Re: [Evolution] Muting Error Messages in main window

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 23:42 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
> > it used to be "less intrusive" in the past, in a very similar way you
> > outlined above, hiding the message in the status bar. Not many people
> > knew that they can get any details about the error at all.
> >
> 
> Then I would wish it remained like that. Actually, the bottom bar of
> current Evolution is, in my humble opinion, bombarding user with messages
> (ie when downloading lots of messages), which are never really read.
> I would rather opt for a status bar with:
> 
> Left Side: A single line with real status messages, Fetching Message
> 561/12544 for example. or like out look "all folders up to date", "folder
> being updated". etc. Clicking it could bring a window with all log messages.

That would make sense if it was only doing one thing at a time, but of
course it's often doing several things at once and it can be useful to
know what they are, especially if something goes wrong.

> Right Side: a simple message on connectivity and last update time of that
> account. Connected or Disconnected, Updated at 10:20. Connection Error.
> Again, clicking it will reveal details.

That could be useful.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Muting Error Messages in main window

[Emre Erenoglu]

On Monday, October 24, 2016, Milan Crha  wrote:

> it used to be "less intrusive" in the past, in a very similar way you
> outlined above, hiding the message in the status bar. Not many people
> knew that they can get any details about the error at all.
>

Then I would wish it remained like that. Actually, the bottom bar of
current Evolution is, in my humble opinion, bombarding user with messages
(ie when downloading lots of messages), which are never really read.
I would rather opt for a status bar with:

Left Side: A single line with real status messages, Fetching Message
561/12544 for example. or like out look "all folders up to date", "folder
being updated". etc. Clicking it could bring a window with all log messages.

Right Side: a simple message on connectivity and last update time of that
account. Connected or Disconnected, Updated at 10:20. Connection Error.
Again, clicking it will reveal details.

If you have access to any Outlook, 2007 or later, I would recommend to have
a look at that. Never displays any workflow breaking, or screen estate
steling messages to the user on main widow, even if there are errors.

What I aimed for was a change in the evolution-activesync to use
> GNetworkMonitor (or better ENetworkMonitor from eds) to check first
> that the destination server is available and only if it is then do the
> network I/O, which can eventually fail, but with other error message
> than the one you see. The IMAPx and other remote accounts do that, and
> you get that "online/offline" icon in the folder tree for them.


OK, that would be an improvement. In other cases, although my
"Evolution-Activesync" displays errors (ie can't fetch message, can't
login, username/password error, etc.), actually there's no error and
clicking another message starts downloading and showing it. You can then
click the "error generating message" and it magically shows as well. Not
sure what's going on there. (looks like some kind of microsecond timeout
limit, etc.)

Thanks,
Emre


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Re: [Evolution] Newbie-questions

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 10:17 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote:
> If Evolution hasn't yet, just sit down and document all of the file
> locations and DConf / GSettings keys.

As already pointed out, push F1 and Ctrl+F, then search for "back" and
you'll get

"Back up and restore"

It mentions that you anyway need to backup bogofilter and spamassasin
directories separately, which make sense, since they are shared by
several apps. I for example use bogofilter with Claws and Evolution.

On the bottom there is a link to

"Data storage locations
This is only interesting for advanced users who want to debug problems.
Evolution 3.6 and later stores its data according to the XDG Base
Directory Specification. By default this means:
The user's data files
$HOME/.local/share/evolution
Various configuration and state files
$HOME/.config/evolution
Account settings
$HOME/.config/evolution/sources
Disposable data caches
$HOME/.cache/evolution
Configuration settings in GSettings
$HOME/.config/dconf"

A backup of .cache isn't needed.

