Re: [Evolution] Collating inboxes
On Sat, 2019-09-28 at 21:44 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 2019-09-29 at 05:33 +1000, Bradley G Ward wrote: > > Not being one who posts to lists such as this at all, I have no > > idea > > what you are talking about, and I know little about etiquette. I > > think > > that this archaic bottom posting is the rule here? > > It's expected, as we do not start reading emails at the bottom, yes. > :) > > > The link you provided means nothing to me and sheds no light on the > > question I posed, as far as I can see. How am I responding to a > > random message when I started a new topic? If this has been > > addressed in the past I don't even know where to go to search for > > it. So apologies if I've knocked the Evolution list off its axis. > > Your previous email was a direct reply to the thread "cycle through > contact editor with TAB key", as you clicked Reply. > Instead, please send a new message (which is not a reply) to the > mailing list when starting a completely new topic. Thanks :) > > > Your solution is not correct. I have both POP3 and IMAP accounts > > all > > directing their incoming mail into the one inbox. > > If you have IMAP accounts directing incoming mail to 1 (one) inbox > then > you probably already have some filters configured somewhere which > forward email to that one inbox. These filters might be local in > Evolution, or might be on some server. You are free to add an > additional filter in that place, to solve the problem you asked > about. > > Cheers, > andre > > -- > Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net > https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ Thanks for the reply. I have just checked out my original post and I see nothing about me replying to another post. Nothing. I know that I found an old post, hit reply all, deleted the text of the email, changed the subject header and just had the evolution list address in the 'to' line after removing whoever posted the email I was using. How it ended up being a reply to another thread I have no idea. And this is, obviously, not something that one would do intentionally. I won't labour this point, but I do not have filters set up, either locally or on a server. There is a simpler solution to this. I will work it out myself as your solutions are unnecessarily involved where I can assure you that there is a simple way to do this. I have this setup on three pcs in this way. I'll look a bit deeper as to what I did. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Collating inboxes
On Sat, 2019-09-28 at 11:09 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Hi,
>
> please do not reply to a random message and then change the subject
> line. It destroys threading.
> See
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2019-September/thread.html
> Send a new message when you start a new topic. Thanks.
>
> On Sat, 2019-09-28 at 05:45 +1000, Bradley G Ward via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > I am asking a question for something that I solved a long time ago
> > but
> > I can't remember, or seem to see, how I did it.
> >
> > I have a number of email addresses that get checked for mail and I
> > have
> > all incoming mail from these going into the one folder. I have
> > just
> > added another email account and want to have the mail from this
> > going
> > in with the rest of my mail rather than into its own separate inbox
> > folder.
> >
> > Can someone assist me here with how I do this? Very frustrating to
> > have had sorted this out ages ago and then lose the knowledge.
>
> Mail accounts that are local ("POP3" etc) all end up in the local "On
> this computer" Inbox, because the mail is only on your local machine
> once you have pulled it from the mail server.
>
> Mail accounts that are remote ("IMAP" etc) end up with a separate
> node
> and a separate inbox, as they are synced to what is also on the
> corresponding mail server.
>
> You could set up a (virtual) search folder based on the two inboxes:
>
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-search-folders.html
>
> You could set up a filter to move/copy mail from one folder to
> another:
> https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-filters.html
>
> Cheers,
> andre
> --
> Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net
> https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
>
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Not being one who posts to lists such as this at all, I have no idea
what you are talking about, and I know little about etiquette. I think
that this archaic bottom posting is the rule here? The link you
provided means nothing to me and sheds no light on the question I
posed, as far as I can see. How am I responding to a random message
when I started a new topic? If this has been addressed in the past I
don't even know where to go to search for it. So apologies if I've
knocked the Evolution list off its axis.
Your solution is not correct. I have both POP3 and IMAP accounts all
directing their incoming mail into the one inbox. I have a total of 4
POP3 accounts and 2 IMAP accounts happily directing the mail into one
convenient place. So your convoluted work around is not what I am
after.
Having had a small whinge now, I do thank you for taking the time to
reply, but you are incorrect in your distinction between POP3 and IMAP.
If I've violated some other rule with this reply just delete it and
I'll forget all about it.
