Re: [Evolution] connect to echange 2007 Brutus server HOW-TO
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 15:58 +1100, L wrote: Hi, My system is Name: evolutionRelocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.24.5Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 2.fc10Build Date: Mon 01 Jun 2009 11:17:43 PM EST Install Date: Mon 20 Jul 2009 06:45:36 PM EST Build Host: x86-3.fedora.phx.redhat.com on fedora 10 X86_64. I can't find mapi for this evolution version. some suggest using brutus server. I can't find how to set up this? any help? thanks Y evolution-mapi was only workable for 2.26 and above. I recommend upgrading your distro to latest stable, I believe for Fedora its 11 currently. Brutus server, as far as I can recall, needs you to have a windows machine somewhere. It may be easier to ask your IT admin to allow IMAP connections to the exchange server. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 00:54 -0400, B. Joshua Rosen wrote: Evolution has been essentially unusable for almost a year. I'm still on Fedora 9 because it has Evolution 2.22 which is the last working release, they wemt to SQLite after that which completely broke the virtual folders. Are there any developers still working on Evolution? I can't understand how it could be so completely broken for so long unless it's been abandoned. First, please don't top-post. Secondly, I've been using evolution's latest versions and haven't had stability problems. It may be broken for you, but that doesn't indicate a general breakage for every user. This thread is going nowhere. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 00:54 -0400, B. Joshua Rosen wrote: Evolution has been essentially unusable for almost a year. I'm still on Fedora 9 because it has Evolution 2.22 which is the last working release, they wemt to SQLite after that which completely broke the virtual folders. Are there any developers still working on Evolution? I can't understand how it could be so completely broken for so long unless it's been abandoned. There vfolder issues unfortunately have not been handled well enough. We will be working on the same for 2.29.x - http://go-evolution.org/Evo3.0 and relevant fixes will be ported to gnome-2-28 branch . - Chenthill. On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 09:28 +, Philipp Kubina wrote: I am working with Evolution for a month now (Ubuntu 9.04, Evolution 2.26.1) and the instability is terrible (multiple crashes every day). Looking at the bug reports from other users I can see that I am not the only one having problems with evolution's stability. Honestly I can not understand how this can be considered a stable release. When is Evolutions stability going to be improved? (Of course I am filing bug reports to help debugging) Philipp ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] connect to echange 2007 Brutus server HOW-TO
Install Date: Mon 20 Jul 2009 06:45:36 PM EST Build Host: x86-3.fedora.phx.redhat.com on fedora 10 X86_64. I can't find mapi for this evolution version. some suggest using brutus server. I can't find how to set up this? any help? Brutus will not help you. Brutus allows you to call MAPI functions via IIOP [which honestly, I can't imagine many people would want to do that]. I doubt there is a Brutus connection for Evolution; Brutus itself needs to run on Windows to front-end an existing Exchange infrastructure. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
El mié, 07-10-2009 a las 09:28 +, Philipp Kubina escribió: I am working with Evolution for a month now (Ubuntu 9.04, Evolution 2.26.1) and the instability is terrible (multiple crashes every day). Looking at the bug reports from other users I can see that I am not the only one having problems with evolution's stability. Honestly I can not understand how this can be considered a stable release. When is Evolutions stability going to be improved? (Of course I am filing bug reports to help debugging) Philipp ___ I'm using Evolution 2.22 in Debian and is pretty stable. Never crash, always works. May be is Ubuntu and not Evolution problem. Regards Sylvia ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
I hope the vfolders fix is a priority, it's a complete show stopper for any user who has a large number of stored messages. When can we expect a fix? Josh On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 12:09 +0530, Chenthill wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 00:54 -0400, B. Joshua Rosen wrote: Evolution has been essentially unusable for almost a year. I'm still on Fedora 9 because it has Evolution 2.22 which is the last working release, they wemt to SQLite after that which completely broke the virtual folders. Are there any developers still working on Evolution? I can't understand how it could be so completely broken for so long unless it's been abandoned. There vfolder issues unfortunately have not been handled well enough. We will be working on the same for 2.29.x - http://go-evolution.org/Evo3.0 and relevant fixes will be ported to gnome-2-28 branch . - Chenthill. On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 09:28 +, Philipp Kubina wrote: I am working with Evolution for a month now (Ubuntu 9.04, Evolution 2.26.1) and the instability is terrible (multiple crashes every day). Looking at the bug reports from other users I can see that I am not the only one having problems with evolution's stability. Honestly I can not understand how this can be considered a stable release. When is Evolutions stability going to be improved? (Of course I am filing bug reports to help debugging) Philipp ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- B. Joshua Rosen, VP Polybus Systems Corp 23 Providence Rd Westford, MA 01886 Phone: (978) 692-4828 Cell: (978) 828-0944 FAX: (978) 692-7557 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
