Re: [Evolution] How to change the font of message list and how do I prefer text mail

2022-07-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Wed, 2022-07-20 at 00:32 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> I'd like to get my emails in text form

Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Preferences -> by "HTML Mode" select one of
the "plain text" options.

If you select "Only ever show plain text" the HTML part is shown as an
attachment. Double click the HTML attachment to open it in a web browser
or right click and select something else.

Regards,
Ralf
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Re: [Evolution] Seeing subfolders in searches?

2022-07-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi,

right click in the "From, Subject, Date..." bar -> Add a Column... ->
left click and hold "Location" to move it where you want it in the
"From, Subject, Date..." bar.

To get rid of it right click in the "From, Subject, Date..." bar ->
Customize Current View... -> Fields Shown... -> uncheck "Location".

Regards,
Ralf
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[Evolution] Seeing subfolders in searches?

2022-07-19 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

I couldn't find the answer to this in the Evolution help system or on the
Internet...

I performed a search on a whole folder tree. The results didn't indicate which
subfolder each message resided in. How do I enable a view to show me the exact
subfolder each message is in?

Thanks,

SteveT
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[Evolution] How to change the font of message list and how do I prefer text mail

2022-07-19 Thread Steve Litt
Hi everyone,

I just switched to Evolution last night and am still having growing pains.

My vision is so bad I need to set my message font at 13 point, so I need all the
screen real estate I can get. So far I removed the status bar, the tool bar, 
and the
todo bar.

When I get an HTML email, its font is usually too big, but sometimes too small. 
I'd
like to get my emails in text form, and then if I want, click something or 
hotkey to
see it in HTML. How can do that?

Also, I've found how to change the message font, and how to change the message
header font, but I can't find the way to change the font of the message list or 
the
folder list (on the left). How can I do that?

Lastly, thanks for making Evolution. I've never had such an easy transition 
between
email clients as I'm having with Evolution.

Thanks,

SteveT
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Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 11:48 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 03:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > See "Help  Contents  Common Other Questions and Problems 
> > > Customizing tool bar and menu items".
> > 
> > Thanks Andre! Using your instructions I was able to use "n" as the
> > hotkey for next email instead of Ctrl+PgDn, and "p" for previous
> > email
> > instead of Ctrl+PgUp. 
> 
> I've never seen those Ctrl keys used in that way. Is that how your
> keyboard accesses the arrow keys?

Yes it was, the way Evolution came from the factory. I replaced them
with n and p.

> 
> The standard keys are Up and Down arrows for previous and Next
> message, '.' or ']' for next unread message and ',' or '[' for
> previous unread message. This is in the on-line Help.

I get a lot of email per day, like probably 200-300 non-spams and a
heck of a lot more spam. Being a touch typist, I prefer not to take my
hands of typists home position to do anything as frequent as next and
previous, hence my replacement. Reaching for an arrow key every time
would waste a lot of my time.

The good news is, except for intermittent problems where the list
forgets to scroll, n and p work perfectly.


By the way, if anybody listening is a newbie, I'd highly advise you to
back up all versions of your ~/.config/evolution/accels before any
modification, because Evolution tampers with the file every time it
runs. For instance, if you change a hotkey from F10 to q and
comment out the F10 line for future reference, the next time Evolution
runs it will delete the commented F10 line because there's a q
for the same thing. Don't save info by commenting.

And of course, as all the documentation warns, be sure to quit all
instances of Evolution before either backing up or modifying
~/.config/evolution/accels.

I have a shellscript, called bupsky, that's perfect for these pre-edit
backups:

===
#!/bin/sh

buptrunk=/scratch/bup
curdir=$(pwd | sed -e "s/.*\///")
bupdir=$buptrunk/$curdir
now=$(date +%Y%m%d_%H_%M_%S)
src=../$curdir
dst=$bupdir/${curdir}_$now

if test ! -d $bupdir; then
mkdir $bupdir
fi

cp -RpL $src $dst
#ls -ltr $bupdir | tail -n 4
echo backup written to $dst
===

The preceding gives each backup tree a handy mmdd_hh_mm_ss
timestamp so you never worry about backups overwriting each other, and
you can always delete old ones when necessary.

Doubtlessly you'll want to change the location of $buptrunk to
something meeting your own system'd directory structure.

SteveT

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Re: [Evolution] Is this a bogofilter issue rather than evolution?

2022-07-19 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 16:24 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote:
> Good afternoon all,
> Evolution 3.40.4 - Fedora 34/Gnome.

You are running ancient unsupported insecure software.
Please upgrade your distribution for your own safety.

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Re: [Evolution] Is this a bogofilter issue rather than evolution?