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[Evolution] Collating inboxes
Hi everybody I am asking a question for something that I solved a long time ago but I can't remember, or seem to see, how I did it. I have a number of email addresses that get checked for mail and I have all incoming mail from these going into the one folder. I have just added another email account and want to have the mail from this going in with the rest of my mail rather than into its own separate inbox folder. Can someone assist me here with how I do this? Very frustrating to have had sorted this out ages ago and then lose the knowledge. Thanks ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spam error message
-- Original Message -- From: "Andre Klapper" To: evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Wednesday, 22 May, 2019 At 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [Evolution] Spam error message On Wed, 2019-05-22 at 07:44 +1000, Bradley G. Ward wrote: Ok. Bottom posting it is. Thanks, however it's still confusing because previous quotes are not marked as such so it's unnecessarily hard to realize who wrote what. Formatting looks like you used "Forward🡒Redirect" instead of "Reply". andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ I'm now using the Telstra web based client. That's how it replies. I am just using the 'reply' button. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spam error message
-- Original Message -- From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" To: evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Wednesday, 22 May, 2019 At 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [Evolution] Spam error message On Wed, 2019-05-22 at 07:04 +1000, Bradley G. Ward via evolution-list wrote: What I don't understand is if its the ISP then why does it allow me to send a forwarded email with no text from my ms outlook account? Likewise, I can do the same with Evolution from my wife's Arch system. [Please don't top-post on this list] It's not the ISP but the mail provider (unless they happen to be the same entity). Wouldn't the same rule have applied to to all pcs going via that provider? Not necessarily. The spam rules they apply can take anything into account as long as its detectable in the message. That includes the user agent, the originating host, presence of certain headers, keywords in the message subject or message body, presence of attachments, anything at all. You can't rely on a logic of "it worked on this so it should work on that". Spam filtering is by its very nature heuristic. poc Ok. Bottom posting it is. I'll abandon logic then which I do frequently anyway. At least it appears to be working now so that's the main thing. Thanks for the replies one and all. I appreciate the help that can be gotten here. Its great. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spam error message
Thanks for the replies. What I don't understand is if its the ISP then why does it allow me to send a forwarded email with no text from my ms outlook account? Likewise, I can do the same with Evolution from my wife's Arch system. Wouldn't the same rule have applied to to all pcs going via that provider? -- Original Message -- From: "Pete Biggs" To: evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Wednesday, 22 May, 2019 At 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Evolution] Spam error message It seems to be ok now if I pust just one character in the text area of the forwarded email. No idea why, but, blind forwarding seems to be the problem. Because the detection of spam works on certain rules concerning the make up of the message and each of those rules has a certain number of points that are all added together. When a message reaches a points threshold, that message is deemed to be spam. One of the rules that your SMTP provider gives a high number of points to appears to be "the content of the message is only a forwarded message without any other content". Adding a single character means that particular rule doesn't apply. (The rationale is that forwarding without added content is possibly an automated process, adding some content implies human interaction, so less likely to be spam.) It is not my provider as suggested by someone else and I never thought that was the issue. Why not? What else would give that message? It is definitely a rejection message from the SMTP server. If you don't believe me, run Evolution with the SMTP debugging turned on and you will be able to see where your providers SMTP server gives that error message. I just don't know why it has started doing this. Because they changed something. The weighting given to each spam rule is constantly being re-evaluated - for an ISP it is likely to do with complaints from customers that too much spam is getting through, so they tweak things. It may also be that some other factor has meant an additional spam score - an RBL entry somewhere possibly - that has taken your mail over the threshold. (If the threshold was, say, '5', previously your forwarded messages might have been getting a score of 4.95, a relatively minor change of 0.05 in a spam weighting will result in the mail now crossing the threshold.) I frequently blind forward msgs between my laptops so they are for my info only. If you frequently do this, then you would be much better of using IMAP and keeping the mail on a server so all your devices see the same mailstore. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spam error message
