[Evolution] attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Juan Francisco González Navarro
Hello:

I'm using evolution 3.12.2 under Debian succesfully but when I receive mail
or send mail with attached files like word documents or text documents this
client corrupt this files and I'm not able to open it after download from
evolution.

I'm a c++ developer and I usually send my execcutables throught mail and
evolution corrupt them. You have to know that before I send this
executables I rename it to name.exe.txt.

Regards.
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Re: [Evolution] Linux hardware question

2014-06-03 Thread Benderz Patryk EH_PL
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Re: [Evolution] attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 07:53 +0100, Juan Francisco González Navarro
wrote:

 I'm using evolution 3.12.2 under Debian succesfully but when I receive
 mail or send mail with attached files like word documents or text
 documents this client corrupt this files and I'm not able to open it
 after download from evolution.

Hello,
there had been done a fix for CRLF/LF re-encoding only yesterday,
at a bug [1]. Maybe it's related to your issue.
 
 I'm a c++ developer and I usually send my execcutables throught mail
 and evolution corrupt them. You have to know that before I send this
 executables I rename it to name.exe.txt.

This is not a good idea by any means, because:
a) smart virus detectors do not depend on extensions, but check actual
   content; they are even that smart that they unzip files and check
   their inner content too;
b) interpreting binary files as text files can break everything;
   some parts can be attached unencoded, then anything on the route
   between the sender and the receiver can modify the content, being it
   for CRLF or folding/wrapping. This is avoided when they know the part
   is application/octet-stream and when it is encoded in base64;
c) if a mail application detects type based on the extension (it can be
   a fallback), then it can eventually run associated text editor on the
   attachment, which surely leads to issues.

I believe an ideal solution is to provide a link to some public server
with your uploaded executable, rather than attach it to an email, but I
also agree that it's not always possible.

In any case, it would be interesting to see whether changes for [1]
fixed your issue too.
Bye,
Milan

[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591811

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Re: [Evolution] attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 11:10 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
 I believe an ideal solution is to provide a link to some public server
 with your uploaded executable, rather than attach it to an email, but I
 also agree that it's not always possible.

Sending them in a password protected archive should do the job.

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Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 11:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Sending them in a password protected archive should do the job.

Using openPGP for the attachments should be ok too.

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Re: [Evolution] attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 11:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 11:10 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
  I believe an ideal solution is to provide a link to some public server
  with your uploaded executable, rather than attach it to an email, but I
  also agree that it's not always possible.
 
 Sending them in a password protected archive should do the job.
 

My mail server rejects password protected archives - for the very reason
that it can't scan the contents.  Password protected zip files are (or
at least were) a very common method of getting viruses and trojans past
scanners: Super secret get rich fast scam: just open attached super
secret file, password is IamGullible.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 10:46 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
 Super secret get rich fast scam: just open attached super secret
 file, password is IamGullible.

:D

Ok, sounds plausible to rejects password protected archives, but openPGP
encrypted attachments should be allowed.

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Re: [Evolution] attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 12:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 10:46 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
  Super secret get rich fast scam: just open attached super secret
  file, password is IamGullible.
 
 :D
 
 Ok, sounds plausible to rejects password protected archives, but openPGP
 encrypted attachments should be allowed.
 

Yes - because the encryption is unique to the recipient.  

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution is dying

2014-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 09:47 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
  2. Automatically assign an account to a mailing list.
 
 Since 3.12.x - Edit-Preferences-Composer Preferences-Send Account
 tab, the same can be done in Folder Properties (to assign a send account
 for certain folder).

Thank you :), I will set it up this week.

On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 09:54 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 08:42 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  1. The issue mentioned by this thread, the never ending requests to
  type the passwords.
 
 Do you have reasons to think this is related to POP support rather
 than a more general problem?

The cause is an issue by the ISP servers, but the way Evolution's
POP/SMTP implementation acts when the ISP's servers fail isn't good.
Most, if not all other MUAs assume that the password is ok and don't ask
for the password.

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Re: [Evolution] attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 11:28 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 12:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 10:46 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
   Super secret get rich fast scam: just open attached super secret
   file, password is IamGullible.
  
  :D
  
  Ok, sounds plausible to rejects password protected archives, but openPGP
  encrypted attachments should be allowed.
  
 
 Yes - because the encryption is unique to the recipient.  

Super secret get rich fast scam: just decrypt attached super secret
file, get the public key from http://pgp.mit.edu/ .

;)

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Re: [Evolution] Posting to lists

2014-06-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 13:45 +0100, G.W. Haywood wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 On Mon, 2 Jun 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
  In a separate thread Milan mentioned that in Evo 3.12 you can specify a
  sending accounting for a folder. I'm still on 3.10 so I wasn't aware of
  this new feature. I'd like to propose an additional option: to specify a
  destination address for new posts from within the folder. I'm thinking
  of a folder used for a mailing list. If only Unread messages are shown
  and none are currently visible you have to search around to find the
  posting address. Obviously not all folders are associated with lists,
  but it's a common enough case to be useful.
 
  Or maybe that's what Milan was talking about and I didn't understand :-)
 
 I think you want what we Pine (and Alpine) users would call a 'role'.
 
 http://www.washington.edu/alpine/tech-notes/config.html#role-config

Fair enough.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution is dying

2014-06-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 12:32 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Do you have reasons to think this is related to POP support rather
  than a more general problem?
 