2022-07-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 16:24 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote:
> Any ideas if the issue is bogofilter not filtering or Evolution not
> dealing with the filtered mail?

Hi,
that's hard to guess. You can run evolution as:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=junk,filters evolution

To see few details about filtering. Whether it'll help to know the root
cause or not I cannot tell. I've no idea of the bogofilter internals,
I'm sorry.

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread George Reeke
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 04:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> 
> Thanks Pete. I indeed found the deleted messages in my Trash folder,
> but there was no way I could see to undelete them via a left click on
> the message or the message dropdown menu.
> 
> How do I undelete them from the trash?
> 
In my older evolution, undelete is in the Edit menu with shortcut
shift-ctrl-d, not the Messages menu.  That never made sense to me
but maybe it is there in your version.
George Reeke

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[Evolution] Is this a bogofilter issue rather than evolution?

2022-07-19 Thread Steve T via evolution-list
Good afternoon all,
Evolution 3.40.4 - Fedora 34/Gnome.

I have junk filtering turned on and am using bogofilter. I get junk
mail filtered out on a regular basis (not sure whether that is junk
marked before it reaches my laptop or not), but have a problem with one
particular mail source. It seems like every day I get Emails from one
particular email address that does not get flagged/seen as spam, so
each day I manually mark those mails as junk. I thought at first it was
just bogofilter taking time learning, but this has been going on for
weeks. The bogofilter wordlist.db in ~/.bogofilter seems to carry a few
entries for this email address - eg:
email.sprintmail.kmdal.com 54 0 20220719
from:sprintmail.kmdal.com 54 0 20220719
head:sprintmail.kmdal.com 54 0 20220719
rcvd:sprintmail.kmdal.com 22 0 20220614

...I can't find a definitive definition for wordlist.db, so am not
entirely sure what the numbers are, but would guess at bad count,good
count, date?

I know I'm on an old version (I'm just moving up to Fedora 36 and
whatever version of Evolution that carries).

Any ideas if the issue is bogofilter not filtering or Evolution not
dealing with the filtered mail?

Steve
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Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 03:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > See "Help  Contents  Common Other Questions and Problems 
> > Customizing tool bar and menu items".
> 
> Thanks Andre! Using your instructions I was able to use "n" as the
> hotkey for next email instead of Ctrl+PgDn, and "p" for previous
> email
> instead of Ctrl+PgUp. 

I've never seen those Ctrl keys used in that way. Is that how your
keyboard accesses the arrow keys?

The standard keys are Up and Down arrows for previous and Next message, '.' or 
']' for next unread message and ',' or '[' for previous unread message. This is 
in the on-line Help.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 09:32 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > How do I undelete them from the trash?
> > 
> Dunno. I thought it kept a record of where they came from to allow
> undelete, but I don't use a real trash so can't tell.

Hi,
it (IMAPx) doesn't remember where the message came from, that won't
work when accessing the account from multiple applications or devices.
The undelete in the real Trash folder is supposed to undelete to the
account's Inbox folder.

I see the Undelete is missing in the context menu of a message stored
in the real Trash folder. That's a bug, I'm sure it used to work in the
past. Someone may fill it against Evolution.

> I presume you'll have to drag them from trash back to where they
> came from.

That seems to work as a workaround.

> I would probably advise that you don't use a real trash folder

I'm afraid that's not always possible. If I recall correctly, for
example Google IMAP requires the messages to be deleted into the
Gmail's Trash folder, otherwise the deletion doesn't really delete the
message. It's a long time since it was true, maybe they changed
something meanwhile, maybe not, I do not know.

Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > 
> > It depends on how you have set up deleting to behave. If you have set
> > a
> > real folder to use as a trash, then the messages are moved to the
> > trash
> > rather than just being marked as deleted.  In that case go into the
> > trash folder for the account and undelete them from there.
> 
> Thanks Pete. I indeed found the deleted messages in my Trash folder,
> but there was no way I could see to undelete them via a left click on
> the message or the message dropdown menu.
> 
> How do I undelete them from the trash?
> 
Dunno. I thought it kept a record of where they came from to allow
undelete, but I don't use a real trash so can't tell. I presume you'll
have to drag them from trash back to where they came from.

If it is something that happens often, then I would probably advise
that you don't use a real trash folder and stick to marking the message
as deleted and a virtual trash. (You can undelete from a virtual trash,
I know that works.)

P.

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Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 09:10 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Andre. View=>Show Undeleted Messages in that folder failed
> > to
> > show the undeleted messages.
> > 
> It depends on how you have set up deleting to behave. If you have set
> a
> real folder to use as a trash, then the messages are moved to the
> trash
> rather than just being marked as deleted.  In that case go into the
> trash folder for the account and undelete them from there.

