Re: [Evolution] Evolution version 3.30.5-1.1 crashing & logging me out of Debian 10.5

2020-12-01 Thread Dennis Taylor
Many thanks Angel.  Your suspicions sound solid here as I have received
some Debian updates recently about potential issues with the X server. 
I didn't pursue them to see if this was something that might impact me.
After looking at your advice, some dots have just formed and connected
for me.  Especially the fact that the windowing systems crashes and I
get logged out at the same time.  Perhaps it is purely just co-
incidental that Evolution was the only application that I was running
each time this happened and Evolution had nothing to do with the crash
and being logged out of Debian.  I'm going to go back to the Debian
security updates I received in the past regarding X server and follow
up.

-denni

On Wed, 2020-12-02 at 00:06 +0100, Ángel wrote:
> dmesg
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution version 3.30.5-1.1 crashing & logging me out of Debian 10.5

2020-12-01 Thread Ángel
On 2020-11-30 at 22:17 -0700, Dennis Taylor wrote:
> Hi.
> Evolution has recently started crashing and at the same time logging
> me out of Debian 10.5. The 2 events always happen together when this
> takes place. I can't find a pattern for when this will happen other
> then the fact that Evolution is the only linux application running
> when this happens. Sometimes I'm simply in the middle of composing or
> editing an e-mail and then Evolution crashes and I've been logged out
> of the Debian OS. I'd love to know if anyone else has experienced
> this and the recommended solution because the nature of this problem
> seems to be unpredictable. Thanks!

Hello Dennis

Your description makes me think that rather than evolution, the
crashing program may actually be xorg (the X server). When the X server
crashes, all graphical applications will close as well, including
evolution and your desktop. It would then respawn and let you log in
again, thus the conclusion that you have been logged-out.

I don't know why your xorg would be crashing (a faulty update? issues
with the hardware/drivers?). You should be able to find on dmesg some
lines pointing to the program that failed.


Best regards

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution version 3.30.5-1.1 crashing & logging me out of Debian 10.5

2020-12-01 Thread Dennis Taylor
Many thanks Milan.  I'll start right here and see where this takes me.
Respectfully,
Dennis
On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 09:46 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-11-30 at 22:17 -0700, Dennis Taylor wrote:
> > I'd love to know if anyone else has experienced this and
> > therecommended solution because the nature of this problem seems to
> > beunpredictable. 
> 
>   Hi,it's very hard to guess what the cause is without having at
> least abacktrace of the crash. You can get it with gdb, when you
> attach it tothe running evolution and when evolution crashes you
> issue the relatedcommands. As you said you are logged out of the
> session, I'd just runEvolution, then switch to the text terminal
> (Ctrl+Alt+F3), log inthere, then run:
>$ gdb --batch --pid=`pidof evolution` --ex c --ex bt \ 
> --ex "t a a bt" &>~/bt.txt
> then switch back to the graphical console (Alt+F1 or Alt+F2
> usually)and then just use Evolution. Once Evolution crashes the
> bt.txt maycontain the information. Please check the bt.txt for any
> privateinformation, like passwords, email address, server
> addresses,... Iusually search for "pass" at least (quotes for clarity
> only), beforeyou share it anywhere.
> You said it begun recently. That may mean something updated,
> causingthe crash. Maybe the WebKitGTK had been updated to some recent
> versionsay 2.30.x, which causes some issues with drag I do not
> know howyour distribution calls the WebKitGTK package, maybe
> webkit2gtk3, orlibwebkit2gtk3 or completely differently. If it had
> been updated, thenI'd try to downgrade it.
>   Bye,Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses

2020-12-01 Thread Pete Biggs
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 22:37 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 20:22 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 15:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a
> > > second
> > > or two every now and then.  It manifests it self as being laggy when
> > > typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately.
> > 
> > Maybe also see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1221
> > 
> 
> That certainly seems to describe the issue. Hopefully it can be
> resolved soon.
> 
The last round of updates I installed on Fedora 33 included an update
to webkit2gtk3-2.30.3.-1 - the pausing has now gone away. I presume
that update did it, does that sound likely. 

My desire to throw a keyboard at the monitor has been reduced a couple
of notches ...

P.


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution equivalent of Thunderbird's folder offset?

2020-12-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2020-11-30 at 23:41 -0600, J.B. Nicholson wrote:
> I tried this but it didn't seem to work (see
> attached images from Evolution and Thunderbird).

Hi,
you can run Evolution from a terminal like this:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution

which will print raw communication from all enabled IMAP accounts. It
contacts NAMESPACE responses. While the Inbox itself is case
insensitive, I suggest to follow the case as reported by the server.
You should see your set namespace in LIST and LSUB commands.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution version 3.30.5-1.1 crashing & logging me out of Debian 10.5

2020-12-01 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2020-11-30 at 22:17 -0700, Dennis Taylor wrote:
> I'd love to know if anyone else has experienced this and the
> recommended solution because the nature of this problem seems to be
> unpredictable. 

Hi,
it's very hard to guess what the cause is without having at least a
backtrace of the crash. You can get it with gdb, when you attach it to
the running evolution and when evolution crashes you issue the related
commands. As you said you are logged out of the session, I'd just run
Evolution, then switch to the text terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F3), log in
there, then run:

   $ gdb --batch --pid=`pidof evolution` --ex c --ex bt \
 --ex "t a a bt" &>~/bt.txt

then switch back to the graphical console (Alt+F1 or Alt+F2 usually)
and then just use Evolution. Once Evolution crashes the bt.txt may
contain the information. Please check the bt.txt for any private
information, like passwords, email address, server addresses,... I
usually search for "pass" at least (quotes for clarity only), before
you share it anywhere.

You said it begun recently. That may mean something updated, causing
the crash. Maybe the WebKitGTK had been updated to some recent version
say 2.30.x, which causes some issues with drag I do not know how
your distribution calls the WebKitGTK package, maybe webkit2gtk3, or
libwebkit2gtk3 or completely differently. If it had been updated, then
I'd try to downgrade it.

Bye,
Milan

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