Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?
On Wed, 2019-02-27 at 19:13 +, Lewis, David (INCEED, LLC) via evolution-list wrote: > Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in particular, know > of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a later > time? Hi, as far as I know, there is no list of extra plugins, at least nothing official. Maybe once Evolution gets that popular as Firefox and similar, whom deserve their own plugin page with 3rd-party plugins... By the way, I didn't get what the snooze/defer is meant for. Is it for sending or receiving? If sending, then Patrick with Adam are right, it's better to be done on the server side [1], because clients can be off, then the send time might be missed. Nonetheless, you can Edit-> Preferences->Composer Preferences->[ ] Send messages through Outbox folder. It's not per message, it's all or nothing option, but it can help in situations when you recall you wanted to add something and you can do that before the message is sent. Maybe it's not even close to what you are looking for, I do not know. Bye, Milan [1] this is for SMTP: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4865 Whether Exchange Web Services (EWS) protocol allows anything like that I do not know. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] view lastest message first
Hello, I'm afraid this may be a stupid question, but I cannot find a solution: After having carried out a search in the messages corpus, I get back to the display of all messages with ctrl-shift-q (not my very favourite shortcut, by accident I terminated evo several times...). But then the view is focused at some message somewhere in the middle of the whole corpus - whereas I'd rather like to see the latest messages (which normally are sorted to the top on my evo). Can I set "always view latest messages" somewhere? Cheers, Wolf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 15:27 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:51 -0800, Jeff wrote: > Where it says "SaveAs" to the right of the attachment at the bottom of > the email, I was expecting a dropdown with options such as: "Detach", > "Detach and Delete", "Save As". > > As you say, anywhere will work, but it's always good to get insights > into what people are expecting where. If you want, file it as an RFE. > It would also be nice if the option was always present, but nonfunctional if there isn't an attachment. I read the message about it being in the right click drop down and, of course, when I clicked it wasn't there, no indication what so ever. So I went looking specifically for a message with an attachment .. then it appears. Guess I'm too used to having options greyed out rather than removed. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 15:14 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > As you say, there's no standard way of doing this > and I can see it being a mess to implement in a robust way. Agree. As "groupware" developer who maintains a CalDAV/etc... server I can think of so many ways such a feature can go sideways [and likely does in GMail's case, but for whatever reason the G can get away with anything - even breaking long recognized standards]. > But isn't that what Tasks are for? On receiving the mail, use it to > create a Task. That seems to cover the use case as far as I can see. > Maybe there's a case for creating a quick way to do this and calling > it Snooze. Agree - USE TASKS. I have this fight with users constantly: the abuse of the INBOX. E-mail is a messaging platform and one's INBOX is exactly an INBOX; for events, tasks, notes USE calendars, tasks, and notes (aka: journals). Those other components of Evolution are robust. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:51 -0800, Jeff wrote: > Where it says "SaveAs" to the right of the attachment at the bottom of > the email, I was expecting a dropdown with options such as: "Detach", > "Detach and Delete", "Save As". As you say, anywhere will work, but it's always good to get insights into what people are expecting where. If you want, file it as an RFE. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 09:06 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Aside: A way does exist to do this, manually. Compose the message and > save-to-draft, don't send. Then one can go the Drafts folder, open the > message, and send it at any given time. I personally use the Drafts > feature frequently. I think the OP meant snooze applied to incoming messages. At least in the case of Gmail, that's what it does. The mail is effectively deferred until a later time, and then shows up in the Inbox. It's still visible of course, so the deferment is a scheduled activity that just changes its status. As you say, there's no standard way of doing this and I can see it being a mess to implement in a robust way. But isn't that what Tasks are for? On receiving the mail, use it to create a Task. That seems to cover the use case as far as I can see. Maybe there's a case for creating a quick way to do this and calling it Snooze. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments
Where it says "SaveAs" to the right of the attachment at the bottom of the email, I was expecting a dropdown with options such as: "Detach", "Detach and Delete", "Save As". But anywhere will work. Thanks. --Jeff On 02/28/2019 06:36 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:31 -0800, Jeff wrote: Thank you for your response. That's what I was looking for - didn't think to look in the right-click dropdown menu. It's in the top 'Message' menu as well. Where were you expecting it to be? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 06:31 -0800, Jeff wrote: > Thank you for your response. That's what I was looking for - didn't > think to look in the right-click dropdown menu. > It's in the top 'Message' menu as well. Where were you expecting it to be? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments
