Re: [Evolution] How-to transfer evolution-2 mail base toevolution-3.4 ?

2012-12-14 Thread Bruno PIGUET
Le jeudi 13 décembre 2012 à 10:11 -0500, Matthew Barnes a écrit :
[...]

  the mbox-Maildir conversion was
 broken in 3.4.1.  It got fixed in 3.4.4 [1], but doesn't sound like that
 will do Bruno any good now.
 

  As a follow-up to my previous e-mail : 

  1) I've got a strange #evolution folder in my new folder list. Any
advice on the best way to remove it ?

  2) all the mailbox files are available in
~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local. Can I run the mb2md script that
can be found on the internet ?

Bruno.

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Re: [Evolution] How-to transfer evolution-2 mail base toevolution-3.4 ?

2012-12-14 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 17:23 +0100, Bruno PIGUET wrote:
 Can I run the mb2md script that can be found on the internet ?

The question is as answerable as asking you Can you tell me if I can
trust the shop around my corner?. ;)

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[Evolution] bus error causing crashes

2012-12-14 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear Evolution folks,


using Debian Sid/unstable with Evolution 3.4.4 (but happened since
3.4.x), wanting to reply to some message, Evolution often crashes due to
a »bus error«. Does somebody experience something similar?

I could not find a bug report about that yet, so I wonder if I should
create one. Or is this fixed in newer versions or unrelated to
Evolution?


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] What to do with short polemic praising Evolution?

2012-12-14 Thread Miki Kocic
There's a short 1,900-word (two-page) polemic called The Joys of the 
Command Line, which is aimed at Windows users and describes the 
advantages of runlevel 3 by featuring Evolution as an Outlook 2010 
equivalent that can be launched from the command line in a highly 
flexible and full-featured way. Who on the Evolution Team (or elsewhere) 
would be interested in acquiring such a document under a GPL?


(As an aside, I've observed that both Fedora 17 Xfce and Debian 6.0.6 
use Evolution as the default email client in their base installs. That's 
a bit like both the Tea Party and the Communist Party endorsing the same 
candidate for election. High praise indeed!)


Mike
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Re: [Evolution] What to do with short polemic praising Evolution?

2012-12-14 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2012-12-14 at 10:39 -0500, Miki Kocic wrote:
 There's a short 1,900-word (two-page) polemic called The Joys of the 
 Command Line,

Where?

 Who on the Evolution Team (or elsewhere) would be interested 
 in acquiring such a document under a GPL?

What do you mean by acquire in this content?
Also, documents are normally under GFDL or CC licenses.

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Re: [Evolution] What to do with short polemic praising Evolution?

2012-12-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2012-12-14 at 10:39 -0500, Miki Kocic wrote:
 There's a short 1,900-word (two-page) polemic called The Joys of the 
 Command Line, which is aimed at Windows users and describes the 
 advantages of runlevel 3 by featuring Evolution as an Outlook 2010 
 equivalent that can be launched from the command line in a highly 
 flexible and full-featured way. Who on the Evolution Team (or elsewhere) 
 would be interested in acquiring such a document under a GPL?

Eh?  Launching Evolution, or just Evolution 'components' from the
command line is well documented;  in the documentation. (!!!)

  evolution --express
  evolution --component tasks
  evolution --disable-preview --component mail 

But, aside, I think these command-line-RULEZ type screeds (and they tend
to be little else) don't really contribute anything substantive to the
conversation.  They certainly aren't going to win over any users - not
like improved applications, closed bugs, and better documentation will.

And Evolution isn't Outlook 2010, and Outlook 2010 isn't Evolution.
Each is itself.  Open Source applications being pitched as stand-ins for
proprietary / commercial applications is a well traveled road to
nowhere.

 (As an aside, I've observed that both Fedora 17 Xfce and Debian 6.0.6 
 use Evolution as the default email client in their base installs. That's 
 a bit like both the Tea Party and the Communist Party endorsing the same 
 candidate for election. High praise indeed!)

It is the primary client, and collaboration component, of GNOME 3.  So
it seems natural to me.  It integrates with other applications in a way
that has no competitor.

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Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: local mail spool still unaccessible with evo 3.4.4.-1]

2012-12-14 Thread Svante Signell
ping!
On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 13:47 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 00:20 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
   
Have you run Evolution with debugging enabled on this newly installed
computer?  Does it show any errors or problems?
   
   Not yet, will try that.
 
 The only debug flag from the man page says:
--debug=FILE
   Send the debugging output of all components to FILE.
 
 Is that how debugging is enabled? What about verbosity levels?
 
 Attached is a heavily edited diff of strace (diff -u imap.out imap
 +local.out) for a imap account enabled, and imap+local spool enabled.
 Nothing immediate I can see here, maybe you do. Perhaps I removed too
 much information by mistake, but the log files were 12Mb+ large. 
 


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Re: [Evolution] bus error causing crashes

2012-12-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2012-12-14 at 12:40 +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:
 Dear Evolution folks,
 using Debian Sid/unstable with Evolution 3.4.4 (but happened since
 3.4.x), wanting to reply to some message, Evolution often crashes due to
 a »bus error«. Does somebody experience something similar?

I think that is a euphamism for a segmentation fault.

For it to mean anything you almost certainly need to have it drop core
so you can get a backtrace.

 I could not find a bug report about that yet, so I wonder if I should
 create one. Or is this fixed in newer versions or unrelated to
 Evolution?

It is quite possibly very specific to your install;  those kinds of
errors can be triggered by lots of subtle things.

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Re: [Evolution] bus error causing crashes

2012-12-14 Thread Pete Biggs

  using Debian Sid/unstable with Evolution 3.4.4 (but happened since
  3.4.x), wanting to reply to some message, Evolution often crashes due to
  a »bus error«. Does somebody experience something similar?
 
 I think that is a euphamism for a segmentation fault.

No, they are different things - a seg fault is when a program attempts
to access a memory segment it doesn't own and a bus error is when a
program attempts to access memory beyond the capabilities of the
machine.  Both are caused by similar things, such as dereferencing
invalid pointers, but bus errors sometimes point to hardware problems.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: local mail spool still unaccessible with evo 3.4.4.-1]

2012-12-14 Thread Pete Biggs

 ping!

My upstream mail provider was bouncing messages ...

 On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 13:47 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
  On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 00:20 +, Pete Biggs wrote:

 Have you run Evolution with debugging enabled on this newly installed
 computer?  Does it show any errors or problems?

Not yet, will try that.
  
  The only debug flag from the man page says:
 --debug=FILE
Send the debugging output of all components to FILE.
  
  Is that how debugging is enabled? What about verbosity levels?

No, that's not how to enable debugging.  The information you need is on
the page at 

   http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml

Basically you start evolution using the command line

  CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution

  
  Attached is a heavily edited diff of strace (diff -u imap.out imap
  +local.out) for a imap account enabled, and imap+local spool enabled.
  Nothing immediate I can see here, maybe you do. Perhaps I removed too
  much information by mistake, but the log files were 12Mb+ large. 
  

I don't think the strace is much use in this form - the diff takes out
all information on what the file handles refer to.  Try the debug
options first.

P.


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