Re: [Evolution] Unable to retrieve message.

2015-11-09 Thread Ritesh Khadgaray
Hi

On Nov 9, 2015 9:52 PM, "Fedora"  wrote:
>
> I have a problem with Evolution Mail (version 3.16.5) that is steadily
getting worse.
>
> I get lots of (typically) ...
>
> "Unable to retrieve message.
>
> Cannot get message 1445510505.6156_169.ceri from folder
/home/mike/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/.House.BT Bills: No such file
or directory"
>
> If I click away to a different message in a different folder, then come
back to the email giving this message, then the email appears OK. So now
having read the message, if I shut down Evolution, and restart, then an
email that was giving error, appears again as unread, with the "Unable to
retrieve message". Also If I delete one of these messages, it simply
reappears on the next start of Evolution.
>
> I have tried a backup and restore. Makes no difference.
>
> At this point I guess I should say I've got about 15 years worth of
emails here - about 12Gb in ~/.local/share/evolution/mail
>
> Has anyone got any hints or tips for sorting this out ?
>
> Thanks
>

You might want to clear the cache and check -
https://wiki.debian.org/Evolution

Cheers
-ritz
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Re: [Evolution] workaround for recurring tasks

2015-11-09 Thread Gour
On Pon, 2015-11-09 at 12:25 +0100, Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote:

> Well, I just reschedule the existing task, once I mark the current
> instance as completed. I put some information in the task description
> how long the interval until the next due date should be set.  You can
> copy tasks around via drag&drop, thereby keeping a copy of past
> completions.

Hmm...that certainly imposes more work than one would like to spend on
it, but it might be acceptable workaround when there is nothing else
available.

> Hope that helps,

I'll think and try it out to see how it goes. Using appointments as
tasks is certainly not acceptable...


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: [Evolution] workaround for recurring tasks

2015-11-09 Thread Gour
On Pon, 2015-11-09 at 11:22 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> I run Evolution under KDE as I can't stand the rest of the Gnome UI.

Heh...that's interestingconsidering I've just the opposite
experience finding GNOME very elegant and clean. :-)


Sincerely,
Gour

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or evil he may obtain, neither praising it nor despising it, 
is firmly fixed in perfect knowledge.

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[or mystic] when he is fully satisfied by virtue of acquired knowledge and 
realization. Such a person is situated in transcendence and is self-controlled. 
He sees everything — whether it be pebbles, stones or gold — as the same.

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Re: [Evolution] workaround for recurring tasks

2015-11-09 Thread Gour
On Pon, 2015-11-09 at 12:08 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:

> it's not as that simple, because the task view, with compare to the
> calendar view, doesn't have time constraints, thus you see all the
> tasks. Imagine one task, which recurs forever. That's an important
> conceptual change in the Evolution code to handle this correctly.

I agree that it might not be simple due to present design, but, otoh,
having recurring tasks is such a basic feature since we are all
surrounded with them in normal life - rent, different bills etc. all
fall in that category.

> I had a chat with one (I think) student about recurring tasks few
> months ago. He was implementing it for another project, which worked
> in a similar way as in the taskwarrior. I thought it was for
> gnome-todo, but it didn't make it into 3.18.1 (I did not find it
> there).

If taskwarrior would have decent Android client I'd look no further from
taskwarrior, but having something in Evo would be great.

I tried Getting Things GNOME (trunk) and it is neither present in it nor
in gnome-todo.

> I'm not aware of anything, except of the obvious "file couple future
> occurrences ahead and do not forget to file more when you reach the
> last". 

It'a bit strange to have such ugly workaround for, otherwise, quite
ellegant app as Evo...


Sincerely,
Gour

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whose mind is controlled, remains always steady in his meditation on the 
transcendent self.




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[Evolution] Unable to retrieve message.

2015-11-09 Thread Fedora
I have a problem with Evolution Mail (version 3.16.5) that is steadily getting 
worse.

I get lots of (typically) ...

"Unable to retrieve message.

Cannot get message 1445510505.6156_169.ceri from folder 
/home/mike/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/.House.BT Bills: No such file or 
directory"

If I click away to a different message in a different folder, then come back to 
the email giving this message, then the email appears OK. So now having read 
the message, if I shut down Evolution, and restart, then an email that was 
giving error, appears again as unread, with the "Unable to retrieve message". 
Also If I delete one of these messages, it simply reappears on the next start 
of Evolution.

I have tried a backup and restore. Makes no difference.

At this point I guess I should say I've got about 15 years worth of emails here 
- about 12Gb in ~/.local/share/evolution/mail

Has anyone got any hints or tips for sorting this out ?

Thanks


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Re: [Evolution] Corrup Subjetc when save to mbox

2015-11-09 Thread Joakim Tjernlund
On Mon, 2015-11-09 at 11:18 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 15:18 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > The Subject: line has a line feed in it.
> 
>   Hi,
> it's correct, it's called folding, and it's done in headers on purpose.
> 
> > This line also got line breaks:
> > @@ -2051,13 +2051,32 @@ static int __xipram
> > do_getlockstatus_oneblock(struct map_info *map,
> 
> This is also correct. The message content is saved in a
> quoted-printable encoding, at least that attached, which allows such
> thing.

