Re: [Evolution] [IMAP] Filtering and Expunging
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 19:38 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 21:45 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 14:36 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 16:38 +0100, michael wrote: (although evolution-data-server-1.6 was there for the initial second after close down). Just for kicks I quit Evo and waited a while. evolution-data-server was still there half an hour later and stayed there when I fired up Evo again. Same PID the whole time. Yes, evo-data-server hangs around, but on my system it doesn't filter if evo itself isn't active. I can also see on the server that the IMAP connection is closed down when I quit evo. This is Fedora 7 Gnome. I wonder if it's anything to do with the backend IMAP server (I'm using dovecot). My IMAP server is Cyrus. I'd be surprised if that matters though. My conclusion that filters are still active is based on observing that when I leave e-d-s running on (say) my office machine, by the time I get home I find a bunch of messages in my Inbox and *also* filed into their various folders (i.e. physically distinct copies -- I made sure of this by looking at the message files on the Cyrus server). At first I thought this was a problem with my filter rules, but after checking my filter log I'm convinced that it isn't. I conjecture that the reason the messages are still in my Inbox is that the e-d-s session on the office machine has refiled them and marked them for deletion, but because there is no active GUI on that machine the local state has not been synched with the server, so when I fire up a new Evo session at home I see them as still present. This behaviour went away when I started killing e-d-s before changing machines. If anyone has a better explanation I'd be glad to hear it. No explanation I'm afraid, but I've just checked the open files on the evo processes. e-d-s does not have any IMAP connections active, it only has ldap/ical external connections. All the IMAP processes belong to evolution itself and they all get shutdown once the evo gui has quit. P. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [IMAP] Filtering and Expunging
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 15:52 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: try suspending your laptop, go to home/work and open evolution there on another box... Then you got 500 mails that you have previously deleted/filtered... The IMAP protocol provides *no* guarantees about consistency when two or more clients are accessing the same mailbox simultaneously. This is not an Evo problem. Increasing the frequency of expunges will reduce the possibility of race conditions but not eliminate them entirely (BTW that's probably why your filters aren't working as expected.) In fact, the problem is that Evolution doesn't even marks the mails as deleted on the server, and that's a *BUG*. If you remember to put Evo offline before suspending (the small icon in the bottom-left corner), Evo will tell the IMAP server which mails are deleted and all is well (you can even purge or undelete the deleted mails with an other client). The problem is that it should do that regularly, in case of lost connexion or surprise suspend. Thunderbird does it and it's a life-saver. Note that I'm speaking about deleted emails, not purged emails. As per the IMAP spec, purging should be done separately. Yes, that bug has been reported many times over the years, and never fixed. Xav ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [IMAP] Filtering and Expunging
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 10:27 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 15:52 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: try suspending your laptop, go to home/work and open evolution there on another box... Then you got 500 mails that you have previously deleted/filtered... The IMAP protocol provides *no* guarantees about consistency when two or more clients are accessing the same mailbox simultaneously. This is not an Evo problem. Increasing the frequency of expunges will reduce the possibility of race conditions but not eliminate them entirely (BTW that's probably why your filters aren't working as expected.) In fact, the problem is that Evolution doesn't even marks the mails as deleted on the server, and that's a *BUG*. If you remember to put Evo offline before suspending (the small icon in the bottom-left corner), Evo will tell the IMAP server which mails are deleted and all is well (you can even purge or undelete the deleted mails with an other client). The problem is that it should do that regularly, in case of lost connexion or surprise suspend. Thunderbird does it and it's a life-saver. Exactly! Thunderbird does this very well and I think it uses a regular expunge approach. This would save me so many time during the day.. Note that I'm speaking about deleted emails, not purged emails. As per the IMAP spec, purging should be done separately. Yes, that bug has been reported many times over the years, and never fixed. Please devs, consider this issue. If Evo was not a big code monster, I would contribute myself with a patch. Ruben ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 09:05 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: Good god .. no wonder the connector is unuseable. I had high hopes for a linux desktop, in part based on the expectation of having a fully compatible