[Evolution] backup a local folder emptying it (2.24.5)
Hello, With the change to the new year I wanted to make a copy of one of my big local folders and clear it (i.e. remove all mails there); I did (with Evo shutted down): $ cd ~/.evolution/mail/local $ ls -C1 backupIncoming* backupIncoming backupIncoming.cmeta backupIncoming.ibex.index backupIncoming.ibex.index.data $ cp -p backupIncoming* ~/2009/ $ rm backupIncoming.* $ cp /dev/null backupIncoming $ ls -l backupIncoming* -rw--- 1 guru wheel 0 4 ene 09:15 backupIncoming now I started Evo and was expecting that the folder 'backupIncoming' was empty and the backupIncoming.* files would be recreated by Evo (they have been); but: Evo still has the Subjects of the purged mails and the total number; of course clicking on one of the Subjects give an error that the mail number XYZ could not be retrieved. What is wrong in my process? Where the Subjects are stored outside of backupIncoming.* files? Or what other way exists? I want to have the file ~/.evolution/mail/local/backupIncoming copied to a safe place (to read it later with 'mutt') and have the ~400 MByte folder backupIncoming empty; Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Suggestion for Evolution software
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 02:03 -0200, Chapinha 2008 wrote: 1) the possibility to read all the messages of a specific contact (sent and received), that is possible to see with a tab added when you open the respective contact This is complete different architecture. Outlook let you see the messages/appointements/tasks for a given contact, link external documents in its calendar and you can keep a journal of your activity. Outlook is bloated and heavy. Evolution is not Outlook. You can use the advance search function in Evolution to achieve the same result. 2) the possibility to print several messages, when they are selected in Evolution, this is useful because man cannot archive old messages in PDF, for example. A quick search on Goolge would answer your question, or see [1] for a pointer bye nomnex [1] http://www.stchman.com/export_evolution.html ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Question on adding a CALDAV calendar
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 15:44 +, Markie wrote: There's a checkbox on the plugin UI to choose SSL or not, that's how it knows. Xav Hi, Xav has right, the Use SSL checkbox in calendar preferences is used to know whether it should use http:// or https://. Note that you can have configured one proxy for http:// and another for https://, but I've no idea whether it's the case for you. Also, not using SSL means, for example, you password to a server is shown in plaintext over the network. Might or might not be a problem for you. Bye, Milan ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save as.../export a thread to disc?
On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 12:56 +0100, Kurt Hansen wrote: I wish to save some threads from my news-account. When using the Save-option in the File-menu, there is no way to specify the format; it's saves as plain text and with the complete header information for each message. Hi, it's not only a plain-text format, it's an mbox format, which most of the mail clients can import or open directly. Try to use: Folder-Select Message Thread and then File-Save As. Is'nt it possible to save in e.g. HTML format with correct indention of the replies in the thread or just anything else than plain text with headers? I'm not aware of anything, the nearest I would think of is a File-Print, but it's probably not what you want. I'm new to Evolution (and Linux). Is there a completely other way to make an archive with valuable information from usenet postings? No idea here. Bye, Milan ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] backup a local folder emptying it (2.24.5)
El día Monday, January 04, 2010 a las 09:19:40AM +, Pete Biggs escribió: On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 09:23 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, With the change to the new year I wanted to make a copy of one of my big local folders and clear it (i.e. remove all mails there); I did (with Evo shutted down): Did you kill all the Evo processes with 'evolution --force-shutdown' ? I did two attempts; in the first I've missed to kill the background processes; then I killed all, restored all the files, restarted Evo (the folder was fine again); killed all Evo, moved away the folder and restarted Evo, but the Index was still there; matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] backup a local folder emptying it (2.24.5)
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 09:23 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: What is wrong in my process? Where the Subjects are stored outside of backupIncoming.* files? Hi, it's stored in folder's summary, I guess ~/.evolution/mail/local/folders.db for you. Was there any reason to play with internal evolution files instead of doing the same through the Evolution's user interface? Like: a) create a new folder b) dragdrop messages from one to the other c) delete old message from old folder d) expunge old folder That might do pretty the same what you were trying to do, and updating internal files properly. I guess there are not many options now: a) close evolution; evolution --force-shutdown b) delete folders.db file c) run evolution (it'll recreate folders.db file). If you use labels, tags, flags or anything on your messages under On This Computer, then they will be lost by this. Alternatively, you can just drop that one table from folders.db by some sqlite3 command. Bye, Milan ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] backup a local folder emptying it (2.24.5)
