Re: [Evolution] emacs style key bindings

2001-12-16 Thread Chris Ball

On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 03:32:09PM -0500, Eric Bourque wrote:
> I was surprised to find that the text widget in mail composition doesn't
> support the "standard" emacs key bindings. At least the basic ones like
> C-a for beginning of line, C-e for end of line. Instead these are mapped
> to select all and find regular expression.
> 
> Are there any bindings for beginning of line and end of line? Can one
> change the current bindings?

Certainly, though the functionality is in the gtkhtml pane, rather than
Evolution.  To change gtkhtml keybindings, go to the Control Center and
'Document Handlers->HTML Viewer->Keyboard Shortcuts'; there is an
'emacs-like' default, which is probably what you're after.

Hope this helps,

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Re: [Evolution] using evolution in multiple locations

2001-12-13 Thread Chris Ball

On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 11:49:26AM -0800, Jeremy Hansen wrote:
> What method are people using when they need to use evolution in multiple
> locations.

IMAP.  I run Evolution at work, Evolution at home when it works, and
ssh->mutt when I'm away from both or my install breaks on an upgrade.

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Re: [Evolution] Configuration Database not found..AGAIN.

2001-12-09 Thread Chris Ball

On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 06:13:43PM -0700, Andrew Green wrote:
> I know this has been posted before, but I didn't see any real or 
> satisfactory solution so I'm asking myself.

I'm in the same position as Andrew.  I've had Evo working up to 1.0, and
since upgrading I'm unable to shift this error.  wombat/oafd both start
fine, there aren't any explicit linking problems.  As with Andrew, Í'd
really appreciate it if we could try and find some solutions to this.

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Re: [Evolution] play sound or execute command upon reception of new message?

2001-12-05 Thread Chris Ball

On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 09:45:24AM -0800, etienne sky wrote:
> is there a way to play a sound or execute a command
> when a new message is received (I have found no way
> myself)?  If not, could this feature be implemented
> soon?

It's in bugzilla, and I think I remember someone submitting a patch for
it, soon after 1.0 went to feature freeze.  Perhaps it could be applied?

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Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-04 Thread Chris Ball

On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:00:45AM -0500, Dan Winship wrote:
> Anyway, as far as Evolution is concerned, the Exchange server is just
> another backend that it can read and write iCalendar objects to/from.
> The Connector deals with the details of talking to the server and doing
> what translation is necessary. People using the Connector will still be
> able to do p2p scheduling with people who aren't, etc. Does that answer
> your question?

It does.  And I'd like to add my agreement with just about everyone else
who's posted in reply to my original mail.  With you all the way. 

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Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

2001-12-03 Thread Chris Ball

On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:40:48PM -0800, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote:
> This sounds really interesting.

.. furthermore, it sounds like a wonderful business model, given
that nothing else really does this yet.  It seems that even Evolution
doesn't, from the examples of discussion on here that I've seen - for
example, our calendaring at the moment is p2p, right?  How will Evo(GPL)
handle this when Evo(Proprietary) appears?  Is it really planned to
have a version of iCal that wanders around client->client as well as a
version that talks to servers?

It all sounds a bit, um, icky.  And I'm guessing that the development of
the connector isn't going to be at all publically discussed.  And I'm a
little frustrated that the mail client that I thought was this huge
effort on the part of the community to write the app that's going to 
be a /huge/ part in bringing Linux to the desktop is only going to be
the answer to Outlook in a "Yeah, use Evolution.  It's cool.  Oh, but
you have to pay for Exchange interoperability." way, and that no-one
mentioned this before.  Feels almost like we have to start again, to
find another way of arguing "Linux is free.  You can do _this_ with it."
to our bosses.  

Anyway.  Someone had to rant.  I think the more fair argument is that,
well, /I/ haven't put any code into Evo.  And most of us haven't.  And
there's no way in hell it'd be here if Ximian hadn't hired people and
all of this, so it's at least justified.  

But enough.  I'm off to try and get my 1.0 install alive again.

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[Evolution] Wombat/oaf with 1.0

2001-12-03 Thread Chris Ball

Hi, all.