Interesting comment here. I hope I interpreted it correctly. It seems to be ok now if I pust just one character in the text area of the forwarded email. No idea why, but, blind forwarding seems to be the problem. It is not my provider as suggested by someone else and I never thought that was the issue. I just don't know why it has started doing this. Thank you for the Arch detour. Fortunately it doesn't apply here. I frequently blind forward msgs between my laptops so they are for my info only. I totally understand the annoyance of getting a message where its not clear what the hell its being forwarded for. Thanks for the replies. So far so good with this small fix. On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 08:32 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 09:17 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > I suspect if it's only forwarded messages, and you forward them "as > > attachment" and add no other content, then that's what's triggering > > it. > > Agree, that will definitely get you SPAM points. > > Aside: as an additional point of e-mail etiquette: don't blind > forward > messages. Put some context in there. I get frequent blind forwards > from people as I am the executive chair of two non-profits - and it > is > annoying. Am I'm supposed to be able to intuit why someone thought I > needed to see some random message? I summarily delete them; if the > sender cannot be bothered to write even a single sentence of context > then it cannot be that important. > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Spam error message
Hello everybody, I have Evolution (3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) installed on two pcs. It has been running pretty much perfectly until when I now try to forward messages I get the following message: DATA command failed: 5.7.1 5C1AEA603EA3B84F Message content rejected due to suspected spam. OB703”. It started on one laptop about two weeks ago, and now it does it on both. Does anybody know what's happening here? Conversely my wife has evolution on an Arch system without these errors so I am assuming that its a program problem and not my ISP. Thanks for any help that comes my way. Brad ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Archive function
Hi again everybody, I finally worked this out. I have to enable the 'general' archive function from edit>preferences and then 'mail preferences' at the bottom. It works following this. Sorry if this is what you were telling me but I misse it. Got it now. Thanks again for your help :) On Sun, 2019-03-03 at 08:27 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Can anybody tell me how to utilise the button on the top tool bar > > that > > says"Move selected messages to the archive folder for the > > account"? I > > do not have an archive in my folder list by default, creating one > > does > > not make this function usable. > > Have you set the Archive folder in the account configuration - you > just > said you created one. You set it in > > Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts -> (select account) -> Edit -> > Defaults > > P. > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Archive function
Thanks for the replies, What I did was just create an "archive" folder and then (after someone else replied) I then went into each individual account Edit>preferences>individual account>defaults where I set "Archive Folder" to "On this computer/Archive" where "Archive" is the folder I created on "On this computer". This machine has three accounts so I set it the same for all accounts. I thought that I had it except I don't. If I select a message the option to archive the select message (on the top bar) is still greyed out. I've had a good look over this but can't see what I'm missing. Any further insights welcomed. Thanks From: Andre Klapper To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject:Re: [Evolution] Archive function Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2019 09:26:09 +0100 (03/03/19 19:26:09) On Sun, 2019-03-03 at 09:49 +1100, Bradley G Ward via evolution-list wrote: > Hi everybody > Can anybody tell me how to utilise the button on the top tool bar that > says"Move selected messages to the archive folder for the account"? I > do not have an archive in my folder list by default, creating one does > not make this function usable. Which steps did you perform to "create one"? > I can't see this mentioned in the > "Help" anywhere although it may be in there somewhere. It's mentioned in one sentence on the "Mail folder locations" page (which is linked from each account management page). :) > I am using Evolution 3.28.5 on Ubuntu0.18.04.1. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Archive function
Hi everybody Can anybody tell me how to utilise the button on the top tool bar that says"Move selected messages to the archive folder for the account"? I do not have an archive in my folder list by default, creating one does not make this function usable. I can't see this mentioned in the "Help" anywhere although it may be in there somewhere. I am using Evolution 3.28.5 on Ubuntu0.18.04.1. Thanks for any help that may come my way. B ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to delete single messages from the trash bin
Thanks to everybody who replied. I get it now and I'll work with it. I appreciate having it clearly explained. On Mon, 2019-02-25 at 09:01 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote: > On February 25, 2019 3:10:05 AM MST, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > On Sun, 2019-02-24 at 16:54 -0700, Zan Lynx > > > > No, this is not how Evolution Trash works. > > > > The fundamental model in Evolution follows the IMAP paradigm, in > > which > > deleted messages are merely marked for deletion, not removed. > > Actually > > removing them is called "expunging". In the Evo interface the Trash > > folder is a search folder by default, so the "deleted" messages > > stay in > > their original folders but are merely marked for deletion. Toggle > > the > > View->Show Deleted Messages option to see them. > > > As a system administrator in a past life I would have "cleaned" > user's Trash folders in Exchange without a second thought. > > As a programmer writing, say, online backup software I would not save > files or email in a Trash folder anymore than I would save temporary > or cache files. > > If I ran an online IMAP server, which I do for myself, it would > automatically purge deleted messages older than a month. > > So Evolution *does* work that way. Because it marks a Deleted flag > and that flag does whatever the server side decides to do. > > By no definition of the word "Deleted" does it mean "Keep this until > I come back for it." ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to delete single messages from the trash bin