I'm neither a fan of dconf, nor do I use gesettings, but it has got a
help option and a man page, if you really want to 'get' the values.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ gsettings list-schemas | grep evolution
org.gnome.evolution.shell
org.gnome.evolution.plugin.face-picture
[snip]
org.gnome.evolution.mail
[snip]
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ gsettings list-keys org.gnome.evolution.mail
composer-magic-smileys
composer-use-outbox
[snip]
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail
composer-magic-smileys
false

My backup strategy is to backup /home completely, using cp -pr or cp -a,
resp. tar or tar -xattrs. I don't know if attributes are really
important, restoring from backups that didn't care for attributes never
caused an issue for me. Since I'm using a rolling release I don't have
to mess about distro releases. You could use rsync or what ever else,
but IMO it makes sense to copy the complete home directory.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] Newbie-questions

[Milan Crha]

On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 10:17 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote:
> Because _nobody does that_. None of the distro personal backup tools
> do it. Absolutely none of the system-level backup tools do it. What,
> would it log into each user account, open Evolution and use File:
> Backup/Restore? Nope.

Hi,
I do not think it's "nobody does that", really.

The logging in as a user is good to preserver file/directory attributes
in the backup file. Otherwise you can run it with properly modified XDG
variables and you'll get there (modulo file/directory
attributes/permissions).

As the evolution itself should be off when doing the backup, the menu
runs an external tool, which is called with some arguments:
   /usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup
Actual path can differ, depending on the distribution.

> If Evolution hasn't yet, just sit down and document all of the file
> locations and DConf / GSettings keys.
>
> I'm fairly sure that's already been done but I haven't looked at the
> docs lately.

Yes, you are right.
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html.en

> And as I recall Evolution's Backup/Restore isn't even useful as an
> upgrade strategy since no one guarantees a newer version can load an
> older backup file.

This is not accurate. Evolution itself, but also evolution-data-server
services, has a migration facility from older versions to newer (doing
the opposite (aka migrate for downgrade) is nearly impossible,
definitely in the general case). It's true that there had been done a
cut in the migration, I do not recall precisely, I think one cannot
update in pre-3.0 versions, but otherwise the code is not removed. That
way you can for example update/restore backups which still use GConf,
and it was removed several versions back.

The thing is that the backup/restore works like system updates. It
backups/restores the user's home directory content to the state in that
particular version, thus if anything goes wrong, one is still able to
go back. There is not much difference between restoring from a backup
and updating the system for the evolution.

In any case, nobody said that there is not a better tool for
backup/restore. This is one offered directly in the evolution, hoping
to be useful. If you do not find it useful, then that's okay. Users
have always an option, which is good.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Newbie-questions

[Zan Lynx]

On 10/24/2016 04:52 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> There is a backup/restore feature built into Evolution - File: backup /
> restore.  Use that.  Where Evolution does / does-not store information
> is not something a user should need to know and may change between
> versions.

Every time you recommend this I think, "Are you serious?"

Because _nobody does that_. None of the distro personal backup tools do
it. Absolutely none of the system-level backup tools do it. What, would
it log into each user account, open Evolution and use File:
Backup/Restore? Nope.

If Evolution hasn't yet, just sit down and document all of the file
locations and DConf / GSettings keys.

I'm fairly sure that's already been done but I haven't looked at the
docs lately.

And as I recall Evolution's Backup/Restore isn't even useful as an
upgrade strategy since no one guarantees a newer version can load an
older backup file. A situation that happens on, oh, EVERY SINGLE DISTRO
UPDATE EVER. Especially the 5 year LTS release upgrades.

Why even have the option in the menus? It's nearly useless!
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[Evolution] Can't move emails to folder using IMAP and MS Exchange 2013

[Christoph Haas]

Dear list,

I'm frustrated with Thunderbird's performance and would like to migrate
to Evolution. It works very well with Dovecot over IMAP. But at the
office we use MS Exchange 2013. IMAP generally works but I cannot move
emails between folders. I have searched different bug trackers (Gnome,
Debian, Ubuntu) but I couldn't find anything useful. So before trying to
craft a proper bug report I'd like to ask around for other users'
experience with Exchange 2013.