El día Monday, January 04, 2010 a las 10:50:59AM +0100, Milan Crha escribió: On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 09:23 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: What is wrong in my process? Where the Subjects are stored outside of backupIncoming.* files? Hi, it's stored in folder's summary, I guess ~/.evolution/mail/local/folders.db for you. Was there any reason to play with internal evolution files instead of doing the same through the Evolution's user interface? yes there was a reason ... Like: a) create a new folder b) dragdrop messages from one to the other ... because dragdrop messages is a nice idea, but not if we are talking about some thousand messages :-) the folder 'backupIncoming' contains a backup of any mail I have received in 2009 (copied by some filter to this folder because the central Exchange server will trash all deleted mails after 24h); c) delete old message from old folder d) expunge old folder That might do pretty the same what you were trying to do, and updating internal files properly. I guess there are not many options now: at the moment I have the folder I wanted empty restored from the backup place and all is fine (like it was before I started the procedure this morning); a) close evolution; evolution --force-shutdown b) delete folders.db file c) run evolution (it'll recreate folders.db file). will try this later; If you use labels, tags, flags or anything on your messages under On This Computer, then they will be lost by this. Alternatively, you can just drop that one table from folders.db by some sqlite3 command. do you mean: sqlite3 folders.db vacuum;? or can this be done affecting only the one folder 'backupIncoming'? Thanks for your feedback matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] backup a local folder emptying it (2.24.5)
Hi, On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 11:14 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, January 04, 2010 a las 10:50:59AM +0100, Milan Crha escribió: ... because dragdrop messages is a nice idea, but not if we are talking about some thousand messages :-) Ah, right, it takes its time. do you mean: sqlite3 folders.db vacuum;? or can this be done affecting only the one folder 'backupIncoming'? I meant something like DROP TABLE backupIncoming;, but there are about two or three of the similar name, which should be better to drop as well. After you drop the table, and start Evolution those will be recreated automatically. Bye, Milan ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] backup a local folder emptying it (2.24.5)
El día Monday, January 04, 2010 a las 11:23:37AM +0100, Milan Crha escribió: do you mean: sqlite3 folders.db vacuum;? or can this be done affecting only the one folder 'backupIncoming'? I meant something like DROP TABLE backupIncoming;, but there are about two or three of the similar name, which should be better to drop as well. After you drop the table, and start Evolution those will be recreated automatically. Hi Milan, I've made a copy of 'folders.db' to /tmp and sqlite3 shows: $ sqlite3 /tmp/folders.db sqlite .tables back backupIncoming i.e. there is no other table name which matches the string 'back' and also a full match does not show any other names for each folder; will try to drop only that table... Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] HELP, please.
I don't understand your way to explain, that's why I didn't answer your questions. I guess that anybody else knows or understands the mail. I don' t they're bad persons who doesn't want yo answer you. Regards and Take it easy! Sylvia (from south) El dom, 03-01-2010 a las 15:32 -0800, Brewster Gillett escribió: About three weeks ago I posted the query below to this list. So far there has been zero response. Let's ride the loop: * This has apparently never cropped up in anyone else's installation * Therefore it must be presumed to be a feature, not a bug * If so, then there should be an option switch for it I am not prepared to believe that this artifact could be presenting to other users and not be noticed. So where does that leave us? Does anyone have any ideas? My previous (4-year-old) version 1-Something Evo didn't pull this crap on me. Thank you, Brewster 2.28.1 under Ubuntu 9.10 --- On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:20 -0800, Brewster Gillett wrote: I have a Contacts question. how is it possible that: (1) in my Contacts editing screens, the Contacts are all listed by their sort by fields (generally last name first, the default) but when I am composing an email, smack TO:, and get the Contacts List popup, over there it lists them by the primary name in the Contact record (generally first name first). (2) There are contacts that appear in the latter list but do not show up in the former one. Which means they cannot be edited. Neither of these manifestations make a particle of sense - they do not represent any sort of feature that anyone in their right mind would ever have requested - yet nobody else seems to be experiencing these kinds of problems, which of course implies that it may be an option switch. I have read through some 1200 Evo FAQs and have seen no mention of this. Does anyone have any ideas? Ubuntu 9.10 / Evo 2.28.1 Brewster signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] HELP, please.
