Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

Hi,

On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 10:55 -0500, Anonymous Japhering wrote:
> Given that there is no master list of what distro is running what
> version of anything, the task becomes a monumental time suck.   And
> time is the thing I have the least of.

Right, I'm sorry about that. I didn't mean to waste your time.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 16:56 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 09:50 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > For example,  Linux Mint  native version is 3.36.5-ubuntu1 while
> > the
> > flatpk version is 3.44.4. There is bound to be a ton of changes in
> > both Evolution and WebKit between the versions.
> 
> Hi,
> you are right, it depends on the distro the user uses. There are
> distros with even older Evolution (but possibly close to the latest
> WebKitGTK) and distros which have the same or newer version than the
> Flathub.org version.
> 
> I suggested to use the version close to the Flathub.org version just
> for the reason you mentioned, to limit the set of the changes.
> Bye,
> Milan

Given that there is no master list of what distro is running what
version of anything, 
the task becomes a monumental time suck.   And time is the thing I have
the least of.

Using 3.44.4 as the base there are  10 distros that have that version
as the native, if
the data is accurate.


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Re: [Evolution] Compose plain text emails that render well on MS Outlook

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 08:31 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 08:08 -0300, Jorge P. de Morais Neto via
> evolution-list wrote:
> > Hi.  I reply below:
> > Em [2022-09-19 seg 00:54:15+0200], Ángel escreveu:
> > > If the problem is only surfacing on the signature, maybe you
> > > could
> > > setup your signature with doubled newlines?
> >  thank you for the tip, but that would add five newlines to my
> > messages, which I think would be too much.
> 
> More exotic suggestion: just skip the signature.  They were useful
> once
> upon a time, long ago; today they really accomplish nothing. 
> Including
> anything but your name is largely a waste of time.
> 

+1

I stopped adding an automatic signature well over 20 years ago.

poc
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Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 09:50 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> For example,  Linux Mint  native version is 3.36.5-ubuntu1 while the
> flatpk version is 3.44.4. There is bound to be a ton of changes in
> both Evolution and WebKit between the versions.

Hi,
you are right, it depends on the distro the user uses. There are
distros with even older Evolution (but possibly close to the latest
WebKitGTK) and distros which have the same or newer version than the
Flathub.org version.

I suggested to use the version close to the Flathub.org version just
for the reason you mentioned, to limit the set of the changes.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Anonymous Japhering via evolution-list]

On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 08:10 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 10:58 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > ** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.227: Error: 9, This
> > file contains no playable streams.. Debug output:
> > ../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489):
> > gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error (): /GstPipeline:image-
> > decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3-
> > 0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0:
> > no known streams found
> 
> A viable option could be to test with the message on a host system
> Evolution (some latest version, like 3.44.x/3.46.0, with a new
> WebKitGTK), and, if reproducible, provide the message for testing to
> the WebKitGTK folks.

Would it really, given that the host based versions available in most
distros
are so far behind the flatpak version?

For example,  Linux Mint  native version is 3.36.5-ubuntu1 while the
flatpk version
is 3.44.4.  There is bound to be a ton of changes in both Evolution and
WebKit 
between the versions.


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Re: [Evolution] Compose plain text emails that render well on MS Outlook

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 08:08 -0300, Jorge P. de Morais Neto via
evolution-list wrote:
> Hi.  I reply below:
> Em [2022-09-19 seg 00:54:15+0200], Ángel escreveu:
> > If the problem is only surfacing on the signature, maybe you could
> > setup your signature with doubled newlines?
>  thank you for the tip, but that would add five newlines to my
> messages, which I think would be too much.

More exotic suggestion: just skip the signature.  They were useful once
upon a time, long ago; today they really accomplish nothing.  Including
anything but your name is largely a waste of time.

-- 
Adam Tauno Williams  GPG D95ED383

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Re: [Evolution] Compose plain text emails that render well on MS Outlook

[Jorge P. de Morais Neto via evolution-list]

Hi.  I reply below:

Em [2022-09-19 seg 00:54:15+0200], Ángel escreveu:

> If the problem is only surfacing on the signature, maybe you could
> setup your signature with doubled newlines?

I thank you for the tip, but that would add five newlines to my
messages, which I think would be too much.

My work messages currently look like:

Atenciosamente,
--





If I doubled the newlines, it would look like this:

Atenciosamente,

--









Regards,
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Re: [Evolution] Freezing Preview pane

[Milan Crha via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 10:58 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> ** (WebKitWebProcess:141): WARNING **: 10:19:30.227: Error: 9, This
> file contains no playable streams.. Debug output:
> ../gst/isomp4/qtdemux.c(489):
> gst_qtdemux_post_no_playable_stream_error (): /GstPipeline:image-
> decoder-0/GstDecodebin3:decodebin3-
> 0/GstParseBin:parsebin0/GstQTDemux:qtdemux0:
> no known streams found

Hi,
it looks like there is something with the gstreamer code in the
WebKitGTK, or, possibly better said, the message contains a video/audio
stream, which cannot be played with the gstreamer. As your Evolution
works fine, it can be closed, the problem is surely on the WebKitGTK
side. A backtrace of the corresponding WebKitWebProcess process might
help, but getting a backtrace from a Flatpak application is too
complicated.

A viable option could be to test with the message on a host system
Evolution (some latest version, like 3.44.x/3.46.0, with a new
WebKitGTK), and, if reproducible, provide the message for testing to
the WebKitGTK folks.
Bye,
Milan

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