Re: [Evolution] Trash behavior
Please do not hijack unrelated threads. On Sun, 2019-02-24 at 13:11 -0800, Jeffrey Cunningham wrote: > Is there a way to delete emails without them ending up in Trash? No, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=612239 > For example, my spam filtering puts classified spam emails in one > folder and after parsing through it and deleting them, they go in the > trash which I have to then go delete again. You don't have to "delete again", you have to "expunge". > Another, perhaps similar situation is moving emails. If I move an email > from my inbox to archive or anywhere else, for that matter, it seems to > copy the email to the destination I want, and then delete it so I end > up with two emails - one where I want it and one in trash. Can this > behavior be changed so it doesn't do that? "Move" technically translates to "copy, then delete original". andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to delete single messages from the trash bin
Thanks for the replies I got to this. Basically, when I delete items in Evolution they go into this "Rubbish Bin" and it is here that I can't delete things from. And I am not "wrong". I have used Microsoft Office for years and it has a deleted folder where deleted items from the inbox, for example, go when deleted. Yes, you can set it up for this folder to be emptied on a schedule, but my other pcs and even my work pcs are set up so that the deleted folder has the deleted items in it for as long as I want to leave them and allows me to delete what I want from there. I have also used Thunderbird prior to coming here to Evolution and it also allowed me to this. What I want to do, and I was trying to do with Evolution, was go through the "Rubbish Bin" and selectively delete the crap and keep other messages there that I might come back to, leaving my inbox only with things needing attention right now. Somebody also suggested that I just select the item and delete it with with the delete key or the trash can icon. As my message said, the option to delete the message via the trash can icon is not possible as this button is greyed out. Hovering the mouse over this icon says "mark the selected items for deletion" but if I select a message I still can't delete it either by using this icon OR the delete button. So, what I want to do is selectively delete messages in the rubbish bin but I can't. Thanks for any further replies. On Sun, 2019-02-24 at 16:54 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote: > On 2/24/2019 1:16 PM, Bradley G Ward via evolution-list wrote: > > This may be, and probably is, a basic question. But how can I > > delete > > single messages from the trash bin so that I can reduce the amount > > of > > messages that are in there? > > > > I've searched the Help option which tells me how to expunge an > > entire > > folder but I can't find how to do it for individual messages. I > > can > > highlight the message but the option to mark the actual message is > > greyed out. > > Umm. There's something basically wrong here. > > Are you expecting *any* message in a Trash folder to still be there > tomorrow? In a week? A month? > > Because you are *wrong*. If there's a folder named Trash in *any* > program, expect things in there to *vanish at any time*. > > Windows OS, for example, will automatically clean up Trash files and > Temporary files if you run low on disk space. > > The Thunderbird email program will automatically delete and > "compact" > Trash folders, although it will ask you first. It will ask one time > only, if you check the checkbox to not ask again, I believe. > > Trash exists only so that you can change your mind about a deletion, > and > pretty quickly, not in a month. > > If you want to have emails that you aren't sure about deleting, > don't > put them in Trash, make a folder for them and put them in there > instead. > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to delete single messages from the trash bin
On 2/24/2019 1:16 PM, Bradley G Ward via evolution-list wrote: This may be, and probably is, a basic question. But how can I delete single messages from the trash bin so that I can reduce the amount of messages that are in there? I've searched the Help option which tells me how to expunge an entire folder but I can't find how to do it for individual messages. I can highlight the message but the option to mark the actual message is greyed out. Umm. There's something basically wrong here. Are you expecting *any* message in a Trash folder to still be there tomorrow? In a week? A month? Because you are *wrong*. If there's a folder named Trash in *any* program, expect things in there to *vanish at any time*. Windows OS, for example, will automatically clean up Trash files and Temporary files if you run low on disk space. The Thunderbird email program will automatically delete and "compact" Trash folders, although it will ask you first. It will ask one time only, if you check the checkbox to not ask again, I believe. Trash exists only so that you can change your mind about a deletion, and pretty quickly, not in a month. If you want to have emails that you aren't sure about deleting, don't put them in Trash, make a folder for them and put them in there instead. -- Knowledge is Power -- Power Corrupts Study Hard -- Be Evil ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Synchronizing message filters and labels between computers