Whenever I try to move an email from one folder to another I get an
error message at the top reading:

---snip-
Error while moving message into folder INBOX.
Error moving messages: unexpected server response:
---snap-

I could imagine that the Exchange server is not speaking proper IMAP.
When moving messages I have just gathered the debug output of Evolution
when speaking to Dovecot (works) and Exchange (fails).

Dovecot:

[imapx:A] Got completion response for command 01477 'SELECT'
[imapx:A] camel_imapx_server_process_command_sync: 0x555a93ee1ea0 ~>
(nil); success:1 local-error:[null] result:OK status-text:'Select
completed (0.000 secs).'
[imapx:A] adding command, format = 'UID MOVE '
[imapx:A] uidset add '14402'
[imapx:A]  start
[imapx:A] adding command, format = '%d'
[imapx:A] got gint '14402'
[imapx:A] adding command, format = ' %M'
[imapx:A] completing command buffer is [25] 'UID MOVE 14402 INBOX.misc'
[imapx:A] camel_imapx_server_process_command_sync: (nil) () ~>
0x555a93ffbc60 (MOVE_MESSAGE)
[imapx:A] Starting command ( literal) A01478 UID MOVE 14402 INBOX.misc
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A01478 UID MOVE 14402 INBOX.misc'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* OK [COPYUID 1197132089 14402 3069] Moved UIDs.
* VANISHED 14402
A01478 OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 44198] Move completed.'
[imapx:A] got untagged response
[imapx:A] Have token 'OK' id 0
[imapx:A] got untagged response
[imapx:A] Have token 'VANISHED' id 0
[imapx:A] vanished: 14402
[imapx:A] Got completion response for command 01478 'MOVE_MESSAGE'
[imapx:A] camel_imapx_server_process_command_sync: 0x555a93ffbc60 ~>
(nil); success:1 local-error:[null] result:OK status-text:'Move completed.'

Exchange:

[imapx:D] Got completion response for command 01454 'SELECT'
[imapx:D] camel_imapx_server_process_command_sync: 0x555a9480fb00 ~>
(nil); success:1 local-error:[null] result:OK status-text:'SELECT
completed.'
[imapx:D] adding command, format = 'UID MOVE '
[imapx:D] uidset add '35631'
[imapx:D]  start
[imapx:D] adding command, format = '%d'
[imapx:D] got gint '35631'
[imapx:D] adding command, format = ' %M'
[imapx:D] completing command buffer is [20] 'UID MOVE 35631 INBOX'
[imapx:D] camel_imapx_server_process_command_sync: (nil) () ~>
0x555a93e9a400 (MOVE_MESSAGE)
[imapx:D] Starting command ( literal) D01455 UID MOVE 35631 INBOX
[imapx:D] I/O: 'D01455 UID MOVE 35631 INBOX'
[imapx:D] I/O: '[COPYUID 14 35631 42359]
* 1 EXPUNGE
* 138 EXISTS
D01455 OK MOVE completed.'
[imapx:D] camel_imapx_server_process_command_sync: 0x555a93e9a400 ~>
(nil); success:0 local-error:unexpected server response: result:[null]
status-text:'[null]'
[imapx:D] Removed connection 0x555a94078160 (server:0x7eff28003310) due
to error: Error moving messages: unexpected server response:
[imapx:D] I/O: ''

So Dovecot responds with:
'* OK [COPYUID 1197132089 14402 3069] Moved UIDs.
* VANISHED 14402
A01478 OK [HIGHESTMODSEQ 44198] Move completed.'

While Exchange responds with:
'[COPYUID 14 35631 42359]
* 1 EXPUNGE
* 138 EXISTS
D01455 OK MOVE completed.'

Is Exchange doing something wrong regarding IMAP? I don't understand the
RFC well enough to tell.

I am using Evolution 3.22.1 with the evolution-data-server 3.22.1. It's
the default version on Ubuntu 16.10.

