Re: [Evolution] Evolution Encryption GPG Hotmail Account Problem

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2017-07-20 at 06:33 +, adg adg82439 wrote:
> I use on my Linux PC with Kubuntu 16.04, Evolution as email program.

It's important always to say what version of Evolution as not everyone
knows what Kubuntu has. See Help->About.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Encryption GPG Hotmail Account Problem

[Andre Klapper]

On Thu, 2017-07-20 at 06:33 +, adg adg82439 wrote:
> When I answer encrypted from the Hotmail account in Evolution 
> it receives in Evolution just as a cryptic emailtxt but not with the option
> to decrypt.
> 
> Does anyone know how to handle that problem?

Hard to say what Hotmail is doing wrong without a full example message.
:) Which Hotmail options did you enable? This is webmail?

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[Evolution] Evolution Encryption GPG Hotmail Account Problem

[adg adg82439]

Hi,

I use on my Linux PC with Kubuntu 16.04, Evolution as email program.

As I try to use GnuPG encryption for email, I find, 
when I encrypt a mail in Evolution and send it from a non Hotmail account 
to a hotmail account,  it is recognized in Evolution and offered  a
comfortable  decrypt option.

This is OK.


When I answer encrypted from the Hotmail account in Evolution 
it receives in Evolution just as a cryptic emailtxt but not with the option
to decrypt.

As I do not want copy and paste the content to a file and decrypt the file,
it should be a better way, I hope.

It might be a loss of recognition when sent over Hotmail account. 

Does anyone know how to handle that problem?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: [Evolution] evolution

[Zan Lynx]

On 7/19/2017 10:17 AM, Marcin Kozyra wrote:


How would I go about moving email accounts with passwords to new 
computer? Restoring backup is not working for me.


Using fedora 26.


I believe passwords are stored in the Gnome keyring. By default they are 
decrypted with the login password.


The keyring files are stored in either ~/.gnome2/keyrings or in later 
versions like Fedora 26 in ~/.local/share/keyrings. So you might need to 
move the files if you're restoring from a very old backup.


Email accounts are in ~/.config/evolution, I am pretty sure. Really old 
versions may have it in .evolution or .gnome2/evolution, I don't recall 
exactly.


If you used Gnome Online Accounts to set them up, be careful. A while 
ago I ended up with duplicated email accounts because the hostname of my 
laptop changed so GOA decided to rebuild new copies of all of the 
accounts. I had to delete and recreate all of the accounts.


I did file a bug so it may have been fixed. I never checked since 
building new copies of everything Gnome and doing test restores of 
backup copies to new machines with different names really didn't appeal 
to me.


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Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2017-07-20 at 07:17 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 06:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > if you are using POP accounts and leave messages on the server for
> > e.g. one day, some MUAs shows that e.g. 100 messages are on the
> > server, but it only downloads the 19 or 20 messages, that were not
> > already downloaded before. 
> 
> I've always assumed this was a 'paging' thing.
> 
> > stopping to count after 19 or 20. Are you using IMAP accounts? 
> 
> I do not recall seeing it using IMAP (which I use all day every day),
> or at least not with IMAPx.

Me neither (also using IMAPx with Gmail).

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Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 06:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> if you are using POP accounts and leave messages on the server for
> e.g. one day, some MUAs shows that e.g. 100 messages are on the
> server, but it only downloads the 19 or 20 messages, that were not
> already downloaded before. 

I've always assumed this was a 'paging' thing.

> stopping to count after 19 or 20. Are you using IMAP accounts? 

I do not recall seeing it using IMAP (which I use all day every day),
or at least not with IMAPx.


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Re: [Evolution] evolution

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2017-07-20 at 12:45 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 11:17 -0500, Marcin Kozyra wrote:
> > How would I go about moving email accounts with passwords to new
> > computer? Restoring backup is not working for me.
> 
> Why not? 
> What happens and when?
> What does not happen?
> What's the error message?
> How large is your backup file?
> Which Evolution version did you use on the old machine?