-Original Message- From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org [mailto:evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org]on Behalf Of B. Joshua Rosen Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:56 AM To: Chenthill Cc: evolution-list Subject: Re: [Evolution] stability I hope the vfolders fix is a priority, it's a complete show stopper for any user who has a large number of stored messages. When can we expect a fix? Josh On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 12:09 +0530, Chenthill wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 00:54 -0400, B. Joshua Rosen wrote: Evolution has been essentially unusable for almost a year. I'm still on Fedora 9 because it has Evolution 2.22 which is the last working release, they wemt to SQLite after that which completely broke the virtual folders. I think it is a problem with Ubuntu. I have only had stability problems with Ubuntu and Evolution (Crashes quite a few times a day). I had to switch over to Thunderbird because of the stability problems. Are there any developers still working on Evolution? I can't understand how it could be so completely broken for so long unless it's been abandoned. http://www.go-evolution.org/Evo2.26 - Shows the new plans I believe and shows that its still in development. There vfolder issues unfortunately have not been handled well enough. We will be working on the same for 2.29.x - http://go-evolution.org/Evo3.0 and relevant fixes will be ported to gnome-2-28 branch . - Chenthill. On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 09:28 +, Philipp Kubina wrote: I am working with Evolution for a month now (Ubuntu 9.04, Evolution 2.26.1) and the instability is terrible (multiple crashes every day). Looking at the bug reports from other users I can see that I am not the only one having problems with evolution's stability. Honestly I can not understand how this can be considered a stable release. When is Evolutions stability going to be improved? (Of course I am filing bug reports to help debugging) Philipp ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- B. Joshua Rosen, VP Polybus Systems Corp 23 Providence Rd Westford, MA 01886 Phone: (978) 692-4828 Cell: (978) 828-0944 FAX: (978) 692-7557 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list __ NOD32 4490 (20091008) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 07:00 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Obviously there is, the Bonobo-free branch was just trunked. I imagine [don't know] that such infrastructure work consumed a fair amount of resources. It did: a full year, off and on. Also, we've suffered a significant loss of manpower -- and with it, knowledge -- over the past year. So in general things are taking a little longer to fix as the remaining developers try to fill in the gaps. The state of virtual folders is a particularly sore spot. That said, the project is alive and well and in many ways healthier than ever. Matthew Barnes ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
Version 2.22 crashes once a day on Fedora 9, it's not just an Ubuntu problem. On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 10:00 -0400, Derek McDaniel wrote: -Original Message- From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org [mailto:evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org]on Behalf Of B. Joshua Rosen Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:56 AM To: Chenthill Cc: evolution-list Subject: Re: [Evolution] stability I hope the vfolders fix is a priority, it's a complete show stopper for any user who has a large number of stored messages. When can we expect a fix? Josh On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 12:09 +0530, Chenthill wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 00:54 -0400, B. Joshua Rosen wrote: Evolution has been essentially unusable for almost a year. I'm still on Fedora 9 because it has Evolution 2.22 which is the last working release, they wemt to SQLite after that which completely broke the virtual folders. I think it is a problem with Ubuntu. I have only had stability problems with Ubuntu and Evolution (Crashes quite a few times a day). I had to switch over to Thunderbird because of the stability problems. Are there any developers still working on Evolution? I can't understand how it could be so completely broken for so long unless it's been abandoned. http://www.go-evolution.org/Evo2.26 - Shows the new plans I believe and shows that its still in development. There vfolder issues unfortunately have not been handled well enough. We will be working on the same for 2.29.x - http://go-evolution.org/Evo3.0 and relevant fixes will be ported to gnome-2-28 branch . - Chenthill. On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 09:28 +, Philipp Kubina wrote: I am working with Evolution for a month now (Ubuntu 9.04, Evolution 2.26.1) and the instability is terrible (multiple crashes every day). Looking at the bug reports from other users I can see that I am not the only one having problems with evolution's stability. Honestly I can not understand how this can be considered a stable release. When is Evolutions stability going to be improved? (Of course I am filing bug reports to help debugging) Philipp ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- B. Joshua Rosen, VP Polybus Systems Corp 23 Providence Rd Westford, MA 01886 Phone: (978) 692-4828 Cell: (978) 828-0944 FAX: (978) 692-7557 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list __ NOD32 4490 (20091008) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- B. Joshua Rosen, VP Polybus Systems Corp 23 Providence Rd Westford, MA 01886 Phone: (978) 692-4828 Cell: (978) 828-0944 FAX: (978) 692-7557 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
