Re: [Evolution] Mailing list filters

2015-03-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 10:03 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 14:22 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  But again, it's common sense on most lists
 
 It's not common sense, in any way.  Someone who's never used mailing
 lists before will not just inherently understand this without needing
 instruction.
 
 Rather, it's a learned behavior that is obtained by interacting with the
 community and learning what the community standards and practices are.

The common sense is to follow the standard of the community and indeed
different lists are different communities.


 that means allowing posts from non-subscribers and replying to all,
 not just to the mailing list, to ensure non-subscribers are not
 dropped.
 
 Anyway, that's the way I run my mailing lists and the way I'll continue
 to interact with other, similarly-targeted lists, by default.

Thank you that you didn't Cc'ed me ;).

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[Evolution] Ability to reply to HTML email with same HTML format as it was received

2015-03-17 Thread D'Eimar De Jabrun Guillaume
Hi,


Is there any way to keep the same (or almost) HTML format when
replying ?
Setting reply format to HTML doesn't help as the original message format
is still lost.

Some discussion about this (for kmail) :
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86423


Thanks


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Re: [Evolution] [Offtopic] Mailing list filters

2015-03-17 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 05:59 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 David, by your point of view, with quasi everybody add to the Cc header,
 why do we have mailing lists at all?

For one reason, mailing lists exist because they are public and have
archives, and because people who are interested in the mailing list
topic can join the list themselves instead of requiring the message
author to know these people by name on a planet with a few billion
inhabitants. There might be more reasons. Or people.

andre
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[Evolution] OR statement in filter rules condition

2015-03-17 Thread Justin Musgrove
In the message rules, is there a equivalent to an OR statement within
a condition? One of my filter rules is dependent on the sender with a
variable of different subject lines. Adding an additional condition with
rule match to any won't work.

Example:
Sender: Contains: email address
Subject: Contains: Schedule OR Plan OR Docket OR Program OR Agendum

Does Evo already have mechanism already in place that addresses this
that I just missed?

Thanks guys!

CentOS 7, Evo 3.8.5 EWS

JM


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Re: [Evolution] Ability to reply to HTML email with same HTML format as it was received

2015-03-17 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 08:16 +, D'Eimar De Jabrun Guillaume wrote:
 Is there any way to keep the same (or almost) HTML format when
 replying ?
 Setting reply format to HTML doesn't help as the original message format
 is still lost.

Please always mention your Evolution version. Also, what does lost
exactly mean? Evolution's previous mail composer backend did not support
CSS. This is fixed in version 3.16 to be released this month.

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Re: [Evolution] Cannot get email on machine authenticated to windows active directory

2015-03-17 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 12:26 -0500, Richardson, Steve wrote:
 When I click on the mail account, I get a red banner with the heading,
 Failed to open folder.  That's followed by a smaller line stating,
 The reported error was The name org.gnome.KrbAuthDialog was not
 provided by any .service files.

Is the krb5-auth-dialog package installed?

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[Evolution] Cannot get email on machine authenticated to windows active directory

2015-03-17 Thread Richardson, Steve
I'm running Linux Mint 17.1 which is authenticated thru our windows active 
directory.  No problems there.

Added my employers email account into Evolution via mapi (Evolution version 
3.10.4); authenticated without a problem.

I can see my contacts, calendar, tasks, etc.; now comes the problem.

When I click on the mail account, I get a red banner with the heading, Failed 
to open folder.  That's followed by a smaller line stating, The reported 
error was The name org.gnome.KrbAuthDialog was not provided by any .service 
files.

Any  all pointers would be most appreciated.

Re,

Steve
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Re: [Evolution] OR statement in filter rules condition

2015-03-17 Thread Thomas Mittelstaedt
Am Dienstag, den 17.03.2015, 21:19 + schrieb Justin Musgrove: 
 In the message rules, is there a equivalent to an OR statement within
 a condition? One of my filter rules is dependent on the sender with a
 variable of different subject lines. Adding an additional condition with
 rule match to any won't work.
 
