Re: [Evolution] Combining Contact Lists
On Tue, 2022-08-09 at 22:20 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Caution: External email > On Tue, 2022-08-09 at 16:31 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Tue, 2022-08-09 at 07:15 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > I have two contact lists, which are very similar but not quite > > > the > > > same. What's the best way to combine them? > > Just a comment: Looks to me like a frequent problem programmers have with different versions of code. Only answer is a human has to look at it--when there is a difference, which version to keep is a question a program cannot answer. So I would look at tools that put the files to be merged in adjacent screens with differences highlighted. Oh, these are not text files? Maybe you need to script something up to do this then, or reformat them for the standard tools. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How do I make my own hotkeys?
On Tue, 2022-07-19 at 04:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Thanks Pete. I indeed found the deleted messages in my Trash folder, > but there was no way I could see to undelete them via a left click on > the message or the message dropdown menu. > > How do I undelete them from the trash? > In my older evolution, undelete is in the Edit menu with shortcut shift-ctrl-d, not the Messages menu. That never made sense to me but maybe it is there in your version. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Send Account Overrides behavior
On Wed, 2022-01-05 at 10:50 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > But it would be nice if I could choose the default sending address > > for ALL new email, as the one that comes up now (with no preference > > folders set) is the one I use less often. I can't find a way to > > change this (old 3.28.5 in CentOS 7). > > You should be able to set a default account in Edit -> Preferences (I > think that works in 3.28), it then uses that account as the default. Doing that changes the order of contacting the servers, but not the >From address default. > > > You could also set a folder send account override on the Inbox to > ensure that everything gets sent as your preferred account. Yes, that does the trick. Thanks very much for your help. It never occurred to me that "Inbox" was just another folder. > > P. > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Send Account Overrides behavior
On Wed, 2022-01-05 at 00:00 +0100, Ángel wrote: > > Probably. The time needed is probably very similar. > I think it's more noticieble if you are e.g. in folder Work and > creating a new mail automatically chooses your Work email address. > But then I'm not seeing the Inbox, right? Do you work in a style where you use filters to send everything to some folder as it comes in and then work there? That would not work for me. But it would be nice if I could choose the default sending address for ALL new email, as the one that comes up now (with no preference folders set) is the one I use less often. I can't find a way to change this (old 3.28.5 in CentOS 7). George ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Send Account Overrides behavior
On Mon, 2022-01-03 at 22:25 -0500, Matt Connell wrote: > > > You can setup send account overrides also for the folders, which > > applies to the new messages as well (when created in that folder). > > > > Try Edit->Plugins->Sender Validation plugin. It can help here. > What does it mean to create a message "in a folder"? I click "New" typically with the usual inbox preview on the screen and thought that location was irrelevant. Are you saying I can go to the "On this Computer" tree on the left, click on a folder, then click "New" and have it sent from the account I listed for that folder in Preferences? Or is there some other way to be "in a folder"? OK, nice, but probably quicker just to click the send account I want in the triangle in the From entry widget. Correct? Thanks, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution hangs if Gnome Keyring isn't open before starting
On Sun, 2021-12-19 at 15:17 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Gnome login will automatically start gnome-keyring and unlock the > default/login keyring. You can do the same thing for other desktop > environments by setting up PAM correctly. Note this only works if the > login password is same as the default keyring password. I > Pete, thanks for the info. Yes, for me those passwords are the same. So what is PAM and where can I read about how to configure it? George ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution hangs if Gnome Keyring isn't open before starting
On Sun, 2021-12-19 at 01:42 +0100, Ángel wrote: > Evolution asks the Keyring, and if it isn't there it would show the > password prompt (i.e. it it was working). > Note that if the keyring wasn't running it should be activated > automatically. I can confirm that I have seen the same problem for a long time with my older CentOS-7-supplied Evolution 3.28.5 under Mate. I can add that when I log in after a bootup, Seahorse is not running. If I start evolution first, it asks for the password. If instead of entering it, I then start seahorse with my login password, evolution gets the email password from seahorse and I don't have to answer its query. If I start seahorse first, evolution never asks me for a password. My conclusion is that this is not an evolution problem at all, but a problem with getting seahorse, or whatever machinery is behind it, or whatever it is you call Keyring, to start at login. I have been unable to find a seahorse discussion group to bring this up. It might have to do with Mate vs. gnome in my case, but the similarity of my problem to the one posted suggests it is not that, but some machinery that is common to gnome and Mate startup independent of evolution. Further insight would be welcome. Best to all, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List
On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 11:41 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'd vote for that. I sometimes hit the Del key when looking at some > other window without realizing that Evo has focus, thus deleting a > message. It can be recovered of course but it's annoying. > That wouldn't happen if you would use the GUI option "select windows when the mouse moves over them." Of course then when you do some little thing in Windows you have to relearn to click before you type all the time... George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List
On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 09:09 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 12:57 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > Unless there is a good reason, I'll plan on submitting a feature > > request to allow Delete to work anyplace where Ctrl-D works. > > Hi, > I would not do that. In fact, there were ideas to disable the Delete > key completely, because it's not used anywhere else. Dear Milan (et al), Except in every text editor to delete things. Very natural (for me at least) to use it to delete an email from the inbox. Easy to reach with the right hand, one finger only... But OK, I yield to your judgement on this issue, it's not a big deal for me, I will not file the request. But please don't turn it off completely, better limited function than none. George ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 10:11 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 22:36 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I don't really see why it doesn't work like this. > > With respect of the Delete itself, there are two shortcuts to do it. > One is the Delete key press, which works only when the proper widgets > are focused, the second is the Ctrl+D shortcut, which works in all > views. Why is this? I have noticed it and it is annoying. Milan at least has helped me understand why Ctrl-D works sometimes when Delete does not. Unless there is a good reason, I'll plan on submitting a feature request to allow Delete to work anyplace where Ctrl-D works. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] gmail imapx extremely slow?
On Sun, 2021-06-13 at 14:17 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > > I must be a one of a kind person I still use POP3 with my gmail > account in Evolution. :) > That makes two of us (for POP3, not gmail). Never a problem synching anything. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] HTML Rendering - Dark Theme not working
On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 11:37 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, > to be fair, some are uncommon and some had been thrown away, to > simplify the UI. I still have an idea to add something like "Advanced > Options" into respective sections, not only for the mail account > Properties, but also to the Preferences. I did not get to anything > more > than thinking of it yet. Just to add my two cents: IMO, nothing should be hidden from the documentation. That in principle is the first place to go for help, even if few do any more. I second the notion of a section "Advanced Options" in the preferences and in the doc. dconf editor is a horrible jumble of unexplained goo. I didn't even know it existed until it came up on this list. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug copying email address into new email?
On Sat, 2021-03-20 at 00:21 +0100, Ángel wrote: > On 2021-03-18 at 09:42 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > Milan, thanks for letting me know it's fixed, it is easy enough > > to click the middle button instead (really a scroll wheel, that's > > why I was avoiding it). --trimmed-- > > Is it happening consistently for you, though? Yes, every time. > > This looks like a problem of the Cc field not getting selected (the > body stayed selected, or got the selection after clicking Cc). The last thing I did was open the new mail. I never clicked in the body. Not clear how it gets selected--maybe it's the default when a new mail is opened. But yes, clicking in the Cc field is supposed to select it. I believe it is (was?) a bug that it is not selected by clicking there. > > Albeit using a newer version, I am unable to reproduce it as well. Fits what Milan said. > I > found a similar case, though. If in the Edit menu instead of Paste I am clicking Paste IN the Edit menu, not clear what you mean by this. > you > had selected the next entry, Paste Quotation, that will paste into > the > body even if the focus was in the headers. > It somewhat makes sense, as you can't Paste Quotation into a header, > but I feel that's a minor bug in that it shouldn't have been enabled. > > Maybe that could have been what you did? No, that's not what I did. > > Additionally, does it work from the contextual menu? What do you mean "contextual menu". The one you get by right clicking? I just tried that now and Paste there works as expected, it pastes in the Cc field. Useful observation for me. Thanks. George ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug copying email address into new email?
On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 08:16 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, > your version is really ancient. There will be released 3.40.0 stable > series shortly (tomorrow). It's a very long gap between 3.28.5 and > 3.40.0. > > On a good side, this had been fixed meanwhile, I cannot reproduce it > here. Milan, thanks for letting me know it's fixed, it is easy enough to click the middle button instead (really a scroll wheel, that's why I was avoiding it). As for "ancient", well, this is standard on CentOS 7, which is supported until 2024 and is the version currently supported by my university so I am staying with it. George ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug copying email address into new email?
On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 18:11 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote: > I also have Centos 7 with mate desktop using evolution 3.28.5 > (3.28.5-10.el7) and it works fine for me. I do not clink into the cc > field Just hover over it and paste. > > Ron [For some reason, CTRL-L does not work with your message and Reply-to-list is grayed out, so I am using Reply All here--Sorry] I don't think you are doing what I was asking about--if you are hovering over the Cc field, you are not clicking "Paste" with the mouse. Normal expectation is if you click Paste the paste is going wherever the last click was, so that is why I click Cc first. George ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Bug copying email address into new email?
