Re: [Evolution] Various strange actions by Evolution

2011-07-05 Thread David A Vavra
 On fedora, there also exists chroot to create a separate environment,
 e.g. a fedora 14 system with gnome 2 and evolution 2.32 in it. So you
 don't have to switch to different computers/systems.

Thanks again, Thomas

I was aware of the chroot approach but had forgotten about it. I'll give it
a try later this week. The F13 box is working fine but I do want to add the
laptop at some point. The worry is the eventual lack of fixes/updates for
Evo 2.x. Perhaps not so eventual, eh? 

DAV




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Re: [Evolution] Various strange actions by Evolution

2011-07-05 Thread David A Vavra
 Another option might be 'BlueBubble' ...
 he's only going to maintain it until his remaining issues with 
 gnome 3 get worked out.

Certainly something to look at, Arthur.

It's not that I'm so in love with G2 per se but the desktop was most useful -- 
more than G3, IMO. It would have been better if the new presentation had been a 
fork built on top of the manager with a path back to G2 if it's wreaking havoc 
in the apps and their development but then I'm just a bystander not all that 
familiar with the innards.

DAV



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[Evolution] Preview vertical layout

2011-07-05 Thread Jerm
Hi there.

I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 and thought I'd give Evolution a try.
I'm mostly happy except for a things here and there which, no doubt,
will eventually push me to another application.  For example, I have a
wide screen and have set up my preview layout to be vertical instead of
the default horizontal.

However, Evolution creates a narrow preview pane and a very very wide
messages pane which, obviously, is pointless.  So I drag the divider to
the left, making the preview pane wider.

Evolution forgets about this when I re-start it and defaults the preview
pane to a super narrow one.  Is there a way to fix this?
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Re: [Evolution] Various strange actions by Evolution

2011-07-05 Thread David A Vavra
 Note that using Evo does not imply using all of Gnome, just some
libraries. 

Indeed. I'm just rebelling against the extra work ;) Something to do later
in the week. Life never gets dull.

Thanks,
DAV



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Re: [Evolution] Preview vertical layout

2011-07-05 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 05:49 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 09:30 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
   I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 and thought I'd give Evolution a
   try.  I'm mostly happy except for a things here and there which, no
   doubt, will eventually push me to another application.  For example, I
   have a wide screen and have set up my preview layout to be vertical
   instead of the default horizontal
   However, Evolution creates a narrow preview pane and a very very wide
   messages pane which, obviously, is pointless.  So I drag the divider
   to the left, making the preview pane wider.
   Evolution forgets about this when I re-start it and defaults the
   preview pane to a super narrow one.  Is there a way to fix this? 
  Without further info it's impossible to say - 
 
 Well, I can say: works-for-me.  Evolution remembers the vertical mode
 arrangement of the view between quite and restart.

Yes it works for me as well.  But it depends on what the OP is using.
The value is stored in Gconf to maintain state and held in the
key /apps/evolution/mail/display/hpaned_size - if the OP is using evo
on, say, kde and gconf isn't working, then value won't be stored.

You can see what's happening by running the command 

  gconftool-2 -g /apps/evolution/mail/display/hpaned_size

to give you the value of that key.  Changing the size of the preview
pane should result in that value changing.

P.

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[Evolution] Conversion failure, Datastructure mess, Crashes

2011-07-05 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
I have just upgraded from Fedora-13 to Fedora-15, which uses a maildir
format rather than the mbox format previously used.  Evolution crashed
in the conversion process, leaving me in a mixed state with a few of the
maildir folders, which are (I think) in 
~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/cur
and most of the remaining data structure in mbox form in various files in
~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local_mbox

Since I've been using evolution about 4 days since the upgrade, some of
my messages are in one format, and some in the other, and some in both. 

Also, Evolution now crashes whenever it has to file a message I have
sent in a folder other than Sent, probably because there is no folder
available of the right kind.

Any advice on how to straighten out this mess would be very welcome.

jon


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Re: [Evolution] Conversion failure, Datastructure mess, Crashes

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 08:58 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 I have just upgraded from Fedora-13 to Fedora-15, which uses a maildir
 format rather than the mbox format previously used.

Yet again: telling people the version of the OS is not helpful. You need
to mention the version of Evolution. Since I also use Fedora, I happen
to know that it's 3.0.x, but not everyone on the list will know that.