groupware client for exchange. Revere engineered products/projects do lack 100% compatibility and To the majority of us, for us that really want to at least get our emails off the server, having this work is essential, esp when they've closed off the POP/IMAP ports. I for one, am only interested in gettting the mails. Calendering and others can wait. Veerapuram is a novell employee and he's tasked to get evo-exchange working and we, at least can just support him. (Unless of course, we can send him patches!) BTW, openchange looks great.. Brutus is another one which looks great on paper (but I have 1 nit-pick which has prevented me from evaluating it - it needs a windows box to be installed to - the server portion anyway to do the MAPI translation) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [IMAP] Filtering and Expunging
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 09:31 +0100, Ruben Fonseca wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 10:27 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 15:52 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: try suspending your laptop, go to home/work and open evolution there on another box... Then you got 500 mails that you have previously deleted/filtered... The IMAP protocol provides *no* guarantees about consistency when two or more clients are accessing the same mailbox simultaneously. This is not an Evo problem. Increasing the frequency of expunges will reduce the possibility of race conditions but not eliminate them entirely (BTW that's probably why your filters aren't working as expected.) In fact, the problem is that Evolution doesn't even marks the mails as deleted on the server, and that's a *BUG*. If you remember to put Evo offline before suspending (the small icon in the bottom-left corner), Evo will tell the IMAP server which mails are deleted and all is well (you can even purge or undelete the deleted mails with an other client). The problem is that it should do that regularly, in case of lost connexion or surprise suspend. Thunderbird does it and it's a life-saver. Exactly! Thunderbird does this very well and I think it uses a regular expunge approach. You didn't read my mail. Thunderbird doesn't expunge anything unless told so. It just tells the server the mails have been marked as deleted right when they are, whereas Evo does so only before deconnection from the server. There lies the trouble. Xav ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 16:40 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: BTW, openchange looks great.. Brutus is another one which looks great on paper (but I have 1 nit-pick which has prevented me from evaluating it - it needs a windows box to be installed to - the server portion anyway to do the MAPI translation) Yes, I admit that the Windows server requirement is annoying but as Varadhan said: Reverse engineered products/projects do lack 100% compatibility... So the Windows server part is needed if Brutus should be 100% compatible with native MAPI. A less perfect solution, one that would remove the Windows server requirement, would be to use libmapi (once available) in Brutus Server and relocate it to, say, linux. That would maintain the most important feature of Brutus, platform independence for the clients, and at the same time free the server from the Windows requirement but at the cost of 100% compatibility with native MAPI(*). Anyway - just speculating here... Best regards, jules (*) It might also impact the ability of Brutus to support Lotus Domino which we are working on. Time will show... ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] how to persuade Iceape to use Evo
Since my Debian upgrade (or before?) it appears that clicking on a mailto URL in Iceape doesn't open a new email using Evolution -- any ideas on how to get this to happen? I've looked at Iceape prefs (nothing set) and Gnome's preferred functions (set to Evolution) but can't see what's wrong. More details below. Thank, Michael Gnome v 2.14.3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.evolution/mail/imap/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/folders/INBOX$ dpkg -l|grep -i -e evolution -e iceape ii evolution2.6.3-6 groupware suite with mail client and organizer ii evolution-common 2.6.3-6 architecture independent files for Evolution ii evolution-data-server1.6.3-5 evolution database backend server ii evolution-data-server-common 1.6.3-5 architecture independent files for Evolution Data Server ii evolution-dbg2.6.3-6 debugging symbols for Evolution ii evolution-plugins2.6.3-6 standard plugins for Evolution ii iceape 1.0.9-0etch1 The Iceape Internet Suite ii iceape-browser 1.0.8-4 Iceape Navigator (Internet browser) and Composer ii iceape-chatzilla 1.0.8-4 Iceape Chatzilla IRC client ii iceape-gnome-support 1.0.8-4 Gnome support for the Iceape Internet Suite ii iceape-mailnews 1.0.8-4 Iceape Mail Newsgroups and Address Book ii libcamel1.2-81.6.3-5 The Evolution MIME message handling library ii libebook1.2-51.6.3-5 Client library for evolution address books rc libebook81.0.4-1 Client library for evolution address books ii libecal1.2-6 1.6.3-5 Client library for evolution calendars rc libecal6 1.0.4-1 Client library for evolution calendars rc libedata-book1 1.0.4-1 Backend library for evolution address books ii libedata-book1.2-2 1.6.3-5 Backend library for evolution address books ii libedata-cal1.2-51.6.3-5 Backend library for evolution calendars rc libedata-cal51.0.4-1 