Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
> > It may depend on your IMAP server and particular configuration options > > but I wouldn't count on Evolution performing better than Thunderbird. > > > > The last time I used Evolution was on Fedora 27 (so it was a recent > > build) on a test computer with a nice old 5,200 RPM hard drive. I asked > > it to load a folder of 12,000 messages and it was SO SLOW I had to abort > > and reran it with libeatmydata because Evolution was sending a > > continuous stream of fsync calls for sqlite databases. > > I assume that by "load a folder" you're referring to indexing a folder > of previously unseen messages. This is an operation you will only > rarely perform in real life, so I'm not sure how relevant the test is. > I have several IMAP folders that are much larger than this (e.g. the > Evolution list of over 17,000 messages or the Fedora Users list of over > 40,000) and notice no performance problem at all. I'm also on Fedora 27 > and my /home is on a conventional 7200rpm drive. > Yeah, there are problems with Evolution, but I've never really classed "performance" as being one of them. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 13:04 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote: > On 12/9/2017 11:49 AM, da...@thekramers.net wrote: > > I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons. > > It may depend on your IMAP server and particular configuration options > but I wouldn't count on Evolution performing better than Thunderbird. > > The last time I used Evolution was on Fedora 27 (so it was a recent > build) on a test computer with a nice old 5,200 RPM hard drive. I asked > it to load a folder of 12,000 messages and it was SO SLOW I had to abort > and reran it with libeatmydata because Evolution was sending a > continuous stream of fsync calls for sqlite databases. I assume that by "load a folder" you're referring to indexing a folder of previously unseen messages. This is an operation you will only rarely perform in real life, so I'm not sure how relevant the test is. I have several IMAP folders that are much larger than this (e.g. the Evolution list of over 17,000 messages or the Fedora Users list of over 40,000) and notice no performance problem at all. I'm also on Fedora 27 and my /home is on a conventional 7200rpm drive. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 13:49 -0500, da...@thekramers.net wrote: > I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons. I'm > involved in lots of groups, and like to keep all the emails for those > groups together, including the ones I send. One of the features I'm > looking for is the ability to specify what folder to save an email I am > sending in, at composition time. Thunderbird has a plugin that lets me > do this. It defaults to one folder (Sent), but I can choose via pulldown > to save the sent email to the current folder, or any other folder. > > I don't really understand why this is not a popular thing for people to > want to do, but I don't hear others asking for it much. If you're > involved in 4 different groups, do you let all your sent mail go to Sent > no matter what the mail is about? Doesn't that make it hard to find > conversations later? > > Is there a way to do this in Evolution? Edit->Preferences->->Defaults->Save replies in the folder of the message being replied to poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 13:04 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote: > If you have a SSD it will be fine. I had no issues with Evo 3.24 on Fedora 26 on a 7200rpm HDD and IMAP mail folders (sync'ed for offline usage) having >50 messages. YMMV. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
On 12/9/2017 11:49 AM, da...@thekramers.net wrote: I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons. It may depend on your IMAP server and particular configuration options but I wouldn't count on Evolution performing better than Thunderbird. The last time I used Evolution was on Fedora 27 (so it was a recent build) on a test computer with a nice old 5,200 RPM hard drive. I asked it to load a folder of 12,000 messages and it was SO SLOW I had to abort and reran it with libeatmydata because Evolution was sending a continuous stream of fsync calls for sqlite databases. It could PROBABLY wait until it had read the whole folder of mail before syncing. Really. If you have a SSD it will be fine. -- Knowledge is Power -- Power Corrupts Study Hard -- Be Evil ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
On 2017-12-09 at 13:49 -0500, da...@thekramers.net wrote: > I don't really understand why this is not a popular thing for people to > want to do, but I don't hear others asking for it much. If you're > involved in 4 different groups, do you let all your sent mail go to Sent > no matter what the mail is about? Doesn't that make it hard to find > conversations later? > > Is there a way to do this in Evolution? I do like to keep my own replies filled in the same folder as the rest of the thread. I perform this by setting the Inbox as the Sent folder (Edit → Preferences → Account → Defaults), and later move to the proper folder using a manually-triggered filter. Note however that this has the side-effect of making the Reply button to work as Reply All on the inbox (as the inbox is at the same time the Sent folder, and the Reply option is made to work this way there since usually you don't want to reply to yourself). It's not a big issue when you are aware of it, but it was hard to me to find out what was happening. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 20:32:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >Unless I shouldn't miss something A nice double negative mistake, isn't it? :D ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 13:49:41 -0500, da...@thekramers.net wrote: >I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons. >I'm involved in lots of groups, and like to keep all the emails for >those groups together, including the ones I send. One of the features >I'm looking for is the ability to specify what folder to save an email >I am sending in, at composition time. Thunderbird has a plugin that >lets me do this. It defaults to one folder (Sent), but I can choose >via pulldown to save the sent email to the current folder, or any >other folder. > >I don't really understand why this is not a popular thing for people >to want to do, but I don't hear others asking for it much. If you're >involved in 4 different groups, do you let all your sent mail go to >Sent no matter what the mail is about? Doesn't that make it hard to >find conversations later? > >Is there a way to do this in Evolution? Evolution does provide incoming and outgoing filters, let alone Edit > Preferences > Composer Preferences > Send account while I prefer Claws over Evolution, I'm missing several features for Claws, that actually are provided by Evolution, e.g. something banal as an outgoing filter. Usually there a workarounds, for easy to use features provided by other MUAs, what ever else MUA you are using. Unless I shouldn't miss something, the outgoing filter provided by Evolution, should do the job you are asking for. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
