Re: [Evolution-hackers] Feedback from Slashdot

2005-12-07 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 15:08 +1100, Martin Sevior wrote:
 I fully agree with with the following two points:
 
 1. Evolution deletes mail by putting it into a virtual folder and hiding
 the original message in your inbox. This is ok and seamless to the end
 user UNLESS you happen to also use webmail. In which case your inbox
 will be cluttered by messages you thought you'd gotten rid of ages ago.
 The evolution team has flat out refused to address this issue and has
 been calling this 'not a bug' (which is true) since 2001.

If the webmail system is displaying messages which are quite clearly
marked as deleted, that's a bug in the webmail system.  If I delete a
message in Evolution (which then gets striked out as I have Hide Deleted
Message unchecked), when I view the same folder with Mutt the deleted
messages are marked as Pending Delete.  Exactly what is expected.  If
you want Evolution to really delete all pending messages when it quits,
select Empty Trash On Exit.

 2. Same as above but for Junk Mail.
 
 I use evolution as my primary email system but sometimes I have to use
 webmail. When I do, all the nicely identified and hidden spam reappears
 in both webmail and evolution.

From a guess it sounds like the webmail client is resetting flags it
doesn't understand.  Again, the solution is to empty the Junk folder.

Ross
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[Evolution-hackers] Should I unref a CamelMesageInfoBase?

2005-12-07 Thread Jules Colding
Hi,

Must I unref a reference to a message info when retrieved by
camel_folder_summary_uid()? This function increases the refcount before
returning it.

I can see from gw_update_summary() in the GroupWise provider that it
never unrefs the reference. Is that wrong?

Thanks,
  jules


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Feedback from Slashdot

2005-12-07 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 23:40 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't shoot the messenger. I use evolution. Here is what bugs me and
 someone who is in aposition to recommend evolution over a rival.
 
 I'm just telling you these are real annoyances.
 
 For instance. I often leave evolution running 24 hours a day on my
 workstation at work because then it nicely filters incoming emails into
 real imap folders.

Filtering on IMAP is sub-optimal due to various issues, it's recommended
to use server-side filtering in this case.

 Junk mail does not get filtered into a real imap folder so as soon as I
 connect with my webmail client, spam gets splattered back into my inbox.

The built-in junk filter (in my opinion) only works well when Evolution
fetches the mail itself, in the IMAP case this doesn't happen.

Have you tried creating another filter with the Messsage Is Junk test to
move all junk mail to a real folder?

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Feedback from Slashdot

2005-12-07 Thread Brett Johnson
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 15:08 +1100, Martin Sevior wrote:
 I fully agree with with the following two points:
 
 1. Evolution deletes mail by putting it into a virtual folder and hiding
 the original message in your inbox.

This is not a true statement.  Evolution deletes mail by setting the
IMAP deleted flag on the message.  Evolution also adds the optional
ability to hide deleted messages from view if you want, and to have a
virtual folder that can show you all deleted messages if you want.

If you don't want evolution to hide the deleted messages, simply uncheck
the Hide Deleted Messages option in the View menu.

And if you don't want to see your deleted messages in the trash
virtual folder, just don't look there ;)

And if you want to expunge all the deleted messages out of your imap
folder, so you will never see them again, or be able to recover them,
hit ctrl-E, or select Expunge from the Folder menu.

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