Bug 550414 has been a problem since 2.24; and is still a problem in 2.27. It is an absolute show stopper, and it has caused me to move off of Evolution. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550414 I apologize for the top post. Most of the world top posts; and I could not immediate find the section of my email client to reconfigure it for this specific email. - Dave Philipp Kubina wrote: I am working with Evolution for a month now (Ubuntu 9.04, Evolution 2.26.1) and the instability is terrible (multiple crashes every day). Looking at the bug reports from other users I can see that I am not the only one having problems with evolution's stability. Honestly I can not understand how this can be considered a stable release. When is Evolutions stability going to be improved? (Of course I am filing bug reports to help debugging) Philipp ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 07:15 -0700, Dave Jewett wrote: I apologize for the top post. Most of the world top posts; and I could not immediate find the section of my email client to reconfigure it for this specific email. The page down or arrow down button should move your cursor to the bottom of the email. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
Not sure why you state that this is not allowed -- See remainder of post sent via Tbird at bottom. Dave Jewett wrote: Thanks for your feedback. I am using Thunderbird. It has a method to configure for either top or bottom post on replies. But the placement of the configuration option is not obvious - and to find the configuration option for this one email was way more work than seemed necessary. I can even post in the middle of the text. No configuration option changes required. Thunderbird's reply feature does not allow a bottom post when configured for top post; nor does it allow a top post when configured for bottom post. Moving the cursor to the bottom will not work on a Thunderbird reply. Of course it will -- I just did it. - Dave Response written in thunderbird. Cursor movement is allowed throughout the email. reid ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oh please! Piss off! The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. Yikes! Chuck... bg wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 07:15, Dave Jewett wrote: I apologize for the top post. Most of the world top posts; bg: Which simply demonstrates that the world is mostly made up of the clueless and care-less. dave: and I could not immediate find the section of my email client to reconfigure it for this specific email. Reconfigure it??? What email client are you using that would require reconfiguring in order to arrange original and reply in the correct chronological sequence? I have used five or six different email clients over the past nearly thirty years, and I cannot recall a single one that would require reconfiguration. The way most emailers default in the reply edit mode is to position your cursor at the top of the original. The reason this is done is apparently, unaccountably, non-obvious to millions of the NetNewbies of the past several years. The reason it positions that way is to encourage the user to drill down through the original post, snipping out those portions not directly relevant to their intended reply, and not so incidentally reinforcing their knowledge of what the original was saying; then having reached the bottom of the original, and with any luck at all having reduced it, if it was a long one, by say 80%, commence their reply. Top posting may be marginally acceptable for a single one-on-one exchange in a business environment; --- Okay - Mario's on Fourth at 12:45! Wanna have lunch tomorrow --- even though it reads illogically in that reverse chronology. Fine. But top-posting is an irritant on any form of e-list or discussion group where there are multi-message threads. Yeah, I know, those religious wars again. But I will not acquiesce to sloppy, hard-to-read practices just because millions of clueless newbies don't know how to work their reply edit function as it was intended, and worse, don't much care either way. Brewster - -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3944 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkrOA6AACgkQvo/pZKjjE/PsIwCfaMlVKhZ6Qu7bodOpk3vp517F tMcAn3b8lOFQ4w7RkY1wTxCrhw0wTJdS =FRX1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:22 -0600, Charles J Killian wrote: Oh please! Piss off! The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. Yikes! Chuck... yellow pads are not acceptable, only white or off-white will be considered valid forms of communication. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 11:28 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:22 -0600, Charles J Killian wrote: Oh please! Piss off! The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. Yikes! Chuck... yellow pads are not acceptable, only white or off-white will be considered valid forms of communication. And they much be narrow-ruled, none of that silly wide-ruled stuff. I need those extra lines per page. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Reid Thompson wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:22 -0600, Charles J Killian wrote: The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. Yikes! yellow pads are not acceptable, only white or off-white will be considered valid forms of communication. evolution's yellow-pad-connector crashes too frequently. That problem is already fixed in evolution 2.33 which hasn't been released, but 2.33 only allows top posting or back posting (writing on the back of the yellow pad). ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
yellow pads are not acceptable, only white or off-white will be considered valid forms of communication. evolution's yellow-pad-connector crashes too frequently. Oh, Oh Tomboy integration! Sweet. I'm not worried, it will never crash for me. For whatever reason [seriously] my systems always seem much more stable than other peoples. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/killian