 The cause is an issue by the ISP servers, but the way Evolution's
 POP/SMTP implementation acts when the ISP's servers fail isn't good.

But is this specific to POP? I.e. in the case of IMAP servers the policy
is different?

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution does not displaying Inbox content

2014-06-03 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On May 30, 2014 5:24:10 PM EDT, Jean Schurger j...@schurger.org wrote:
On 2014-05-30 17:10, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 15:14 -0400, Jean Schurger wrote:
 I use evolution 3.12.2 with an account configured to receive emails
 with IMAP(+).
 WOW, THAT IS *ANCIENT*
What do you mean ? 

That I had FridayAfter5 induced dyslexia and read your version string wrong. :)

Retrieving emails in IMAP is quite common. 

Yes.

 My server is courier-imap 4.15, with emails stored in Maildir.
 Evolution is able to tell me when a new email arrive, but the
'Inbox'
 folder remains empty.
 You have a display filter applied, probably the Show drop-down,
make
 sure that reads All Messages.
No kidding ?
Seriously, i would'nt post here before having checked that.

Ok, but people do it all the time.  It is the second most common question here. 
 And I've done it myself;  it is a bit of UI it is easy to trigger accidentally.

Is there a some way to debug the IMAP exchange from evolution.
I can considere disabling TLS/SSL server-side and sniff the trafic to
check if evolution realy get info about the INBOX.

I'm on my phone so I don't have the link - but yes.  You can run the app with 
environment variable[s] set which will display the entire client/server 
conversation.  But if you are getting new-mail notification I wouldn't suspect 
the account configuration but rather a UI option.


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[Evolution] Error occurred while sending after enabling Google 2-step authentication [with solution]

2014-06-03 Thread Nick Jenkins
Hi all,

Ran into a problem this morning, but in the process of writing this
email, I worked out the solution. I'll send this mail anyway, with
solution, so if someone (including myself) encounters the same problem
later on, it's there in the archives.

Some Background: What's happened is that I recently turned on Google
2-step authentication, after reading a horror story of someone having
their gmail password stolen (e.g. from a keylogger on an Internet
terminals), and from that lost their email, contacts, calendars, and
then experiencing bank fraud due to identity theft and reset passwords
on their banking sites, and so forth, and the whole thing sounded like a
total nightmare ... and in the ensuing discussion, the consensus
solution to avoid the same fate was to turn on 2-step authentication,
where you enter a password, plus a numeric code that's SMSed to your
phone or generated on your phone, and only with both of those things can
you log in (i.e. something you know + something you have). So similar to
many banking sites, but you can mark a browser as trusted after the
first successful login, and thereafter you only need your password, so a
bit more convenient.

More background: Most of Google's own apps now support 2-step
authentication, but to help with legacy apps that don't support 2-step
authentication, such as Evolution, you can generate an application
password. This a password that you should use just for that app, and
it's 16 characters of gibberish, so very hard to brute force. It's
supposed to work just like your normal password did previously, without
requiring your phone for authentication, and once you're no longer using
that app, you then revoke the app-specific password, and it no longer
works. If you want further info, it's available at:
http://www.google.com/landing/2step/

Configuration in Evolution: I have this gmail account configured as IMAP
+ for receiving, and SMTP for sending, and previous to this it worked
fine. Also there's a Google calendar configured with the same account.
Evolution version is 3.8.4 

What happened: After enabling 2-step authentication, Evolution prompted
me to enter my password. So I entered the app-specific password I had
generated (once for my email + once for my calendar), and I can view
everything as normal in Evolution, and mark mail as read, and so forth.
The problem is sending mail. Ever since enabling 2-step authentication,
when I reply to mail or create a new mail, and then hit Send, I get a
dialog error box that says:
-
An error occurred while sending. How do you want to proceed?
The reported error was Bad authentication response from server..
[Continue Editing] [Save to Outbox] [Try Again]
-

Thought process: My suspicion is that Evolution (or gnome-keyring) is
still remembering and using the old password for SMTP sending, rather
than the app-specific SMTP password that it should be using now. Is
there somewhere that I can say hey, forget that old SMTP password, and
prompt me for the SMTP password next time you need it?

Solution:
* install seahorse (it's in the standard repository of most
distributions), and run it.
* then in the top-right search box type smtp, press enter
* it should show an entry like this smtp://youremail%
40gmail.com;auth=pl...@smtp.gmail.com:587.
* Right-click on that entry, choose delete.
* Then quit Evolution, then restart evolution.
* Try sending mail again. This still didn't work, so then I searched in
seahorse for evolution
* There were a number of entries named things like Evolution Data
Source 1220830865.7426.7@redux. You can't really tell what account they
are for by looking at them, but by showing the password for each, I was
able to check if they were the old password, and if so, then delete each
of those entries. I deleted around 6 entries, but I had deleted and
re-added this account a few times in previous years.
* Then quit Evolution, then restart evolution.
* When I tried sending again, it prompted for the password, and I
entered the app-specific password, and then it sent successfully, so
that was the solution.

How Evo could have made this a bit easier to solve:
* Prompting for the password to be entered on encountering a Bad
authentication response from server. when sending, or allowing it to be
re-entered by clicking a button on that dialog box, would have been
ideal. [this is the first place I looked]  Even a link to open the
relevant Sending Email configuration page could be good, especially if
combined with the entry below:
* Under Edit - Preferences - select account - Edit - Sending Email,
a way to say forget password would have helped. [this was the second
place I looked]

-- All the best,
Nick.

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