Re: [Evolution] Force emails for certain senders to view as plain text

2020-10-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 20:14 +0200, Douglas Summers via evolution-list
wrote:
> is there any way for Evolution to allow me to view an email
> as plain text, no matter what format it was written in?

Hi,
you cannot do it per sender (as the thread subject says), you can do it
only globally, in Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->HTML Messages->
Plain Text Mode.

The 3.40 will have an improvement for HTML-only mails:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/353

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Force emails for certain senders to view as plain text

2020-10-01 Thread Douglas Summers via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 13:58 -0500, Matt Connell wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 18:42 +, Douglas Summers via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > Hmmm...I've tried about 30 different emails, both sent and
> > received,
> > and that option never comes up. I'm using v3.38, by the way.
> 
> Pretty sure it only shows when an email has both parts.  A message
> can
> be HTML, plain, or both.
> 
> Attached is what it looks like on 3.36.5, on a message that has both
> parts.
> 
OK, thanks for that.
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Re: [Evolution] Force emails for certain senders to view as plain text

2020-10-01 Thread Matt Connell
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 18:42 +, Douglas Summers via evolution-list
wrote:
> Hmmm...I've tried about 30 different emails, both sent and received,
> and that option never comes up. I'm using v3.38, by the way.

Pretty sure it only shows when an email has both parts.  A message can
be HTML, plain, or both.

Attached is what it looks like on 3.36.5, on a message that has both
parts.

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Re: [Evolution] Force emails for certain senders to view as plain text

2020-10-01 Thread Douglas Summers via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 13:28 -0500, Matt Connell wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 18:14 +, Douglas Summers via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > is there any way for Evolution to allow me to view an email
> > as plain text, no matter what format it was written in?
> 
> If you right click in the body of an HTML message, you should have an
> option to view plain text version.  This is assuming that the
> messages
> generated have a plaintext version and are not HTML only.
> 
Hmmm...I've tried about 30 different emails, both sent and received,
and that option never comes up. I'm using v3.38, by the way.
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Re: [Evolution] Force emails for certain senders to view as plain text

2020-10-01 Thread Matt Connell
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 18:14 +, Douglas Summers via evolution-list
wrote:
> is there any way for Evolution to allow me to view an email
> as plain text, no matter what format it was written in?

If you right click in the body of an HTML message, you should have an
option to view plain text version.  This is assuming that the messages
generated have a plaintext version and are not HTML only.

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[Evolution] Force emails for certain senders to view as plain text

2020-10-01 Thread Douglas Summers via evolution-list
I've created a Gmail account that is used solely for sending me updates
from various Python programs that I've written. Unfortunately, the
Python module I'm using (yagmail) doesn't seem to have an option to
send emails as plain text. I've also tried to find a setting on the
Gmail website to default all sent mail as plain text, but this doesn't
exist.

While I'm in contact with the author of yagmail on getting this
resolved, is there any way for Evolution to allow me to view an email
as plain text, no matter what format it was written in?
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Re: [Evolution] Font size in HTML mail ?

2020-10-01 Thread Zan Lynx

On 10/1/20 8:07 AM, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:

Hi,
there's nothing to be added back from my point of view. Users have the
option fully under their control now. The option is not about the zoom,
it's really about the minimum font size. Quoting from the WebKitGTK
documentation:

The minimum font size in pixels used to display text. This setting
controls the absolute smallest size. Values other than 0 can
potentially break page layouts.

Thus that Evolution forced its own value there was kind of a bad idea.


One idea I saw in a phone mail client that seemed to work well combines 
minimum font and zoom.


Zoom is applied until the smallest font is at least the minimum size. 
Everything else gets bigger. This preserves the page layout at the 
expense of scrolling, but the user is of course able to use pinch-zoom 
to see the entire message.


That might be a good option for Evolution if someone is reworking the 
HTML display code.


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Re: [Evolution] Stuck on fetching POP3 mail, how to debug?

2020-10-01 Thread Martin Wagner
Unrelated to any previous post, hence no quote:

Since I started Evfolution with debugging, it got almost never again
stuck on fetching mails. Yesterday it happened again, and since I had
the time, I just let it sit at it again. Btw: I haven't looked into the
further debugging some of you mentioned before, sry.

Anyway, after quite some time, probably two hours or more, Evolution
decided to wake up and unfreeze again. At that point it looked just
like it orderly finished its transmission.

Concluding I have to say: This is way too random for me to put any
effort into it and try to diagnose. I will look into it again if the
frequency increases.

Thanks for the many patient hints and tips.

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Re: [Evolution] Font size in HTML mail ?

2020-10-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 17:18 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> Right, it was just an suggestion but I though you had removed
> something, like Minimum font size?

Hi,
no, I did not remove anything, I only moved it in a way that users have
control over it.

> Also, I just noted that Min font size didn't really work for HTML
> mails(from Outlook), still at original size.

Works for me, with an Undelivered message notification from the server.
I tried with value 50, which made the text super-large. Remember, it's
pixels. If you are on hiDPI, then maybe the value should be larger. In
any case, the drawing is handled by WebKitGTK, thus if anything doesn't
work it might be a question for them. Evolution only sets the value.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Font size in HTML mail ?

