S.  I have also tried sending the email from a Cold Fusion page and I get the 
same behavior.
   
   
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Re: [Evolution] Console perms messed up (was: RPMS for Palm m500series)

2002-07-30 Thread Stuart Luppescu
On 月, 2002-07-29 at 05:41, Not Zed wrote:
 use strace to find out what the actual reason is (perms or existance,
 etc)
 On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 04:17, Stuart Luppescu wrote:
  On 日, 2002-07-28 at 13:20, Etienne Tourigny wrote:
   Greetings,
   
   due to demand for Palm m500 compatible evolution RPMS I just put 4 RPMS
   at the following URL:
   
   http://www.omeo.ca/pub/evolution/
   
   evolution-1.0.8-et.3.i386.rpm (binaries are stripped)
   gnome-pilot-0.1.65-et.3.i386.rpm  (contains gnome-pilot-devel)
   gnome-pilot-conduits-0.9-et.3.i386.rpm
   pilot-link-0.10.99-et.3.i386.rpm
  
  This now works fine with my M515, but now I find that I can't start a
  wterm (rxvt modified to be WindowMaker-like). I get these messages:
  
  wterm: can't open pseudo-tty
  wterm: aborting

This is pretty weird. When I tried strace on my machine at work, I get
this:

open("/dev/ptyx6", O_RDWR)  = 4
access("/dev/ttyx6", R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0
open("/dev/ptyx7", O_RDWR)  = 4
access("/dev/ttyx7", R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0
open("/dev/ptyx8", O_RDWR)  = 4
access("/dev/ttyx8", R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0
open("/dev/ptyx9", O_RDWR)  = 4
access("/dev/ttyx9", R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0
open("/dev/ptyxa", O_RDWR)  = 4
access("/dev/ttyxa", R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0
open("/dev/ptyxb", O_RDWR)  = 4
access("/dev/ttyxb", R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0

This is just a section of what strace produces. There are 175 such
EACCES errors. But when I run it on my computer at home (basically the
same setup) I get this:

open("/dev/ptyx5", O_RDWR)  = 4
access("/dev/ttyx5", R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0
open("/dev/ptyx6", O_RDWR)  = 4
access("/dev/ttyx6", R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0
open("/dev/ptyx7", O_RDWR)  = 4
access("/dev/ttyx7", R_OK|W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
close(4)= 0
open("/dev/ptyx8", O_RDWR)  = -1 EIO (Input/output error)
open("/dev/ptyx9", O_RDWR)  = 4
access("/dev/ttyx9", R_OK|W_OK) = 0

In this case, there are 135 lines with the EACCES error but then it
succeeds on /dev/ptyx9. I sure don't get it.
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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-30 Thread Aaron Kemp

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:06, Dan Winship wrote:
  Ok!  Then, the best way for this to work is:
  
  1) Search the Recipient list for an address in your accounts
  (this should fail on a mailing list, so ...)
  2) Use X-Evolution-Source.
  3) Barring Neither working for some reason, use default account.
 
 So you'd think, but that's basically how it was supposed to work in
 1.0.x and he's saying it didn't really... I suspect something is messing
 up so that it doesn't recognize the X-Evolution-Source header and step 2
 fails.

Exactly correct.

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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-30 Thread Lonnie Borntreger

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 12:56, Dan Winship wrote:
  Why doesn't Evolution simply use the account in the To: tag when you
  do an action on a received message?  If it can't find it, use the
  default.  Sounds simple.
 
 I didn't appear in the To list of your message. How does Evo know what
 account to reply from? The default account will often not be right if
 you have a bunch of accounts.

But that is when it (in 1.0) was supposed to fall back to using the
Evolution Source header (the always method in 1.1) - if you aren't in
the recipient list.  So in either case, for mailing lists, it should
work the same.  However, if someone emails one of my aliases, and the
Evolution Source is use first, it will NEVER use the correct reply.

The email address I use for this any mailing list is an alias, so for
mailing lists, neither 1.0 or 1.1 operation works.  But at least the 1.0
worked for non-mailing list emails.

TTFN, 
Lonnie Borntreger



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Re: [Evolution] Filtering on Specific Header

2002-07-30 Thread Not Zed

use regex's, they're faster and simpler anyway.


