Re: [Evolution] Rules for different accounts

[Mr. J]

I did too.  The clue was they attached a question I'd posed a few
months ago that did not involve any form.  

Ira J

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 13:31 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 17:28 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote:
> > I think might be a scam. 
> 
> It is.  I too got one, but with a different spammy URI.
> 
> Don't click those links.
> 
> -Jim P.
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Re: [Evolution] Unable to launch Evolution from a cron job

[Darrell Barabash]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 16:20 -0500, Matt Connell wrote:
> My immediate guess is that cron doesn't know what X display to put
> evolution onto.

SOLVED and thank you Matt.

This was exactly the issue. I simply added "export DISPLAY=:0.0" at the
beginning of the cron script and problem was solved. That also let me
use "notify-send" to put up a warning before shutting down.

But, I'll probably put this on the back-burner. Regardless, I learned a
very valuable lesson here for running cron scripts and do appreciate
the lesson.

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 22:22 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> The wider problem is that (once again) we have to reiterate that
> evolution-backup, contrary to its name, *is not for taking periodic
> backups of Evolution data*. Its purpose is to help when moving
> accounts to a new machine, and it's designed to be run from the GUI
> (or at least from a user terminal). If you need to take a backup of
> Evolution, just use your normal user account backup system.
> Everything you need is already in your user account. That's all you
> have to do.

Thanks for that sage advice Patrick. I was trying to just automate the
"backup" button but understand that is not necessary nor desired. I
presume that in the case of needing a restoration, it would be
sufficient to simply restore the  .local/share/evolution   and the
 .config/evolution   folders?

Thanks for the help!
Darrell

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Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

[Daffy Duck via evolution-list]

Hello,

The option was checked, and now I have unchecked it, and I still am
having the same problem, at least with that particular account:

composer prefs: wrap quoted text in replies (was checked, now I have
unchecked, but same problem)



On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 18:20 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 17:00 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 11:07 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > It looks like something is getting confused by the nested
> > > blockquotes.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > that's true. I do not know what misbehaves here, but I'm able to
> > reproduce it too, when I have unchecked Edit->Preferences->Composer
> > Preferences->Wrap quoted text in replies. As a workaround, check that
> > option and things will work as they should. Or they do for me at
> > least.
> 
> Yes, that fixes it for me as well.  I'm quite surprised I didn't
> already have that set! Is it a new option or have I just missed it?
> 
> 
> P.
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Storing messages

[Ángel]

On 2021-03-17 at 22:23 +0100, Tor Harald Thorland wrote:
> It also seems like the export mbox is saving a folder or bunch of
> mails, not visually like an own mail account which you will get when
> opening / closing a pst.

In evolution exporting a number of mails to a mbox file does exactly
that: generate a file with those mails. If you want to view them as if
it was an account, you need to configure that separatedly:
File → New → Mail account, and in Receiving Email choose either
"Standard Unix mbox spool file" or -probably more useful- "Standard
Unix mbox spool directory".
This way you can create a new account which loads a mbox you previously
exported. Or, rather than going through that separate step, you could
add the account first and then move the mails there.

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Re: [Evolution] Bug copying email address into new email?

[George Reeke]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 18:11 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote:
> I also have Centos 7 with mate desktop using evolution 3.28.5
> (3.28.5-10.el7) and it works fine for me. I do not clink into the cc
> field Just hover over it and paste.
> 
> Ron

[For some reason, CTRL-L does not work with your message and
Reply-to-list is grayed out, so I am using Reply All here--Sorry]
I don't think you are doing what I was asking about--if you
are hovering over the Cc field, you are not clicking "Paste"
with the mouse.  Normal expectation is if you click Paste the
paste is going wherever the last click was, so that is why
I click Cc first.
George

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Re: [Evolution] Storing messages

[Andre Klapper via evolution-list]

Dear Madam,

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 22:23 +0100, Tor Harald Thorland via evolution-
list wrote:
> Dear Sirs,
>
> I have tried to figure out a way to save mails in a file or other
> similar to pst files.
>
> This to be able to save a bunch of old mails in an archive which I
> can put on my nas.

I'm worried about an XY problem... You could define an Archive folder
in Evo; see "Help ▸ Contents ▸ Mail Management ▸ Account Management ▸
some account type ▸ Defaults ▸ Mail folder locations". You could then
probably softlink the corresponding local folder to your NAS location
though I don't know how Evo behaves if that location cannot be reached.

Why would you want to manually save mail, in order to move old mail?

> As far as I can see it is only mbox which requires more or less an
> export / import process instead of just opening a file.

Indeed, Evolution is not a standalone single email message viewer tool
to view messages stored in random external places.