It would be terrific to learn if others have or had the same problem.
Thanks.

…Christoph


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Re: [Evolution] Muting Error Messages in main window

[Milan Crha]

On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 16:49 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
> The error message in Evolution shall be less obtrusive and I think
> such change, if accepted, is within Evolution main window.   A small
> icon and a sticky text on the bottom right corner can highlight an
> error situation and clicking it can reveal more details.

Hi,
it used to be "less intrusive" in the past, in a very similar way you
outlined above, hiding the message in the status bar. Not many people
knew that they can get any details about the error at all.

What I aimed for was a change in the evolution-activesync to use
GNetworkMonitor (or better ENetworkMonitor from eds) to check first
that the destination server is available and only if it is then do the
network I/O, which can eventually fail, but with other error message
than the one you see. The IMAPx and other remote accounts do that, and
you get that "online/offline" icon in the folder tree for them.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Muting Error Messages in main window

[Emre Erenoglu]

On Monday, October 24, 2016, Milan Crha  wrote:

> If I'm not mistaken, then it would be in the evolution-activesync. Fill
> a bug in GNOME's bugzilla against it and hope for a fix.


I'm not sure to agree with this. The error may be coming from the
Evolution-Activesync component (and sometimes from any account), but I do
not need to be bothered with this pressing a button each time. I know the
error and I expect it, since this account (and some IMAP) are not
accessible when I'm in corporate network. At least there could be a button
to "do not show again".

The error message in Evolution shall be less obtrusive and I think such
change, if accepted, is within Evolution main window.   A small icon and a
sticky text on the bottom right corner can highlight an error situation and
clicking it can reveal more details.

Br,
Emre




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Re: [Evolution] Newbie-questions

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 13:12 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Menu bar > Help > Contents   or   F1-key
> > 
> > Ctrl+F or Ctrl+S or click the search icon and type "back" and all your
> > backup related questions are answered.
> 
> Strictly yes, but maybe not what you want. The built-in backup system
> is intended for migrating all your Evo data to another machine, or when
> reinstalling your system. It's not for doing regular backups. If you
> want to backup local data, look under ~/.local/share/evolution and
> ~/.config/evolution. However make sure Evo is completely stopped
> (evolution --force-shutdown) before using these files for backups or
> restores.

From "Back up and restore"

"~/.bogofilter/"
"~/.spamassassin/"

and

"See Also
Data storage locations — Where does Evolution store my data on the
harddisk?"

is a link against

"Data storage locations
This is only interesting for advanced users who want to debug problems.
[snip]"

Regards,
Ralf

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[Evolution] Offline Messages Age in IMAP

[Emre Erenoglu]

On Monday, October 24, 2016, Milan Crha > wrote:

> Hi,
> I would try to set in your IMAP account:
>
>   [x] Show only subscribed folders
>
> and then in Folder->Subscriptions unsubscribe from too old folders,
> then enable offline download for all the folders.
>

Yes, but given November 2016, this would mean I'll have 2016 and 2015
synced, more than I need :) I would need Nov 2015 onwards (ie 1 year
backwards). Thunderbird & Outlook can define such "age" for sync.


> By the way, I do not know whether there is any such bug report (feature
> request) filled already, but if it's not, then it would be nice to
> have, because I believe other users would also appreciate such
> functionality in the Evolution.
>

Opened the below one:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773419

Br,
Emre



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Re: [Evolution] Evolution without cache?

[Milan Crha]

On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 13:25 +0200, Michael Hirmke wrote:
> Ok, if I observe this behaviour again, I'm going to ask you for some
> debugging instruction, if this is ok for you?

Hi,
sure thing. I think the most interesting would be to know which
files/data you see in the cache, but might not be in the cache, and
why. Then we can investigate what happened. It would be seen in the
communication log, like:
   $ EWS_DEBUG=2 /usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory -w &>log.txt
(the actual path depends on your distribution/installation).
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Newbie-questions

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 12:43 +0100, James Freer wrote:
> using linux xubuntu 16.04

This is not helpful - please provide the version of EVOLUTION for
discussions.  Help -> About.

