Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?

2019-02-28 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2019-02-27 at 19:13 +, Lewis, David (INCEED, LLC) via
evolution-list wrote:
> Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in particular, know
> of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a later
> time?

Hi,
as far as I know, there is no list of extra plugins, at least nothing
official. Maybe once Evolution gets that popular as Firefox and
similar, whom deserve their own plugin page with 3rd-party plugins...

By the way, I didn't get what the snooze/defer is meant for. Is it for
sending or receiving? If sending, then Patrick with Adam are right,
it's better to be done on the server side [1], because clients can be
off, then the send time might be missed. Nonetheless, you can Edit->
Preferences->Composer Preferences->[ ] Send messages through Outbox
folder. It's not per message, it's all or nothing option, but it can
help in situations when you recall you wanted to add something and you
can do that before the message is sent. Maybe it's not even close to
what you are looking for, I do not know.
Bye,
Milan

[1] this is for SMTP: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4865
Whether Exchange Web Services (EWS) protocol allows anything
like that I do not know.

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[Evolution] view lastest message first

2019-02-28 Thread Herr Oswald
Hello,

I'm afraid this may be a stupid question, but I cannot find a solution:

After having carried out a search in the messages corpus, I get back to
the display of all messages with ctrl-shift-q (not my very favourite
shortcut, by accident I terminated evo several times...). But then the
view is focused at some message somewhere in the middle of the whole
corpus - whereas I'd rather like to see the latest messages (which
normally are sorted to the top on my evo).

Can I set "always view latest messages" somewhere?

Cheers,
Wolf  

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Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments

2019-02-28 Thread Japhering via evolution-list
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 15:27 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:51 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> Where it says "SaveAs" to the right of the attachment at the bottom of 
> the email, I was expecting a dropdown with options such as: "Detach", 
> "Detach and Delete", "Save As".
> 
> As you say, anywhere will work, but it's always good to get insights
> into what people are expecting where.  If you want, file it as an RFE.
> 

It would also be nice if the option was always present, but nonfunctional if 
there
isn't an attachment.

I read the message about it being in the right click drop down and, of course,
when I clicked it wasn't there, no indication what so ever.

So I went looking specifically for a message with an attachment .. then it 
appears.

Guess I'm too used to having options greyed out rather than removed.
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Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?

2019-02-28 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 15:14 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> As you say, there's no standard way of doing this
> and I can see it being a mess to implement in a robust way.

Agree.  As "groupware" developer who maintains a CalDAV/etc... server I
can think of so many ways such a feature can go sideways [and likely
does in GMail's case, but for whatever reason the G can get away with
anything - even breaking long recognized standards].

> But isn't that what Tasks are for? On receiving the mail, use it to
> create a Task. That seems to cover the use case as far as I can see.
> Maybe there's a case for creating a quick way to do this and calling
> it Snooze.

Agree - USE TASKS.  I have this fight with users constantly: the abuse
of the INBOX.  E-mail is a messaging platform and one's INBOX is
exactly an INBOX; for events, tasks, notes USE calendars, tasks, and
notes (aka: journals).   Those other components of Evolution are
robust.

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Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments

2019-02-28 Thread Pete Biggs
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:51 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> Where it says "SaveAs" to the right of the attachment at the bottom of 
> the email, I was expecting a dropdown with options such as: "Detach", 
> "Detach and Delete", "Save As".

As you say, anywhere will work, but it's always good to get insights
into what people are expecting where.  If you want, file it as an RFE.

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?

2019-02-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 09:06 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> Aside: A way does exist to do this, manually.  Compose the message and
> save-to-draft, don't send.  Then one can go the Drafts folder, open the
> message, and send it at any given time.  I personally use the Drafts
> feature frequently.

I think the OP meant snooze applied to incoming messages. At least in
the case of Gmail, that's what it does. The mail is effectively
deferred until a later time, and then shows up in the Inbox. It's still
visible of course, so the deferment is a scheduled activity that just
changes its status. As you say, there's no standard way of doing this
and I can see it being a mess to implement in a robust way.

But isn't that what Tasks are for? On receiving the mail, use it to
create a Task. That seems to cover the use case as far as I can see.
Maybe there's a case for creating a quick way to do this and calling it
Snooze.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments

2019-02-28 Thread Jeff
Where it says "SaveAs" to the right of the attachment at the bottom of 
the email, I was expecting a dropdown with options such as: "Detach", 
"Detach and Delete", "Save As".


But anywhere will work.

Thanks.

--Jeff


On 02/28/2019 06:36 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:

On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:31 -0800, Jeff wrote:

Thank you for your response. That's what I was looking for - didn't
think to look in the right-click dropdown menu.


It's in the top 'Message' menu as well.  Where were you expecting it to
be?

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments

2019-02-28 Thread Pete Biggs
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:31 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> Thank you for your response. That's what I was looking for - didn't 
> think to look in the right-click dropdown menu.
> 

It's in the top 'Message' menu as well.  Where were you expecting it to
be?

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments

2019-02-28 Thread Jeff
Thank you for your response. That's what I was looking for - didn't 
think to look in the right-click dropdown menu.


