Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

Hi all,

one last time. I did not believe it, but I tried now several times and 
it was only confirmed. Once the password is saved in keyrings, evolution 
works smart.


Thank you for all the work you put into this. I look at this thread now 
from my side as closed.


Have a blessed 2018


On 03/01/18 14:02, Milan Crha wrote:

On Wed, 2018-01-03 at 12:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

so an equivalent to

   evolution --force-shutdown

while sidestepping usage of "evolution" would be

Hi,
depending where you distribution installs it:

$ /usr/libexec/evolution/killev

which is what the 'evolution --force-shutdown` more or less does.

But I do not think it's a good idea to make things overcomplicated when
you've tools which are provided by the application, thus which are
supposed to do things right (and if they do not, then it's a bug and
should be fixed).

On Wed, 2018-01-03 at 12:51 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

No output by running "pgrep -a evolution" means that everything is
terminated, IOW "evolution --force-shutdown" did shutdown everything.

That's not accurate. Consider a situation when the GNOME managed to
restart the background processes between the two commands.

Nonetheless, we are far from the original issue. Let's stop discussing
details which are not needed to be learned by the regular users.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

But the prompt doesn't show. It does not come up.

Okay, thanks for trying it. This might require deep debugging, possibly
with changes in the code, which is not easily doable. I'm afraid your
only option at the moment is to store the password in the keyring, as a
workaround, to avoid the password prompt lack.
if I open any file with 'send-to' evolution starts wonderful. But I will 
try the keyring version, let's see what that does.

Thank you
Gottfried

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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

keyring" is not checked, right? You probably do not store the password
for some reason, which is fine.

No, I don't store any password.


It looked like the password/credential prompt had been shown before the
Evolution window, thus I guess it can, in some cases, be hidden under
the Evolution window. Using Alt+Tab to switch between windows may help
eventually. I mean, I believe the password prompt is there, it's only
hidden somewhere for some reason.
I tried the buttons you told me, once my daughter told me where they 
are. :-)

But the prompt doesn't show. It does not come up.


I've not been able to reproduce it, though.
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

Have a look:

[schorsch@localhost ~]$ *evolution*
Error sending IPC message: Broken pipe
[schorsch@localhost ~]$ *evolution --force-shutdown*
Could not find Evolution's process ID
[schorsch@localhost ~]$ *pgrep -a evolution*
10079 /usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory
10085 /usr/libexec/evolution-source-registry
10093 /usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory-subprocess --factory local 
--bus-name 
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Subprocess.Backend.Calendarx10079x2 
--own-path 
/org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/Subprocess/Backend/Calendar/10079/2
10105 /usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory-subprocess --factory 
contacts --bus-name 
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Subprocess.Backend.Calendarx10079x3 
--own-path 
/org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/Subprocess/Backend/Calendar/10079/3

10115 /usr/libexec/evolution-addressbook-factory
10146 /usr/libexec/evolution-addressbook-factory-subprocess --factory 
local --bus-name 
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Subprocess.Backend.AddressBookx10115x2 
--own-path 
/org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/Subprocess/Backend/AddressBook/10115/2



On 03/01/18 13:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

evolution --force-shutdown

some background
I started evolution by 'send-to' without sending the email., but I do 
get the question for the password. and then evolution runs. Than I quit. 
And then opened the terminal and put in the commands you told me.
Doing the same after shutting down the whole PC and restarting 
everything. I first started evolution. the password prompt doesn't show 
up and I have to correct myself. I see the tree and can scroll the 
folders, where I put my emails, but I cannot open any email.

To end evolution I have to 'force quit'
Then I put the same commands in the terminal and get the following: 
log.txt is empty =0

[schorsch@localhost ~]$ evolution --force-shutdown
Could not find Evolution's process ID
[schorsch@localhost ~]$ pgrep -a evolution
2896 /usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory
2902 /usr/libexec/evolution-source-registry
2910 /usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory-subprocess --factory local 
--bus-name 
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Subprocess.Backend.Calendarx2896x2 
--own-path 
/org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/Subprocess/Backend/Calendar/2896/2
2922 /usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory-subprocess --factory 
contacts --bus-name 
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Subprocess.Backend.Calendarx2896x3 
--own-path 
/org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/Subprocess/Backend/Calendar/2896/3

2933 /usr/libexec/evolution-addressbook-factory
2963 /usr/libexec/evolution-addressbook-factory-subprocess --factory 
local --bus-name 
org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Subprocess.Backend.AddressBookx2933x2 
--own-path 
/org/gnome/evolution/dataserver/Subprocess/Backend/AddressBook/2933/2


Can you read that?
Gottfried
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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

I'm unsure of one thing: does Evolution freeze in this state and it
doesn't repaint,
The tree of saved messages is still mobile, and I can look into the 
folders, look up certain emails. I did a back-up and I can read an older 
back-up into evolution, which lead to full function until I closed it 
again. Then it was not opening anymore. The window for putting in the 
password for the evolution user does not come up.