> It also seems like the export mbox is saving a folder or bunch of
> mails, not visually like an own mail account which you will get when
> opening / closing a pst.

Where to visually see an own account after which exact steps?
Do you maybe describe some Outlook behavior or such? 

Cheers,
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Re: [Evolution] Unable to launch Evolution from a cron job

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 15:56 -0500, Darrell Barabash wrote:
> I've exhausted what I can find on the web and am looking for some
> guidance. I'm running Evolution 3.36.4 on a MINT 20.1 system. I am
> trying to perform nightly backups by running the "evolution-backup"
> utility in a script called by cron. 
> 
> When this script is run from command line (as my normal user),
> everything works great and evolution restarts after the backup.
> 
> However, when run from cron (as my normal user, not root), I can see
> that the evolution shutdown works great and that the file backup also
> works. But, Evolution does not restart again irrespective of whether
> the --restart option is used or not.

Don't do that. Evolution is not designed to be run as a batch job. It
expects to have a DISPLAY, which a cron job will not have. This is just
not going to work.

The wider problem is that (once again) we have to reiterate that
evolution-backup, contrary to its name, *is not for taking periodic
backups of Evolution data*. Its purpose is to help when moving accounts
to a new machine, and it's designed to be run from the GUI (or at least
from a user terminal). If you need to take a backup of Evolution, just
use your normal user account backup system. Everything you need is
already in your user account. That's all you have to do.

I've said it before but I'll say it again: Evolution backup really
needs to be called something else.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Rules for different accounts

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 17:28 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote:
> I think might be a scam. I also got message with to a form from an
> old
> evolution e-mail asking for help that was resolved about a year ago,
> from this e-mail address. I did not open the form or respond to it.

I've placed that address in moderation.

poc

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[Evolution] Storing messages

[Tor Harald Thorland via evolution-list]

Dear Sirs,

I have tried to figure out a way to save mails in a file or other similar
to pst files.

This to be able to save a bunch of old mails in an archive which I can put
on my nas.

As far as I can see it is only mbox which requires more or less an export /
import process instead of just opening a file.

It also seems like the export mbox is saving a folder or bunch of mails,
not visually like an own mail account which you will get when opening /
closing a pst.

Please advice if there is an option whuc I have missed on Linux..

Brgds
Tor Harald
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Re: [Evolution] Unable to launch Evolution from a cron job

[Matt Connell]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 15:56 -0500, Darrell Barabash wrote:
> It would seem that some critical information needed to restart is getting 
> lost.
> But, this is only the case running from cron. From command line all is good.

My immediate guess is that cron doesn't know what X display to put
evolution onto.

As a general troubleshooting step, you can append " >>
/path/to/a/log/file.log 2&>1" to your cron job line in order to log any
output from the operation.  Regardless of my guess above, this should
give you some more information to try to figure out what's tripping it
up.

Example:

0 18 * * * /path/to/your/script.sh >> /path/to/a/log/file.log 2&>1

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[Evolution] Unable to launch Evolution from a cron job

[Darrell Barabash]

Hi Evolution enthusiasts,

I've exhausted what I can find on the web and am looking for some
guidance. I'm running Evolution 3.36.4 on a MINT 20.1 system. I am
trying to perform nightly backups by running the "evolution-backup"
utility in a script called by cron. 

When this script is run from command line (as my normal user),
everything works great and evolution restarts after the backup.

However, when run from cron (as my normal user, not root), I can see
that the evolution shutdown works great and that the file backup also
works. But, Evolution does not restart again irrespective of whether
the --restart option is used or not.

Key elements in my script:
# create a timestamped name for the backup file
BACKUPFOLDER="/mnt/backup_disk2/evolution_email_on_beeker/"
BACKUPFILE="$BACKUPFOLDER$(date +%F)-evolution-darrell.tar.gz"
touch $BACKUPFOLDER"cron-backup-started"
#
# to get a clean backup shutdown evolution first
evolution --force-shutdown
#
# perform the actual backup
/usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup --restart --backup $BACKUPFILE
touch $BACKUPFOLDER"cron-backup-finished"
#

I also tried restarting it with
evolution & disown evolution
nohup evolution > /dev/null 2>&1
and neither of them work either in cron but work fine in the script
when run from command line.

I'm not a Linux expert and am perplexed by this behaviour. It would
seem that some critical information needed to restart is getting lost.
But, this is only the case running from cron. From command line all is
good.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks in advance,
Darrell ... 

PS - this is my first post to this list and apologize in advance for
incorrect formatting or protocol.

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Re: [Evolution] Bug copying email address into new email?