Regards,

--Jeff


On 02/28/2019 12:09 AM, Andrea Vai wrote:

Hi,
Il giorno mer, 27/02/2019 alle 14.19 -0800, Jeffrey Cunningham ha
scritto:

[...]
Is there a way to strip attachments in Evolution?

If I understand correctly what you mean, I usually do it selecting
"remove attachments" (translation mine, so could be different in your
language) from the message right-click context menu.

Btw, you could say what your evolution version  is.

Bye,
Andrea



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Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?

2019-02-28 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 14:53 +0100, Andrea Vai wrote:
> > > AFAIK snoozing is generally a server-side function. 
> > +1  Both server-side and non-standard [as in there is not standard
> > deferring method AFAIK].
> As I would find the idea interesting, but understand that it's
> someway not recommendable, I would greatly appreciate any further
> explanation on the matter, if anyone could give some.

Anything scheduled is, or should be, something which is performed by
the server as the server is the only thing which is always there,
always on, always connected.   A client gets closed, powered off, loses
connection, etc... therefore client side scheduling is a dodgy business
and eventually results in a confused, frustrated, or angry user who
blames the application [for what is straight forwardly a bad idea in
the first place].

As it is a [best] server side function the client would need someway of
telling the SMTP server to delay delivery.  No such mechanism exists. 
Additionally, to be useful, the client would need a mechanism to
enumerated scheduled messages and to cancel a scheduled message.  No
such mechanism exists.   These mechanisms would have to be either added
to the SMTP protocol [very unlikely] or shoe-horned into IMAP and thus
be entirely implementation, if not site, specific.  A highly
implementation or site specific feature is not worth the effort of
building into a 'generic' mail client.

Open Source SMTP servers like Postfix have a Hold queue but there is no
way for end-users to interact with that queue as you then have to deal
with all the ensuing AAA issues (Authentication Authorization
Accounting).

Aside: A way does exist to do this, manually.  Compose the message and
save-to-draft, don't send.  Then one can go the Drafts folder, open the
message, and send it at any given time.  I personally use the Drafts
feature frequently.

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Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?

2019-02-28 Thread Andrea Vai
Hi,
Il giorno gio, 28/02/2019 alle 08.40 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams ha
scritto:
> On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 12:36 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2019-02-27 at 19:13 +, Lewis, David (INCEED, LLC) via
> > evolution-list wrote:
> > > I'm using evolution on RHEL Workstation 7.6, attaching to
> office365
> > > with EWS.  Working great but there is one function in particular
> I
> > > miss
> > > from my Boomerang plugin with Outlook Web Access: snooze.
> > > 
> > > I've not found any good list of plugins beyond what comes with
> > > Evolution.  Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in
> particular,
> > > know
> > > of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a
> > > later
> > > time?
> > 
> > AFAIK snoozing is generally a server-side function. 
> 
> +1  Both server-side and non-standard [as in there is not standard
> deferring method AFAIK].

As I would find the idea interesting, but understand that it's someway
not recommendable, I would greatly appreciate any further explanation
on the matter, if anyone could give some.

Thank you!
Andrea

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Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?

2019-02-28 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 12:36 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-02-27 at 19:13 +, Lewis, David (INCEED, LLC) via
> evolution-list wrote:
> > I'm using evolution on RHEL Workstation 7.6, attaching to office365
> > with EWS.  Working great but there is one function in particular I
> > miss
> > from my Boomerang plugin with Outlook Web Access: snooze.
> > 
> > I've not found any good list of plugins beyond what comes with
> > Evolution.  Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in particular,
> > know
> > of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a
> > later
> > time?
> 
> AFAIK snoozing is generally a server-side function. 

+1  Both server-side and non-standard [as in there is not standard
deferring method AFAIK].

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Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?

2019-02-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2019-02-27 at 19:13 +, Lewis, David (INCEED, LLC) via
evolution-list wrote:
> I'm using evolution on RHEL Workstation 7.6, attaching to office365
> with EWS.  Working great but there is one function in particular I miss
> from my Boomerang plugin with Outlook Web Access: snooze.
> 
> I've not found any good list of plugins beyond what comes with
> Evolution.  Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in particular, know
> of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a later
> time?

AFAIK snoozing is generally a server-side function. I've used it in
Gmail but just through the Web interface. I doubt that there's a plug-
in for it on Evolution, though you could of course submit a Request For
Enhancement (RFE).

poc

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[Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?

2019-02-28 Thread Lewis, David (INCEED, LLC) via evolution-list
I'm using evolution on RHEL Workstation 7.6, attaching to office365
with EWS.  Working great but there is one function in particular I miss
from my Boomerang plugin with Outlook Web Access: snooze.

I've not found any good list of plugins beyond what comes with
Evolution.  Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in particular, know
of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a later
time?


-- 
David Lewis

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Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments

2019-02-28 Thread Andrea Vai
Hi,
Il giorno mer, 27/02/2019 alle 14.19 -0800, Jeffrey Cunningham ha
scritto:
> [...] 
> Is there a way to strip attachments in Evolution?

If I understand correctly what you mean, I usually do it selecting
"remove attachments" (translation mine, so could be different in your
language) from the message right-click context menu.

Btw, you could say what your evolution version  is.

Bye,
Andrea



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