Ángel, That will do it. Thanks a lot. Best regards,Paulo On Mon, 2019-02-25 at 00:15 +0100, Ángel wrote: > On 2019-02-24 at 17:38 -0500, Paulo Cesar G. Costa wrote: > > I am not doing bidirectional sync with the desktop since I want to have > > thatconfiguration safe from potential corruption.This allowed me to > > replicate most of my settings, and when I add a new filter inDesktop it > > replicates in the notebook.However, labels seem to be stored in > > ~/config/dconf/user, which is a singlebinary file with lots of other things > > that make replicating it via cloud likelyto be a bad idea.I did manually > > copied the labels from that file and pasted in the same file inmy notebook, > > but I would have to do this to all computers every time I add a newlabel. > > Is there a method to do this synchronization easier?Any ideas on how to > > automate this process?I apologize if I am missing something very basic, but > > I am new to evolution anddid try to find references on it. > > This is dconf (think like windows registry), not evolution-specific > You can read with dconf read /org/gnome/evolution/mail/labels > labels.txt > and write at the other side with eg. dconf write > /org/gnome/evolution/mail/labels "$( if you wan to have a look manually, you can use dconf-editor > Best regards > ___evolution-list mailing > listevolution-l...@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Synchronizing message filters and labels between computers
On 2019-02-24 at 17:38 -0500, Paulo Cesar G. Costa wrote: > I am not doing bidirectional sync with the desktop since I want to have that > configuration safe from potential corruption. > This allowed me to replicate most of my settings, and when I add a new filter > in > Desktop it replicates in the notebook. > However, labels seem to be stored in ~/config/dconf/user, which is a single > binary file with lots of other things that make replicating it via cloud > likely > to be a bad idea. > I did manually copied the labels from that file and pasted in the same file in > my notebook, but I would have to do this to all computers every time I add a > new > label. > > Is there a method to do this synchronization easier? > Any ideas on how to automate this process? > I apologize if I am missing something very basic, but I am new to evolution > and > did try to find references on it. This is dconf (think like windows registry), not evolution-specific You can read with dconf read /org/gnome/evolution/mail/labels > labels.txt and write at the other side with eg. dconf write /org/gnome/evolution/mail/labels "$(https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Synchronizing message filters and labels between computers
I have a pretty complex set of message filters and labels to manage email coming from 9 different accounts (work, academia, project-related, personal, etc..), and do it in 3 different linux boxes: 1) home desktop (ubuntu 18.10), 2) work computer (PopOS 18.10), 3) personal notebook (Manjaro Gnome using kernel 4.20). All boxes are using 3.30.1-1build1 I am trying to achieve some level of synchronization between these machines using my own cloud drive (synology drive), but could not find much information about that specific type of synchronization in the mail list or googling. I did find many threads about labels and message filters, which were extremely helpful for me to figure out some At this point, in my testing phase I am simply trying to replicate the desktop configuration (i.e. only the message filters and the labels) in my notebook with this setup: Desktop: ~/.config/evolution/ -> [cloud drive]/.config/evolution/ Notebook: ~/.config/evolution/ <-> [cloud drive]/.config/evolution/ where: -> unidirectional sync <-> bidirectional sync I am not doing bidirectional sync with the desktop since I want to have that configuration safe from potential corruption. This allowed me to replicate most of my settings, and when I add a new filter in Desktop it replicates in the notebook. However, labels seem to be stored in ~/config/dconf/user, which is a single binary file with lots of other things that make replicating it via cloud likely to be a bad idea. I did manually copied the labels from that file and pasted in the same file in my notebook, but I would have to do this to all computers every time I add a new label. Is there a method to do this synchronization easier? Any ideas on how to automate this process? I apologize if I am missing something very basic, but I am new to evolution and did try to find references on it. Thanks, Paulo ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Trash behavior
On Sun, 2019-02-24 at 13:11 -0800, Jeffrey Cunningham wrote: > Is there a way to delete emails without them ending up in Trash? For > example, my spam filtering puts classified spam emails in one folder > and after parsing through it and deleting them, they go in the trash > which I have to then go delete again. > > Another, perhaps similar situation is moving emails. If I move an email > from my inbox to archive or anywhere else, for that matter, it seems to > copy the email to the destination I want, and then delete it so I end > up with two emails - one where I want it and one in trash. Can this > behavior be changed so it doesn't do that? Please do NOT hijack threads. You started a new topic by replying to an existing one and changing the Subject line, thus polluting the thread hierarchy. When introducing a new topic, it's important to create a fresh message and not use Reply. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Trash behavior