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 15:32 -0800, Brewster Gillett wrote: Does anyone have any ideas? (1) in my Contacts editing screens, the Contacts are all listed by their sort by fields (generally last name first, the default) but when I am composing an email, smack TO:, and get the Contacts List popup, over there it lists them by the primary name in the Contact record (generally first name first). I see the same from head approx 2 weeks ago (will rebuild from head today). I've never found it to be an issue though. I tend to use the search box and/or autocomplete to find addresses that I need. (2) There are contacts that appear in the latter list but do not show up in the former one. Which means they cannot be edited. I don't know whether this issue exists for me or not. I've not noticed it, but that's not to say that it doesn't exist for me. Are the contacts being merged from a different 'list'? reid ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save as.../export a thread to disc?
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 10:36 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: your easiest solution is probably ... I'm not aware of anything, the nearest I would think of is a File-Print, but it's probably not what you want. and select print to file, type pdf ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save as.../export a thread to disc?
man, 04 01 2010 kl. 10:36 +0100, skrev Milan Crha: On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 12:56 +0100, Kurt Hansen wrote: I wish to save some threads from my news-account. When using the Save-option in the File-menu, there is no way to specify the format; it's saves as plain text and with the complete header information for each message. it's not only a plain-text format, it's an mbox format, which most of the mail clients can import or open directly. Try to use: Folder-Select Message Thread and then File-Save As. The complete thread is saved in plain text and can be opened/edited with Gedit. The problem is, that all the messages headers (up to 52 lines) is included. Not very readable and too much work to do to clean up the text file. Is'nt it possible to save in e.g. HTML format with correct indention of the replies in the thread or just anything else than plain text with headers? I'm not aware of anything, the nearest I would think of is a File-Print, but it's probably not what you want. The 'Print' command is not available when the complete thread is selected (this is also a reply to Reid). ... but thanks for trying ;-) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] HELP/new explanation for Sylvia
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 10:29 -0200, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: I don't understand your way to explain, that's why I didn't answer your questions. bg: Fair enough. I'll try to explain a different way. There is a master record for each Contact in the Address Book. Within that record are several individual fields, two of which deal with the name of the Contact. The first one is called Full Name, and carries the actual name of the contact. The second name field is called File Under, and defaults to last name first. This second field constitutes the user's instructions as to how they wish their Address Book to be sorted. There are also two places in Evolution where the list of Contacts can be seen. The first one is in the main Contacts database, or Address Book, which is where Contacts are selected to be edited. The second place the Address Book can be displayed is when you are in EDIT (email composing) mode, and you click on the TO: field, whereupon a listing of your Address Book pops up in a small window. The primary difficulty I am experiencing is that Evo is sorting two different ways, depending upon where the Address Book is viewed. When I am in the main Contacts (Contact adding and editing) area, the Contact entries are sorted as they have been requested to be sorted - last name first. But when I access the second instance, the pop-up that responds to the TO: in the EDIT (email composing) mode, that window is ignoring the instruction, and displaying the Contacts sorted on Full Name, rather than on the File Under field. The reason I am finding the lack of responses to this query so puzzling is very simple: it seems that either nobody else has experienced this, or that they have, and have ignored it. Does it not seem quite unlikely that, if this is a bug in 2.28.1, nobody else would have noticed it? Is it possible that people would actually put up with having their Contacts incorrectly sorted every time they need to retrieve one when composing an email? Then as a related part of this, there are Contacts which appear in the latter list but never show up in the main Contacts editing list. That is also unacceptable; if for no other reason than those Contacts which do not show on the main Contacts editing screen are therefore no available for editing. I really have to believe these conditions are both bugs, but I have invested a lot of time in searching forum posts and bug lists, and have yet to find either one. On the other hand , if they *are* bugs, why is it that nobody else has noticed them? I don't like mysteries. If I want mystery, I'll read Agatha Christie. I don't need it in my email programs :-) Brewster -- *** Embrace a sharing community of sustainable justice low-carbon diversity *** W. Brewster Gillett b...@fdi.usPortland, OR USA *** Simply because you don't like to hear it, that doesn't make it untrue. *** ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] HELP, please/reid