[Ronald Tidwell @CA]

I also have Centos 7 with mate desktop using evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-10.el7) 
and it works fine for me. I do not clink into the cc field Just hover over it 
and paste.

Ron

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Subject: [Evolution] Bug copying email address into new email?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:04:19 -0400


Dear colleagues,

Evolution 3.28.5 (Current CentOS 7 release, MATE desktop).

This looks like a bug, and I will report it unless somebody

on this list tells me it's really a great feature or my

recent version is too ancient.  The situation:


I am writing a new email and already have "To:" filled in.

I decide to send a Cc to somebody who sent me an earlier email.

I view the old email, put my mouse over the "From:" address,

right click, and select "Copy email address".  I single click

in the "Cc:" field on the new mail, then click "Paste" in the

"Edit" menu.  The address then pastes into the body of the new

email instead of pasting into the "Cc:" field.  Curiously, if

I middle click in the "Cc:" field instead of clicking "Paste",

the address correctly pastes there in the "Cc:" field.


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[Evolution] Bug copying email address into new email?

[George Reeke]

Dear colleagues,
Evolution 3.28.5 (Current CentOS 7 release, MATE desktop).
This looks like a bug, and I will report it unless somebody
on this list tells me it's really a great feature or my
recent version is too ancient.  The situation:

I am writing a new email and already have "To:" filled in.
I decide to send a Cc to somebody who sent me an earlier email.
I view the old email, put my mouse over the "From:" address,
right click, and select "Copy email address".  I single click
in the "Cc:" field on the new mail, then click "Paste" in the
"Edit" menu.  The address then pastes into the body of the new
email instead of pasting into the "Cc:" field.  Curiously, if
I middle click in the "Cc:" field instead of clicking "Paste",
the address correctly pastes there in the "Cc:" field.

George Reeke



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Re: [Evolution] Rules for different accounts

[Jim Popovitch via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 17:28 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote:
> I think might be a scam. 

It is.  I too got one, but with a different spammy URI.

Don't click those links.

-Jim P.

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Re: [Evolution] Rules for different accounts

[Ronald Tidwell @CA]

I think might be a scam. I also got message with to a form from an old 
evolution e-mail asking for help that was resolved about a year ago, from this 
e-mail address. I did not open the form or respond to it.

Ron

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Subject: Re: [Evolution] Rules for different accounts
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 18:21:30 +0100


On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 20:16 +0300,



t...@prost-net.de

 wrote:


Here is an update of the project.



https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1GlE0xlDVSOoa-CHtZdeJvL5afhOsTd9L=download


Archive password: 




What "project" and what's "updated"? Please provide context - thanks!


andre



On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 17:41 -0600, Christopher Marlow wrote:



My question is... How do I say emails from



em...@xxx.com

 that was

sent to the AOL account be deleted without it affecting my other

accounts?



Hi,

and your version of Evolution (Help->About) is...? And the account

type

(IMAP/POP3/...) is...? These are kind of important information.


For example, the 3.30.x has in the Edit->Message Filters->

->Edit (but also under the New), contains at the top:


   Rule name: 

   Rule type: [ Incoming  v ]  For Account: [ Any v ]


which answers your question.


Alternatively, older versions contain a Condition "Source Account",

which does the same.


The actual account type can influence this in a sense that users

can

disable filtering of messages for IMAP accounts, but I agree it's

not

that useful information in this case, because you already said that

filtering as such works for you. I think there had been some issue

with

POP3 accounts not recognizing source account properly, but I can be

wrong; I do not have any pointers handy for it.

Bye,

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Re: [Evolution] Rules for different accounts

[Andre Klapper via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 20:16 +0300, t...@prost-net.de wrote:
> Here is an update of the project.
> https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1GlE0xlDVSOoa-CHtZdeJvL5afhOsTd9L=download
> Archive password: 
>

What "project" and what's "updated"? Please provide context - thanks!

andre

> On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 17:41 -0600, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > > My question is... How do I say emails from em...@xxx.com that was
> > > sent to the AOL account be deleted without it affecting my other
> > > accounts?
> >
> > Hi,
> > and your version of Evolution (Help->About) is...? And the account
> > type
> > (IMAP/POP3/...) is...? These are kind of important information.
> >
> > For example, the 3.30.x has in the Edit->Message Filters-> > one>
> > ->Edit (but also under the New), contains at the top:
> >
> >    Rule name: 
> >    Rule type: [ Incoming  v ]  For Account: [ Any v ]
> >
> > which answers your question.
> >
> > Alternatively, older versions contain a Condition "Source Account",
> > which does the same.
> >
> > The actual account type can influence this in a sense that users
> > can
> > disable filtering of messages for IMAP accounts, but I agree it's
> > not
> > that useful information in this case, because you already said that
> > filtering as such works for you. I think there had been some issue
> > with
> > POP3 accounts not recognizing source account properly, but I can be
> > wrong; I do not have any pointers handy for it.
> > Bye,
> > Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Rules for different accounts