Dear colleagues, Evolution 3.28.5 (Current CentOS 7 release, MATE desktop). This looks like a bug, and I will report it unless somebody on this list tells me it's really a great feature or my recent version is too ancient. The situation: I am writing a new email and already have "To:" filled in. I decide to send a Cc to somebody who sent me an earlier email. I view the old email, put my mouse over the "From:" address, right click, and select "Copy email address". I single click in the "Cc:" field on the new mail, then click "Paste" in the "Edit" menu. The address then pastes into the body of the new email instead of pasting into the "Cc:" field. Curiously, if I middle click in the "Cc:" field instead of clicking "Paste", the address correctly pastes there in the "Cc:" field. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention
On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 15:24 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > If tongue in cheek then smiley, if serious then don't you think > > that > > would be rather a retrograde step since almost every email these > > days > > is html. > > I think that's a bit of a blanket statement - it depends on the > audience. > Just a random thought here: Could it be that the absurdity of html email pushed on people by Microsoft et al might be part of the reason why so many people now prefer texting to using email, as it gives them (without their realizing it) many of the benefits of plain text email and a little pushback against the big email vendors? George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 16:32 +0100, John Nice via evolution-list wrote: > > > I can't manage to receive POP3 Emails. My ISP's requirements are > > > pretty basic and I had no trouble receiving on sylpheed, but > > Evolution > > > will send with no problems but not receive. It's a basic setup, > > port > > > 110, no encryption, authentication by password, dead simple. > > Hi, Did you try Account Editor->Your Account->Receiving Options-> Disable support for all POP3 extensions? I don't know what this does, but I used to need it to get POP mail with an older server. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 16:32 +0100, John Nice via evolution-list wrote: > > > I can't manage to receive POP3 Emails. My ISP's requirements are > > > pretty basic and I had no trouble receiving on sylpheed, but > > Evolution > > > will send with no problems but not receive. It's a basic setup, > > port > > > 110, no encryption, authentication by password, dead simple. > > Hi, Did you try Account Editor->Your Account->Receiving Options-> Disable support for all POP3 extensions? I don't know what this does, but I used to need it to get POP mail with an older server. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Importing personal certificate
On Wed, 2020-04-22 at 09:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2020-04-21 at 18:36 +0200, Ove Edfors via evolution-list > wrote: > > I'm failing to import my (new) personal certificate (*.p12 format > > and issued by TERENA/DigiCert) to Evolution (3.36.1). > > Which part of *Please do not hijack threads* did you not understand? > > When you have a new topic, COMPOSE A NEW MESSAGE. Do NOT reply to an > existing one. To repeat: changing the Subject line DOES NOT FIX THIS. > I got called on this years ago and learned my lesson. How about changing the code so changing the subject line DOES start a new thread? That would stop this mistake from happening. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Force openning attachemnts in specific application
On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 12:54 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2020-03-11 at 16:38 +0100, an70n--- via evolution-list wrote: > > I'm trying to remove unwanted applications from a list of available > > applications in "Open with" attachment menu. Obviously, removing > > all > > of *.desktop files in not an option. > > Hi, > if I'm not mistaken, the list contains all installed applications, > which claim they can handle given content type/MIME type. Do you > think > some of them are there in error? FWIW, I have seen what is maybe the same problem, mostly with attachments that are some Windows filetype not readable in Linux. The "Open with" list comes up with whatever files are in some directory where I was working in another window, things like C source code files, nothing connected with any *.desktop file. (I have evol. 3.28.5, didn't report this because it is sporadic.) To original poster: are you seeing actual apps on your "Open with", or files that are not even executable? George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] auto import followup-mails to tasks
On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 15:13 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 14:36 +0100, Wiethoff, Helge via evolution-list > wrote: > > If I mark mails for follow-up in another mail client, they are > > included in the search folder but I have no visual feedback about > > the > > number of items for example. > > Hi, > that's correct, the folder tree shows only count of unread mails in > them, as you figured out (there are exceptions like Outbox or Drafts > folders). You can see the number of emails when you enter the folder, > it's shown above the folder tree, but I understand you'd like to see > that "there are new things to be done", like the count of the unread > mails, for which there's currently nothing available, as far as I > know. > Bye, > Milan > As long as I have used evolution, the number in parens after folder names (real or search) as been useless as far as I could tell, as the program has no way to know what I have read or not read when I move an email to a different folder. So after I posted years ago and nobody cared, I learned to ignore that number. I am just writing now to add my vote for having the number in parens just be the number of items in the folder, period. Or at least that should be one option. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] "Select contacts from address book" contact search
Dear colleagues, On upgrading from evol. 2.xx to 3.28.5, I have noted an annoying change: Starting a new email, clicking on "To:" brings up the dialog "Select contacts from address book". I was accustomed to type the first few characters of the user name I wanted (usually two was enough) and I would get one or a few to click on. With the newer evolution I am now using, the search appears to bring up every contact that has those letters anywhere in the name, not just the beginning, which means I have to type a lot more letters to get a unique match. Any way to get back the old behavior? Thanks, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Unable to print from Evolution
On Sun, 2020-02-16 at 16:45 +, Paul wrote: > 3.34.3 (by Flathub.org) Mint Cinnamon 19.3 > > When I try to print an email I get the following options > Print to file > Print to LPR > My printer is not shown which is an HP OfficejetPro 8600 > In Firefox and other apps my printer is shown and works fine except > for > scanning > Any ideas? > You mention the option "Print to LPR". Are you familiar with lpr? It is an old program that does some minimal formatting on a text file and sends it to a selected printer. (Assuming the uppercase LPR in the option is the same thing.) I used to use this with evolution decades ago to print emails. Maybe lpr in your flatpack can talk to your printer--at least I would look at the man page and try it. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What exactly does "preformatted" do?
On Thu, 2020-01-30 at 22:38 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2020-01-30 at 22:28 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-01-30 at 18:10 +, George N. Reeke wrote: > > > What exactly does "preformatted" do? > > > > PS: AFAIK in plain text mode it only disables auto-wrapping. > > I don't know if "performatted" for HTML matters at all. > > PPS: I made a test with performatted and normal HTML. > At least when editing in performatted mode, a HTML line becomes > endless, IOW if the end of the editor window is reached, then > horizontal scrolling starts, while in normal mode wrapping is > done > at the end of the editor window. > Thanks to all who replied. I just used it successfully. George ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts
On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 15:13 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > > > i'm trying to find a setting for this: when type the name of my > > > > > mailcontact in to: field, i have to type 3 letters. I wnat to > > > > > change > > > > > it to 2 letters. In Editor-> Settings i found nothing?! > > > > > someone has an hint? > > Why wouldn't you want it to be the smallest number of letters that > > gives a unique match--one letter if you only have one name starting > > with that letter, etc.? > > To know if it produces a unique match requires a look-up . . . the > reason for minimal length [3 in almost every client] is do the expense > of a look-up to a large addressbook. Addressbooks with over a thousand > entries are common. Corporate addressbooks can be much larger than > that. Really? How do I do a 3-letter lookup? Maybe with an index with 26*26*26 entries followed by linear search? Binary search? Hash table with every entry in it? All of these are easily extended, if you like from "batch" to "online" coding techniques, where you keeping adding letters until you can stop. And without a great deal of study, it seems to me that upkeep as the list changes would not be all that much harder with any of these. How does the 3-letter method work when there are ten Joneses in the list? Isn't it the same thing, just starting a little farther in? > > And do user's really not know THREE characters in the name/address of > who they want to send a message to? Shortening the search criteria is > addressing a problem that doesn't exist. I thought the purpose was to cut down unnecessary typing. Not a "problem" maybe, but sure a convenience. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts
On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 19:38 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke via evolution-list wrote: > 2017-09-12 15:48 GMT+02:00 Milan Crha <mc...@redhat.com>: > > On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 14:36 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke via evolution-list > > wrote: > >> i'm trying to find a setting for this: when type the name of my > >> mailcontact in to: field, i have to type 3 letters. I wnat to change > >> it to 2 letters. In Editor-> Settings i found nothing?! > >> someone has an hint? > > Why wouldn't you want it to be the smallest number of letters that gives a unique match--one letter if you only have one name starting with that letter, etc.? George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution - start minimised/tray?
On Thu, 2017-08-17 at 10:55 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2017-08-16 at 20:47 +0100, Phil wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm new to Evolution and I was wondering if there was a way I could > > start Evolution minimised (or in tray on Gnome). I literally just > > started using debian 9 this week (I'm a newbie). Looking forward to > > your replies! > > As to your question, Evolution does not have a built-in way to start > minimised. > > poc I don't know about your windows manager, but can't you start evolution, minimize it, tell your manager to save the configuration, log out, log in again--it should start minimized. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 21:56 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > If a lot of users actually should use digest, then digest shouldn't be > dropped. If just a few users should actually use digest, it doesn't > make sense to keep it, as long as at least not one person really needs > digest for a good reason, that isn't related to a habit. > What you call a "habit" other people may consider a "workflow" carefully developed over years of experience trying alternatives. I call that a good reason. GNR ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
> Brewster replies: > > George, I'm not sure you're fully utilizing Evolution's capabilities. > When I fire up Evolution, I see my > entire list of folders, first thing. So I don't understand your > phraseology "look in all those other folders > to see if something has arrived". I have dozens of folders, and every > time I download my latest > email, any folder that has new arrivals is clearly flagged, including > the *number* of new messages > that just hit that folder. So I don't have to "look in all those > other folders" ; all I have to do is > scan the list to see which ones might have new traffic. > ewster > > As far as I have ever seen, those numbers in parens after each > folder bear no relationship to whether I have read the messages > or not. Maybe this is because I mostly read them in the preview > window and don't double click on them to read them in their own > window? And after reading them in the preview I either delete > them or move them to a specific folder. So everything in the > inbox is always new and everything in any other folder (except > ones I send stuff to with filters) is not new. The lists where > I look at digests are not important enough to me to be filtered > to their own folder; those are generally for stuff I want to keep. > Very simple. > GNR ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 18:05 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > I already sent this reply to the previous thread but am repeating > > it here for the record, with an added sentence: > > > > Please do not turn digests off. Although I do not use > > them on lists like this one, where I participate, I find them very > > useful on other lists where I just want to keep up a bit and would > > rather not be bothered with all the individual items coming in at > > random intervals. No doubt there are people who feel this way > > about the evolution list, so my comments should apply here as well. > > [It's not about network bandwidth, it's about inbox clutter.] > > So filter them into a different folder so they don't clutter your > inbox. I am a member of numerous mailing lists - not a single one > appears in my inbox, they all end up in their own folder. (For > efficiency, I do it on my server, but it's no different to doing it > within Evolution.) > > P. Then I have to look in all those other folders to see if something has arrived. The way I do it, I just see it in my one inbox when it comes (not often). [I am quite familiar with this type of filtering and use it for other purposes, but for me it is the wrong solution for lists that I don't want to check often.] GNR ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6
On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 17:15 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > However a quick perusal of the admin options tells me that it can be > turned off. I'll propose doing this in a separate thread so members can > give their views. > > poc Please do not turn digests off on all lists. Although I do not use them on lists like this one, where I participate, I find them very useful on other lists where I just want to keep up a bit and would rather not be bothered with all the individual items coming in at random intervals. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Signature placed in wrong position
On Sat, 2016-10-01 at 18:31 -0400, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > Quite frankly, I want the signature where I want it and only where I > > want it. > Here is how I deal with this problem: I don't use the signature feature of evolution. I keep my signature in a little text file in an easily reached directory. To add my signature block, I click on Insert->Text File... and select that file and insert it where I want it. Also, I can have multiple slightly-different signature blocks this way and it is easy to pick the one I want. Just a few more clicks. George Reeke [This is not a signature block] ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] User point of view on the attachment bar?
Dear Milan On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 10:30 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > This email is a plea for an opinion on the attachment bar issue from > the user point of view. I never even noticed the attachment bar you are talking about between the headers and the message. Always use the one at the bottom of the message. Very important that it should be in scrollable space though if at all possible, as it is now. Thanks for asking, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Combined from/to header
On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 18:50 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 12:13 -0500, George Reeke wrote:
> > On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 16:50 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 11:39 -0500, George Reeke wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 16:31 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sure, but then when you go back to the Inbox, you have the wrong
> > > > headings.
> > > No, the view can be customised per folder or made uniform accross
> > > all
> > > folders, according to a Preferences setting, see https://help.gnome
> > > .org
> > > /users/evolution/3.18/mail-change-columns-in-message-list.html.en
> > >
> > > However I've no idea if this applies to version 2.x which I'm
> > > afraid is
> > > really old.
> > >
> > > poc
> > Thank you! My 2.32.3 does have this setting ("Apply the same view
> > settings to all folders" in "Mail preference") and when I unchecked
> > it, it solved the problem. Now all my folders for specific senders
> > have "Date" instead of "Received" but that isn't a big issue.
> > George Reeke
>
> You can configure the columns you want by right-clicking on the Message
> List pane heading, and re-order them by dragging.
>
> poc
Yes, but once "Apply the same view settings to all folders" is
turned off, now you have to make this change individually for
every folder, of which there are many.
George Reeke
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Re: [Evolution] Combined from/to header
On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 16:50 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 11:39 -0500, George Reeke wrote:
> > On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 16:31 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> >
> > Sure, but then when you go back to the Inbox, you have the wrong
> > headings.
>
> No, the view can be customised per folder or made uniform accross all
> folders, according to a Preferences setting, see https://help.gnome.org
> /users/evolution/3.18/mail-change-columns-in-message-list.html.en
>
> However I've no idea if this applies to version 2.x which I'm afraid is
> really old.
>
> poc
Thank you! My 2.32.3 does have this setting ("Apply the same view
settings to all folders" in "Mail preference") and when I unchecked
it, it solved the problem. Now all my folders for specific senders
have "Date" instead of "Received" but that isn't a big issue.