You mentioned that you use GNOME. As it looks like you've most of its
settings in defaults, you probably run the Wayland session, not X.org.
This can be changed during the login, when you click the gear wheel
icon after you select the user to log in (and before you enter the
password for the user).

So I should try and change to the X.org? it doesn't change anything.

I do not know whether your Evolution window is
maximized or not,
Mostly not. Especially not when I start it, later on maybe, when I need 
to overview the emails.

You can run Evolution from a terminal in offline mode:

$ evolution --offline

which will avoid the password prompt for the mail account, because it
will not try to connect to the server. Then, when you've the Evolution
window moved appropriately, switch it to online with File->Work Online
menu option and then click File->Send/Receive-> to make it
connect and refresh it. It can also happen that the credentials prompt
is on a different desktop (there was a bug about it int he past,
related to KDE).
It doesn't do anything when I go through the menu. There is a button 
left in the lower corner looks like an electrical plug. If I click on 
it, it says that it reconnects my account, but that is so to speak the 
last breath. After that nothing else happens.

You can verify your password in Seahorse (it's Passwords & Keys
application), where you can see which are stored and what they are.
Password seems not the problem, as I can open evolution through the 
'send to' command in the file directory. I just click on any file 
anywhere with the right mouseclick, choose 'send-to' and open evolution 
perfect. But that doesn't make sense to me either.


You can also tweak some GNOME behaviour with a gnome-tweak-tool (where
the most irritating for me is when a modal window movement moves also
its parent, which I turn off).
what in the world is tweaking? What does that do? gives it a protokoll? 
or is that a way to repair? Sorry, I am not much of a linux-user, I am 
just upset with Windoof.

Gottfried

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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

the underlying issue lies outside of Evolution.

Probably in the desktop theme that you are using.
I changed my background picture to one of the fedora backgrounds and 
matched it with the lockscreen. They were different before. I use 
English (UK) as language, but have a German keyboard, because I have one.
Is that meant with theme as well? Should I switch to one language, 
running the computer and keyboard? I really have no clue, what exactly 
you mean with theme.


Gottfried

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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

Happy New Year everyone!

finally we got done with 2017 and it's a new year. May it be blessed for 
all of you. Thank you for your work. It's invaluable.


Referring to my problem:

I clicked once again the wrong button and clicked "send to' in my files 
instead of 'copy to' but the outcome is that evolution opened without 
any problem. Since I have it now, there are several emails I have to 
answer and work for other people, so I dare not close it in order to 
test, if it 'repaired itself' somehow. But would this information give 
you a clue as to where the problem lies?


I just hope so.

Have a blessed day

Gottfried

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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

A theme is essentially a group of visual settings that affect what your
desktop and windows look like, including icons, colour schemes, fonts,
background, etc.
Yepp, in this case, I changed the background actually every now and 
then. I find a nice picture taken by my wife as photography or in the 
internet, wherever, and take it and then change it later again. so I 
hardly use the backgrounds offered by the distributions. Since I am 
publishing books, I also have a lot of fonts that I use for the books.

Did not think, this would influence evolution. Does it?
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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

Yes, from the previous email: "Have you changed the theme at all?"

andre
??? what do you mean with theme? I used to work with pop but with fedora 
I changed to IMAP. Otherwise it's the same emails, and I used the same 
back-ups. Fedora is of course different, you don't mean that. And I 
always used Gnome. You don't mean that either. Just help me, what is 
"theme"?

gottfried
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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

That list is the list of threads currently being run by Evolution along
with a backtrace of the calls in each thread.  One of the 45 threads is
stuck but without seeing them all it is impossible to tell which is
causing the issue. The list is long because Evolution is complex. If
the file is a reasonable size (under about 100k) then attach it to an
email to this list; if it's big, then load it in to pastebin - it would
be helpful if it didn't have things like "---Type  to continue,
or q  to quit---" in the middle of it.

P.


I attached the list in txt format. Is that OK? Or should I copy the list 
into the email? The list is long but just 20kb.
after the first section I accidentally quit but started again and had 
the same list given again and then had it run to the end. I didn't see 
any personal data on it.

