[Evolution] Again no smooth upgrade from Evolution 3.2 to 3.4
Dear Evolution folks, unfortunately after upgrading from Evolution 3.2 to 3.4 there were again changes and regressions. Is there no way to do some quality assurance? It is disappointing that there are issues after *every* upgrade. It is really a bad user experience and quite nerve taking. Here are my issues. I have *not* looked yet, if there are any open tickets at GNOME’s Bugzilla already. 1. The settings for sorting of messages were not kept. I had it on »Date« before and after starting Evolution 3.4 nothing was selected, which was quite confusing since messages are not displayed where they are supposed too. 2. In Evolution 3.2 if there was a warning, a orange area was put into the window, with a button to discard, which I could select with a keyboard shortcut (in German Alt + v) and hit space bar to also discard it. In Evolution 3.4 the button is gone and I have to use the mouse to click on the cross. 3. My spelling settings were also not migrated. I had it set to check for German and English. In Evolution 3.4 it is only German again. 4. The selection issue I sent a separate message for to the list. I am sorry if these are Debian packaging issues, but I do think these are upstream issues. Thanks, Paul signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4
Dear Evolution folks, using Debian Sid/unstable, today I finally upgraded from Evolution 3.2.2-1 to 3.4.3-1 after having delayed that for several weeks. The GtkStyle transparency issue when using a non-GNOME window manager [1] [Bug 671437] GtkStyle background color regression has been fixed in GTK 3 already [2]. But today it came back in the way, that selecting text, the selection which is normally blue, is all black. So selected text is not readable anymore. Is there an open report for that already? Thanks, Paul [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671437 [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669694 These are the packages I upgraded before the issue came back. [AKTUALISIERUNG] dasher:i386 4.11-1.1 - 4.11-1.2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] dasher-data:i386 4.11-1.1 - 4.11-1.2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution:i386 3.2.2-1+b1 - 3.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-common:i386 3.2.2-1 - 3.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-data-server:i386 3.2.2-3 - 3.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-data-server-common:i386 3.2.2-3 - 3.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-data-server-dbg:i386 3.2.2-3 - 3.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-dbg:i386 3.2.2-1+b1 - 3.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-exchange:i386 3.2.1-2 - 3.4.3-2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-plugins:i386 3.2.2-1+b1 - 3.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-plugins-experimental:i386 3.2.2-1+b1 - 3.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0:i386 3.2.1-2+b1 - 3.4.2.1-2+b1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome:i386 1:3.0+9 - 1:3.4+1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-core:i386 1:3.0+9 - 1:3.4+1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-desktop-environment:i386 1:3.0+9 - 1:3.4+1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-panel:i386 3.2.1-2+b1 - 3.4.2.1-2+b1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-panel-data:i386 3.2.1-2 - 3.4.2.1-2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-panel-dbg:i386 3.2.1-2+b1 - 3.4.2.1-2+b1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-shell:i386 3.4.1-6 - 3.4.2-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-shell-common:i386 3.4.1-6 - 3.4.2-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] libedataserverui-3.0-1:i386 3.2.2-3 - 3.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] libevolution:i386 3.2.2-1+b1 - 3.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] libgtkhtml-4.0-0:i386 4.2.2-1 - 4.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] libgtkhtml-4.0-common:i386 4.2.2-1 - 4.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] libgtkhtml-4.0-dbg:i386 4.2.2-1 - 4.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] libgtkhtml-editor-4.0-0:i386 4.2.2-1 - 4.4.3-1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] libpanel-applet-4-0:i386 3.2.1-2+b1 - 3.4.2.1-2+b1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] libtracker-extract-0.14-0:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] libtracker-miner-0.14-0:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] libtracker-sparql-0.14-0:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] nautilus-sendto:i386 3.0.3-2 - 3.0.3-2+b1 [AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker-extract:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker-gui:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker-miner-evolution:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker-miner-fs:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2 [AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker-utils:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:41 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: using Debian Sid/unstable, today I finally upgraded from Evolution 3.2.2-1 to 3.4.3-1 after having delayed that for several weeks. The GtkStyle transparency issue when using a non-GNOME window manager [1] has been fixed in GTK 3 already [2]. But today it came back in the way, that selecting text, the selection which is normally blue, is all black. So selected text is not readable anymore. Is there an open report for that already? [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671437 [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669694 Not that I am aware of any report. Which exact gtk+3 version is this about? andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4
Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 10:30 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper: On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:41 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: using Debian Sid/unstable, today I finally upgraded from Evolution 3.2.2-1 to 3.4.3-1 after having delayed that for several weeks. The GtkStyle transparency issue when using a non-GNOME window manager [1] has been fixed in GTK 3 already [2]. But today it came back in the way, that selecting text, the selection which is normally blue, is all black. So selected text is not readable anymore. Is there an open report for that already? [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671437 [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669694 Not that I am aware of any report. Which exact gtk+3 version is this about? This is libgtk-3-0 3.4.2-3 from Debian Sid/unstable [1]. Thanks, Paul [1] http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/gtk+3.0/3.4.2-3 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Again no smooth upgrade from Evolution 3.2 to 3.4
Hi, On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:50 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: unfortunately after upgrading from Evolution 3.2 to 3.4 there were again changes and regressions. Is there no way to do some quality assurance? Oh, sure there is: Get a Service Level Agreement with the business edition of your favorite distribution. It is disappointing that there are issues after *every* upgrade. It is really a bad user experience and quite nerve taking. Anybody could help by testing unstable versions / migrations and report bugs in bugzilla.gnome.org before the major (stable) version is released. Here are my issues. I have *not* looked yet, if there are any open tickets at GNOME’s Bugzilla already. Did you upgrade your distro? Or did you use a fresh install and Backup/Restore in Evolution? 1. The settings for sorting of messages were not kept. I had it on »Date« before and after starting Evolution 3.4 nothing was selected, which was quite confusing since messages are not displayed where they are supposed too. 2. In Evolution 3.2 if there was a warning, a orange area was put into the window, with a button to discard, which I could select with a keyboard shortcut (in German Alt + v) and hit space bar to also discard it. In Evolution 3.4 the button is gone and I have to use the mouse to click on the cross. Confirming. 3. My spelling settings were also not migrated. I had it set to check for German and English. In Evolution 3.4 it is only German again. /data/evolution.convert in git lists composer-spell-languages. Might be a bug in the migration from gconf to GSettings. Would be interesting to know if conversion of other arrays worked. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 10:51 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: This is libgtk-3-0 3.4.2-3 from Debian Sid/unstable [1]. The bug is fixed in 3.4.4. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4
Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 11:17 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper: On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 10:51 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: This is libgtk-3-0 3.4.2-3 from Debian Sid/unstable [1]. The bug is fixed in 3.4.4. I know. I cannot deduce from your short answer, what you mean exactly. But the patch mentioned in the Bugzilla report I mentioned was backported to the Debian package as the link I added proves. Here is the patch in detail [2]. I also wonder why it worked with Evolution 3.2 and does not with 3.4. So it looks like a new bug to me. Thanks, Paul [2] http://patch-tracker.debian.org/patch/series/view/gtk+3.0/3.4.2-3/073_transparent_colors.patch signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Again no smooth upgrade from Evolution 3.2 to 3.4
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:50 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: 1. The settings for sorting of messages were not kept. I had it on »Date« before and after starting Evolution 3.4 nothing was selected, which was quite confusing since messages are not displayed where they are supposed too. The fact that you have to put it on 'Date' is a bug in the first place. Evolution should show the messages in the order that they appear in the mailbox (which is by the *received* time, not the date in the Date: header). You don't want messages with dates in the future to sit at the bottom for ages, and you don't want messages which arrive with a date in the *past* (perhaps it got delayed in transit) to appear further back in the mailbox than other messages which you've already dealt with. -- dwmw2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 11:45 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: I also wonder why it worked with Evolution 3.2 and does not with 3.4. So it looks like a new bug to me. GTK+ 3.4 is rife with regressions due mostly to the move to X Input Extension 2.x (XI2) and CSS handling changes. If you build Evolution 3.4 against GTK+ 3.2, a lot of these issues go away. But most distros are shipping GTK+ 3.4 now. Matthew Barnes ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