George Reeke
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Re: [Evolution] Switching to browser?
On Thu, 2016-01-14 at 17:04 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote: > On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 17:04 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 15:00 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote: > > > When reading my mail in evolution, I often click on a web link in the > > > message, A tab is opened in my running browser in another window. The > > > system switches me to the browser, but on another machine, I have > > > managed to avoid that switch. I would like to set things up the same > > > way on this machine but I can't figure out how to do it. As things now > > > stand, I have to switch back to evolution each time to finish reading my > > > mail. > > > > > > Can anyone help me? > > > > In RedHat Linux, gnome window system, in the System->Preferences menu, > > there is an item Windows and in that popup dialog there is a check box > > "Select windows when the mouse moves over them". If you check that, > > then when you move the mouse from the browser back to evolution, > > you will be in evolution with the browser still running. > > Where do I find System>Preferences? > > Also, I think perhaps I didn't explain what I wanted. Now when I click > on a link in a mail message, I get put in a new tab in my browser, which > is on a different page. When I go back to the page containing > evolution, it is still running. I would like to suppress the switch > from evolution to the browser. I would prefer looking at the link in > the browser after I have finished reading my mail. I managed somehow > to get things to work that way on another machine, but I don't remember > how I did it > > George Reeke Dear Len, [Reply to list is not available, I think you sent to me with just a cc to the list, so that is what I now have to do]. You are right, I misunderstood what you wanted. I thought you just wanted to get back from reading a link in the browser to where you were in evolution, so I told you how to make the window the mouse is on be active without having to click. To answer that question: Well, I find System on the RedHat menu on the panel, but I think by default there is a different arrangement with three main menus: RedHat, then Places, then a third one, that I always get rid of, so I don't know the name, which is probably where you need to look to click System. Then Preferences comes up on the System menu. To answer your real question, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "When I go back to the page containing evolution, it is still running." What is a "page" here? another workspace? you are somehow running evolution inside a browser page? I mean, if evolution is running in the normal way in its own window, and I click on a link, the tab comes up in the browser, but the mouse stays where it is in evolution and I have to move the mouse to the browser to read the linked page (unless the browser is off when I click and it comes up on top of evolution). So it sounds like you have some unusual arrangement where evolution is not in its own normal window and that is what you need to change. George Reeke > > ___ > > evolution-list mailing list > > evolution-list@gnome.org > > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Switching to browser?
On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 15:00 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote: > When reading my mail in evolution, I often click on a web link in the > message, A tab is opened in my running browser in another window. The > system switches me to the browser, but on another machine, I have > managed to avoid that switch. I would like to set things up the same > way on this machine but I can't figure out how to do it. As things now > stand, I have to switch back to evolution each time to finish reading my > mail. > > Can anyone help me? In RedHat Linux, gnome window system, in the System->Preferences menu, there is an item Windows and in that popup dialog there is a check box "Select windows when the mouse moves over them". If you check that, then when you move the mouse from the browser back to evolution, you will be in evolution with the browser still running. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Ordering in the Show pop-up menu
On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 17:22 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > (This is something I've been meaning to bring up for a long time but > never got round to.) > > The various items in the pop-up menu accessed from the Show button on > the Message pane seem to me to be in a rather arbitrary order: > I don't know about current versions, but in the 2.32 that I have with RedHat 6, you can edit the menus to your heart's content in /usr/share/evolution//ui and I found that without any real knowledge of whatever language it is these are written in, it is pretty easy to reorder or rename menu items. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Ordering in the Show pop-up menu
On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 21:03 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 15:18 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > > On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 17:22 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > (This is something I've been meaning to bring up for a long time > > > but > > > never got round to.) > > > > > > The various items in the pop-up menu accessed from the Show button > > > on > > > the Message pane seem to me to be in a rather arbitrary order: > > > > > > > I don't know about current versions, but in the 2.32 that I have > > with RedHat 6, you can edit the menus to your heart's content in > > /usr/share/evolution//ui and I found that without any > > real knowledge of whatever language it is these are written in, > > it is pretty easy to reorder or rename menu items. > > No doubt, but also no doubt that changes will be overwritten on the > next update. This needs to be a per-user preference. > > poc I agree, and if I remember right I requested this enhancement some years ago, but until it gets done, this is a usable workaround. GNR ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 22:33 +, Pete Biggs wrote: ---trimmed--- >> My isp has a 90 day limit that I did not know about. The only >> alternative is tw, and I doubt that the will be a big improvement. >> I do think it is time to get better email hosting, which is >> independent of the isp. > There shouldn't be any reason to restrict your mail provider to just > your ISP (unless they are real bastards and block access to other > places! In which case dump them.). Gmail is a reasonable start and it > is integrated nicely with Evolution via Gnome online accounts - > although some of the ways they do things is a bit non-standard. > > P. I use Earthlink (POP protocol) at home with Time-Warner as ISP. No problems with evolution. They are cheap (not free) and do not have the nonstandard features of Gmail. Maybe SPAM filtering is over- aggressive. I can't say whether they read your mail like Google does, but at least I don't see ads based on my email content. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Edit an existing email?
On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 15:45 +, Pete Biggs wrote: Another change that would help with the same issues would be the ability to save the reply message in the same folder with the received message, rather than having it automatically go to the Sent folder. Edit - Preferences - select account - Edit - Defaults - Save replies in the folder of the message being replied to. P. Thanks, I'm glad to see that this has been added--it does not exist in version 2.32.3 that I use because it comes with RedHat 6.6. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Edit an existing email?
On Thu, 2015-03-12 at 14:25 +0100, Matthijs van Wolferen LL.M wrote: For one, you could argue about the security of e-mail compared to other means of communication. However, opening up a possibility to change a message at it is still on a server by an outside party is inviting fraud. The usability you have requested, notes in an e-mail and have it available in all clients, can easily be achieved through either a mail to task or mail to note command that is already available. A simple flag-toggle will make it easy to find for later reference. I don't know about anybody else, but I was never talking about changing mail on some server. I was talking about changing emails on my machine that I have downloaded from a POP server. I would really like to be able to delete repeated parts of threads, add notes on how I responded, etc. Nobody else will ever see it. Another change that would help with the same issues would be the ability to save the reply message in the same folder with the received message, rather than having it automatically go to the Sent folder. Regards, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Edit an existing email?
On Wed, 2015-03-11 at 15:26 +, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: Sometimes I want to add comments to an existing email but I cannot find how to, if possible. I brought this up on this list about 5 years ago and was told that incoming emails should never be edited because there should be a record of exactly what was received. This obviously could be important in some business environments, but it seemed absurd to me because anybody with a little bit of skill can edit the message after it is stored (and fake the timestamp if they want). I still would like this and second your request to have the feature added to evolution, if necessary with an administrative option to inactivate it. Please publish the number here if you put this on bugzilla and I will add a comment. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Edit an existing email?
I guess I don't understand. I sure wouldn't want you to be able to modify a message I sent to you and claim it was my message! And, if it was your message originally, you obviously wouldn't be able to change it once it's on my machine! (Yay POP!) So, why would you want to change a message after the fact? To add a note how the sender thought it appropriate to ask this of you or how you responded to the message. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Eliminating Group by threads
On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 08:40 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: On Wed, 2015-01-14 at 17:41 -0500, George Reeke wrote: I use evolution 2.32.3 as supplied with RedHat Linux 6.6 (and am not in a position to update). Is there some way I can permanently turn off Group by Threads? Hi, trimmed- You can ask for an option (probably just hidden in dconf), though the current evolution has Edit-Preferences-Mail Preferences-General tab-'Apply the same view settings to all folders' option, which might do the trick too. Bye, Milan Dear Milan, Thanks for that hint. My old 2.32.3 has that option also. I will give it a try. GNR __ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Eliminating Group by threads
Dear colleagues, I use evolution 2.32.3 as supplied with RedHat Linux 6.6 (and am not in a position to update). Is there some way I can permanently turn off Group by Threads? This seems to come on perhaps by default for new folders but in any event I never want it. I cannot find anything in Preferences or in the gnome configuration editor that would allow me to turn it off or at least make it not the default. I will be happy to edit interface source code files if that is what it would take. Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP
Dear colleagues, On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 05:01 -0600, Bart wrote: snip They use POP because they do not want their mail residing on someone else's computer. I know it passes through other systems, but I have some messages that reside for long periods of time in various email folders for various reasons. And, I feel a lot more secure doing so. If I lose my phone, or my iPad, or my laptop, I don't need to worry about my email accounts. +1 George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Cursor positioning on replies/Reeke
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 11:47 -0800, Brewster Gillett wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 11:25 -0500, George Reeke wrote: Re: Evolution 2.32.3 on RedHat RHEL 6.5 (64-bit). Everything works fine except I notice when I open a reply window, the cursor sits at the upper left of the window as it should (for top-reply used with everything but these lists), snip bg: The reason that almost every email program places the cursor at the beginning of the backquote is probably one of the most widely misunderstood phenomena on the Net. It is placed there because the idea is to allow the replier to scroll down through the backquote, snipping out everything but the couple-three lines relevant to their reply, then launching their reply *below* that. Brewster (user of email since 1981) I understand and appreciate the philosophy you have explained about why this feature works the way it does. However, it does not work the way I need to work with numerous colleagues who want top posting. This is open-source software and one reason I use it is so I can modify what is troublesome for me. So I was planning to code this to my liking and the purpose of my posting was to see if I could get some hints about where to start looking. I was assuming it would be in the .ui files, but if it is in some C or C++ source code, it would help to know that as well, as in that case I might not decide not to bother. All the best, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Cursor positioning on replies
Dear Colleagues, Re: Evolution 2.32.3 on RedHat RHEL 6.5 (64-bit). I just upgraded from RedHat 5 to 6 which runs evolution 2.32.3 Everything works fine except I notice when I open a reply window, the cursor sits at the upper left of the window as it should (for top-reply used with everything but these lists), but, unlike the older 2.12, it does not add a couple of carriage returns, so if I don't look I start typing at the beginning of the message being replied to rather than on a clean line. Anybody know how to make it add the blank line or lines? (I am OK with editing the .ui files if that is what it takes, I just don't know where to look.) [Please refrain from telling me this is an ancient version -- this is the latest RedHat release and I know better than to try to upgrade evolution in the RedHat gnome environment. Thanks.] All the best, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] About performance
Am Montag, den 13.05.2013, 08:30 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: trimmed Or people with *unbelievably* ancient versions. Every time I see someone complaining about 2.32 or even 2.28... my jaw drops. I just don't get it - why do that to yourself? 'coz it runs and does all I expect from it ! Because those are the versions supplied by RedHat, who provide paid support for people like me who don't want to fight bugs at the cutting edge. And as you well know, it is virtually impossible to update just evolution in an earlier gnome environment. I long ago gave up trying. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Settings not being retained
Dear Bart et al, On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 16:01 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 10:10 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 16:34 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote: Evolution 3.6.3 on openSuse 12.3 -trimmed In this version of Evolution, the size of the message preview section is not remembered and is shrunken down to the bottom of the main window. This is obviously a new undocumented feature, as it didn't act this way in previous versions. I am hesitant to upgrade the version number as it is not available in the openSuse repositories and I don't want to create any problems. This is not the end of the world, but I'm wondering if it is possible to manually modify the file where current settings are stored, and put in the sizes I wish? Would it stick then? A similar issue was discussed on the list in the last few weeks. Check the list archives. poc Does KDE have something like Gnome's Preferences-Sessions-Save the Current Session button? If so, set the evolution window(s) the way you like and try clicking this and then logging out and in again. It worked for me (on an older version on Gnome). Good luck, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Mail to a list fails on RoadRunner SMTP
Dear colleagues, We use evolution 2.28.3 on CentOS 6.4 (64-bit). We recently switched our ISP from Verizon DSL to Time-Warner cable, with their RoadRunner email service. We receive mail at our own dot-com, hosted by Earthlink--no problem there, but they require us to send outgoing emails via the ISP's SMTP service. My wife has a short mailing list of 12 names to which she tried to send a typical email with a small attachment (120KB), which always worked fine with Verizon's SMTP. The same email sent via RoadRunner SMTP disappears with no trace -- no error message, no return-to-sender. It appears in the evolution Sent folder with apparently correct address formatting. When sent as separate emails to the individual addresses, they all receive it. RoadRunner tech support says they don't support evolution--surprise. They also said there are no restrictions on outgoing SMTP, but I am guessing there is a restriction on the number of addresses on a list. Has anybody seen this and diagnosed it? Any suggestions how to work around it? For example, is there a way I can script the sending to the individual recipients? Thanks for any advice, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to modify toolbar buttons 2.28.3
Dear colleagues, I recently updated my home system to CentOS 6.3, which provides evolution 2.28.3. This does not seem to have the buttons for copy and move on the main mail toolbar. I cannot find anywhere in the documentation or gconf-editor how to configure this toolbar. Can someone help me add buttons to perform these functions? Or just tell me where to find the code so I can fool around with it? [Note: I recall that with an earlier version of evolution some years ago, this could be done by modifying some xml code in a directory somewhere, and I did this and have been happy since, but I no longer have any notes on how that was done and cannot find anything that looks relevant in /usr/share/evolution, and anyway, it may be different now. Also, please don't tell me 2.28.3 is ancient as it is the version supplied with the very latest RedHat (= CentOS) release and I have learned to my sorrow that it is not smart to try to update envolution in that environment.] Thanks, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Problem with Inbox indexing.