On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 00:32, Jeff Bearer wrote:
 I do a lot of filtering on the Received header to stop spammers. But
 there can be several Received headers in a e-mail and the filter only
 looks at the first one.  I don't know if this is by design or not, but
 maybe it would be good to look at all the received headers?
 
 I suppose that a regular expression filter will do the job, I'll have to
 give it a try.  I just wanted to post to make you aware of potentially
 confusing behavior.
 
 
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Re: [Evolution] Total payment

2002-07-30 Thread Rob Brown-Bayliss

What was this?

In Evo 1.1.x I can see that the original mail was 14k, but I see no
body...

Yet another harmeless virus?

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Re: [Evolution] VOrdner bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Not Zed


My guess is that it is being added to the trash and becoming a candidate
for unmatched.  It shouldn't really be doing this though, so its a bug.

I have plans to address this better, but its a lot of work still, and
probably wont make it into 1.2 either.


On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 23:49, Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I've got a curious behaviour with evolution 1.0.8 (ximian for SuSE8.0,
 KDE3 desktop).
 
 When I click on the outbin (Ausgang), suddenly the messages in there
 seem to be added to the VFolder (VOrdner) set, because the Not matched
 (Nicht passend) folder contains all the messages that I have sent.
 (I have all VFolders setup as source==Inbox)
 
 I'm curious if this is considered a bug, and if so, how do other people
 read their personal emails after having filtered out mailing lists via
 VFolders?
 
 TIA,
 
 Andreas
 
 
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Re: [Evolution] VOrdner bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Andreas Kostyrka

Am Die, 2002-07-30 um 13.16 schrieb Not Zed: 
 
 My guess is that it is being added to the trash and becoming a candidate
 for unmatched.  It shouldn't really be doing this though, so its a bug.
Well, this time I could only reproduce it by clicking on Trash, not the outbin.

Basically I have the impression that VFolder is magically trying find out
which folders are to be searched for data sources. And it seems to get it wrong
often. :(
It seems to produce some hard to reproduce bugs :(

Andreas


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Re: [Evolution] VOrdner bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Not Zed

On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 15:14, Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
 Am Die, 2002-07-30 um 13.16 schrieb Not Zed: 
  
  My guess is that it is being added to the trash and becoming a candidate
  for unmatched.  It shouldn't really be doing this though, so its a bug.
 Well, this time I could only reproduce it by clicking on Trash, not the outbin.
 
 Basically I have the impression that VFolder is magically trying find out
 which folders are to be searched for data sources. And it seems to get it wrong
 often. :(

Not really.  When the vtrash is created, it is marked as a 'private'
folder, which should not become part of the unmatched code.

All other vfolders it doesn't do 'magic' like that either.

 It seems to produce some hard to reproduce bugs :(

*shrug*




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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-30 Thread Kenneth Porter

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 11:06, Dan Winship wrote:

  1) Search the Recipient list for an address in your accounts
  (this should fail on a mailing list, so ...)
  2) Use X-Evolution-Source.
  3) Barring Neither working for some reason, use default account.
 
 So you'd think, but that's basically how it was supposed to work in
 1.0.x and he's saying it didn't really... I suspect something is messing
 up so that it doesn't recognize the X-Evolution-Source header and step 2
 fails.

That's my take, as well, and I'm using the latest 1.1 snapshot,
downloaded yesterday. 

How about scanning the Received from delivery chain from source to
destination first, then looking in recipients, and finally at the
X-Evolution-Source header?

I'm attaching your message as I received it below so you can check out
the headers. For some reason, evo picked my [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(default) account when I selected reply to list. Both accounts are
POP3.


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On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 13:50, Ryan P Skadberg wrote:
 Ah  now I get this.
 
 So, basically, you have 2 IMAP accounts

He was actually talking about 2 POP accounts, but it should work
basically the same.

 Ok!  Then, the best way for this to work is:
 
 1) Search the Recipient list for an address in your accounts
 (this should fail on a mailing list, so ...)
 2) Use X-Evolution-Source.
 3) Barring Neither working for some reason, use default account.

So you'd think, but that's basically how it was supposed to work in
1.0.x and he's saying it didn't really... I suspect something is messing
up so that it doesn't recognize the X-Evolution-Source header and step 2
fails.

-- Dan


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