Backend library for evolution calendars ii libedataserver1.2-7 1.6.3-5 Utility library for evolution data servers rc libedataserver3 1.0.4-1 Utily library for evolution data servers ii libedataserverui1.2-61.6.3-5 GUI utility library for evolution data servers ii libexchange-storage1.2-1 1.6.3-5 Backend library for evolution calendars ii mail-notification-evolution 3.0.dfsg.1-10+b1 evolution support for mail notification ii mozilla 1.8+1.0.8-4 Transition package for the Iceape Internet Suite ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On 6/20/07, Veerapuram Varadhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be ideal if it could bypass OWA and just access the MAPI interface. Maybe the Openchange MAPI libs will help to achieve this. http://www.openchange.org/ That is definitely the future direction of Evolution-exchange. We will be evaluating this in couple of weeks and update go-evolution.org with the same. V. Varadhan so using the open-exchange lib is now the direction of the eds project? Is this a new direction (ie you just heard about it, and think it's a good idea)? Or, was it a strategic decision taken by the entire team some time ago, and just in the next couple weeks your time has cleared to get started on it? Frankly I don't see much commitment here to get this done ... why is that? I am not criticising you in this Varadhan ... but rather wondering out loud why for so long this project has had such little commitment of resources? Perhaps not enough people within Novell/Gnome really get just how badly the evo exchange connection is required in order to get traction with a linux desktop? At any rate -- to me, it would be very good if, when installing evo, if I could select from amongst the various connector styles. I would like to see as menu options traditional evo connector and brutus connector (yes, which will assume the process is installed out there somewhere). Hopefully this open exchange lib will provide so traction, quickly too it is ridiculous that I have to have a windows vm and Outlook in order to view a shared calendar or function even reasonably well with exchange. I've said it before, and can only re-enforce the message ... right now it is a deal breaker for wider corp adoption of linux desktop. Please get some resources on it and make it a PRIORITY. Peter ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] how to persuade Iceape to use Evo
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 11:23 +0100, michael wrote: Since my Debian upgrade (or before?) it appears that clicking on a mailto URL in Iceape doesn't open a new email using Evolution -- any ideas on how to get this to happen? I've looked at Iceape prefs (nothing set) and Gnome's preferred functions (set to Evolution) but can't see what's wrong. More details below. Thank, Michael http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdepim-usersm=113760520620502w=2 alter the variables to fit ( firefox==iceape kmail==evolution ) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [IMAP] Filtering and Expunging
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 10:56 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: You didn't read my mail. Thunderbird doesn't expunge anything unless told so. It just tells the server the mails have been marked as deleted right when they are, whereas Evo does so only before deconnection from the server. There lies the trouble. I think it also does it when you switch folders, but anyway ... poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [IMAP] Filtering and Expunging
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 07:17 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 19:38 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 21:45 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 14:36 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 16:38 +0100, michael wrote: (although evolution-data-server-1.6 was there for the initial second after close down). Just for kicks I quit Evo and waited a while. evolution-data-server was still there half an hour later and stayed there when I fired up Evo again. Same PID the whole time. Yes, evo-data-server hangs around, but on my system it doesn't filter if evo itself isn't active. I can also see on the server that the IMAP connection is closed down when I quit evo. This is Fedora 7 Gnome. I wonder if it's anything to do with the backend IMAP server (I'm using dovecot). My IMAP server is Cyrus. I'd be surprised if that matters though. My conclusion that filters are still active is based on observing that when I leave e-d-s running on (say) my office machine, by the time I get home I find a bunch of messages in my Inbox and *also* filed into their various folders (i.e. physically distinct copies -- I made sure of this by looking at the message files on the Cyrus server). At first I thought this was a problem with my filter rules, but after checking my filter log I'm convinced that it isn't. I conjecture that the reason the messages are still in my Inbox is that the e-d-s session on the office machine has refiled them and marked them for deletion, but because there is no active GUI on that machine the local state has not been synched with the server, so when I fire up a new Evo session at home I see them as still present. This behaviour went away when I started killing e-d-s before changing machines. If anyone has a better explanation I'd be glad to hear it. No explanation I'm afraid, but I've just checked the open files on the evo processes. e-d-s does not have any IMAP connections active, it only has ldap/ical external connections. All the IMAP processes belong to evolution itself and they all get shutdown once the evo gui has quit. Do you put Evo in offline mode before quitting the GUI? Since I never use offline mode I'm wondering if that's what makes the difference. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [IMAP] Filtering and Expunging