On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 18:03 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 17:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 16:10 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: I am using evolution 3.4.3 and periodically I have the problem that the indexing on Inbox gets stuck. That is when I delete a message the counter associated with Inbox does not change. With Evo 2.12.3 (please, I know it's old, it's what RedHat gives me), I see this problem all the time. I found that if I just click on a different mail box, then click back on the one that's stuck, it corrects itself. Maybe worth a try w/newer version since it's so easy. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I prevent Evolution from storing IMAP mails in filesystem?
Dear Thomas et al, On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 08:55 -0500, Thomas Broda wrote: On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:41:57 +0100, Thomas Broda tho...@broda.org wrote: Since I'm paranoid, I dont't want my mails being stored in the local filesystem. Is there any way to prevent Evolution from doing this? I'm paranoid too, so I use POP3 and keep my mail on my own computer instead of on some server I have no control over. (I just had to throw this in as one riposte to all the proclamations on this list that nobody should use POP anymore. But yeah, it's on the server backup somewhere, I suppose.) George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Preview vertical layout
Dear Jerm et al, On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 01:54 -0400, Jerm wrote: Hi there. I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 and thought I'd give Evolution a try. I'm mostly happy except for a things here and there which, no doubt, will eventually push me to another application. For example, I have a wide screen and have set up my preview layout to be vertical instead of the default horizontal. However, Evolution creates a narrow preview pane and a very very wide messages pane which, obviously, is pointless. So I drag the divider to the left, making the preview pane wider. Evolution forgets about this when I re-start it and defaults the preview pane to a super narrow one. Is there a way to fix this? [I sent this reply back on July 5 but it was bounced due to a greylisting problem. I'm sending it again in case my workaround is still of interest to the OP or others. -GNR] Although you have a newer version, this sounds like a problem I have always had with window sizes. Have a look at this posting: http://www.mail-archive.com/evolution-list@gnome.org/msg13662.html [The workaround I found was to eliminate evolution from the automatic startup and start it from the panel icon on each bootup (not so often as to be a real bother). Then, for me at least with evo 2.12.3, it uses the window parameters from last time.] Good luck, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] gconf-edit
Dear colleagues, On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 07:26 -0500, Richard wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 13:11 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 12:37 +1030, Wayne Sierke wrote: Its the left pane with the inbox and all the sub directories that keeep s reverting back to the default. The RH panes seem OK. Curious. I see the same behaviour in 2.32.1 on FreeBSD-7.3 i386/Gnome 2.32.1. Hi, I'm wondering what is your window state when you run evolution. I'm pretty much sure that you have the window maximized, and when you restore it from the maximized state, then you get much smaller window than it is when maximized. Am I right? People whom are not using maximized window or their restored window is approximately the same size as the maximized window don't see an issue of this kind. Hope that helps, Milan Perhaps I can shed some light on this, although I am stuck at evo 2.12.3 as supplied by RedHat 5.6. I found that when I saved my desktop configuration using the gnome preferences, evolution would always come up in some undesirable configuration. After a bunch of inquiries on this list, where I never did find out where config info like window size is kept, one day I shut down evolution before saving the configuration, logging off, and powering down. Now I just leave it that way. So when I start up, there is no evolution window on screen. Then I click the evolution launcher button in the panel at the bottom of the screen and evolution starts up just the way I left it. I shut down seldom enough that this workaround is OK for me. I don't know if this is true with more recent versions; I'd love to hear whether others have had this experience, and if so, again whether anyone knows where this saved desktop info is kept so it could be edited manually. [Yes, I know it is saved in memory when gnome is running-- I tried to find and edit it from a command-line screen with gnome shut down and never got anywhere that way either.] Best wishes, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Preview frame cursor jumping to top after clicking on link
Dear Milan et al, On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 02:46 -0500, Milan Crha wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 17:43 -0500, George Reeke wrote: Dear colleagues, This problem probably more properly should be sent to a RedHat bugzilla because it refers to an older version of evolution, and I will do that, but I am curious first whether others are seeing the same problem. I am still running Evolution 2.12.3 and Gnome 2.16.0, the versions supplied with RedHat Enterprise Linux Server 5.5. This brand-new problem just appeared in the last few days after some RedHat update that as far as I know did not include evolution components. Now, when I left click on a URL link in an email in the preview pane (typically to view an article from a journal contents page email), the cursor jumps to the top of the email. On return from viewing the article, I need to scroll back down to where I was in the contents list. Very annoying. I note that if I instead right-click on the link and then select Open Link in Browser the cursor stays where it was. Anybody else seeing this, whether in RedHat or some other distro? Any ideas what software component might cause this if modified? Hi, this is fixed in actual stable, which is apparently 2.32.1. What you did, I believe, is that you turned on a Caret mode, by pressing F7 (or View-Caret mode in a mailer view). It should behave as before if you turn this off again. Bye, Milan Thanks, indeed I had somehow gotten into caret mode. Sorry to bother everybody on the list with this. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Preview frame cursor jumping to top after clicking on link
Dear colleagues, This problem probably more properly should be sent to a RedHat bugzilla because it refers to an older version of evolution, and I will do that, but I am curious first whether others are seeing the same problem. I am still running Evolution 2.12.3 and Gnome 2.16.0, the versions supplied with RedHat Enterprise Linux Server 5.5. This brand-new problem just appeared in the last few days after some RedHat update that as far as I know did not include evolution components. Now, when I left click on a URL link in an email in the preview pane (typically to view an article from a journal contents page email), the cursor jumps to the top of the email. On return from viewing the article, I need to scroll back down to where I was in the contents list. Very annoying. I note that if I instead right-click on the link and then select Open Link in Browser the cursor stays where it was. Anybody else seeing this, whether in RedHat or some other distro? Any ideas what software component might cause this if modified? Regards, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution systray
Dear colleagues, On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 10:32 -0400, Christian wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 21:53 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: On 14 Aug 2008, at 17:10, tim wrote: i want to say my hat's off to you guys and all you do. i have an idea for the next update of evolution... could you make it so when i close it the program still runs in the systray? i like deluge because it minimizes to the systray and pidgin for the same reason. even rhythmbox too. everything runs great on the program; that's just a feature i am looking forward to. Note that minimising to system tray (at least by using the standard minimise or close buttons) is a behaviour rather frowned upon by GNOME's usability folks, however :) Minimise buttons should minimise, and close buttons should close. If you want to add a button that does something else, then fine, do that and call it something else. But please don't make the minimise or close buttons do things they're not supposed to... Cheeri, Calum. An option to set what the close button does (close/minimize) is all it takes. Several programs have that option both on Linux and Windows. If you want to follow the advice of the usability crowd don't enable this option. I'm using alltray and have edited the menu to open Evo in the tray (or is it called notification area these days?) using alltray. Personally I do not not care who frowns of what as long as it works for me! :) Why not use Workspace Switcher and leave evolution in a separate workspace window? You can get to it and back with a simple click and it's always open but out of the way when not needed. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution sent email location
Dear Arnaud and colleagues, On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 15:15 -0400, Arnaud G wrote: Hi, I switched from KDE (Debian+KDE) to Ubuntu 10.04 (GNOME). I used KMail and now Evolution. One feature I cannot find in evolution is the following. In KMail, I had the option to put my reply in the same folder as the original message. ie: When I was replying to message A, the reply, message B was in the same folder as message A. In evolution, message B is in the sent folder. I do not see an option to achieve the desired goal. Am I overlooking something? If someone knows how to do it, it would be greatly appreciated to share your knowledge. Tx in advance A As far as I know, there is no way at present to do this. Consider this email a strong vote in favor of your suggestion. I requested this several years ago and nothing was done about it. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 15:21 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 18:34 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: Personal Reply Non-Munged List Munged List w/o Option Munged List with Option Ctrl-R to RT to RT to RT to SA Ctrl-L to RT+CCto LP to LP to LP Shift-Ctrl-Rto RT+CCto LP+CCto RT+CCto LP+CC Rest snipped. I've been trying to follow all this but am missing a key concept-- could someone just tell me and anybody else who doesn't already know: what is a munged list? And there seems to be mention of multiple kinds of munged lists, which is even more confusing. Thanks, G.Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to make Evolution remember its main window size--revisited
Dear colleagues, I am adding to this thread from last summer because a new piece of information has come to light which might help someone give me the answer. The problem was and is that, at least in RedHat EL5 with Evo 2.12.3, after a reboot, Evo comes up with a small default window size. After it is resized, the new size comes back when Evo dies, as it does about twice a day, and is restarted from its panel icon. Previous posts on this list mostly suggested using gconf editor to adjust the window size. In my hands, the size set in this manner was not remembered. The new information is this: I noticed that the small window only comes up when Evo is on the desktop and the desktop setup is remembered so Evo starts up automatically after the reboot and restart of X. If I remove Evo from the remembered setup [I'm not sure what I did to cause this, it just disappeared recently], i.e. so Evo does not come up automatically when startx is done, then start Evo from the control panel icon, it comes up with the correct larger window size that I set it to last time. Does this make sense to anybody? It looks like the remembered startup configuration is stored somewhere with a wrong window size, and if I could find and edit that, instead of the startup window size set in gconf editor and used when starting from the panel icon, then everything would be OK. Many thanks for any insight on this, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] File CC option
Dear List, On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 05:16 -0500, Anderson Luiz Perazzoli wrote: 2009/12/12 Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com: On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:37 -0200, Anderson Luiz Perazzoli wrote: I am a Thunderbird user and decided to give Evolution a try. I think I could adopt Evolution for my daily use if I can find a way to be able to choose, when typing a new message, which folder the message shall be saved to (instead of the default 'Sent' folder). In Thunderbird I accomplish this by using the excellent TB Change From and Fcc on Compose plugin. Does Evolution (or a plugin for it) offer this functionality? I have searched extensively but found nothing. Not currently but I've been thinking about implementing this. It would be another header field in the composer window (beneath From, Subject, To, etc.) and hidden by default, but I'm still thinking through what the drop-down menu should look like. No promises on an ETA. It will be when I find time. Matthew Barnes ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-listusers will benefit from it. Thanks for the answer. As a suggestion, please have a look at the screenshot attached to this message. It show how the Thunderbird Extension I mentioned works. Besides selecting which folder you want to salve, from the folder list, In case you are replying, forwarding, or editing a message as original, it allows to use the same folder as that message. In this case also allows to move the original message along with the one you're sending (for example, if you have a message in your inbox, when you reply it, you can move both the reply and the original message to the same folder by flagging the move orig. mesg. checkbox) Of course it is only a suggestion, but I have a feeling many users would benefit from it. Let me know if I can be of any more help. Thanks and Best Regards. Anderson This suggestion has been around for a while. See, for example, http://www.mail-archive.com/evolution-list@gnome.org/msg04095.html (from August 2006). I thought I had added this to the bugzilla features-requested list, but I can't find it there. What I was asking for then is pretty much the same as, or a subset of, what Anderson describes: I would like the default place where an outgoing Reply is filed would be the same folder where the message being replied to is filed. I guess this would require either holding the reply for filing at the same time as the incoming is filed (usually after the reply is sent), or else using a drop-down to select where both will be filed while still writing the reply, or thirdly, looking in the user's contact list to see where mail from a given correspondent should be filed and requesting a folder selection only if not found there. Regards, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Send and Receive hanging