Hello, Am Samstag, den 09.12.2017, 13:49 -0500 schrieb da...@thekramers.net: > > Is there a way to do this in Evolution? Did you try a filter for outgoing mails? Regards -- Anca Tibor I use OpenSource! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 13:49 -0500, da...@thekramers.net wrote: > I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons. I'm > involved in lots of groups, and like to keep all the emails for those > groups together, including the ones I send. One of the features I'm > looking for is the ability to specify what folder to save an email I am > sending in, at composition time. Thunderbird has a plugin that lets me > do this. It defaults to one folder (Sent), but I can choose via pulldown > to save the sent email to the current folder, or any other folder. > > I don't really understand why this is not a popular thing for people to > want to do, but I don't hear others asking for it much. If you're > involved in 4 different groups, do you let all your sent mail go to Sent > no matter what the mail is about? Doesn't that make it hard to find > conversations later? > > Is there a way to do this in Evolution? I do not think so. You could use search folders to see complete threads: https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-search-folders.html You could set up (static) filters to move messages to certain folders: https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters.html You could change which default folder to save sent messages in: https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-default-folder-locations.html andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Save sent messages in a chosen folder
I'm looking to move away from Thunderbird, for performance reasons. I'm involved in lots of groups, and like to keep all the emails for those groups together, including the ones I send. One of the features I'm looking for is the ability to specify what folder to save an email I am sending in, at composition time. Thunderbird has a plugin that lets me do this. It defaults to one folder (Sent), but I can choose via pulldown to save the sent email to the current folder, or any other folder. I don't really understand why this is not a popular thing for people to want to do, but I don't hear others asking for it much. If you're involved in 4 different groups, do you let all your sent mail go to Sent no matter what the mail is about? Doesn't that make it hard to find conversations later? Is there a way to do this in Evolution? Thanks. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution_onion
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 11:09 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > i would like set up a pop account : it is recommended to use 995/465. > > > > - one of my problem is that i have not the operating system tor version > > but the tor updated from their own site installed in my home. > > - another is that i would like use + vpn (https). > > - and i do not know how to set up that ! > > > > It seems that evolution was built gmail/microsoft/ldap in mind : i should > > prefer something a bit more "after 2013_snowden revelation". > > It seems, actually, that you are wrong. > > > > > - is a new version planned built anonymity in mind (tor + vpn _https_ > > compatibility) ? > > In what way do you want to use "https" in Evolution? If you are talking > about TLS/SSL, then it is already in there; in the few places where a > web address is needed, just preceding it with "https" will work. > > > > > - what is your recommendations:advice pls ? > > Evolution neither knows, nor cares, how the network packets get from > your computer to the destination and back again. If your computer is > setup to route packets via Tor or VPN or whatever, then that is what > Evolution will do. If you don't know how to do that, then please, read > up on Tor *and understand what you are doing*. This list is really not > the place to discuss such things. +1 poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution_onion
> > i would like set up a pop account : it is recommended to use 995/465. > > - one of my problem is that i have not the operating system tor version > but the tor updated from their own site installed in my home. > - another is that i would like use + vpn (https). > - and i do not know how to set up that ! > > It seems that evolution was built gmail/microsoft/ldap in mind : i should > prefer something a bit more "after 2013_snowden revelation". It seems, actually, that you are wrong. > > - is a new version planned built anonymity in mind (tor + vpn _https_ > compatibility) ? In what way do you want to use "https" in Evolution? If you are talking about TLS/SSL, then it is already in there; in the few places where a web address is needed, just preceding it with "https" will work. > > - what is your recommendations:advice pls ? Evolution neither knows, nor cares, how the network packets get from your computer to the destination and back again. If your computer is setup to route packets via Tor or VPN or whatever, then that is what Evolution will do. If you don't know how to do that, then please, read up on Tor *and understand what you are doing*. This list is really not the place to discuss such things. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] evolution_onion
evolution_onion i would like set up a pop account : it is recommended to use 995/465. - one of my problem is that i have not the operating system tor version but the tor updated from their own site installed in my home. - another is that i would like use + vpn (https). - and i do not know how to set up that ! It seems that evolution was built gmail/microsoft/ldap in mind : i should prefer something a bit more "after 2013_snowden revelation". - is a new version planned built anonymity in mind (tor + vpn _https_ compatibility) ? - what is your recommendations:advice pls ? thx. evolution-list@gnome.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list