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 08:22, Charles J Killian wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oh please! Piss off! The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. Yikes! Chuck... bg: I guess that means you fall into the care-less category. Up yours. There are multiple levels of ease of readability in emails, especially on discussion lists. *You* may be so thick as to have not noticed, but some of the rest of us see it as making a difference. Top-posting lacks logic and reflects intellectual laziness. We don't live out our lives in reverse chronological order - why would we want to read an email thread that way? The worst of it is, doing it right is actually very little additional effort, if only all of the clueless and care-less would ever actually try it, and bother to learn a little something about how their email software works. Brewster -- *** Embrace a sharing community of sustainable low-carbon justice diversity *** W. Brewster Gillett b...@fdi.usPortland, OR USA *** Simply because you don't like to hear it, that doesn't make it untrue. *** ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/williams
Brewster Gillett: The way most emailers default in the reply edit mode is to position your cursor at the top of the original. The reason this is done is apparently, unaccountably, non-obvious to millions of the NetNewbies of the past several years. The reason it positions that way is to encourage the user to drill down through the original post, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: While all this is true, I agree completely, it is utterly pointless to point it out. The vast vast majority of people DO NOT CARE about netiquette (or the convenience of subsequent readers). bg: How very right you are. It's pleasant to read that there are others who fully understand. williams: Thus you are wasting bandwidth and every other readers time. Hashing these things with people WHO DO NOT CARE is pointless. bg: I plead guilty, Adam - 99% of the time I just let it pass. But this was something new - when someone informed us that they had to reconfigure their emailer in order to alternate between top and bottom posting. I confess, that pushed me over the edge :-) I'll try not to do it again for a while.. williams: I deal with top-posters primarily just by ignoring their questions [if they can't respect me I shouldn't bother with them]. That is the method I suggest. bg: That's a worthy suggestion, Adam, and I pretty much agree with you. I will observe that I have converted at least three or four formerly clueless-newbie top-posters through the means of sitting them down at a computer and demonstrating how it is intended to be done. Seeing that light bulb go on over their heads was immensely satisfying, as you might imagine :-) Brewster -- *** Embrace a sharing community of sustainable low-carbon diversity *** W. Brewster Gillett b...@fdi.usPortland, OR USA *** Simply because you don't like to hear it, that doesn't make it untrue. *** ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/Jewett
Hi Charles, On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:22 -0600, Charles J Killian wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oh please! Piss off! The day that how one formats a response to an email is some measure of the quality of the individual writing it and the value of that response is the day I go back to a yellow pad and pencil. On technical mailing-lists, between someone who takes care of quoting correctly and follows the netiquette, and someone who just dumps the entire thread with an added top-post blurb, my choice of who will be the next person I'll help is quickly done. Xav ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, bg wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 08:12, Ben May wrote: Likewise. I can't believe there are so many people who think you have to reconfigure an email program in order to move the cursor anywhere you want :-) In all seriousness though, in the last year or so, evolution won't let me position the cursor in the middle of a reply and hit return without making it look like my inserted text is part of the original message... ie, it adds a at the beginning of each line so I can't interleave my response without it looking like the original poster was answering their own questions. How do I fix that? I bet I have to reconfigure evolution. ;) This only happens with certain emails... these emails get a little dotted box around the text of the original message whenever I click anywhere in the message. Any ideas? thanks, David ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability
In all seriousness though, in the last year or so, evolution won't let me position the cursor in the middle of a reply and hit return without making it look like my inserted text is part of the original message... ie, it adds a at the beginning of each line so I can't interleave my response without it looking like the original poster was answering their own questions. How do I fix that? I bet I have to reconfigure evolution. ;) This only happens with certain emails... these emails get a little dotted box around the text of the original message whenever I click anywhere in the message. Any ideas? Yes, it's because the email you are replying to is in HTML and the Evo composer is having problems trying to work out where in the complexity of the crap html that it needs to put your text. It's usually something to do with tables and nested div sections. Yes, this even applies if you are replying in plain text - the composer is still aware of the HTML in the original message. As a rule of thumb - if there is a dotted box around the text, then Evo can't put your reply into the middle of it. If you can find a junction between two dotted boxes, then often you can put a reply in correctly. I believe there is new composer in the pipeline for Evo - but I don't know if it will be any better at dealing with HTML. The answer is, of course for no one to use HTML in emails - but then people wouldn't be able to have their cutesy little pictures and oh so clever formatting. P. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Replies to text + html e-mail [Was: stability]