Dear colleagues: On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 03:45 -0500, Jeremy Bennett wrote: I'm running Evolution 2.26.3 under Fedora 11. I notice that send receive frequently hangs when getting mail from my two most active POP3 accounts. The curious thing is that it invariably hangs when fetching message 12. This has been going on for some time, including with older versions of Evolution under Fedora 9. I can request the transfer to be cancelled, and it will show failed at message 12 of xxx (but still show Fetching Mail (...), or it will eventually time out. Once it has timed out, send receive will retrieve the rest of the mail (possibly hanging at message 12 again). Has anyone else seen this behavior? I'd like to file a bug report. When this behavior happens, how can I get Evolution to terminate with trace information to attach to the bug report? Advice much appreciated. Jeremy FWIW, my university just switched from a sendmail server to Microsoft Exchange Server and now I am seeing the phenomenon reported by Jeremy. I never saw this happen with the sendmail server. (I am using POP2 and evolution 2.12.3 because locked in to RedHat 5.) In my case, Evolution stalls usually on mail #26. Upon cancelling and restarting, it downloads the rest of the email OK. So anyone looking to debug this might see whether it is something specific to the way Microsoft implements the POP protocol. Best to all, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] top versus bottom posting and thecontrol-Lfunction
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 22:34 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 04:23:28 -0400, Art Alexion escribió: This, using Evo, is required because in business I have to use an Exchange server with IMAP and SMTP disabled. Matthais, Weren't you the one chastising me for using a work-mandated Blackberry? Don't know, because my name is Matthias; but, yes, I have to use Evo for work, but not for OpenSource mailing list like this here; and I do use Evo at work it in a netiquette style; matthias Could we please drop this thread about top vs bottom posting and which editor is better--I think the issues have been hashed out well enough for most of us on this list. Thanks, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Changing Port 25 to Port 587
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 08:12 -0700, John Maxwell wrote: Adam, I have tried all of those variations including mail.XXX.com:587, smtp.XXX.com:587 and restarting the machine between changes, unfortunately they have not worked. Originally mail.XXX.com worked for years before Verizon made the changes Monday. My email server is at my old ISP that we have used for years. A call to them revealed that mail.XXX.com is the proper syntax and if the email client needs port 587 then it resides with the client and the host isp. On the windows side Eudora 7 and outlook express made the conversion fine but if tried thunderbird and it exhibits the same problem. An interesting problem. John --irrelevant material cut--- Maybe port 587 is blocked by the firewall on your client machine. George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] save button and shortcuts
Dear Jay list, On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 06:40 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 21:29 -0400, Jay Daniels wrote: I need a save button in evo so when i click this save button, poof! it saved or actually moved to my saved folder automatically. Furthermore, I would like to be able to edit the toolbar buttons. At least move that damn Junk button away from the Delete button. Yes, that would be nice. I just want to remove the *(@*(*...@# Junk button. Hey, what happen to the old style shortcuts like the ximian gnome evolution? and what happened to the start screen with number of messages, task, and weather? I recall much debate about the removal of that feature; it was dropped a very long time ago (2.0?). quote Q: What happened to the Summary in Evolution 2.0? A: The user interface was redesigned in Evolution 2.0 and the Summary was removed from the product. Q: Where is the Shortcut bar in Evolution 2.0? A: The user interface was redesigned in Evolution 2.0 and the shortcut bar was removed. /quote The above is from http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15262.html which answers the question but is itself scandalously out of date. It seems Evolution in Ubuntu Hardy and Jaunty has been stripped of these old features or in each new version they do away with something else. I wish Evolution was the way it was... http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/applications/internet/mail/gnome220redhat9-1-1.png I don't wish that; Evolution is much more stable now than it was then. I am stuck in evolution 2.12 because that is the latest version distributed with RedHat EL5. In that version, the setup of these buttons is in /usr/share/evolution/2.12/ui/evolution-mail-message.xml. I was able to delete the junk button and make other changes--it is sort of intuitive if you read the file carefully (and I know nothing about xml except what I see there). I suggest you play with it and try to get the effects you want. Of course, if you have a different version of evolution, this file may have been moved (try changing the 2.12 in the path name above to the version you have). Hope it works for you, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] suggestion for evolution
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 19:42 -0500, C de-Avillez wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 08:17 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: Work offline should be transparent to the user. jay Besides, there's already an indicator of 'work offline' (a disconnected plug at the bottom-left). Its obvious what it means once you think to look. I dispute the obvious part. It is *obvious* to those that know what to look for, *not* to the casual user. And, before you raise the issue, I am *NOT* a casual user. But it is not, by a long shot, obvious once one thinks to look. Apart from the prejudice (from the latin, pre judice, to judge in advance [before knowing the facts]), your statement is overly aggressive, implying the original poster does (or did) not think, or want(ed) to. Please be more courteous. Everybody will enjoy more your knowledge this way. Also, please keep in mind those that know more are here to direct, instruct, and pass knowledge, to those that know less. In a nice way. And I think the original poster does have a point. Regards, FWIW, I too was stymied by the unobviousness of this icon for a day or so when I started using evolution. I support the original poster's suggestion. Alternatively, the words OFF LINE (in red and translated to national language if necessary) instead of that icon would be better. Regards, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to make Evolution remember its main window size--revisited
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 18:59 -0700, N B Day wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 18:08 -0400, George Reeke wrote: lots of deletion Thanks, George Reeke Here is the text of my error message: The application gconf-editor attempted to change an aspect of your configuration that your system administrator or operating system vendor does not allow you to change. Some of the settings you have selected may not take effect, or may not be restored next time you use the application. No database available to save your configuration: Unable to store a value at key '/apps/evolution/shell/view_defaults/height', as the configuration server has no writable databases. There are some common causes of this problem: 1) your configuration path file /etc/gconf/2/ path doesn't contain any databases or wasn't found 2) somehow we mistakenly created two gconfd processes 3) your operating system is misconfigured so NFS file locking doesn't work in your home directory or 4) your NFS client machine crashed and didn't properly notify the server on reboot that file locks should be dropped. If you have two gconfd processes (or had two at the time the second was launched), logging out, killing all copies of gconfd, and logging back in may help. If you have stale locks, remove ~/.gconf*/*lock. Perhaps the problem is that you attempted to use GConf from two machines at once, and ORBit still has its default configuration that prevents remote CORBA connections - put ORBIIOPIPv4=1 in /etc/orbitrc. As always, check the user.* syslog for details on problems gconfd encountered. There can only be one gconfd per home directory, and it must own a lockfile in ~/.gconfd and also lockfiles in individual storage locations such as ~/.gconf I think at this point I'd leave Gnome entirely for TWM or KDE or whatever else you have on your machine, shut down gconftool-2 with gconftool-2 --shutdown, do the same for evolution, evolution --force-shutdown, and then try setting my desired values with gconf-editor. Interesting idea, but no cigar. I don't have KDE installed, TWM is installed but I have never used it and when I do try to start it up it fails with a message that it cannot open the display. I have no interest in debugging this problem. Anyway, what reason is there to think gconf-editor would work outside the gnome environment for which it was designed? This seems a bit of a stab in the dark. I noticed a similar new thread on this topic today. Perhaps someone can answer my original question: where are the defaults stored? I would be much happier bold-force editing them in a few minutes than all this time trying to get fancy Windows- imitating tools to work that I really am not interested in. Just in case anybody is interested, I tried editing the $(HOME)/.gconf/apps/evolution/shell/view_defaults/%gconf.xml file where these parameters seem to be stored when the window is changed with the mouse, then setting it to be unmodifiable with chattr +i. Guess what happened? I exited gnome and restarted, the evolution window again came up small, and now there was a new file called %gconf.xml.new in this directory with the small height and width, and the old file with my settings of course still there because it could not be touched. So some programmer somewhere really very badly did not want me to modify this file. I really would like to understand the reasoning behind this. If I made the .new file untouchable, would it make a .new2? How deep would this go? Where are the numbers coming from that it keeps writing into this file? Just curious, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to make Evolution remember its main window size--revisited
Dear Matthew, Suman et al., On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 09:05 +0530, Suman Manjunath wrote: 2009/6/10 Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com: On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 17:43 -0400, George Reeke wrote: Thanks for your suggestion. For me, it doesn't work. I killed evolution, changed the height and width in gconf editor in two places, since the names are not unambiguous: apps/evolution/mail/message_window and apps/evolution/shell/view_defaults Restarted evolution: New sizes took effect. Shut down evolution, rebooted computer--old small size is back again. Check your ~/.gconf directory permissions (including subdirectories) and make sure they are writable. What you describe sounds like the GConf daemon process (gconfd-2) is unable to write its in-memory settings to disk when the desktop session is ending, which would explain why your settings are retained during the session but lost on reboot. Unlikely. IMO, you need to set the values as default after changing them. Open gconf-editor, change the values of view_default sizes, right click on those values and click on Set as default (and/or Set as mandatory). These values should be retained over multiple sessions. -Suman First, my reply to Matthew: Yes, every component of the path is writeable. Like I said, if I make the %gconf.xml file nonwriteable to try to save my hand-edited changes, it changes back to writeable and writes the small window size back in there, so I guess there is no way it could in fact be nonwriteable, even on purpose. Actually, I am tempted to change the ownership to root and then make it nonwriteable and see whether my poor little changes will stay where I put them. My reply to Suman: Thanks for pointing out that save as default item. It is so obscure on that right-click menu that I never saw it. Stupid me. Anyway, that is no help. When I try it, I get a long error message, reproduced below for anybody interested. Here are my responses to the suggestions given in that error message: ...attempted to change an aspect of your configuration that your system administrator or operating system vendor does not allow you to change. I AM the system administrator. I didn't tell it to forbid me to change anything. I doubt RedHat did. (1) Path /etc/gconf/2/path is there and contents look reasonable as far as I can tell given no documentation. I looked in all the files pointed to by the configuration files in that path, and none have any actual numerical values for any height or width parameters. (2) somehow we mistakenly created two gconfd processes. BINGO. Actually, there are no gconfd processes running, but there is a gconfd-2 and a gconf-editor when I am trying to edit. I rebooted and found out that gconfd-2 comes up as soon as I start my gnome session, without my doing anything except to run ps in a terminal window. That is apparently the gconfd-2 that Matthew referred to. I guess it is supposed to be running, but anyway, if I kill it and run the gconf editor and make my height and width changes again, still I get this same error message when I try to make them the defaults. Evolution again comes up small, so this thing about two processes is apparently irrelevant. (3 and 4) Something about NFS locking. There is no NFS access involved here. So I am still stumped. Gee, you would think if a user did something as simple as change a window size (to a nonridiculous value that works) it would get written in a configuration file somewhere and just stay that way. I'm beginning to think those built-in defaults are hard coded in the source somewhere, since I can't find them and nobody seems to be able to tell me where they come from. Any more ideas or suggestions? Thanks, George Reeke Here is the text of my error message: The application gconf-editor attempted to change an aspect of your configuration that your system administrator or operating system vendor does not allow you to change. Some of the settings you have selected may not take effect, or may not be restored next time you use the application. No database available to save your configuration: Unable to store a value at key '/apps/evolution/shell/view_defaults/height', as the configuration server has no writable databases. There are some common causes of this problem: 1) your configuration path file /etc/gconf/2/ path doesn't contain any databases or wasn't found 2) somehow we mistakenly created two gconfd processes 3) your operating system is misconfigured so NFS file locking doesn't work in your home directory or 4) your NFS client machine crashed and didn't properly notify the server on reboot that file locks should be dropped. If you have two gconfd processes (or had two at the time the second was launched), logging out, killing all copies of gconfd, and logging back in may help. If you have stale locks, remove ~/.gconf*/*lock. Perhaps the problem is that you attempted to use GConf from two machines at once, and ORBit still has its