Just tried to upgrade to 1.0, on Debian/unstable.  I grabbed:

bonobo-conf_0.14-ximian.1_i386.deb
bonobo_1.0.14-ximian.1_i386.deb
evolution_1.0-ximian.3_i386.deb
gtkhtml_1.0.0-ximian.1_i386.deb
libbonobo-conf0_0.14-ximian.1_i386.deb
libgal18_0.18.1-ximian.1_i386.deb
libgnomeprint-bin_0.31-ximian.2_i386.deb
libgnomeprint-data_0.31-ximian.2_all.deb
libgnomeprint15_0.31-ximian.2_i386.deb
libgtkhtml20_1.0.0-ximian.1_i386.deb
liboaf0_0.6.7-ximian.1_i386.deb
oaf_0.6.7-ximian.1_i386.deb

from the ftp site, and installed in an order that dpkg seemed to like.
(gal, gnomeprint, gtkhtml, libbonobo-conf, bonobo-conf, bonobo, liboaf,
oaf, evo)  Tried to start Evo, and while the splash screen came up, all
the components are dead:

camel:chris~ % evolution   

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Could not start up component for
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_ShellComponent.

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot activate Evolution component --
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_ShellComponent

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Could not start up component for
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent.

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot activate Evolution component --
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Could not start up component for
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Summary_ShellComponent.

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot activate Evolution component --
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Summary_ShellComponent

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Could not start up component for
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Addressbook_ShellComponent.

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot activate Evolution component --
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Addressbook_ShellComponent

evolution-shell-WARNING **: No folder metadata in
/home/chris/evolution/local/Inbox/subfolders/evolution-list... ignoring

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Error starting wombat:
(IDL:CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0)
camel:chris~ % 

Any hints on where to start?  /usr/bin/wombat is present, but wasn't
upgraded, as there aren't any packages for it on the ftp.  Should
version 1.0 of wombat be okay for the Evo 1.0 release?

Thanks.  Let me know if any other types of output would help,

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Re: [Evolution] Perhaps we should keep a list of IMAP/POP serversthat we know Evolution works well with.

2001-11-18 Thread Chris Ball

On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 14:49, Eelco van Beek wrote:
> Well, indeed it would be a possibility to use imap for storing a
> calendar. But it won't provide real calendar sharing, which involves
> user/rights management. I have no idea if there's a standard on shared
> calendars / addressbooks.

There certainly is.  It's called iCal, and is defined by the IETF. (RFCs
2445-2447).  It's supported by Evolution, Palm's OS, Outlook; you get
the idea.

If you want to add support into your own software, there are details at 
http://softwarestudio.org/libical/ .

Hope this helps,

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution over ethernet

2001-11-15 Thread Chris Ball

On Thu, 2001-11-15 at 19:46, Janne Morén wrote:
> A reason people haven't run it remotely is probably that it's quite
> painful to do so; part of it is the constant redrawing (which is barely
> noticeable locally, but is slow over the net), and partially because
> it's so difficult  (or, at least, was) to get it running over an SSH
> connection at all. Only after a remote 'killev' and 'oaf-slay' would I
> get anything more than just the mail-shell (and then only sometimes -
> looked like a timeout issue or something).

I guessed at the time that it was a problem with my X install, but
perhaps not; I tried exporting Evo to my SGI machine, running IRIX 6.5. 
Didn't get any toolbars at all, but it was usable using right-clicks to
choose things like reply.  It /is/ a very old X install, but other apps
(mozila, other gtk mail clients) export to it fine.  Any ideas, guys?

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Re: [Evolution] Accessing folders (not thru Evolution)

2001-11-15 Thread Chris Ball

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 08:05:29AM -0500, John Harlow wrote:
> My question is, what options exist for me to access the data in my
> Evolution system directly, w/out having to go thru the application
> itself? 

They're all there, in:

~/evolution/local/Inbox/mbox# for locally stored
~/evolution/local/Inbox/subfolders/$folder/mbox # mail, as mbox files.

and

~/evolution/mail/imap/$address/$folder/ # for remote mail.

All are readable via a standard editor, or even by something like 'mutt'
with the -f switch and a filename.