Thank you for your response. That's what I was looking for - didn't think to look in the right-click dropdown menu. Regards, --Jeff On 02/28/2019 12:09 AM, Andrea Vai wrote: Hi, Il giorno mer, 27/02/2019 alle 14.19 -0800, Jeffrey Cunningham ha scritto: [...] Is there a way to strip attachments in Evolution? If I understand correctly what you mean, I usually do it selecting "remove attachments" (translation mine, so could be different in your language) from the message right-click context menu. Btw, you could say what your evolution version is. Bye, Andrea ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 14:53 +0100, Andrea Vai wrote: > > > AFAIK snoozing is generally a server-side function. > > +1 Both server-side and non-standard [as in there is not standard > > deferring method AFAIK]. > As I would find the idea interesting, but understand that it's > someway not recommendable, I would greatly appreciate any further > explanation on the matter, if anyone could give some. Anything scheduled is, or should be, something which is performed by the server as the server is the only thing which is always there, always on, always connected. A client gets closed, powered off, loses connection, etc... therefore client side scheduling is a dodgy business and eventually results in a confused, frustrated, or angry user who blames the application [for what is straight forwardly a bad idea in the first place]. As it is a [best] server side function the client would need someway of telling the SMTP server to delay delivery. No such mechanism exists. Additionally, to be useful, the client would need a mechanism to enumerated scheduled messages and to cancel a scheduled message. No such mechanism exists. These mechanisms would have to be either added to the SMTP protocol [very unlikely] or shoe-horned into IMAP and thus be entirely implementation, if not site, specific. A highly implementation or site specific feature is not worth the effort of building into a 'generic' mail client. Open Source SMTP servers like Postfix have a Hold queue but there is no way for end-users to interact with that queue as you then have to deal with all the ensuing AAA issues (Authentication Authorization Accounting). Aside: A way does exist to do this, manually. Compose the message and save-to-draft, don't send. Then one can go the Drafts folder, open the message, and send it at any given time. I personally use the Drafts feature frequently. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?
Hi, Il giorno gio, 28/02/2019 alle 08.40 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams ha scritto: > On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 12:36 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2019-02-27 at 19:13 +, Lewis, David (INCEED, LLC) via > > evolution-list wrote: > > > I'm using evolution on RHEL Workstation 7.6, attaching to > office365 > > > with EWS. Working great but there is one function in particular > I > > > miss > > > from my Boomerang plugin with Outlook Web Access: snooze. > > > > > > I've not found any good list of plugins beyond what comes with > > > Evolution. Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in > particular, > > > know > > > of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a > > > later > > > time? > > > > AFAIK snoozing is generally a server-side function. > > +1 Both server-side and non-standard [as in there is not standard > deferring method AFAIK]. As I would find the idea interesting, but understand that it's someway not recommendable, I would greatly appreciate any further explanation on the matter, if anyone could give some. Thank you! Andrea ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?
On Thu, 2019-02-28 at 12:36 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2019-02-27 at 19:13 +, Lewis, David (INCEED, LLC) via > evolution-list wrote: > > I'm using evolution on RHEL Workstation 7.6, attaching to office365 > > with EWS. Working great but there is one function in particular I > > miss > > from my Boomerang plugin with Outlook Web Access: snooze. > > > > I've not found any good list of plugins beyond what comes with > > Evolution. Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in particular, > > know > > of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a > > later > > time? > > AFAIK snoozing is generally a server-side function. +1 Both server-side and non-standard [as in there is not standard deferring method AFAIK]. -- Executive Committee Vice-Chair Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?
On Wed, 2019-02-27 at 19:13 +, Lewis, David (INCEED, LLC) via evolution-list wrote: > I'm using evolution on RHEL Workstation 7.6, attaching to office365 > with EWS. Working great but there is one function in particular I miss > from my Boomerang plugin with Outlook Web Access: snooze. > > I've not found any good list of plugins beyond what comes with > Evolution. Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in particular, know > of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a later > time? AFAIK snoozing is generally a server-side function. I've used it in Gmail but just through the Web interface. I doubt that there's a plug- in for it on Evolution, though you could of course submit a Request For Enhancement (RFE). poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Any plugin to snooze/defer an email?
I'm using evolution on RHEL Workstation 7.6, attaching to office365 with EWS. Working great but there is one function in particular I miss from my Boomerang plugin with Outlook Web Access: snooze. I've not found any good list of plugins beyond what comes with Evolution. Does anyone know of such a list and/or, in particular, know of a plugin that will let me "snooze" or "defer" an email to a later time? -- David Lewis ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Stripping big attachments
Hi, Il giorno mer, 27/02/2019 alle 14.19 -0800, Jeffrey Cunningham ha scritto: > [...] > Is there a way to strip attachments in Evolution? If I understand correctly what you mean, I usually do it selecting "remove attachments" (translation mine, so could be different in your language) from the message right-click context menu. Btw, you could say what your evolution version is. Bye, Andrea ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list