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 09:06 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 10:56 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: You didn't read my mail. Thunderbird doesn't expunge anything unless told so. It just tells the server the mails have been marked as deleted right when they are, whereas Evo does so only before deconnection from the server. There lies the trouble. I think it also does it when you switch folders, but anyway ... Yes, and that introduces unwanted delays when switching ... Xav ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] how to persuade Iceape to use Evo
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 09:05 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 11:23 +0100, michael wrote: Since my Debian upgrade (or before?) it appears that clicking on a mailto URL in Iceape doesn't open a new email using Evolution -- any ideas on how to get this to happen? I've looked at Iceape prefs (nothing set) and Gnome's preferred functions (set to Evolution) but can't see what's wrong. More details below. Thank, Michael http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdepim-usersm=113760520620502w=2 alter the variables to fit ( firefox==iceape kmail==evolution ) Reid, thanks for that. I had to add the two strings (variables?) into the about:config NB to others who're not used to this - choose 'new - boolean' for the boolean vars (I can't see how to delete a var and start again if mess this up!) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 07:23 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: On 6/20/07, Veerapuram Varadhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be ideal if it could bypass OWA and just access the MAPI interface. Maybe the Openchange MAPI libs will help to achieve this. http://www.openchange.org/ That is definitely the future direction of Evolution-exchange. We will be evaluating this in couple of weeks and update go-evolution.org with the same. V. Varadhan so using the open-exchange lib is now the direction of the eds project? Is this a new direction (ie you just heard about it, and think it's a good idea)? Or, was it a strategic decision taken by the entire team some time ago, and just in the next couple weeks your time has cleared to get started on it? It is isn't a new direction. We have heard about it little long back and I personally have been following their development and milestones closely. All strategic decisions are taken after careful evaluation and as the current Exchange connector has evolved over the years to the extent that now it can connect out of the box for most of the user scenarios - any decision to adapt to new framework will have to undergo a series of brainstorming. Couple of weeks time is for us to arrive at a plan/roadmap and publish it for the hacker/user community that are interested in Evolution. This roadmap will not throw-away the development of Evolution-exchange connector, rather serve as a place holder for openchange hackers to work closely with our team/community. Once the plugin evolves and stable enough to take the place of Evolution-exchange connector - a decision will be made based on user feedbacks. Frankly I don't see much commitment here to get this done ... why is that? I am not criticising you in this Varadhan ... but rather wondering out loud why for so long this project has had such little commitment of resources? If you are talking about commitment on supporting Exchange 2007 - Yes, we are committed to support it and we even have mentioned to support it in 2.12 release. Let me know if you have any other ways of giving a commitment. Perhaps not enough people within Novell/Gnome really get just how badly the evo exchange connection is required in order to get traction with a linux desktop? Every one, both at Novell/GNOME, understands that Evolution - Exchange connectivity is quite vital for Linux desktop adoption and we are committed to fulfill it. If you would have closely watched the development of Evolution-exchange connector atleast for the last three releases, 2.6.x, 2.8.x and 2.10.x - it has become quite stable and getting better and better with every release. We have fixed loads of issues - both functionality and performance wise and are committed to do better. As of this moment, I am collecting some data-points on my recent optimization work that will make most of our evolution-exchange users stand on their toes and even out-performs MS Outlook. Hopefully this open exchange lib will provide so traction, quickly too it is ridiculous that I have to have a windows vm and Outlook in order to view a shared calendar or function even reasonably well with exchange. Evolution does support shared calendar and public folder subscription/other user folder subscription are the areas that we have worked extensively in the recent past and are quite stable now. 2.11.5 will be one of the rock-solid releases in the history of Evolution-exchange connector. If you are not an user of Exchange 