 Example:
 Sender: Contains: email address
 Subject: Contains: Schedule OR Plan OR Docket OR Program OR Agendum
 
 Does Evo already have mechanism already in place that addresses this
 that I just missed?
 
 Thanks guys!
 
 CentOS 7, Evo 3.8.5 EWS
 

You could create a search folder that matches on the sender address and
- changing to that new virtual search folder - create a search for the
subject terms. You could save that search.
Alternatively, you could play with labels to accomplish that.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.15, Fedora 22 and Gnome Online Accounts

2015-03-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 17:07 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
 On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 10:16 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote:
  Evolution, or perhaps GOA has managed to screw backup and recovery
 yet
  again. Do they ever think these things through?
 
 You are using an Alpha release of a distro with a development release
 of
 an application ... and you didn't expect pain??

+1

And what is GOA, may I ask?

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.15, Fedora 22 and Gnome Online Accounts

2015-03-17 Thread Zan Lynx
On 03/17/2015 05:43 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 17:07 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
 On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 10:16 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote:
 Evolution, or perhaps GOA has managed to screw backup and recovery
 yet
 again. Do they ever think these things through?
 You are using an Alpha release of a distro with a development release
 of
 an application ... and you didn't expect pain??
 +1

 And what is GOA, may I ask?

 poc



Of course I expect pain. I'd be happy to be surprised though. And
anyway, as far as I can tell this particular problem would also happen
to anyone using older versions of Gnome and Evolution.

My message was kind of an alert of a possible problem for Evolution
people so users might know what happened if they see it and developers
can look into maybe fixing it.

I don't need any help for this. I solved it by deleting the extra copies
of the account configuration files.

I also filed a bug with Fedora for Gnome Online Accounts aka GOA. Sorry
for not defining the acronym earlier.
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Re: [Evolution] Cannot get email on machine authenticated to windows active directory

2015-03-17 Thread Richardson, Steve
That did it; much thanks!

SDR


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Subject: Re: [Evolution] Cannot get email on machine authenticated to windows 
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:55:55 -0500



On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 12:26 -0500, Richardson, Steve wrote:
 When I click on the mail account, I get a red banner with the heading,
 Failed to open folder.  That's followed by a smaller line stating,
 The reported error was The name org.gnome.KrbAuthDialog was not
 provided by any .service files.

Is the krb5-auth-dialog package installed?

andre

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Re: [Evolution] [Offtopic] Mailing list filters

2015-03-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 08:58 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
 On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 05:59 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  David, by your point of view, with quasi everybody add to the Cc header,
  why do we have mailing lists at all?
 
 For one reason, mailing lists exist because they are public and have
 archives, and because people who are interested in the mailing list
 topic can join the list themselves instead of requiring the message
 author to know these people by name on a planet with a few billion
 inhabitants. There might be more reasons. Or people.

Andre,

that is my point of view too. The resume of this point of view is that
usually people subscribe to a list, so a reply to a list is all that is
needed. People who are not subscribed to a list can use the archive, IOW
there's either no need to Cc to anybody.

JFTR sometimes the archives are only available to the list members, e.g.
http://lists.jackaudio.org/listinfo.cgi/jack-devel-jackaudio.org , but
it's not an open mailing list, to post to this list you need to
subscribe first.

Again, sometimes it makes sense to reply to the list and Cc, but that is
only useful for a few exceptions. What's the point to use the Cc
approach as standard procedure, when replying to a mailing list?

I dislike to receive mails that don't include the mailing list headers.
There's no reason for Tom and David to Cc me, resp. to Cc to the list
and send to me.

IMO I'm polite by trying to explain, why they should reply to the list
only. Why do they use the Cc approach? For this list, when replying to
subscribers, there's no need to Cc.

Regards,
Ralf

PS: David, Tom, please if you send a mail to the mailing list, then for
the same mail don't reply to me privately in addition.

PPS: Enough said. I can't contribute anything else to this thread.