2020-10-01 Thread Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 16:07 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click 
> links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
> content is safe.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 15:36 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > Minimum Font Size works for me :) Please add back..
> > Maybe some default zoom, like firefox has, instead ?
> 
> Hi,
> there's nothing to be added back from my point of view. Users have the
> option fully under their control now. The option is not about the zoom,
> it's really about the minimum font size. Quoting from the WebKitGTK
> documentation:
> 
>    The minimum font size in pixels used to display text. This setting
>    controls the absolute smallest size. Values other than 0 can
>    potentially break page layouts.
> 
> Thus that Evolution forced its own value there was kind of a bad idea.
> 
> The other font settings (above this Minimum Font Size option in the
> Preferences) can influence the default font size, from which are
> derived other sizes (unless the HTML contains absolute sizes).
> 
> I'd rather not add an option for "the default zoom".

Right, it was just an suggestion but I though you had removed something,
like Minimum font size?

Also, I just noted that Min font size didn't really work for HTML mails(from 
Outlook),
still at original size. Should not min font size affect all HTML mail, 
regardless
of abs. font size?

 Jocke 

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Re: [Evolution] Font size in HTML mail ?

2020-10-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 15:36 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> Minimum Font Size works for me :) Please add back..
> Maybe some default zoom, like firefox has, instead ?

Hi,
there's nothing to be added back from my point of view. Users have the
option fully under their control now. The option is not about the zoom,
it's really about the minimum font size. Quoting from the WebKitGTK
documentation:

   The minimum font size in pixels used to display text. This setting
   controls the absolute smallest size. Values other than 0 can
   potentially break page layouts.

Thus that Evolution forced its own value there was kind of a bad idea.

The other font settings (above this Minimum Font Size option in the
Preferences) can influence the default font size, from which are
derived other sizes (unless the HTML contains absolute sizes).

I'd rather not add an option for "the default zoom".
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Font size in HTML mail ?

2020-10-01 Thread Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 14:02 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click 
> links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
> content is safe.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 13:49 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > I really need to increase the font size these days and I cannot find
> > a setting that affects the contents of HTML contents. I guess there
> > should be some % number setting somewhere ?
> 
> Hi,
> if you mean when reading HTML mails, then you can Ctrl+MouseWheel to
> change the zoom temporarily, or you can limit the minimum font size in
> Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->General tab->Message Display
> section->Minimum Font Size option. Evolution used to set it, but I
> removed it for the 3.38.0.

Minimum Font Size works for me :) Please add back..
Maybe some default zoom, like firefox has, instead ?

The control+Mouse think is a bit fiddly to do every time.

> Bye,
> Milan
> 
> P.S.: a side note: Gmail seems to understand "Normal" font size as
> "small" for the rest of the world, which makes it hard to read when
> people change the font size in the Gmail's web UI. No idea whether it's
> your case too, this is just one place I noticed it with (reported to
> Google weeks ago, no response from them yet).

For it is just that my eyes are getting "old"

  Jocke
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Re: [Evolution] Font size in HTML mail ?

2020-10-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 13:49 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
wrote:
> I really need to increase the font size these days and I cannot find
> a setting that affects the contents of HTML contents. I guess there
> should be some % number setting somewhere ?

Hi,
if you mean when reading HTML mails, then you can Ctrl+MouseWheel to
change the zoom temporarily, or you can limit the minimum font size in
Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->General tab->Message Display
section->Minimum Font Size option. Evolution used to set it, but I
removed it for the 3.38.0.
Bye,
Milan

P.S.: a side note: Gmail seems to understand "Normal" font size as
"small" for the rest of the world, which makes it hard to read when
people change the font size in the Gmail's web UI. No idea whether it's
your case too, this is just one place I noticed it with (reported to
Google weeks ago, no response from them yet).

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[Evolution] Font size in HTML mail ?

2020-10-01 Thread Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
I really need to increase the font size these days and I cannot find
a setting that affects the contents of HTML contents. I guess there should be 
some % number setting somewhere ?

  Jocke
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Re: [Evolution] mail folder on external drive

2020-10-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 16:43 -0500, nsr135 via evolution-list wrote:
> want to specify that the folder into which a particular email account
> stores messages, is one that is on an external USB drive, operating
> thru veracrypt.

Hi,
apart of Patrick's question (the version of the Evolution is more
important than the version of the distribution of your choice), what is
the format of the mail directory you want to connect to, please? I
guess it's either MBOX or Maildir. You can add an account (through menu
File->New->Mail Account) of type either MBOX or Maildir (and some
other), which lets you choose where the actual data is stored.

> I cannot find the install folder

This might help, though note that is private data of the application.
If you touch it, you can break it.
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] mail folder on external drive

2020-10-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 16:43 -0500, nsr135 via evolution-list wrote:
> Long time Thunderbird user running ubuntu 18.04.

What version of Evolution is this? See Help->About.

poc

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[Evolution] mail folder on external drive

2020-10-01 Thread nsr135 via evolution-list
Hello,

Long time Thunderbird user running ubuntu 18.04.

want to specify that the folder into which a particular email account stores
messages, is one that is on an external USB drive, operating thru veracrypt.

I cannot find a way thru the gui, to select that folder, as opposed to a
limited number "in this compuer".

furthermore, I cannot find the install folder (i installed it via "ubuntu
software" the default archive) such that no matter where I do put the
storage, I can copy such files for backup purposes (I can readily ID other
programs that are installed).

Thank you for any help on both questions (or with anything else one might
want to tell me as the new user I am).

robert



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