2007 and have issues, feel free to direct to us. I think Reid and others would agree to me on this - we will work on the issue and resolve it. I've said it before, and can only re-enforce the message ... right now it is a deal breaker for wider corp adoption of linux desktop. Please get some resources on it and make it a PRIORITY. If you are mentioning about Exchange 2007 - Yes and Yes, we are committed to resolve it before we release 2.12. Thanks, V. Varadhan -- Veerapuram Varadhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. Software for the Open Enterprise™ http://www.novell.com ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 16:40 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 09:05 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: Good god .. no wonder the connector is unuseable. I had high hopes for a linux desktop, in part based on the expectation of having a fully compatible groupware client for exchange. Revere engineered products/projects do lack 100% compatibility and To the majority of us, for us that really want to at least get our emails off the server, having this work is essential, esp when they've closed off the POP/IMAP ports. I for one, am only interested in gettting the mails. Calendering and others can wait. Veerapuram is a novell employee and he's tasked to get evo-exchange working and we, at least can just support him. (Unless of course, we can send him patches!) Thanks for the support, Heng. I will work on it and atleast make it fetch mails/calendars/contacts, if not the extended features in Exchange 2007. BTW, openchange looks great.. Brutus is another one which looks great on paper (but I have 1 nit-pick which has prevented me from evaluating it - it needs a windows box to be installed to - the server portion anyway to do the MAPI translation) Brutus and Openchange are two other options, apart from the default evolution-exchange connector, to access a MS Exchange mailbox. And, both are in active development are good enough for everyone to try it. Above all, its the power of F/OSS - choice - one is not bound to a particular product/software. If the question is about Evolution embracing Brutus/Openchange/implement support for MS Exchange Web Service protocol (the new interface that would replace the current webDAV interface), I would say it is too early to comment now and let them evolve - in terms of stability/performance/feature support/user base. ;-) Thanks, V. Varadhan -- Veerapuram Varadhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. Software for the Open Enterprise™ http://www.novell.com ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [IMAP] Filtering and Expunging
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 09:08 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 07:17 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 19:38 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 21:45 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 14:36 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 16:38 +0100, michael wrote: (although evolution-data-server-1.6 was there for the initial second after close down). Just for kicks I quit Evo and waited a while. evolution-data-server was still there half an hour later and stayed there when I fired up Evo again. Same PID the whole time. Yes, evo-data-server hangs around, but on my system it doesn't filter if evo itself isn't active. I can also see on the server that the IMAP connection is closed down when I quit evo. This is Fedora 7 Gnome. I wonder if it's anything to do with the backend IMAP server (I'm using dovecot). My IMAP server is Cyrus. I'd be surprised if that matters though. My conclusion that filters are still active is based on observing that when I leave e-d-s running on (say) my office machine, by the time I get home I find a bunch of messages in my Inbox and *also* filed into their various folders (i.e. physically distinct copies -- I made sure of this by looking at the message files on the Cyrus server). At first I thought this was a problem with my filter rules, but after checking my filter log I'm convinced that it isn't. I conjecture that the reason the messages are still in my Inbox is that the e-d-s session on the office machine has refiled them and marked them for deletion, but because there is no active GUI on that machine the local state has not been synched with the server, so when I fire up a new Evo session at home I see them as still present. This behaviour went away when I started killing e-d-s before changing machines. If anyone has a better explanation I'd be glad to hear it. No explanation I'm afraid, but I've just checked the open files on the evo processes. e-d-s does not have any IMAP connections active, it only has ldap/ical external connections. All the IMAP processes belong to evolution itself and they all get shutdown once the evo gui has quit. Do you put Evo in offline mode before quitting the GUI? Since I never use offline mode I'm wondering if that's what makes the difference. Nope just quit using the window 'x' button - I never use offline mode either. After you close down Evo try running lsof on the e-d-s process, you will see that there are no IMAP connections active. You should also look at the netstat -a output to see if anything is talking IMAP. Ultimately, I suppose you could use tcpdump/wireshark to see what IMAP packets are flying around. P. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] OK Guys, what did you do ??