Distributions are far less important than many people seem to believe.

> - can I set the mailbox to ascending order rather than descending

In regards to what?  Clicking on a header will reverse the sort order.

> - using imap. Which directory is mail and settings stored in on the 
> PC as I would prefer to do manual backups. Not sure what others do 
> but when one installs the next xubuntu update I want to be able to 
> copy the directory to remote hard drive and copy it back once new
> install is set up.

Local backups of an IMAP account don't make much sense - what Evolution
downloads is nothing more than a [potentially very] incomplete cache.

There is a backup/restore feature built into Evolution - File: backup /
restore.  Use that.  Where Evolution does / does-not store information
is not something a user should need to know and may change between
versions.

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Re: [Evolution] Newbie-questions

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 12:43 +0100, James Freer wrote:
> > 
> > using linux xubuntu 16.04
> 
> You should mention the version of Evolution.

To elaborate: Evolution runs on many Linux distros so telling us your
version of Xubuntu is not usually very helpful (only a minority of list
members will know about it). Always quote the version of Evo itself
(Help->About).

> > 
> > - using imap. Which directory is mail and settings stored in on the PC as I 
> > would prefer to do manual backups. Not sure what others do but when one 
> > installs the next xubuntu update I want to be able to copy the directory to 
> > remote hard drive and copy it back once new install is set up.
> > 
> 
> Menu bar > Help > Contents   or   F1-key
> 
> Ctrl+F or Ctrl+S or click the search icon and type "back" and all your
> backup related questions are answered.

Strictly yes, but maybe not what you want. The built-in backup system
is intended for migrating all your Evo data to another machine, or when
reinstalling your system. It's not for doing regular backups. If you
want to backup local data, look under ~/.local/share/evolution and
~/.config/evolution. However make sure Evo is completely stopped
(evolution --force-shutdown) before using these files for backups or
restores.

> However, regarding stored mails consider to read about the differences
> between IMAP and POP.

In common with many of us, I prefer IMAP to POP because I don't need to
worry about backing up my mail as it's always on the server. That also
means I can access it from anywhere, including my phone. There is no
advantage in using POP unless your mail provider doesn't support it.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Crashing when forwarding when using Wayland

[Emre Erenoglu]

On Monday, October 24, 2016, Milan Crha  wrote:

> having actual backtrace of the crash helps to identify whether anything
> similar is already known or whether you face a new thing.


> Other details also matter. For example, what is your Forward style? By
> any chance, is it "Forward as Attachment"? I cannot reproduce it
> myself, but there is the below bug report, which may or may not be the
> same as what you see (it depends on your backtrace and your settings):
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773274


Thanks Milan for your response. My forward style is like Outlook, so
inline. I updated my Arch system and I don't get this anymore. If I get it,
I'll write it and try to get a backtrace.

Emre

PS. I got other issue with Evolution in Wayland, where the Evolution main
window is totally black. I shall report this separately as well if it
re-occurs. Switched to xorg for the moment for work.


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Re: [Evolution] Newbie-questions

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 12:43 +0100, James Freer wrote:
> using linux xubuntu 16.04

You should mention the version of Evolution.

> - using imap. Which directory is mail and settings stored in on the PC as I 
> would prefer to do manual backups. Not sure what others do but when one 
> installs the next xubuntu update I want to be able to copy the directory to 
> remote hard drive and copy it back once new install is set up.
> 

Menu bar > Help > Contents   or   F1-key

Ctrl+F or Ctrl+S or click the search icon and type "back" and all your
backup related questions are answered.

However, regarding stored mails consider to read about the differences
between IMAP and POP.