Hope this helps, (and perhaps this should go in an FAQ of some sort?)

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Re: [Evolution] Reply should come from source account

2001-11-14 Thread Chris Ball

On Wed, 2001-11-14 at 19:49, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> But pretend you are setting up evolution to check mail from your work
> address and your isp mail address, you'd want both accounts to use your
> isp's smtp server

It's a side point - I agree with the behaviour of 'guessing' an SMTP
server; but I do use different SMTP servers at home and work.  My ISP's
mail server only relays for hosts inside their network, which my work
machine isn't, and my work SMTP server does the same.

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Re: [Evolution] Return receipts

2001-11-13 Thread Chris Ball

On Tue, 2001-11-13 at 18:46, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> No, Evolution doesn't support return receipts. It's probably already
> filed in the bug/feature tracker though (bugzilla.ximian.com).

Is there a patch waiting for post-1.0?  It's just an X-header, iirc.

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Re: [Evolution] Camel API?

2001-11-03 Thread Chris Ball

On Sat, 2001-11-03 at 14:05, Janne Morén wrote:
> As the Evolution code is approaching the utter zen-like stillness and
> stability expected of every 1.0 release, and I am in search of a new
> thesis-avoidance strategy, I'd thought I'd start to look into the
> possibility of a simple text-mode frontend to evolution (which is great
> when you're on the road and can only use SSH to get to your mail).

I still think this is a nice idea; but in case you hadn't realised, you
can already access your Evolution mailboxes from a console session.  Evo
stores mailboxes in mbox (or maildir, if you prefer) format, in
$evolution/local/Inbox/{mbox,Subfolders/*/mbox}, and you can pass these
as arguments to an MUA like mutt, or even less/more if you're stuck.

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Re: [Evolution] Redhat 7.2

2001-10-22 Thread Chris Ball

On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 15:21, Janne Morén wrote:
> I'm about to install redhat 7.2, and I'm wondering if anybody has been
> able to install evolution (or, indeed Ximian Gnome) under the betas;
> will the 7.1 RPM:s work if I remove the original Gnome rpm:s?

While it's often not the most reliable news source, slashdot's article
on 7.2's release states the following:

 If you're upgrading from the previous Red Hat 7.1 and you're using
 Ximian GNOME, then you might want to erase all Ximian GNOME RPMS (use
 the command: rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep -i ximian` --nodeps to erase the
 RPMS). Red Hat's GNOME RPMS has been more tested then Ximian's one and
 there is a conflict between them. You cannot use Red-Carpet on Redhat
 7.2 as it will fail with the RPM libraries.

Not that I can make an immense amount of sense of the English or
technical meaning in there, but it seems that things aren't too well
supported at the moment.  I'm sure that RH7.2 is one of Ximian's main
target platforms, though, so it won't be too long before things are
fixed.

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Re: [Evolution] New problems with 0.15 and IMAP

2001-10-05 Thread Chris Ball

On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 20:35, Julia A. Case wrote:
> On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 03:17, Mikael Wahlberg wrote:
> > And from time to time, Evo sort of freezes when I am reading an IMAP
> > folder. 
> 
> I was begining to think I was the only one seeing this (I saw it in both
> beta 4 and beta 5)  it seems that during IMAP scans at the end it just
> hangs (CPU usage goes to MAX and stays there for a period of time) 

Are you using sslwrap with IMAP?  I have huge troubles with IMAP as soon
as I turn on ssl, and few without; something to do with the ssl stream
handling.  Maybe.

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[Evolution] Evolution's mbox support

2001-10-04 Thread Chris Ball

Hi, all.

Firstly, I've just upgraded to 0.15 from 0.12; congratulations to all
involved.

I've decided to install xbuffy on my laptop and have it run over X/ssh
to my work machine, reading ~/evolution/local/@folders/mbox - it seemed
like a good idea at the time.  xbuffy works fine in 'original mode';
giving the total mail count rather than unread.  The unread count,
though, seems to stay at 0 whether a message is unread or not.  On
further investigation, it seems Evolution doesn't change the 'Status:'
header at all.  Why is this?

Thanks for the help,

Chris.

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