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[Evolution] Evolution 3.15, Fedora 22 and Gnome Online Accounts

2015-03-17 Thread Zan Lynx
Evolution, or perhaps GOA has managed to screw backup and recovery yet
again. Do they ever think these things through?

A full account restore from a system of a different host name resulted
in doubled online accounts in $HOME/.config/evolution/sources.

Like so:

$ grep AccountId=account_1425514256_0 -r .
./1425514256.2013.0@orpheus.source:AccountId=account_1425514256_0
./1426523640.2025.14@felis.source:AccountId=account_1425514256_0

Now really what kind of sense does that make?

I haven't looked into it all the way. This might be GOA's fault. But
anyway. Sper annoying.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.15, Fedora 22 and Gnome Online Accounts

2015-03-17 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 10:16 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote:
 Evolution, or perhaps GOA has managed to screw backup and recovery yet
 again. Do they ever think these things through?

I have no idea who is they but if you're after being aggressive,
https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct is worth a read.

If you had an actual question, bring it up after calming down.

Thanks,
andre
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.15, Fedora 22 and Gnome Online Accounts

2015-03-17 Thread Pete Biggs


On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 10:16 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote:
 Evolution, or perhaps GOA has managed to screw backup and recovery yet
 again. Do they ever think these things through?

You are using an Alpha release of a distro with a development release of
an application ... and you didn't expect pain??

 
 A full account restore from a system of a different host name resulted
 in doubled online accounts in $HOME/.config/evolution/sources.

What sort of restore?  A filesystem level restore or restoring from a
backup made in Evolution (on a different machine)?

 
 Like so:
 
 $ grep AccountId=account_1425514256_0 -r .
 ./1425514256.2013.0@orpheus.source:AccountId=account_1425514256_0
 ./1426523640.2025.14@felis.source:AccountId=account_1425514256_0
 
 Now really what kind of sense does that make?

Did you clear out all the info from the Evolution data stores or did you
just restore over the top of other info (and hence get two copies)?

 
 I haven't looked into it all the way. This might be GOA's fault. But
 anyway. Sper annoying.

Since these are development releases of both OS and application, then
once you have worked out what's wrong the best thing is to file a bug
against the appropriate component.

P.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.15, Fedora 22 and Gnome Online Accounts

2015-03-17 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 17:44 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
 On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 10:16 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote:
  Evolution, or perhaps GOA has managed to screw backup and recovery yet
  again. Do they ever think these things through?
 
 I have no idea who is they but if you're after being aggressive,
 https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct is worth a read.
 
 If you had an actual question, bring it up after calming down.

It sounds like a bug, not a question. Which lives in bugzilla.

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Re: [Evolution] OR statement in filter rules condition

2015-03-17 Thread Milan Crha
On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 21:19 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
 In the message rules, is there a equivalent to an OR statement 
 within a condition?

 CentOS 7, Evo 3.8.5 EWS

Hi,
not for your version, but the upcoming 3.16.0 has so called Free form 
expressions where you can combine 'and', 'or' and 'not' subparts. 
There might be a user manual entry for it, but at least the bug report 
link:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=550796#c10

 Sender: Contains: email address
 Subject: Contains: Schedule OR Plan OR Docket OR Program OR Agendum

This might look like:

   All conditions are met
   [ Sender ] [contains] [email]
   [ Free form expression ] [ or:(s:Schedule s:Plan s:Docket s:Program 
s:Agendum) ]

Alternatively, both as a free form expression only:

   and:(f:email or:(s:Schedule s:Plan s:Docket s:Program s:Agendum))

Anyway, this is 3.16.0+ material, making things easier.

Your version supports expressions too, but of a different syntax (not 
much different, but still). Make your filter rule look like:

   All conditions are met
   [ Sender ] [contains] [email]
   [ Expression ] [ or((header-contains Subject Schedule) (header-contains 
Subject Plan) (header-contains Subject Docket) (header-contains 
Subject Program) (header-contains Subject Agendum)) ]

Bye,
Milan

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