[Evolution] How to make Evolution remember its main window size--revisited
Dear colleagues, There are many postings on this topic in the list archives, so don't read this if it bores you, but I can't find a usable answer there, so I will bring it up again with a note on how I tried and failed to solve the problem, in the hope that this idea will tickle someone to speak up who has the final little bit of information we need to defeat this beast. (I am stuck at Evolution 2.12.3 due to using RedHat EL 5.3, gnome-desktop and metacity 2.16.0, but I'm guessing this is the same in more recent versions judging by the ancient archive postings.) When I start evolution after a reboot, the main window comes up too small. I adjust it and it stays that way, even if restarted, for the rest of the session, but does not remember between sessions, at least not all the time. Taking the attitude that I don't really care if this is an evolution or a window manager issue, I just wanted to fix it, so I went poking around in all the hidden files in my home directory, and in ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/shell/view-defaults there is a file called %gconf.xml that has entries called 'height' and 'width'. This seems to be where it stores the window size. If I kill evolution (with --force-shutdown), edit these entries, and start evolution up again, most of the time it just resets to the old small window size and edits these entries back to what they were. But strangely, I can find magic numbers that are obeyed and stay put for the rest of the session. New session-- old numbers back again. I tried changing the file mode to 444, but some code somewhere changes it back to 600 and I am again defeated. Obviously, what I need to fix this problem without delving into the code is just to know where the global defaults are stored so I can edit them. I looked in /usr/share/evolution (I have root access) but could not find what I was looking for there. So: Desperate plea: Does somebody know where the global default window size is stored, so I and everybody else with this problem can edit it and not have it automagically turn back to the original small size?? Thanks and the best to all, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I make Evo to recognize xslx files should be opened with OpenOffice?
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:17 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: Jim McKean wrote: When I get an attachment with one of the newer MS formats (like *.xlsx), evolution does not recognize that it can open them with OpenOffice. It only give me the option to save them or open with text editor. If I save them, Ubuntu has no problem recognizing that OpenOffice can open them. But most of the time, I just want to see what's in them, not keep them in my file system. What do I need to do to allow me to click on them to open while in Evo? use nautilus to associate an application with the filetype This question keeps getting asked over and over again. I asked it myself a couple of years ago. Maybe the developers can take a hint that some better documentation would be a good idea. I will add that I choose not to use nautilus--if I wanted a Windows desktop, I would run Windows--so it would really be nice to have an alternative way to make these settings. When a new format comes along, I have to run nautilus to register it, then log out and in again to get rid of nautilus. In my view, nautilus has nothing to do with email and it should not be necessary to run it to set up one's email preferences. I realize this is a philosophical argument with the developers that I will lose, but I wanted to say it anyway. Regards to all. George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution crashing randomly
On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 15:16 +, Tom H wrote: Hi, over the last few days, evolution has taken to crashing - the app just disappears a few seconds after start-up. This seems to be triggered by events like clicking on emails or moving mails about, and doesn't seem to be specific to a particular problem email. If I start with the debug flag, it still crashes no interesting errors are recorded; evolution-shell-Message: Killing old version of evolution-data-server... ** (evolution:8513): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution --component=mail %s ** (evolution:8513): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution [local...@localhost ~]$ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 11 23:14:31 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [local...@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 10 (Cambridge) [local...@localhost ~]$ evolution -version Unknown option -version Run 'evolution --help' to see a full list of available command line options. [local...@localhost ~]$ evolution --version GNOME evolution 2.24.4 [local...@localhost ~]$ rpm -qi evolution Name: evolutionRelocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.24.4Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 1.fc10Build Date: Fri 30 Jan 2009 22:21:36 GMT Install Date: Wed 25 Feb 2009 20:05:26 GMT Build Host: x86-4.fedora.phx.redhat.com Group : Applications/Productivity Source RPM: evolution-2.24.4-1.fc10.src.rpm Size: 39833758 License: GPLv2 and GFDL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Thu 19 Feb 2009 11:43:38 GMT, Key ID bf226fcc4ebfc273 Packager: Fedora Project URL : http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ Summary : Mail and calendar client for GNOME Description : Evolution is the GNOME mailer, calendar, contact manager and communications tool. The components which make up Evolution are tightly integrated with one another and act as a seamless personal information-management tool. Any ideas? Thanks, Tom H Dear Tom and list, I have had what appears to be the same problem for some time with evo 2.12.3 as suppled with RedHat EL 5.3 (64-bit smp), except it can happen well after evolution starts, basically anytime the mouse is moved. (My system is a Lenovo T61 laptap if that matters.) Because this is an older version, I did not place a bug with the evolution folks, but instead with the RedHat bugzilla. They don't seem very interested. What I have to add to your note is this: Each time this happens, I get a core dump. You may not if you have dumps turned off in your shell preferences (.cshrc or whatever). I did not install the debug source, so these dumps are sort of useless, but if somebody would find a dump useful for debugging, please let me know what packages are needed to install the debug versions and I will send the first dump I get to you. Also, please let me know whether it is appropriate to file a bug for 2.12.3 with the evolution bugzilla. Anybody else having this problem? George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evaluating Evolution- some basic questions [about the forced hyphens in signatures]
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 13:11 +1100, Nick Jenkins wrote: Second, note the one hyphen in my signature above the longer series below? I can't get rid of that hovering hyphen. I've edited my signature, of course, but that hovering hyphen doesn't appear there. How can I get rid of that? I have a simple method of avoiding the hyphen issue that others might find useful: I don't use the signature feature of evolution. Instead, I have a selection of various signature files (like the one below) in my home directory. To add a signature to a mail I am composing, I use the Insert button and insert the signature as a text file (I never send html mail). Then the software doesn't know it is a signature, but the recipient sees it as such. Of course, this might take too long if you send dozens of emails every day. George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 phone: (212)-327-7627 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Displaying .docx attachments?
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 12:21 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 16:56 +0100, Svante R Signell wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 15:09 +0100, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 14:35 +0100, Svante R Signell wrote: Thank you for the information. I know it works by saving the attachment to disk and opening it in Openoffice. My question was how to configure evolution to get this alternative by right-clicking on the attachment. Now the only option is to save to disk. Sorry for being unclear. Follow that for the first attachment and subsequent attachments of that type will offer to open in the application you've chosen. Thanks. So you have to use Nautilus to get the expected behaviour in Evolution. Maybe this should be mentioned in the Evolution Users Guide. I did not find it there or with a quick Googling either. Actually I think the idea is that you *can* use Nautilus, which is probably the easiest way for Gnome users. All Nautilus is doing is modifying a setting somewhere. Perhaps someone knowledgeable can tell us where. poc I too have had this problem, so I will add what I have learned and maybe somebody else can clarify further. I too do not run Nautilus unless I have to turn it on just for this purpose. (I will omit the obvious polemic on this topic). The information on mime types and applications that can process them is kept in .desktop files. These are found in many places, for example, on my system, here is a partial list: /usr/share/gnome/autostart /usr/share/gnome/wm-properties /usr/share/mimelnk/application /usr/share/xsessions /usr/share/applications /usr/java/jre1.6.0_04/lib/desktop/applications /usr/java/jre1.6.0_04/plugin/desktop /usr/local/share/applications $(HOME)/.config/autostart $(HOME)/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers $(HOME)/.local/share/applications Looking in these files, one can see what the format is supposed to be and try to add new application--file type associations. I believe the appropriate places are /usr/share/applications for global associations and $(HOME)/.local/share/applications for associations for the one user. I have tried this a few times and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Using nautilus seems more reliable, but I could never figure out what I was doing wrong. That having been said, here is a question for somebody more knowledgeable than me: There are several file types on my system (.doc, .pdf) where the exact same application shows up two or three times on the evolution right-click menu. How can I get rid of these duplicates? I don't see any way to do this in nautilus. Regards, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] To address completion question
To the list, I am looking for a feature in evolution, independent of the autocompletion that uses the address book, that would automatically tack on @myinstitution.edu (i.e. a configurable domain) if a To: (or cc: or bcc:) address as typed does not contain @. (I don't really want to add all the hundreds of people I might write to some day to my address book, nor is there a simple way to do so if I did want to.). I don't see this in the docs or archives. Before I put it on the feature-requested list, I was just wondering whether there is already a way to do this. (I am at evolution 2.12.3 due to using RedHat EL 5, but of course I would be interested if any newer version has this feature.) Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Making notification box go away