Regards,
Ralf

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[Evolution] Newbie-questions

[James Freer]

Hi folks

using linux xubuntu 16.04

Just started using Evolution. I'd be grateful if someone could just clarify a 
few points for me.


- can I set the mailbox to ascending order rather than descending

- using imap. Which directory is mail and settings stored in on the PC as I 
would prefer to do manual backups. Not sure what others do but when one 
installs the next xubuntu update I want to be able to copy the directory to 
remote hard drive and copy it back once new install is set up.


thanks
james

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution without cache?

[Michael Hirmke]

Hi Milan,

>On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 10:41 +0200, Michael Hirmke wrote:
>> is it possible to run evolution without the cache for ews mailboxes
>> just like Outlook? In Outlook I can configure, whether to use an offline
>> cache or not. The main reason for my question is, that the evolution cache
>> and the "reality" in my exchange mailbox often differ, so that I have to
>> delete the cache files. This is escpecially true for the calendar.

>   Hi,
>the Outlook's "cached mode" is a different thing than what the
>evolution-ews does. The Outlook's "cached mode" for example saves
>events locally and uploads them to the server "when it thinks it's a
>good time to do it", while evolution-ews saves immediately (or the
>Outlook too, with the "cached mode" being off).

ok.

>You shouldn't need to delete the evolution-ews' cache, especially not
>the one for the calendar. The evolution-ews always asks the server
>"what changes since _some_key_" and the server returns what was added,
>what removed and what changed. The locally stored data mirrors the
>server state as reported by the server. If there is some issue with not
>removed calendar cache file(s)/event(s)/..., then it's a bug and should
>be fixed. Similarly with other parts.

Ok, if I observe this behaviour again, I'm going to ask you for some
debugging instruction, if this is ok for you?

>   Bye,
>   Milan

Thx for your answer.

Bye.
Michael.
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Re: [Evolution] Muting Error Messages in main window

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 13:04:37 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 12:17:29 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
>>What you use is 3.22.1 with
>>some pre-release patches, thus some sort of a development version of
>>the stable release.
>>
>>It would be nice to let the Arch maintainers know to not cause this
>>confusion. I do not use Arch, I do not know who they are.  
>
>Regarding Arch's 'user-centric' policy, Arch is not for inexperienced
>Linux users. IOW there is nothing the Arch maintainers need to know,
>since they follow the Arch Linux policy.
>
>Arch follows upstream, if not, then just because a development version
>fixed a really, really serious issue. The same is true for patches. So
>we could assume that a serious issue, maybe the HTML issue or perhaps a
>more important bug of 3.21 is the reason to build from git, but the
   
    This should read 3.22.1 ;)
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Re: [Evolution] Muting Error Messages in main window

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 12:17:29 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
>What you use is 3.22.1 with
>some pre-release patches, thus some sort of a development version of
>the stable release.
>
>It would be nice to let the Arch maintainers know to not cause this
>confusion. I do not use Arch, I do not know who they are.

Regarding Arch's 'user-centric' policy, Arch is not for inexperienced
Linux users. IOW there is nothing the Arch maintainers need to know,
since they follow the Arch Linux policy.

Arch follows upstream, if not, then just because a development version
fixed a really, really serious issue. The same is true for patches. So
we could assume that a serious issue, maybe the HTML issue or perhaps a
more important bug of 3.21 is the reason to build from git, but the
version provided by 'Help > About", 'evolution -v' and the X-Mailer
header was not patched.

The package version is correct and apart from this, all information how
the package was build, is available by the Arch build system tree.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Q evolution
evolution 3.22.1+8+gf95d465-1
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep pkgver= /var/abs/extra/evolution/PKGBUILD 
pkgver=3.22.1+8+gf95d465
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep source= /var/abs/extra/evolution/PKGBUILD -B1 
-A1
_commit=f95d465ae1af5ff7dcdd57e7dd465a1208162f0a  # gnome-3-22
source=("git://git.gnome.org/evolution#commit=$_commit")
sha256sums=('SKIP')

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] Offline Messages Age in IMAP

[Milan Crha]

On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 00:34 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
> Anyway, I'll need to find a workaround. 