On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 15:32 -0800, Brewster Gillett wrote: Does anyone have any ideas? (1) in my Contacts editing screens, the Contacts are all listed by their sort by fields (generally last name first, the default) but when I am composing an email, smack TO:, and get the Contacts List popup, over there it lists them by the primary name in the Contact record (generally first name first). Reid Thompson wrote: I see the same from head approx 2 weeks ago (will rebuild from head today). I've never found it to be an issue though. I tend to use the search box and/or autocomplete to find addresses that I need. I find autocomplete, in any program, to be less than optimal, so to me it's easier to hit the TO: and scroll down. I thought the search function available in compose mode only searched the body of the message? Are you saying it can be set to search the Address Book? Brewster wrote earlier: (2) There are contacts that appear in the latter list but do not show up in the former one. Which means they cannot be edited. Reid Thompson wrote: I don't know whether this issue exists for me or not. I've not noticed it, but that's not to say that it doesn't exist for me. Are the contacts being merged from a different 'list'? reid Absolutely not - they all came into 2.28.1 as a bunch from my earlier version of Evo. I am really finding all of this very puzzling, which is highly uncomfortable; I'm not generally this puzzled over something which should be fairly simple :-) Brewster 2.28.1 under Ubuntu 9.10 -- *** Embrace a sharing community of sustainable justice low-carbon diversity *** W. Brewster Gillett b...@fdi.usPortland, OR USA *** Simply because you don't like to hear it, that doesn't make it untrue. *** ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] HELP, please/reid
Brewster Gillett wrote: Reid Thompson wrote: I see the same from head approx 2 weeks ago (will rebuild from head today). I've never found it to be an issue though. I tend to use the search box and/or autocomplete to find addresses that I need. I find autocomplete, in any program, to be less than optimal, so to me it's easier to hit the TO: and scroll down. I thought the search function available in compose mode only searched the body of the message? Are you saying it can be set to search the Address Book? no... the To address entry field will autocomplete addresses ( not sure if this is default or requires some checkbox to be ticked somewhere ).. I'm currently at home so don't have easy access to my evo. I can generally type 3 characters of an address in the To entry field and allow autocomplete to do the rest, hit enter, type 3 chars of the next address that I want, let autocomplete do the rest, repeat In the address book itself, when i use it, i tend to do a similar thing... type in 3 chars in the search field and then dbl click the one i want.. Brewster wrote earlier: (2) There are contacts that appear in the latter list but do not show up in the former one. Which means they cannot be edited. Reid Thompson wrote: I don't know whether this issue exists for me or not. I've not noticed it, but that's not to say that it doesn't exist for me. Are the contacts being merged from a different 'list'? reid Absolutely not - they all came into 2.28.1 as a bunch from my earlier version of Evo. I am really finding all of this very puzzling, which is highly uncomfortable; I'm not generally this puzzled over something which should be fairly simple :-) Brewster 2.28.1 under Ubuntu 9.10 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] HELP/new explanation for Sylvia
But when I access the second instance, the pop-up that responds to the TO: in the EDIT (email composing) mode, that window is ignoring the instruction, and displaying the Contacts sorted on Full Name, rather than on the File Under field. I observe the same behaviour in Evo 2.26.1; if it's still happening in 2.28, then suggest logging it as a new item in bugzilla. The reason I am finding the lack of responses to this query so puzzling is very simple: it seems that either nobody else has experienced this, or that they have, and have ignored it. I think most people use auto-complete on a partially typed name or email address, rather than clicking the To button, which is probably the primary explanation for people's quietness. Is it possible that people would actually put up with having their Contacts incorrectly sorted every time they need to retrieve one when composing an email? In general, I suspect the File under field is not being used as consistently throughout Evo as it could be. For example, in the contact editor dialog, I think File under should be used consistently as the name of the dialog box, which is logged as: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=575312 (obviously that's a very low-priority bug, but I think it's symptomatic that there are a few remaining places in Evo's UI where full name is used when file under should be used instead as the display name and/or sort order). -- All the best, Nick. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] End Bulleted List by pressing Enter twice?
In OpenOffice and in Thunderbird I can end a bulleted list and return to 'paragraph' form just by hitting the Enter key twice. This makes a lot of sense and I have seen this same behavior even in Microsoft applications. Evolution doesn't seem to support this. If I have a bulleted list in Evolution and I hit enter a couple of times it just gives me two bulleted lines with no text. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/End-Bulleted-List-by-pressing-Enter-twice--tp27022831p27022831.html Sent from the Gnome Evolution - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