Dear colleagues, [I have evol 2.12.3 on a RedHat EL 5 smp 64-bit system] Recently evolution started popping up a notification box when mail is received. I don't want this because I only get email by clicking the Send/Receive button. I read the archives but I still can't get rid of it. Long version: I ticked Do not notify me when new mail arrives in Mail Preferences (it was already ticked) and this did nothing. (The other two options also had no effect when tested.) I also ran the gconf (gnome configuration) editor and unticked blink-status-icon and notification in apps-evolution-mail- notification, logged out and in again, and the next time I got mail, that box still popped up. I finally got rid of it by going in as root to /usr/libexec/evolution/2.12 and removing the executable bits from the program evolution-alarm-notify. But I doubt this is the approved way to do it. I saw an item in the archives to uncheck Mail notification and New mail notification in the Edit-Plugins menu, which I had not previously noticed. I did this and the notifications stopped. But after exiting evolution and starting it again, these boxes magically rechecked themselves. Now an icon appears on my screen when I get new mail, although without the big popup (presumably because of the executable bits I cleared). Checking with ps indicates this icon is probably /usr/libexec/notification-area-applet, which I hesitate to get rid of because it may be the mechanism that provides RedHat patch popups. Did I miss something somewhere? What is the official way to turn off this notification box? Why do none of the three preference options work? Is there a configuration file somewhere that I can edit manually to clean up some option that is SNAFU? Is this a bug in 2.12.3 or an ongoing problem? Developers: I will put in an enhancement request that all three ways to express this preference should actually work, unless somebody tells me it as already been fixed in later releases. (I cannot upgrade because of RedHat conflicts.) Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Making notification box go away
Dear Matthew et al., The first time I tried that, as I said, the unchecked boxes came back checked when I restarted. But I cannot reproduce that problem, and the notification is gone, so I guess end of story. Thanks for your help. George Reeke On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:42 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:04 -0500, George Reeke wrote: Dear colleagues, [I have evol 2.12.3 on a RedHat EL 5 smp 64-bit system] Recently evolution started popping up a notification box when mail is received. I don't want this because I only get email by clicking the Send/Receive button. I read the archives but I still can't get rid of it. 1. Edit - Plugins 2. Uncheck Mail Notification. 3. Restart Evolution, just to be sure. That should be all you need to do. If the Mail Notification plugin re-enables itself on start up then that's a bug. Matthew Barnes ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Move/Copy buttons
TWIMC, (I know this has come up before--I've posted on it myself some time ago--but I can't find the answer after searching the archives for an hour, so I hope someone can help me...) I just updated from RedHat EL4 to EL5, which now gives me Evolution 2.12.3 instead of 2.0.x that I had before. So now the Move and Copy buttons are gone from what I guess is called the toolbar. In their places are Junk and NotJunk buttons that I don't want or use because spam is filtered by my server. Can someone just tell me if there is a place to configure these buttons in 2.12, if not with a tool, then where is the xml file that I can play with? Sample code to put back the Move button would be even nicer. Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Position of highlight in preview pane
TWIMC, I just upgraded from Evo 2.0.x to 2.12.3 (under RedHat EL5 smp). Now every time I download new mail (POP server), the highlighted line in the preview pane jumps to the first (oldest) item there. It used to go to the first of the new mails, or maybe the last old mail I viewed, I'm not sure which. The new behavior is useless and annoying. Is there any way to restore the previous behavior, (preferably, to make the highlight stay right where it was before the download)? (I looked in the help and the list archives with no luck-- lots of items about caret mode and the position of the cursor in a mail item, but I am talking about the list of mails at the top of the preview pane, not any particular mail item.) Thanks for any help, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Move/Copy buttons
Dear Scott (cc list), Thanks a million. I took out the Junk/NotJunk, put in the MessageMove and MessageCopy, and it works just as I hoped. Best regards, George Reeke On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 15:51 -0500, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: This is from an earlier email, I put this in between MessageDelete MessageMarkAsJunk, toolitem name=MessageMove verb= _label=Move pixtype=pixbuf/ ...and the icon looks like it did in 2.4 (pixbuf must be where the theme icons are??) On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 11:40 -0500, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2006-April/msg0.html = On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 16:09 -0400, George Reeke wrote: TWIMC, (I know this has come up before--I've posted on it myself some time ago--but I can't find the answer after searching the archives for an hour, so I hope someone can help me...) I just updated from RedHat EL4 to EL5, which now gives me Evolution 2.12.3 instead of 2.0.x that I had before. So now the Move and Copy buttons are gone from what I guess is called the toolbar. In their places are Junk and NotJunk buttons that I don't want or use because spam is filtered by my server. Can someone just tell me if there is a place to configure these buttons in 2.12, if not with a tool, then where is the xml file that I can play with? Sample code to put back the Move button would be even nicer. Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution -g +x+y ??
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 12:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 11:08 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi Mathew; On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 10:25 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 12:43 -0400, William Case wrote: Is it possible to set the x and y geometry for evolution in gconf-editor or on the command line? [snip] Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I am trying to avoid using SCIM. I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Are you referring to setting the initial screen coordinates of Evolution's main window, and remembering it from session to session? Yes. Unfortunately each application has to implement this themselves. Evolution currently stores its main window /dimensions/ and maximize state, but not the screen coordinates. But they could easily be added. Yes Apologies if I misunderstood. I'm not sure how SCIM is related. Neither am I. But that was the advice I was given a year or so ago. I looked at SCIM; didn't really understand it and didn't want to; but if it was applicable, it seemed like a lot of work just to get a window placement on first opening of Evolution. Without going into a long description of how I prefer to work with Evolution or why, every time I re-boot into Linux (or close and open Evolution) I have to move Evolution around on the screen to get it placed where I want. Since I use a tight fit, its a fair amount of dicking and nudging to get it exactly on the screen where I want it. All the other programs I have set to load at startup allow Xwindows geometry, or something, that lets me specify the exact screen position. Gconf.d keys, default mode, lets me set the window size and panel sizes but not the screen position. All my other applications allow me to pre-set their +x+y (pixel count screen position) coordinates. If there is no other way, should I make this a feature request? I always have Evo in the same position without doing anything special. Maybe it depends on your desktop. I use KDE but I don't recall doing anything in particular to set it up. poc Using gnome, I just put it where I want it, then log out after clicking the Save current setup button on the logout dialog. Now on every login, it comes back in the same place. (The position of the ULHC, but not the size, is preserved. Sounds like you already have a way to get the size you want, so maybe 1+1=2 here.) George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How can I correct Evolution's list of available printers?
Dear colleagues, Can someone tell me where Evolution (on Linux and gnome) gets the list of printers it displays when you click the Print button--or more precisely, how to correct that information when it is incomplete? I have two RHEL 4 systems (stuck on Evo 2.0.2 I'm afraid, but hopefully this detail has not changed), both using cups printing (working in other applications). One Evo displays the available cups printers, the other does not--just the default Generic Postscript and Create a PDF Document printers. The only differences I can think of that might be relevant are that the system that works is 32-bit and the user does not run Nautilus, whereas the system that does not work is 64-bit SMP and the user does run Nautilus. The /etc/cups/cupsd.conf files have the same default Browse settings. Both have similar model HP LaserJets and other dissimilar printers. Sorry if this is a FAQ--I couldn't find the answer in the docs or by googling or by comparing files in /usr/share/libgnomeprint and users' .gnome, .gnome2, and .evolution. Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to write in letters that have come in the In-Box
On Fri, 2007-08-17 at 09:56 +0530, ritz wrote: Hello On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 21:34 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 21:11 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would support a facility for annotations (or memos if you prefer) as long as it can be done in a cross-platform way. Rest of message clipped-- Memos and annotations won't do it. I want to be able to delete unwanted attachments, delete html copies of plain text email, delete earlier contributions to a thread that I have already stored in the same folder, etc. etc. I appreciate that this can only reasonably be done with downloaded emails ala POP3 as O'Callaghan already noted. Since having this facility is a key reason for continuing to use POP3, I respectfully disagree with those posters who believe the same facilities should be supported for all server protocols. George Reeke, Ph.D. Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10021 phone: (212)-327-7627 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to write in letters that have come in the In-Box
Dear Dinbandhu (and list), I brought up this same subject on this list a couple of years ago. I was told that this will never be put in evolution. It seems the developers have (had at that time?) a strong moral stance that one should not be able to edit incoming mail, but only preserve an exact copy of it. You can't even delete unwanted attachments easily. I surmise that this is because in certain corporate contexts, one might need unaltered copies for legal purposes. I consider that this position is ridiculous, because anybody who wants to alter an incoming email can do so with a text editor. So it is just a matter of convenience, not of principle. Those of us who would like to write notes to ourselves, who are not concerned with legal issues, should be able to do so. The proposal I made at the time, which I hoped would satisfy both kinds of users, was ignored. Let me suggest it again; I still think it is a good idea: Why not have a configuration option in evolution that could be changed only by the root user (at install time) that would either allow or disallow the editing of incoming mails? That way, those of us who administer our own systems could have this feature if we want it; those in organizations where software is centrally administered could be duly deprived of it. Naturally, this would apply to mail downloaded via POP3; I have no idea whether it is workable with IMAP. Any more discussion? George Reeke, Ph.D. Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10021 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 09:52 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote: If someone could reply on this below point I would be very grateful. It really has a lot of value and I need to know how to do it. Thanks! -- Is there a way in Evolution to write notes for myself in letters that others have written to me? That is, letters that have come in to my in-box, can I write comments to myself in them? For example, say someone has written a letter to me in Spanish or some other language which is not my own. If there is a word in their letter which I do not know and I look it up in the dictionary, can I then write that definition into their letter as a note to myself? That way, whenever I re-open their letter in the future to read it, I will be able to see that I looked up the word and wrote its meaning right there in the letter. So obviously, I do not refer to when one click's on reply to the letter. But rather, being able to write right inside their letter itself. Many thanks, Swarup ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Low-contrast (dim) display of forwarded messages
Dear Chris, Thanks, problem solved. G. Reeke On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 11:21 -0400, Chris Williams wrote: Hi George, My wife uses evolution email (details below) and all received forwarded mails appear in the preview window in very low contrast, such that they are almost unreadable. These are just ASCII text, not html. The surrounding text (the message by the sender who forwarded the mail, headers, signature, everything else on the desktop) looks normal. Anybody have any idea how to make these text inserts appear in the normal font or contrast level? Check Preferences - Mail Preferences - General - Highlight quotations with [] color. --chris ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Low-contrast (dim) display of forwarded messages
Dear list members, My wife uses evolution email (details below) and all received forwarded mails appear in the preview window in very low contrast, such that they are almost unreadable. These are just ASCII text, not html. The surrounding text (the message by the sender who forwarded the mail, headers, signature, everything else on the desktop) looks normal. Anybody have any idea how to make these text inserts appear in the normal font or contrast level? (As always, before writing to this list I checked the archives, the gconf configuration editor, and did some googling and could not find a solution.) The problem does not occur with my similar setup on an older IBM laptop. Her setup is Evolution 2.0.2 under Centos 4.4 = RedHat EL 4 (old story--can't upgrade because of numerous library dependencies in RedHat). We have an NVIDIA 7900 series graphics card feeding a new Samsung 940 display via DVI if that matters. Thanks for any help, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Where does Evolution get its mime-type handlers?