Hi,
I would try to set in your IMAP account:

  [x] Show only subscribed folders

and then in Folder->Subscriptions unsubscribe from too old folders,
then enable offline download for all the folders.

Eventually, you already found a workaround, as you have years for
folders and each folder has its own "Copy content for offline use",
then you can select which folders can be fully cached locally and which
not and still have access to all folders (where the first option I
mentioned above hides "too old" folders, which is limiting).

By the way, I do not know whether there is any such bug report (feature
request) filled already, but if it's not, then it would be nice to
have, because I believe other users would also appreciate such
functionality in the Evolution.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Crashing when forwarding when using Wayland

[Milan Crha]

On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 10:14 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
> When I try to forward an email on my EWS account, Evolution crashes.
> Anybody facing this error? 

Hi,
having actual backtrace of the crash helps to identify whether anything
similar is already known or whether you face a new thing.

Other details also matter. For example, what is your Forward style? By
any chance, is it "Forward as Attachment"? I cannot reproduce it
myself, but there is the below bug report, which may or may not be the
same as what you see (it depends on your backtrace and your settings):
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773274

Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution without cache?

[Milan Crha]

On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 10:41 +0200, Michael Hirmke wrote:
> is it possible to run evolution without the cache for ews mailboxes
> just like Outlook? In Outlook I can configure, whether to use an offline
> cache or not. The main reason for my question is, that the evolution cache 
> and the
> "reality" in my exchange mailbox often differ, so that I have to delete
> the cache files. This is escpecially true for the calendar.

Hi,
the Outlook's "cached mode" is a different thing than what the
evolution-ews does. The Outlook's "cached mode" for example saves
events locally and uploads them to the server "when it thinks it's a
good time to do it", while evolution-ews saves immediately (or the
Outlook too, with the "cached mode" being off).

You shouldn't need to delete the evolution-ews' cache, especially not
the one for the calendar. The evolution-ews always asks the server
"what changes since _some_key_" and the server returns what was added,
what removed and what changed. The locally stored data mirrors the
server state as reported by the server. If there is some issue with not
removed calendar cache file(s)/event(s)/..., then it's a bug and should
be fixed. Similarly with other parts.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Mint 18 - Evo 3.18.5.2 issues

[Milan Crha]

On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 08:39 +0100, Michelle wrote:
> 1) Evolution isn't savng the "default" account after closing and re-
> starting the app. It sets and appears to be happy when reset, but
> possibly not, because of problem 2...
> 
> 2) Auto-forwarded mail done by rule, is not sending but sitting in
> the outbox. I have rules that filter incoming e-mail and important e-
> mails get forwarded to my mobile phone. However, after the update,
> this isn't working. The mails appear to be formatted correctly with
> the default account, but they just sit there and don't send.

Hi,
I do not know about 1), but if you think it's related to 2), then
there's an option for it:
   $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail flush-outbox true
See what it is good for with:
   $ gsettings describe org.gnome.evolution.mail flush-outbox

It can be that the update lost your settings, or there was no such
option in your previous version.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Muting Error Messages in main window

[Milan Crha]

On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 10:12 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
> I'm using Evolution 3.22.2 in up to date Arch system.

Hi,
there was no release of 3.22.2 yet. :-/ What you use is 3.22.1 with
some pre-release patches, thus some sort of a development version of
the stable release.

It would be nice to let the Arch maintainers know to not cause this
confusion. I do not use Arch, I do not know who they are.

> How can I mute this error? I don't have to see it each time.
> Alternatively, I would be just happy to see a disconnected icon on
> left folder list like an IMAP account? 

If I'm not mistaken, then it would be in the evolution-activesync. Fill
a bug in GNOME's bugzilla against it and hope for a fix.
Bye,
Milan
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