[tom]

Here is an update of the project.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1GlE0xlDVSOoa-CHtZdeJvL5afhOsTd9L=download
Archive password: 

On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 17:41 -0600, Christopher Marlow wrote:
>> My question is... How do I say emails from em...@xxx.com that was
>> sent to the AOL account be deleted without it affecting my other
>> accounts?
>
>   Hi,
>and your version of Evolution (Help->About) is...? And the account type
>(IMAP/POP3/...) is...? These are kind of important information.
>
>For example, the 3.30.x has in the Edit->Message Filters->
>->Edit (but also under the New), contains at the top:
>
>Rule name: 
>Rule type: [ Incoming  v ]  For Account: [ Any v ]
>
>which answers your question.
>
>Alternatively, older versions contain a Condition "Source Account",
>which does the same.
>
>The actual account type can influence this in a sense that users can
>disable filtering of messages for IMAP accounts, but I agree it's not
>that useful information in this case, because you already said that
>filtering as such works for you. I think there had been some issue with
>POP3 accounts not recognizing source account properly, but I can be
>wrong; I do not have any pointers handy for it.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Can't authenticate yahoo imap

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2020-11-19 at 08:47 +1300, M via evolution-list wrote:
> Yahoo have switched to Oauth. You need to change that setting in
> Evolution, or follow the instructions they sent out about using a 1-
> time password or other options. 

Hi,
just for the record and history, I received an approval from the
Verizon Media for the mail, CalDAV and CardDAV scopes of their OAuth2,
thus it can be added to the evolution/-data-server. I opened [1] for
this. See it for any further updates.

An interesting thing is that this makes the experience close to the
Google, adding Calendars, Tasks and Contacts beside the Mail account,
just by filling @ymail.com address and keeping everything else in its
defaults.
Bye,
Milan

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/issues/317

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Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 11:09 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 10:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > I'd missed it too. I think the problem is that when new features appear
> > in Evolution we often don't notice them unless there's a specific
> > announcement.
> 
>   Hi,
> that's true. One of the main places for such "announcements" is the
> NEWS file. There is written what had been done for the release. It's
> not advertised loudly in any other way.
> 
> From the funny part of this particular option, it's part of the GUI.
> Guess how many hidden option in GSettings/DConf are, which can fine-
> tune the behavior of the application in many ways. ;)
> 
> With new options, there's usually chosen a sane default, mostly to not
> change the behavior to the current users, unless it's desired to change
> it. The defaults do not work once the user changes the value.
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Whaat? Från the GUI? Where??


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Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

[Patrick O'Callaghan via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 11:09 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 10:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > I'd missed it too. I think the problem is that when new features
> > appear
> > in Evolution we often don't notice them unless there's a specific
> > announcement.
> 
> Hi,
> that's true. One of the main places for such "announcements" is the
> NEWS file. There is written what had been done for the release. It's
> not advertised loudly in any other way.
> 
> From the funny part of this particular option, it's part of the GUI.
> Guess how many hidden option in GSettings/DConf are, which can fine-
> tune the behavior of the application in many ways. ;)
> 
> With new options, there's usually chosen a sane default, mostly to
> not
> change the behavior to the current users, unless it's desired to
> change
> it. The defaults do not work once the user changes the value.

Makes me wonder what else I've missed, especially as many of these
things are not mentioned in the Help.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 10:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan via evolution-
list wrote:
> I'd missed it too. I think the problem is that when new features appear
> in Evolution we often don't notice them unless there's a specific
> announcement.

Hi,
that's true. One of the main places for such "announcements" is the
NEWS file. There is written what had been done for the release. It's
not advertised loudly in any other way.

>From the funny part of this particular option, it's part of the GUI.
Guess how many hidden option in GSettings/DConf are, which can fine-
tune the behavior of the application in many ways. ;)

With new options, there's usually chosen a sane default, mostly to not
change the behavior to the current users, unless it's desired to change
it. The defaults do not work once the user changes the value.
Bye,
Milan


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Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

[Patrick O'Callaghan via evolution-list]

On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 08:33 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 19:20 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > Is it a new option or have I just missed it?
> 
> Hi,
> it's there for a long time, can be years, so you've just missed it.

I'd missed it too. I think the problem is that when new features appear
in Evolution we often don't notice them unless there's a specific
announcement.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 19:20 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Is it a new option or have I just missed it?

Hi,
it's there for a long time, can be years, so you've just missed it.
Bye,
Milan

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