 Evolution crashed
 in the conversion process, leaving me in a mixed state with a few of the
 maildir folders, which are (I think) in 
 ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/cur
 and most of the remaining data structure in mbox form in various files in
 ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local_mbox

Did it say anything when it crashed? Is there anything
in /var/log/messages? Did abrt intervene (since this is Fedora)?

 Since I've been using evolution about 4 days since the upgrade, some of
 my messages are in one format, and some in the other, and some in both. 
 
 Also, Evolution now crashes whenever it has to file a message I have
 sent in a folder other than Sent, probably because there is no folder
 available of the right kind.

A bug in the version of Evo 3 distributed with Fedora 15 (now corrected
in updates) means you have to explicitly select your Sent, Drafts etc.
folders the first time. However the symptom is not a crash but an error
message. Which is it?

You can import mbox files into Evo, so that might be a way of unifying
your mailboxes.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Conversion failure, Datastructure mess, Crashes

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 10:29 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
[...]
 Do you know the version of the buggy system, the version of the
 corrected one? (8-).

No, but if you already ran Evo it doesn't matter as it won't try to
convert again. Just go to the account info under Preferences, select
Defaults and point to the Sent and Draft folders. That should be enough.

  You can import mbox files into Evo, so that might be a way of unifying
  your mailboxes.
 
 How can I avoid duplicate instances of the same message?

There's supposed to be a Detect Duplicates plugin somewhere, though it
doesn't seem to be in the default Fedora install.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Preview vertical layout

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 07:54 +0200, Jerm wrote:
 Hi there.
 
 I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 and thought I'd give Evolution a try.
[...]

This is not useful information except for those who know about Ubuntu
version numbers. The members of this list use all kinds of Linux
distros, Fedora, Mandriva, Debian, ... and of course Ubuntu. You need to
give *Evolution* version. See under Help-About Evolution.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Preview vertical layout

2011-07-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, July 05, 2011 a las 03:17:26PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan 
escribió:

 On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 07:54 +0200, Jerm wrote:
  Hi there.
  
  I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 and thought I'd give Evolution a try.
 [...]
 
 This is not useful information except for those who know about Ubuntu
 version numbers. The members of this list use all kinds of Linux
 distros, Fedora, Mandriva, Debian, ... and of course Ubuntu.
...

and of course FreeBSD :-)

matthias
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[Evolution] Why does Evolution IMAP send a \* flag with IMAP APPEND?

2011-07-05 Thread Zan Lynx
I'm using a Courier IMAP server and the Evolution 3.0.2 included with
Fedora 15.

When I try to move some messages from one folder to an archive folder,
Evolution does a few messages and then stops with an error. I turned
debugging on in the Courier server and I get this when it fails:

READ: ATOM: T02473
READ: ATOM: APPEND
READ: ATOM: INBOX.Archive-2011-06
READ: ATOM: \SEEN
READ: ATOM: NOTJUNK
READ: ATOM: \*
WRITE: T02473 NO Error in IMAP command received by server.

All of the APPEND commands that work do not include \*. All of the
APPEND commands that fail do include it.

Now, as far as I know and as far as I've been able to find out with
Google searches, the \* flag is a special flag that should not ever be
set on a message. So why is Evolution trying to set it?

Some more information that might be useful. The IMAP box is also
accessed by other applications like Thunderbird and K9 Mail which may
have flags of their own.


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Re: [Evolution] Preview vertical layout

2011-07-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 21:57 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Tuesday, July 05, 2011 a las 03:17:26PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan 
 escribió:
 
  On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 07:54 +0200, Jerm wrote:
   Hi there.
   
   I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 and thought I'd give Evolution a try.
  [...]
  
  This is not useful information except for those who know about Ubuntu
  version numbers. The members of this list use all kinds of Linux
  distros, Fedora, Mandriva, Debian, ... and of course Ubuntu.
 ...
 
 and of course FreeBSD :-)
 
   matthias

Not to mention Windows, but I wasn't aiming at completeness.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Conversion failure, Datastructure mess, Crashes

2011-07-05 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 15:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
 There's supposed to be a Detect Duplicates plugin somewhere, though it
 doesn't seem to be in the default Fedora install.

It's built in now as of 3.0.

Message - Remove Duplicate Messages

However it's very conservative in what it considers a duplicate.  It
uses both the Message-ID and a SHA-256 checksum of the entire message to
check for equality.  Sometimes messages that appear to be duplicates in
the message list actually aren't.

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