I believe there is new composer in the pipeline for Evo - but I don't know if it will be any better at dealing with HTML. The answer is, of course for no one to use HTML in emails - but then people wouldn't be able to have their cutesy little pictures and oh so clever formatting. Most people don't even use formatting, they just send the message as multi-part because the client they are using defaults to that [Why?! Why?!]. But these days @gmail.com is the worst offender - try talking to GMail users. Google does it that way so it must be right; their answer is inevitably Why don't you just use GMail?. In the end I'm convinced Google will be the worst thing to ever happen to Internet standards. Do no evil - bull crap! ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Need help with Caldav or WebDav support for group calendars
Hell List, I have tried to setup a Webdav group calendar and use it with Apache - fails. I also tried to setup/create a Caldav calendar on the same server - not using Apache - fails. Does anyone have a setup for a group calendar using Apache or other application that evolution can R/W to and share with other mail clients e.g. Thunderbird, etc. Steven -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/DavidL
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 10:02 -0700, bg wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:48, David L wrote: This only happens with certain emails... these emails get a little dotted box around the text of the original message whenever I click anywhere in the message. Any ideas? bg: I wish I knew an answer to that, but I doubt there is one. As near as I can tell, the dotted-line box is an artifact of the sender, who has chosen to format their message in other than plain old unvarnished ASCII text, apparently in a desire to make their emails prettier, or perhaps just from general cluelessness. The latter category might benefit from some remediation. The former should just be disemboweled and their messy corpses left in the ditch as a caution to others. Which would include any and all users of IncrediMail, if it's still around :-) Brewster I've found that for multi-part messages, if instead of clicking 'Reply' (or 'Reply to all'), you select the text of the message and then click the appropriate button, it replies properly to the text, meaning no dotted box and no problems formatting. Try it out. Of course, all formatting is lost (even paragraphing), but if they didn't send you a well-formatted email, why not return the favour. Works with forwarding too. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/DavidL
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:48, David L wrote: This only happens with certain emails... these emails get a little dotted box around the text of the original message whenever I click anywhere in the message. Any ideas? bg: I wish I knew an answer to that, but I doubt there is one. As near as I can tell, the dotted-line box is an artifact of the sender, who has chosen to format their message in other than plain old unvarnished ASCII text, apparently in a desire to make their emails prettier, or perhaps just from general cluelessness. The latter category might benefit from some remediation. The former should just be disemboweled and their messy corpses left in the ditch as a caution to others. Which would include any and all users of IncrediMail, if it's still around :-) Brewster Ng Oon-Ee wrote: I've found that for multi-part messages, if instead of clicking 'Reply' (or 'Reply to all'), you select the text of the message and then click the appropriate button, it replies properly to the text, meaning no dotted box and no problems formatting. Try it out. bg: I did, just now, and it didn't fly. Maybe my version of Evo is too ancient (a distinct possibility) or maybe I'm not understanding the instructions. I highlighted the entire block in the original message as received, and assumed that by the appropriate button you meant REPLY. Smacking that with the original selected, though it did shift me, as expected, into REPLY EDIT mode, did *not* banish the dotted line box around the text, nor any of the formatting as near as I could determine. Brewster -- *** Embrace a sharing community of sustainable low-carbon diversity *** W. Brewster Gillett b...@fdi.usPortland, OR USA *** Simply because you don't like to hear it, that doesn't make it untrue. *** ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Need help with Caldav or WebDav support for group calendars
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 03:48:55PM -0400, Steven Sprague wrote: I have tried to setup a Webdav group calendar and use it with Apache - fails. I also tried to setup/create a Caldav calendar on the same server - not using Apache - fails. Does anyone have a setup for a group calendar using Apache or other application that evolution can R/W to and share with other mail clients e.g. Thunderbird, etc. Have you tried davical ? rscds.sourceforge.net I've used it with evo, sunbird and an iPhone successfully. The documentation's pretty good for setting it up, and I don't remember it being overly painful, other than a dependency on postgresql.. John A. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
