Re: [Evolution] Evolution email really slow

2019-06-21 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 10:16 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote:
> The only other thing I could guess at is that since Evolution uses
> KHTML (I think?)

No. It uses Webkit.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution email really slow

2019-06-21 Thread Zan Lynx
On 6/21/19 5:19 AM, Graham Sawyer via evolution-list wrote:
> Hi
>  My first time on here and hope I'm doing the right thing.
> 
> I've been using Evolution for years. I recently did a clean install of
> Ubuntu mate and Evolution. When typing an email there is a significant
> lag to the characters showing on screen. Any advice on what to do?
The last time that I saw this was on a Linux system with an Nvidia GPU
and it was not running the Nvidia binary drivers.

The open source Nouveau drivers are very hit-and-miss. They often seem
to work, but are unable to raise the card's GPU or memory clock which
makes the performance really terrible.

The VESA compatible drivers are even worse.

If that might be affecting you then either install the Nvidia binaries,
which should actually be easy with Ubuntu, or use the Intel iGPU if you
have one and completely disable the Nvidia GPU by blacklisting the
Nouveau driver.

The only other thing I could guess at is that since Evolution uses KHTML
(I think?) as its display and editor it uses more CPU than a regular
text editor like gedit. If for some reason you are on a laptop and you
intentionally locked down the clock speed to, say, 800 MHz for battery
reasons then you can get behavior like very slow text editing. I know
that I have seen Gnome / MATE plugins and widgets for controlling CPU
clocks. Maybe you installed one of those and didn't realize you left it
set to Power Save, Minimum, 800 MHz, etc.

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Re: [Evolution] How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail ?

2019-06-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 09:38 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> The interesting thing is now I have 1 *.source file that has an Auth
> section for my gmail account, but doesn't have one for my G-Suite
> account. Yet, either way .. using 0auth2 fails with the same error.

Hi,
just in case, the flatpak version doesn't save its data into ~/.config,
the flatpak version runs as a sandbox, not talking to the installed
evolution/evolution-data-server at all.

> Is there any easy way to tell if my currently installed version of
> data-server was built with it enabled ?

I'm afraid not from the outside. One can run a little test program to
figure it out, but it's not needed. The flatpak version does have it
enabled.

> So I might just be confused by the current evolution version being
> listed as 3.32, but the runtimes being 3.30. or the docs are out of
> sync.

I see. The "runtime-version" means "what libraries are needed to build
& run the software being built". It doesn't say what is built inside.
There are also "branch": "gnome-3-32" in the .json file, which say what
software is built. In any case, the best is the Help->About.

I do not understand why the flatpak evolution would claim the error.
Not being it the flatpak version I'd suggest to run the
evolution-source-registry from the command line with debugging on [1],
but the flatpak version has everything fresh. I'm out of idea (unless,
I do not know, you accidentally ran the system evolution, instead of
the flatpak evolution, or when the claim comes from other application
than from evolution itself, still being it the host system application,
not the flatpak one).

> My apologies, I thought I hit group reply. And today, I noticed that
> clicking group reply does both directly to you and to the list.
> learned something new

No problem. Check the "Un-needed button" thread here, which contains
more information about the Group reply button.

Bye,
Milan

[1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging#Evolution_Source_Registry

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution email really slow

2019-06-21 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 12:19 +0100, Graham Sawyer via evolution-list
wrote:
> I've been using Evolution for years. I recently did a clean install
> of Ubuntu mate and Evolution. When typing an email there is a
> significant lag to the characters showing on screen. Any advice on
> what to do?

Hi,
it depends on several factors, one being version of the Evolution
(Help->About menu), another WebKitGTK+ version. There can be more
factors involved.

Sometimes, long time ago, there could be a problem with spell checking,
thus I'd try to disable it. You can do that either in
Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->Spell Checking tab->Check
spelling while I type, at the bottom of that tab, or by deselecting all
the languages in the message composer in Edit->Current Languages menu.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] How often should I expect OAuth2 authentication to fail ?

2019-06-21 Thread Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list
On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 19:55 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 12:22 -0500, Japhering wrote:
>
> I configured Oauth2 in Google Cloud Platform Console (created the
> token/key pair ).
>
> Hmm, I meant where you configured the Google (IMAP/SMTP) account,
> whether directly in Evolution, or in some 3rd-party software.
> Evolution
> itself asks for the token when the account is created, if the account
> is configured in Evolution directly.