Hi; I started a thread a couple of days ago, Two nit-pics ??, about no word wrapping in vertical mode. I got a couple of individual responses from Ritesh and Daniel commiserating. Today everything is wrapping perfectly. If you are going to fix something, let a guy know. I almost checked myself into the local mental hospital. I don't think I have had a recent (can't remember for sure) Fedora 7 Evolution upgrade but there may have been other related packages. Am I going nuts or was there a fix in those? -- Regards Bill ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Persistent intermitent Compose widow freeze ??
Hi; Has anyone else had this problem? Is it a bug? Every now and them my compose window freezes and freezes all other applications on my machine. My hard drive comes on and continues to run for no apparent reason. The CPU does not seem to be being used but can only recognize a keyboard or mouse command every 10 - 30 seconds or so. The only way out is to Ctrl-Alt-Fx; login as root killall -u user and reboot. It feels like the compose widow has set up a loop. I say feels like because I have been unable to catch it with top or see if a continuous swap has been going on. It is not a new problem. I have had it happen to me in FC5, FC6 and now F-7. This freezing is rare and seems random, but persistent. Is there any way I can capture what is happening. message log doesn't seem to reveal anything. -- Regards Bill ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] OK Guys, what did you do ??
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 14:01 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; I started a thread a couple of days ago, Two nit-pics ??, about no word wrapping in vertical mode. I got a couple of individual responses from Ritesh and Daniel commiserating. Today everything is wrapping perfectly. If you are going to fix something, let a guy know. I almost checked myself into the local mental hospital. would you parcel your computer to me, while you are away ;) I don't think I have had a recent (can't remember for sure) Fedora 7 Evolution upgrade but there may have been other related packages. Am I going nuts or was there a fix in those? there was an update i believe (evolution-2.10.2-2.fc7) , and this ironed out two bugs that kept hitting me bad - crash on shutdown, and crash on opening task on startup. ps : I finally feel, evolution team is cleaning up evolution. three cheers from me for people working on evolution. aw well, time to upgrade to evolution 2.11.x series . -- Ritesh Khadgaray ॐ मणि पद्मे हूँ LinuX N Stuff Ph: +919970164885 Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Persistent intermitent Compose widow freeze ??