Also, what kind of mail account(s)? POP? IMAP? Exchange?

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Re: [Evolution] evolution

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 11:17 -0500, Marcin Kozyra wrote:
> How would I go about moving email accounts with passwords to new
> computer? Restoring backup is not working for me.

Hi,

what exactly isn't working, resp. what errors do you get?

> Using fedora 26.

What version of Evolution did you use on the old computer and what
version of Evolution do you use to restore from the backup? IIUC you
tried to use "File > Restore Evolution Data..." or did you restore from
a /home/$USER backup?

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: [Evolution] evolution

[Andre Klapper]

On Wed, 2017-07-19 at 11:17 -0500, Marcin Kozyra wrote:
> How would I go about moving email accounts with passwords to new
> computer? Restoring backup is not working for me.

Why not? 
What happens and when?
What does not happen?
What's the error message?
How large is your backup file?
Which Evolution version did you use on the old machine?

andre
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Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong

[Doug Hutcheson]

On Thu, 2017-07-20 at 09:36 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-07-20 at 00:25 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> > Note that gmail does some funny things with its POP implementation.
> > If you keep emails on server, they are listed there... for some
> > time.
> > So even if you have 1000 messages, it maybe shows about 20 there.
> > Probably it is showing the emails read for first time less than a
> > few
> > days ago.
> 
>   Hi,
> there's a setting for it, like when you open https://mail.google.com
> ,
> then click the gear button, there Preferences, there the tab with
> POP/IMAP settings. You can choose what the server shows to the
> client,
> both with POP and IMAP.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
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Further to Milan's help, I set Gmail to only allow POP for 'mail received from 
now on' or words to that effect, and that has solved my problem. Many thanks to 
all who responded.
Kind regards,
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[Evolution] evolution

[Marcin Kozyra]

How would I go about moving email accounts with passwords to new computer?
Restoring backup is not working for me.

Using fedora 26.

Thank you in advance,
Marcin
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Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong

[Doug Hutcheson]

On Thu, 2017-07-20 at 09:36 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-07-20 at 00:25 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> > Note that gmail does some funny things with its POP implementation.
> > If you keep emails on server, they are listed there... for some
> > time.
> > So even if you have 1000 messages, it maybe shows about 20 there.
> > Probably it is showing the emails read for first time less than a
> > few
> > days ago.
> 
>   Hi,
> there's a setting for it, like when you open https://mail.google.com
> ,
> then click the gear button, there Preferences, there the tab with
> POP/IMAP settings. You can choose what the server shows to the
> client,
> both with POP and IMAP.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
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Hi Milan.

I could not understand the log, so I am grateful to you for
investigating. I have tweaked my Gmail settings and will see if it
makes any difference.

I have learnt a lot about Evo during this exercise - thank you to all
who responded.

Kind regards,
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Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong

[Milan Crha]

On Thu, 2017-07-20 at 13:09 +1000, Doug Hutcheson wrote:
> Can you shed any more light upon it?.

Hi,
if I read the log properly, then it basically shows that there had been
18 messages reported by the server, then, the next time, two new
messages had been recognized and downloaded. The GUI shows something
like "Retrieving POP message NNN" in the status bar, where the NNN is
some sort of internal ID, similar to the number IMAP shows, or even
EWS, which has pretty long base64-like IDs. This ID is not meant as a
counter of messages to be downloaded, and it never was.

Is that what confused you, or I misunderstood your claim?
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Receiving message count is wrong

[Milan Crha]

On Thu, 2017-07-20 at 00:25 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> Note that gmail does some funny things with its POP implementation.
> If you keep emails on server, they are listed there... for some time.
> So even if you have 1000 messages, it maybe shows about 20 there.
> Probably it is showing the emails read for first time less than a few
> days ago.

Hi,
there's a setting for it, like when you open https://mail.google.com ,
then click the gear button, there Preferences, there the tab with
POP/IMAP settings. You can choose what the server shows to the client,
both with POP and IMAP.
Bye,
Milan
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