Directly in Evolution

>
> Then I configured Evolution to us Oauth2 for both sending/receiving
> email with StartTLS after connecting set.
>
> The setting for Gmail is:
>Server: imap.gmail.com
>Port: 993
>Encryption: TLS on a dedicated port
>Authentication: OAuth2 (Google)
>
> With this it works properly for me, at least.


Mine reads the same and doesn't work :-(

>
> So since 14/6/19, I haven't been able to connect with Oauth2.  When I
> do get an error message it is the "Failed to authenticate: Data
> source
> “” does not support OAuth 2.0 authentication" message.
>
> Could you search in ~/.config/evolution/sources/ for all .source
> files
> which contain the email address from the error message, and see what
> value a Method key of an [Authentication] section of those files is
> set
> to, please? It might be like this:
>
>[Authentication]
>Host=imap.gmail.com
>Method=Google
>Port=993
>User=


I currently have 3 of about 60 *.source files that contain authentication
sections that look just like that.

This morning, since this machine has been through a series of updates
without reloading Mint 17.x -> 18.x -> 19.1, I created an evolution backup
and uninstalled evolution, then reinstalled and loaded from the
backup.

The interesting thing is now I have 1 *.source file that has an Auth
section for my gmail account, but doesn't have one for my G-Suite account.
Yet, either way .. using 0auth2 fails with the same error.

Failed to authenticate: Data source “” does not support OAuth 2.0
authentication

> where the 'Method=Google' means "OAuth2 against a Google server".
> Having the account configured with GNOME Online Accounts, it would be
> 'Method=OAuth2'. There are some restrictions on the OAuth2 for
> accounts
> configured in Evolution, it requires evolution-data-server to be
> compiled with that enabled. When it is, a web page with login to the
> Google server is shown when the token expires.


Is there any easy way to tell if my currently installed version of
data-server was built with it enabled ?

> Any changes in those underlying files might be done when the
> evolution-source-registry process is not running, which can be tricky
> to achieve in certain situations (under certain desktop
> environments).
> You can run that process from a terminal too, maybe it writes
> something
> interesting there.
>
>
> I saw some issues in Bugzilla that suggested it might be related to
> bug in the version I'm using so I built the 3.30 version of the
> flatpak based on the info on the Evolution-flatpak page.
>
> Current stable series is 3.32. Why did you build 3.30? At least the
> steps described here:
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Flatpak
> are referring to Evolution 3.32 series. You do not need to compile
> it,
> though, as you can get quite recent version from Flathub too.


I say 3.30, because a) that is the version listed in the commands listed on
the evolution-flatpak page and b) in the json file used
by the flatpak system "runtime-version" : "3.30".

So I might just be confused by the current evolution version being listed
as 3.32, but the runtimes being 3.30. or the docs are out of
sync.

>
> Same failure to connect but NO error messages or dialogs.
>
> You can verify you run correct version in Help->About of the
> Evolution.
> Maybe, the page mentions 3.30 of the GNOME Platform/SDK, but it
> doesn't
> claim what version of Evolution it actually builds, which may be
> confusing.


About says 3.32.4 (flatpak gitc51c64f).

Interesting, when I first start the flatpak, I get the

Failed to authenticate: Data source “” does not support OAuth 2.0
authentication

message, but once I close the message dialog, I never get it again. So
short of paying attention to the connection icon next to each account,
there is no indication that anything is not working.


> Bye,
> Milan
>
> P.S.: Feel free to reply only to the list (Ctrl+L in Evolution), I am
> subscribed and I do reply to your messages through the list, not to
> you
> directly, too.


My apologies, I thought I hit group reply. And today, I noticed that
clicking group reply does both directly to you and to the list. learned
something new

>



On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 7:27 AM Milan Crha via evolution-list <
evolution-list@gnome.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 2019-06-19 at 16:38 -0500, Japhering wrote:
> >Failed to authenticate: Data source “” does not
> > support OAuth 2.0 authentication
>
> Hi,
> that's an error message from 

[Evolution] Evolution email really slow

2019-06-21 Thread Graham Sawyer via evolution-list
Hi
 My first time on here and hope I'm doing the right thing.

I've been using Evolution for years. I recently did a clean install of
Ubuntu mate and Evolution. When typing an email there is a significant lag
to the characters showing on screen. Any advice on what to do?

Regards
Graham
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