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 15:22 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; Has anyone else had this problem? Is it a bug? Every now and them my compose window freezes and freezes all other applications on my machine. My hard drive comes on and continues to run for no apparent reason. The CPU does not seem to be being used but can only recognize a keyboard or mouse command every 10 - 30 seconds or so. Is there a way to reproduce this reliably ? The only way out is to Ctrl-Alt-Fx; login as root killall -u user and reboot. It feels like the compose widow has set up a loop. I say feels reboot ? Is the system thrashing ? like because I have been unable to catch it with top or see if a continuous swap has been going on. If disk is thrashing, open up a terminal, and shutdoen evolution, set memory limits and startup evolution from the terminal. $ evolution --force-shutdown $ ulimits -v 50 $ evolution Try obtaining a bt of evolution from command line, this might help the developer. ( http://live.gnome.org/GettingTraces ) It is not a new problem. I have had it happen to me in FC5, FC6 and now F-7. This freezing is rare and seems random, but persistent. Have you filled a bugzilla for the same ? Is there any way I can capture what is happening. message log doesn't seem to reveal anything. ps: i am not a evolution developer. -- Ritesh Khadgaray ॐ मणि पद्मे हूँ LinuX N Stuff Ph: +919970164885 Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Persistent intermitent Compose widow freeze ??
Hi Ritesh; On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 01:26 +0530, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 15:22 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; Has anyone else had this problem? Is it a bug? Every now and them my compose window freezes and freezes all other applications on my machine. My hard drive comes on and continues to run for no apparent reason. The CPU does not seem to be being used but can only recognize a keyboard or mouse command every 10 - 30 seconds or so. Is there a way to reproduce this reliably ? No. Sometime it goes for months without happening. That is why I have left it for so long without looking for a fix. The only way out is to Ctrl-Alt-Fx; login as root killall -u user and reboot. It feels like the compose widow has set up a loop. I say feels reboot ? Is the system thrashing ? Probably. Have tried to get a look at the swap file but run out of patience waiting for my system monitor. Don't know how to follow swap/memory usage at command line. I will find out now. like because I have been unable to catch it with top or see if a continuous swap has been going on. If disk is thrashing, open up a terminal, and shutdoen evolution, set memory limits and startup evolution from the terminal. $ evolution --force-shutdown $ ulimits -v 50 $ evolution Will try. Haven't been able to get gterm working while window frozen. Will use xterm (C-A-Fx) next time. That always seems available. Try obtaining a bt of evolution from command line, this might help the developer. ( http://live.gnome.org/GettingTraces ) New learning curve. It is not a new problem. I have had it happen to me in FC5, FC6 and now F-7. This freezing is rare and seems random, but persistent. Have you filled a bugzilla for the same ? No. Was asking here first if others have the problem. On some things, like filing bugs, I am a novice. I wanted to be sure I have a bug and not just a case of stupidity. Is there any way I can capture what is happening. message log doesn't seem to reveal anything. ps: i am not a evolution developer. -- Regards Bill ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to subscribe to a shared folder?
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 19:30 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Did you try Folders-Subscriptions? Sorry if it's too obvious, but you
don't say.
Sorry, forgot to say that I did that, but it only shows the INBOX and
it's subfolders. If I log into the IMAP server using Horde webmail, I
can see two folders outside the INBOX, which also appear if I try to
subscribe to them from Thunderbird, but evolution is clueless about
them.
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Re: [Evolution] Persistent intermitent Compose widow freeze ??
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 01:26 +0530, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote:
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 15:22 -0400, William Case wrote:
Hi;
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If disk is thrashing, open up a terminal, and shutdoen evolution, set
memory limits and startup evolution from the terminal.
$ evolution --force-shutdown
$ ulimits -v 50
$ evolution
it's 'ulimit' not 'ulimits' and it will only last for that session (in
that xterm)
Is there any way I can capture what is happening. message log doesn't
seem to reveal anything.
strace ?
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[Evolution] Exchange Connector
Hey, I'm using Evolution 2.10.1 on FC7. I'm using the Exchange connector. I enter my OWA URL and receiving both email calendar events is working beautifully, nice work! I have one question, how do I send mail back? There is no Sending Mail option on an account's preferences that uses the Exchange connector as there is if you use something like POP. When I attempt to send mail with this connection I always get a failure that says I must be over quota, but I know I'm not. Is there some way in which we can just tell Exchange connector to send with an SMTP server? Or somehow get more info on what's its doing wrong? Thanks, -- - Eric ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