Dear Norm and List, I struggled with this for a long time. It seems that there are .desktop files that contain this information. The system-wide ones you can edit as root are in /usr/share/applications and the local ones (individual to each user) are in $HOME/.local/share/applications. If you google around you can find instructions on what goes in these files--I won't try to repeat it all here--or just follow the examples. You will also find information about a bunch of other kinds of files that keep this configuration information, but they seem to be irrelevant in RHEL 4.4 with evolution 2.0.2 (which is what you and I both have). Turns out there is an automatic way to get the information in that I didn't find out about right away because I don't use nautilus. But if you turn on nautilus, you can do this: Store a file of the type in question on your desktop, right click it, tell nautilus what application to use to open it, then nautilus will write the information in your $HOME/.local/share/applications and evolution will use it. Hope this helps, George Reeke On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 08:39 -0500, Norman P. B. Joseph wrote: I'm running Evolution 2.0.2 under RHEL4, and I used to be able to see a list of mime-type handlers when I'd click on the drop-down menu for attachments embedded in the evolution message pane. For example, when a Word doc was attached, the drop-down menu would include an option for opening with Open Office, when a PDF file was attached, the menu would include acroread, and when another email was attached, the menu would include a list of text editors to open the attachments with. Now those options are gone. I only get Save as... as an option for attached documents, and Forward/Reply as options for attached messages. So I'm guessing somewhere a configuration file got trashed or trampled at some point, but I can't seem to figure out where that configuration is. Can anyone here point me in the right direction? I'm not currently subscribed to this list, so I'd appreciate being CC'd on replies. Thanks for any pointers. -norm ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS
The temporary fix given in the link below does not work for those who have updated to firefox 2.0.x because the firefox 1.5.0.10 directory that the link points to does not exist. I hope a more general fix will be available soon. George Reeke On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 15:55 -0600, Jeff Dege wrote: That did it, thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Barnes Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:49 PM To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 15:39 -0600, Jeff Dege wrote: I'm running Centos 4, have been for a year or more. Evolution has worked fine, all that time. This morning, Evolution worked fine. This afternoon, it suddenly stopped. When I run it from the command line, I get: camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS I've seen only a few messages on the Web about this - some folks who seem to be stumbling around in the dark. The oldest of them are from January - apparently it's something fairly recent. Any ideas as to how to fix this? Not having access to my primary email account is a very big deal - I need to get this fixed ASAP. Jeff, It was a blunder in a recent seamonkey update. See http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=229987 for a workaround until the problem is corrected. Matthew Barnes ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] multiple email accounts
Hello list, Anybody working on this, please see also my bug #385130: An account that is disabled isn't really totally disabled, its mere presence can affect the rewriting of From addresses when replying to mail received on the other, enabled, list. George Reeke On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 10:33 -0700, Nicolas Bock wrote: Thanks for the trick. I second this, we would need a location setting. Is there an official wish list somewhere? nick On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 11:03 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 06:58 -0700, Nicolas Bock wrote: Hello list, I have 2 email accounts set up in evolution. One is for work and the other one is my private one. Because we have a firewall around work, I can only access one account at any given time. Either the firewall blocks the private email account when I am at work, or the firewall prevents me from checking my work email when I am at home. When I go online in evolution however, it tries to check both accounts which obviously fails. But it takes evolution quite some time to figure this out. Can I tell it to now check both accounts? Or can I take only one account at a time online? Can I get evolution to check only one account when I click on Send/Receive? Preferences-Mail Accounts-Enable/Disable (tick box). Of course what one really wants is a location setting, which would also change the default SMTP host etc. depending on whether you're at home or at the office. Something for the wish list. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Word Wraping in Message Verticail Preview (Side-bySide)??
Just to add to this discussion, as one who also would like to see word wrap implemented in the preview window: I discovered that when an email comes in where the whole message is on one or a few long lines, I can hit the Reply button. This brings up a version that is word wrapped. I can read it, then cancel the reply. This is entirely illogical and I hope the developers will note that if they can wrap on a reply, they can certainly treat incoming the same way. Thanks, George Reeke On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 23:58 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 17:16 -0500, Saikat Guha wrote: On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 17:51 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: This is a FAQ and AFAIK you can't do it. The wrap boundary appears to be hardwired at 70 characters, which apparently is inscribed in some standard or other. If it's a FAQ, can someone please tell me which standard this is? From RFC-2822 (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html): 2.1.1. Line Length Limits There are two limits that this standard places on the number of characters in a line. Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding the CRLF. The RFC linked does NOT apply. From the RFC: 1.1. Scope ... Note: This standard is not intended to dictate the internal formats used by sites, the specific message system features that they are expected to support, or *any of the characteristics of user interface programs that create or read messages*. (emphasis added) There is nothing that requires a mailer to *display* messages hard-wrapped at n characters. The RFC linked only applies to messages on the wire so to speak. Fair enough. Back to the OP's question: Why does evolution not have a re-wrap feature? I've no idea. I'm not a developer of Evo, but this question has been asked before on the list and the answer has been along the lines I've already mentioned (but evidently based on some other standards doc than RFC-2822), thus my use of the terms AFAIK and apparently. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] From address rewritten from inactive account
To the List, I am stuck at evolution 2.0.2 due to being on RedHat EL maintenance, so I thought I'd check whether this has already been fixed before posting a bug: I have a second account in my evolution setup which has the Enabled box unchecked at the moment. I am using POP3 to get mail, SMTP to send mail on both accounts. When I receive a mail from a third party which happens to include a cc to the user specified in that inactive account, and I compose and send a reply to that email, using Reply (I suppose Reply To All would behave the same way) then the From address in my reply is rewritten to the address in the cc [which happens to be identical to the address in the inactive account] and the mail is sent via the SMTP server shown in the inactive account. The X-Evolution-Account field is also written to the email address in the inactive account. The rewriting is visible in my Sent folder, so it is being done by evolution, not the SMTP server. I have done various control tests. If I send a new email to this third-party person (i.e. not a Reply), with or without a cc to the address named in the inactive account, the mail goes through without rewriting my From address. If I change the SMTP send server in the inactive account to one that I do not have credentials on, and do the reply as above, the mail is rejected. The problem does not occur with incoming mails with cc's to anyone other than the one address named in the inactive account. I really would rather not delete the inactive account, because I do turn it on from time to time (when away from my office), but that is the obvious workaround. Any other ideas? Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10021 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution downloads POP3 inbox multiple times
Dear List, I don't know what UIDL extensions are, but I do know that a while back I had a problem with evolution hanging while downloading emails from a POP3 server, and the workaround I found (and published on this list) was to disable POP3 extensions. Nobody ever answered my question as to where I could find out what these mysterious extensions do or whether I would want them some day. I also have Rus's problem of multiple downloads when leaving mail on the server (which I do when traveling so I can download it to my regular computer when I get home). So my question for Andre is this: is the UIDL you are talking about one of the extensions I have to turn off to get my downloads to work at all? Thanks George Reeke, Ph.D. Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10021 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 16:42 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: hi rus, Am Dienstag, den 14.11.2006, 13:36 + schrieb Rus Hughes: We have our own in house POP3 server and have noticed that Evolution users that choose to Leave messages on server end up downloading the entire of their inbox again when a new E-mail arrives and was wondering if something was up with our server, or whether it's a bug in Evolution? Any insight would be appreciated, all we can think of is it is because the order of the UIDL changes when the new E-mail arrives? There are several possible reasons when this happens: * You have got several copies in your mailbox * The mail server supports the UIDL extension yet changes the message UIDs each session * The mail server does not support UIDL (which means Evolution has to generate UIDs using md5sums of the message headers) but the server changes the message headers after download (usually adding a Status: or X-Status: header - Evolution's md5sum ignores these, but Evolution may be missing other headers that this particular server munges) * ~/.evolution/mail/pop/cache-* files are not writable cheers, andre ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Nit Pic -- Saving Sent messages in separate folders?
Dear Kimmo and List, Doesn't the filter method mean I would have to enter a separate rule for each of the several hundred entries in my address book? I (and I assume William as well) am asking for a general rule that would file the outgoing mail according to the recipient without having to reprogram it for each new recipient. Am I missing something here? By the way, this came up a year or two ago and I think I filed a request for new feature at that time, but I don't remember for sure. This seems so obvious, I would think everybody would want it to work this way. Thanks, George Reeke On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 21:34 +0530, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote: On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 18:53 +0300, K. Elo wrote: Hi Goerg and William, have You tried filters for outgoing mails? Kind regards, Kimmo 2006-08-07 11:10 -0400, George Reeke: Dear List, I have wanted this for a long time too--in my case, I would prefer a global option that would store all sent mail in the folder of the person or list being replied to, if any, otherwise in the folder of the recipient, if known to the system, otherwise in Sent. Thanks, George Reeke On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 10:50 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi All; Looking for a Tip or Trick. I have 3 Personal sub-Folders (Clubs I am a member of). When I send a new email or respond the message gets saved (of course) in the Sent folder. However, I would also like those messages moved to or copied to the appropriate club folder so that I have a complete thread of a Try out vfolders. They can be used to collate information spread across multiple folders/mailing list. discussion. Up to now I have just been going to the Sent folder; selecting the sent message and using the copy or move command to include the message in the right folder. Is there a way to automate this? I've read the manual etc. but I could not find any suggestions. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Nit Pic -- Saving Sent messages in separate folders?
Dear List, I have wanted this for a long time too--in my case, I would prefer a global option that would store all sent mail in the folder of the person or list being replied to, if any, otherwise in the folder of the recipient, if known to the system, otherwise in Sent. Thanks, George Reeke On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 10:50 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi All; Looking for a Tip or Trick. I have 3 Personal sub-Folders (Clubs I am a member of). When I send a new email or respond the message gets saved (of course) in the Sent folder. However, I would also like those messages moved to or copied to the appropriate club folder so that I have a complete thread of a discussion. Up to now I have just been going to the Sent folder; selecting the sent message and using the copy or move command to include the message in the right folder. Is there a way to automate this? I've read the manual etc. but I could not find any suggestions. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wish: Uncached IMAP folders
Dear List, Here's my standard reply to many such issues: Users' Choice! When setting up a new account, you get to choose Slow, accurate counts vs Fast, approximate counts. Then we don't need to argue over whether this strategy was a good idea. Regards, George Reeke On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 20:06 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 01:09 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 22:52 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'm speechless. Was this done because some IMAP servers were buggy? If not, there would seem to be no justification for it. I believe it was done in order to fix inconsistencies in the unseen counts on folders when the strange client-side Junk processing isn't disabled. The Junk processing hides messages from a folder and pretends that those messages actually exist in some other fake folder. And thus the unseen counts in the real folder looked wrong, because some of the unseen messages were hidden from view. The simple option might have been to mark the messages as read when we decided they were junk. That wasn't what was done, though -- instead of just being able to ask the server how many unseen messages are there in this folder we now have to fetch the flags for _every_ mail in the folder and count the ones which are unseen but not 'junk'. Man, that's just... Messy. Instead of hiding them, what if a new subject pane column Junk were created (kinda like Flagged!). A Stored Search (nee Virtual Folder) would list all the Junk. But would that also require re-fetching all mails? Or, just *really* move them to the Junk Folder? Or. disable Junk processing for IMAP Since I don't need it, nobody needs it. In fact we also download the _headers_ for every mail in every folder too. That's just a side-effect of the above, I think; there doesn't seem to be even a tenuous reason for that. By active do you mean subscribed? That is the definition of 'subscribed' in the IMAP specification, yes. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Command Line Options
Oded, You might look at the expect package, which allows you to simulate an interactive session. I believe it is based on the tcl/tk scripting language; it should be easy to find online. [Caveat: I haven't used it myself] George Reeke On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 06:32 +, Oded Rimon wrote: Hello! I print my daily calender entry in Evolution every day, and I thought - maybe this can be done through the command-line options, so I'll only have to put something like: evolution -c calender -p [printer] in the start-up scripts, and I'll have my daily schedule already printed while I'm having breakfast... Is this possible? Thank you, Oded R. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 2.6 - adding a 'move' icon
[An add-on to my posting of 3 April 11:26] One more question for the drag-and-droppers: How do you create a new folder when dragging and dropping? Which leads me to make another suggestion to the developers [which I will post in the official place]: When clicking Move and then New, the new folder is created as a subfolder under the one currently selected, which is the last place something else was stored. This is not generally what is wanted. In my case, I have top-level folders mail2002, etc. by year, and under those many dozens of folders for particular senders. So, when I create a new folder, I always want it to go under mail2006, or whatever is the current year. Seems like the way to do this is to have a preference item Default parent folder for new folders or something like that. Best to all, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