Is there a way to delete emails without them ending up in Trash? For example, my spam filtering puts classified spam emails in one folder and after parsing through it and deleting them, they go in the trash which I have to then go delete again. Another, perhaps similar situation is moving emails. If I move an email from my inbox to archive or anywhere else, for that matter, it seems to copy the email to the destination I want, and then delete it so I end up with two emails - one where I want it and one in trash. Can this behavior be changed so it doesn't do that? Thanks. --Jeff--- Begin Message --- On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 17:04 -0600, Japhering via evolution-list wrote: > > To make this totally clear: > > Are these triplicated messages only shown in *search results*? Or > > do you also see the three copies of the same message in the > > corresponding folder in the "default view", when you have no search > > view applied? > Tripled ONLY on search. Scrolling through message list shows only 1 > copy of each message. Looking at Gmail with a browser, also only > shows one of each. I usually skip answering questions regaring the use of Gmail, for the reason below. GMail is only an IMAP server in that it supports the IMAP protocol - its internal data model bears little resemblance to a 'traditional' mail server. It seems to care little about the uniqueness of Message- ID, for example. GMail does not does not use folders, it uses "labels". Folders are emulated. This means you get occasion oddities. Does your search span multiple "folders" [aka labels]? As a message can have multiple labels it can be in multiple "folders" simultaneously - you may get multiple results [aka: the same message multiple times]. This is sort of like - if you are familiar - with CalDAV/CardDAV when a resource exists in multiple collections, something CalDAV/CardDAV fails to provide a completely rational/clean response to [one can usually 301 "Location" reply to the GET contents, but what happens in a PROPFIND is not so flexible in any cross-client compatible way]. -- Executive Committee Vice-Chair Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list --- End Message --- ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to delete single messages from the trash bin
Just select it and delete it (delete key or click trash can icon). --Jeff--- Begin Message --- This may be, and probably is, a basic question. But how can I delete single messages from the trash bin so that I can reduce the amount of messages that are in there? I've searched the Help option which tells me how to expunge an entire folder but I can't find how to do it for individual messages. I can highlight the message but the option to mark the actual message is greyed out. Thanks for any advice here. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list --- End Message --- ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to delete single messages from the trash bin
This may be, and probably is, a basic question. But how can I delete single messages from the trash bin so that I can reduce the amount of messages that are in there? I've searched the Help option which tells me how to expunge an entire folder but I can't find how to do it for individual messages. I can highlight the message but the option to mark the actual message is greyed out. Thanks for any advice here. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Change in behavior of search
On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 17:04 -0600, Japhering via evolution-list wrote: > > To make this totally clear: > > Are these triplicated messages only shown in *search results*? Or > > do you also see the three copies of the same message in the > > corresponding folder in the "default view", when you have no search > > view applied? > Tripled ONLY on search. Scrolling through message list shows only 1 > copy of each message. Looking at Gmail with a browser, also only > shows one of each. I usually skip answering questions regaring the use of Gmail, for the reason below. GMail is only an IMAP server in that it supports the IMAP protocol - its internal data model bears little resemblance to a 'traditional' mail server. It seems to care little about the uniqueness of Message- ID, for example. GMail does not does not use folders, it uses "labels". Folders are emulated. This means you get occasion oddities. Does your search span multiple "folders" [aka labels]? As a message can have multiple labels it can be in multiple "folders" simultaneously - you may get multiple results [aka: the same message multiple times]. This is sort of like - if you are familiar - with CalDAV/CardDAV when a resource exists in multiple collections, something CalDAV/CardDAV fails to provide a completely rational/clean response to [one can usually 301 "Location" reply to the GET contents, but what happens in a PROPFIND is not so flexible in any cross-client compatible way]. -- Executive Committee Vice-Chair Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No duplicate messages found.
> We use outlook.office365.com as our mail server here at work. I am > running Evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-2.el7) on my laptop under CentOS. > Sending an email from my laptop results in a copy in my local Sent > folder and one in the remote Outlook sent folder. I also use an > Android for mobile Outlook mail. When I move the remote Outlook sent > folder contents to my laptop local sent folder, sent messages are > clearly shown duplicated. Ctrl-A and "Remove Duplicate Messages" > results in the following: > > Folder “michael.duv...@concurrent-rt.com : Sent Items” doesn’t > contain any duplicate message. > > Please advise. > I think the issue here is "what makes a message a duplicate". I suspect, although I don't know without examining the code, that a duplicate is determined by the Message-ID header. Have a look at the source of the messages and you'll be able to see if the Message-IDs are identical. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