This is only correct as it turns out it was the sender who sent it wrapped.
Had Evo. done this, it would have been a bug.

> 
> > Seems like evo forcefully breaks lines which are too long, even when
> > saved to mbox!
> 
> The mbox format is just a set of messages, conforming to RFC 822, with
> a certain-formatted separator between the messages.
> 
> What you really want to do is to either save the message content (the
> patch) as a text file and only then do any processing on it, or use the
> tool of your version control system, which might be git-am in case of
> the git, which is supposed to deal with such things in the messages.
> 

But there is no such save function, I can only find save to mbox.

 Jocke
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Re: [Evolution] workaround for recurring tasks

2015-11-09 Thread Thomas Mittelstaedt
Am Sonntag, den 08.11.2015, 22:58 +0100 schrieb Gour:
> Hello,
> 
> some days ago I fully switched from Claws to Evolution, mostly due to
> ability to sync my contacts & calendars with my phone (via ownCloud) and
> I'm very pleased with result.
> 
> However, there is one remaining issue and that are tasks which I'd like
> to integrate as well since atm I use cli app called Taskwarrior for
> which there is no stable syncing client.
> 
> Evolution's tasks part is not so strong as Taskwarrior's, but I'm
> somewhat disappointed with the lack of ability to create recurring
> tasks.
> 
> By inspecting Bugzilla I've found: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.c
> gi?id=200907 which is almost 15 yrs old. :-(
> 
> It's hard to believe that such basic things are missing...
> 
> I've tried to install KDE on openSUSE (under vbox), but Evolution/GNOME
> is simply much better/nicer, so I wonder what more experienced users do
> as workaround in regard?
> 
> I hope it's clear that recurring tasks are often present in daily life
> (eg. paying monthly bills, doing regular backups etc.), while taking
> advantage of appointments which has ability to recur seems ugly
> workaround which would clutter my calendars with things which does not
> belong to them.
> 
> Any hints to workaround in order to stay with GNOME/Evolution?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Gour
> 
> 

Well, I just reschedule the existing task, once I mark the current
instance as completed. I put some information in the task description
how long the interval until the next due date should be set.
You can copy tasks around via drag&drop, thereby keeping a copy of past
completions.

Hope that helps,

-- 
thomas


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Re: [Evolution] workaround for recurring tasks

2015-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-11-08 at 22:58 +0100, Gour wrote:
> I've tried to install KDE on openSUSE (under vbox), but
> Evolution/GNOME is simply much better/nicer, so I wonder what more
> experienced users do as workaround in regard?

I run Evolution under KDE as I can't stand the rest of the Gnome UI.
There is an ongoing issue regarding keyrings but it's manageable.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] workaround for recurring tasks

2015-11-09 Thread Milan Crha
On Sun, 2015-11-08 at 22:58 +0100, Gour wrote:
> It's hard to believe that such basic things are missing...

Hi,
it's not as that simple, because the task view, with compare to the
calendar view, doesn't have time constraints, thus you see all the
tasks. Imagine one task, which recurs forever. That's an important
conceptual change in the Evolution code to handle this correctly.

> I've tried to install KDE on openSUSE (under vbox), but
> Evolution/GNOME is simply much better/nicer, so I wonder what more
> experienced users do as workaround in regard?

I had a chat with one (I think) student about recurring tasks few
months ago. He was implementing it for another project, which worked in
a similar way as in the taskwarrior. I thought it was for gnome-todo,
but it didn't make it into 3.18.1 (I did not find it there).

> Any hints to workaround in order to stay with GNOME/Evolution?

I'm not aware of anything, except of the obvious "file couple future
occurrences ahead and do not forget to file more when you reach the
last". Maybe other users do have better options.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Corrup Subjetc when save to mbox

2015-11-09 Thread Milan Crha
On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 15:18 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> The Subject: line has a line feed in it.

Hi,
it's correct, it's called folding, and it's done in headers on purpose.

> This line also got line breaks:
> @@ -2051,13 +2051,32 @@ static int __xipram
> do_getlockstatus_oneblock(struct map_info *map,

This is also correct. The message content is saved in a
quoted-printable encoding, at least that attached, which allows such
thing.

> Seems like evo forcefully breaks lines which are too long, even when
> saved to mbox!

The mbox format is just a set of messages, conforming to RFC 822, with
a certain-formatted separator between the messages.

What you really want to do is to either save the message content (the
patch) as a text file and only then do any processing on it, or use the
tool of your version control system, which might be git-am in case of
the git, which is supposed to deal with such things in the messages.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Set inclusion criteria for Calendar list view?

2015-11-09 Thread Milan Crha
On Fri, 2015-11-06 at 09:55 +0100, Andrea Vai wrote:
> Would it be worth filing a feature request, or may it be rejected?

Hi,
it will not be rejected. Better to search for a duplicate first, I'd
guess it's already filled.
Bye,
Milan

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