Thanks for the replies I got to this. Basically, when I delete items in Evolution they go into this "Rubbish Bin" and it is here that I can't delete things from. And I am not "wrong". I have used Microsoft Office for years and it has a deleted folder where deleted items from the inbox, for example, go when deleted. Yes, you can set it up for this folder to be emptied on a schedule, but my other pcs and even my work pcs are set up so that the deleted folder has the deleted items in it for as long as I want to leave them and allows me to delete what I want from there. I have also used Thunderbird prior to coming here to Evolution and it also allowed me to this. What I want to do, and I was trying to do with Evolution, was go through the "Rubbish Bin" and selectively delete the crap and keep other messages there that I might come back to, leaving my inbox only with things needing attention right now. Somebody also suggested that I just select the item and delete it with with the delete key or the trash can icon. As my message said, the option to delete the message via the trash can icon is not possible as this button is greyed out. Hovering the mouse over this icon says "mark the selected items for deletion" but if I select a message I still can't delete it either by using this icon OR the delete button. So, what I want to do is selectively delete messages in the rubbish bin but I can't. Thanks for any further replies. On Sun, 2019-02-24 at 16:54 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote: > On 2/24/2019 1:16 PM, Bradley G Ward via evolution-list wrote: > > This may be, and probably is, a basic question. But how can I > > delete > > single messages from the trash bin so that I can reduce the amount > > of > > messages that are in there? > > > > I've searched the Help option which tells me how to expunge an > > entire > > folder but I can't find how to do it for individual messages. I > > can > > highlight the message but the option to mark the actual message is > > greyed out. > > Umm. There's something basically wrong here. > > Are you expecting *any* message in a Trash folder to still be there > tomorrow? In a week? A month? > > Because you are *wrong*. If there's a folder named Trash in *any* > program, expect things in there to *vanish at any time*. > > Windows OS, for example, will automatically clean up Trash files and > Temporary files if you run low on disk space. > > The Thunderbird email program will automatically delete and > "compact" > Trash folders, although it will ask you first. It will ask one time > only, if you check the checkbox to not ask again, I believe. > > Trash exists only so that you can change your mind about a deletion, > and > pretty quickly, not in a month. > > If you want to have emails that you aren't sure about deleting, > don't > put them in Trash, make a folder for them and put them in there > instead. > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to delete single messages from the trash bin
This may be, and probably is, a basic question. But how can I delete single messages from the trash bin so that I can reduce the amount of messages that are in there? I've searched the Help option which tells me how to expunge an entire folder but I can't find how to do it for individual messages. I can highlight the message but the option to mark the actual message is greyed out. Thanks for any advice here. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Hyperlinks
Thanks so much for that. Yes, I realised after I sent it that I should have included those details. And it was my worst scenario...the solution sitting there in front of me. It is now up and running. Thanks for taking the time to reply. On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 21:52 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sat, 2019-02-23 at 07:59 +1100, Bradley G Ward via evolution-list > wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > I am hoping that someone can help with how to enable my browser to > > link > > to hyperlinks within emails in evolution. I have had a look in the > > help and the net without an obviously solution. Can someone point > > me to > > where I might find the answer to this? > > > > If it is in an obvious place I apologise. But I just can't find > > it. > > > > Help -> Contents -> Common Other Questions and Problems -> Opening > links in and from the web browser > > P. > > ps and if you want some more detailed help then you need to give us > some more information like the version of Evolution you are using > and, > probably relevant in this case, the desktop environment you use. > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Hyperlinks
Hi everybody,I am hoping that someone can help with how to enable my browser to link to hyperlinks within emails in evolution. I have had a look in the help and the net without an obviously solution. Can someone point me to where I might find the answer to this? If it is in an obvious place I apologise. But I just can't find it. And thank you in advance for any people who may help me. Brad ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