Thanks Pete. I indeed found the deleted messages in my Trash folder,
but there was no way I could see to undelete them via a left click on
the message or the message dropdown menu.

How do I undelete them from the trash?

Thanks,

SteveT


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Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread Pete Biggs
> 
> 
> Thanks Andre! Using your instructions I was able to use "n" as the
> hotkey for next email instead of Ctrl+PgDn, and "p" for previous email
> instead of Ctrl+PgUp. However, the list didn't scroll with multiple
> presses of "n", and so soon disappeared from the list. Multiple presses
> of "p" scrolled off the top of the list. This behavior is true of the
> default Ctrl+PgUP and Ctrl+PgDn too. Is there any way I can make the
> list scroll when I repeatedly go to the next or previous email?

It does on mine, but it's a bit laggy - i.e. if you are doing it
quickly, then it doesn't always re-draw the list on every key press.

> 
> > 
> > > Also, if I accidentally delete one or more messages and haven't
> > > purged
> > > yet, how do I undelete them?
> > 
> > Enable "View  Show Deleted Messages" in that physical folder, and
> > select "Undelete Message" from the context menu.
> 
> Thanks Andre. View=>Show Undeleted Messages in that folder failed to
> show the undeleted messages.
> 
It depends on how you have set up deleting to behave. If you have set a
real folder to use as a trash, then the messages are moved to the trash
rather than just being marked as deleted.  In that case go into the
trash folder for the account and undelete them from there.  To change
the behaviour it's under Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts ->
[select account] -> Edit -> Defaults

P.

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Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 03:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> 
> Thanks Andre! Using your instructions I was able to use "n" as the
> hotkey for next email instead of Ctrl+PgDn, and "p" for previous
> email
> instead of Ctrl+PgUp. However, the list didn't scroll with multiple
> presses of "n", and so soon disappeared from the list. Multiple
> presses
> of "p" scrolled off the top of the list. This behavior is true of the
> default Ctrl+PgUP and Ctrl+PgDn too. Is there any way I can make the
> list scroll when I repeatedly go to the next or previous email?

I've subsequently found that this disappearance is intermittent. When I
can figure out a reproductions sequence I'll get back to you.

Thanks,

SteveT

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Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 08:56 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 02:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > I'm in the process of switching to Evolution. I'd like to create my
> > own
> > set of hotkeys. For instance, when I'm in the message list, I'd
> > like to
> > press the letter "d" to delete the currently highlighted message.
> > I'd
> > like to press "n" to move the highlight to the next message, and
> > "p" to
> > move to the previous message.
> 
> See "Help  Contents  Common Other Questions and Problems 
> Customizing tool bar and menu items".

Thanks Andre! Using your instructions I was able to use "n" as the
hotkey for next email instead of Ctrl+PgDn, and "p" for previous email
instead of Ctrl+PgUp. However, the list didn't scroll with multiple
presses of "n", and so soon disappeared from the list. Multiple presses
of "p" scrolled off the top of the list. This behavior is true of the
default Ctrl+PgUP and Ctrl+PgDn too. Is there any way I can make the
list scroll when I repeatedly go to the next or previous email?

> 
> > Also, if I accidentally delete one or more messages and haven't
> > purged
> > yet, how do I undelete them?
> 
> Enable "View  Show Deleted Messages" in that physical folder, and
> select "Undelete Message" from the context menu.

Thanks Andre. View=>Show Undeleted Messages in that folder failed to
show the undeleted messages.

Mn, learning a new email client is always difficult, so I really
appreciate your help.


SteveT
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Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread Andre Klapper via evolution-list
Hi,

On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 02:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> I'm in the process of switching to Evolution. I'd like to create my own
> set of hotkeys. For instance, when I'm in the message list, I'd like to
> press the letter "d" to delete the currently highlighted message. I'd
> like to press "n" to move the highlight to the next message, and "p" to
> move to the previous message.

See "Help  Contents  Common Other Questions and Problems 
Customizing tool bar and menu items".

> Also, if I accidentally delete one or more messages and haven't purged
> yet, how do I undelete them?

Enable "View  Show Deleted Messages" in that physical folder, and
select "Undelete Message" from the context menu.

Cheers,
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[Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?

2022-07-19 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

I'm in the process of switching to Evolution. I'd like to create my own
set of hotkeys. For instance, when I'm in the message list, I'd like to
press the letter "d" to delete the currently highlighted message. I'd
like to press "n" to move the highlight to the next message, and "p" to
move to the previous message.

Also, if I accidentally delete one or more messages and haven't purged
yet, how do I undelete them?

Thanks,

SteveT
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