Re: [Evolution] Safety of removing .cache files

2021-01-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2021-01-01 at 12:18 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote:
> Evolution has so many small daemon pieces that it is almost impossible 
> to tell if it is "running" and nearly impossible to prevent it from running.

$ /usr/libexec/evolution/killev

or just:

$ pkill evolution
(after exiting the main GUI)

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Safety of removing .cache files

2021-01-01 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-01-01 at 14:43 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote:
> No. It's easily possible not to run Evolution: Just don't start it.

Yeah, right. I know for a fact that these Evolution data server bits
will access data when you least expect it. I just haven't looked
recently to see what particular data is used.
>
> >
> > You seem to mix up two very different things:
> > Evolution and evolution-data-server.
> >
> > I don't use Evolution on this Ubuntu machine. I've never configured it.
> >
> > Then I wonder what brings you to this mailing list...
>
> I have used Evolution in the past. I've even done development on it.

Then I'm even more surprised that you don't seem to know the difference
between Evolution and Evolution-Data-Server. The original topic was
about mail cache and making sure Evolution is not running, while you
posted about unrelated Evolution-Data-Server daemons (plus Evolution-
Data-Server has no background daemons for mail parts anyway, AFAIK).

> Yeah I think I recognize your name from past conversations and you
> never have been willing to understand other people's problems.

I think I understood and acceptably summarized the problem in the
previous paragraph of this message. :)

Cheers,
andre

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Re: [Evolution] Safety of removing .cache files

2021-01-01 Thread Zan Lynx

On 1/1/21 1:25 PM, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:

On Fri, 2021-01-01 at 12:18 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote:
On 12/31/20 5:19 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

It's always safe to remove cached files. Evo will just recreate them
if
needed. Just be sure that Evo isn't running when you do it.


That is quite a caveat to add on there.

Evolution has so many small daemon pieces that it is almost impossible
to tell if it is "running" and nearly impossible to prevent it from running.

No. It's easily possible not to run Evolution: Just don't start it.


Yeah, right. I know for a fact that these Evolution data server bits 
will access data when you least expect it. I just haven't looked 
recently to see what particular data is used.




You seem to mix up two very different things:
Evolution and evolution-data-server.

I don't use Evolution on this Ubuntu machine. I've never configured it.

Then I wonder what brings you to this mailing list...


I have used Evolution in the past. I've even done development on it. 
Mostly bug fixes and attempts at bug fixes. Trying to make Evolution 
work for a linux-kernel virtual folder without becoming completely 
confused or crashing with a 3 GB memory leak, for example.


Or trying to batch edit a bunch of downloaded email using Perl scripts.



And yet there are four /usr/libexec/evolution-* processes running. If
you kill one DBUS semi-randomly restarts it.

First there were "so many small daemon pieces". Now there are only four?
I can't make much sense out of this conversation so far.


Yeah I think I recognize your name from past conversations and you never 
have been willing to understand other people's problems.


If you actually know for a fact that the cache files will only by 
touched by the Evolution GUI client then just say so.


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Re: [Evolution] Safety of removing .cache files

2021-01-01 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Fri, 2021-01-01 at 12:18 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote:
On 12/31/20 5:19 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> It's always safe to remove cached files. Evo will just recreate them
> if
> needed. Just be sure that Evo isn't running when you do it.

That is quite a caveat to add on there.

Evolution has so many small daemon pieces that it is almost impossible
to tell if it is "running" and nearly impossible to prevent it from running.

No. It's easily possible not to run Evolution: Just don't start it.

You seem to mix up two very different things:
Evolution and evolution-data-server.

I don't use Evolution on this Ubuntu machine. I've never configured it.

Then I wonder what brings you to this mailing list...

And yet there are four /usr/libexec/evolution-* processes running. If
you kill one DBUS semi-randomly restarts it.

First there were "so many small daemon pieces". Now there are only four?
I can't make much sense out of this conversation so far.

andre
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Re: [Evolution] Safety of removing .cache files

2021-01-01 Thread Zan Lynx

On 12/31/20 5:19 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

It's always safe to remove cached files. Evo will just recreate them if
needed. Just be sure that Evo isn't running when you do it.


That is quite a caveat to add on there.

Evolution has so many small daemon pieces that it is almost impossible 
to tell if it is "running" and nearly impossible to prevent it from running.


I don't use Evolution on this Ubuntu machine. I've never configured it. 
And yet there are four /usr/libexec/evolution-* processes running. If 
you kill one DBUS semi-randomly restarts it.


I don't know if those cache files are ever touched by 
evolution-data-server but it is something to keep in mind.


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Re: [Evolution] OpenPGP key ID for alias email address(es)

2021-01-01 Thread Ángel
On 2020-12-31 at 16:53 +0100, Ettore Atalan via evolution-list wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have an e-mail account with several alias email addresses. I have
> separate PGP keys for both the main email address of the email
> account and the alias email addresses.
> 
> For the main email address, I was able to add the OpenPGP key ID in
> Security in the account editor of Evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1. For my
> alias email addresses, I haven't found a way to enter the respective
> OpenPGP key ID. How does this work in Evolution?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ettore Atalan

How do you have evolution configured to use those alias? What do you do
to send from them?

Best regards
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[Evolution] Duplicate contacts

2021-01-01 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker via evolution-list
Evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1
Is there an add-in or plug-in for scanning and removing duplicate
Contacts?
Cheers
Gordon

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[Evolution] OpenPGP key ID for alias email address(es)

2021-01-01 Thread Ettore Atalan via evolution-list
Hi,

I have an e-mail account with several alias email addresses. I have
separate PGP keys for both the main email address of the email account and
the alias email addresses.

For the main email address, I was able to add the OpenPGP key ID in
Security in the account editor of Evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1. For my alias
email addresses, I haven't found a way to enter the respective OpenPGP key
ID. How does this work in Evolution?

Regards,

Ettore Atalan
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