Hope I can work with my email soon again :-)
Gottfried
Thread 45 (Thread 0x7fff289d4700 (LWP 12627)):
#0  0x7fffeb4d3b29 in syscall () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x75e9166a in g_cond_wait_until () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x75e20381 in g_async_queue_pop_intern_unlocked ()
at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x75e2093c in g_async_queue_timeout_pop ()
at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#4  0x75e73f6e in g_thread_pool_thread_proxy ()
at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x75e734c6 in g_thread_proxy () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#6  0x74e54619 in start_thread () at /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#7  0x7fffeb4d98bf in clone () at /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 44 (Thread 0x7fff0effd700 (LWP 12611)):
#0  0x7fffeb4cd30b in poll () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x75e4bed9 in g_main_context_iterate.isra ()
at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x75e4c272 in g_main_loop_run () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x7fffeda181f0 in WTF::RunLoop::run() ()
at /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#4  0x7fffeda170b2 in WTF::Function::CallableWrapper<WTF::WorkQueue::platformInitialize(char const*, 
WTF::WorkQueue::Type, WTF::WorkQueue::QOS)::{l---Type  to continue, or 
q  to quit---
ambda()#1}>::call() () at /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#5  0x7fffed9eff0b in 
WTF::Thread::entryPoint(WTF::Thread::NewThreadContext*) () at 
/lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#6  0x7fffeda162a9 in WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) ()
at /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#7  0x74e54619 in start_thread () at /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x7fffeb4d98bf in clone () at /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 43 (Thread 0x7fff0700 (LWP 12609)):
#0  0x7fffeb4cd30b in poll () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x75e4bed9 in g_main_context_iterate.isra ()
at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x75e4c272 in g_main_loop_run () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x7fffeda181f0 in WTF::RunLoop::run() ()
at /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#4  0x7fffeda170b2 in WTF::Function::CallableWrapper<WTF::WorkQueue::platformInitialize(char const*, 
WTF::WorkQueue::Type, WTF::WorkQueue::QOS)::{lambda()#1}>::call() () at 
/lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#5  0x7fffed9eff0b in 
WTF::Thread::entryPoint(WTF::Thread::NewThreadContext*) () at 
/lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#6  0x7fffeda162a9 in WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) ()
at /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#7  0x74e54619 in start_thread () at /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x7fffeb4d98bf in clone () at /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 25 (Thread 0x7fff4c96d700 (LWP 12572)):
#0  0x7fffeb4cd30b in poll () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x75e4bed9 in g_main_context_iterate.isra ()
at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x75e4c272 in g_main_loop_run () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x757227d3 in cal_client_dbus_thread () at /lib64/libecal-1.2.so.19
#4  0x75e734c6 in g_thread_proxy () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x74e54619 in start_thread () at /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#6  0x7fffeb4d98bf in clone () at /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 24 (Thread 0x7fff4d16e700 (LWP 12571)):
#0  0x74e5ac4b in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 ()
at /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x7fff574673cb in util_queue_thread_func ()
at /usr/lib64/dri/radeonsi_dri.so
#2  0x7fff574672e7 in impl_thrd_routine ()
at /usr/lib64/dri/radeonsi_dri.so
#3  0x74e54619 in start_thread () at /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x7fffeb4d98bf in clone () at /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 23 (Thread 0x7fff4d96f700 (LWP 12570)):
#0  0x74e5ac4b in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 ()
at /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x7fff574673cb in util_queue_thread_func ()
at /usr/lib64/dri/radeonsi_dri.so
#2  0x7fff574672e7 in impl_thrd_routine ()
at /usr/lib64/dri/radeonsi_dri.so
#3  0x74e54619 in start_thread () at /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x7fffeb4d98bf in clone () at /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 22 (Thread 0x7fff4e170700 (LWP 12569)):
#0  0x74e5ac4b in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 ()
at /lib64/libpthread.so.0

Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

for the emails I use IMAP

The system is set up on Gnome

I used to work on Linux Mint, but evolution was then only with version 
3.22 available and I felt the performance was deteriorating. So I 
set up my laptop completely with fedora 27 and the only change in 
evolution was the update, which didn't change anything that I could see.


When I had evolution run on linux mint, and I did not start evolution 
right from the beginning, when I started the computer, it would react 
the same way. Once it reacted that way, I had to restart the whole 
computer in order to get evolution started again. In fedora I had no 
problem the first two or three weeks. Of course I always started 
evolution first before any other app. One day I didn't and somehow, it 
doesn't find back to simply generate the email list.


Does that help? any more questions? I would be happy to answer, 
sometimes I do not understand your language, but I am on the way getting 
there. :-)


Gottfried


On 30/12/17 12:13, Pete Biggs wrote:

On Sat, 2017-12-30 at 09:18 +0200, Gottfried wrote:

Somehow it counts down from 45 to 1 and then last one mentions some loop:

The loop it mentions in this - Thread #1 - is fundamental to how GUI
apps work. The program enters a loop which allows other threads or
applications to get some time to process things such as key presses or
mouse clicks.

But having said that I see that that particular thread is processing a
css request:


Thread 1 (Thread 0x77f8af80 (LWP 12519)):
#0  0x739e7330 in gtk_css_static_style_get_default ()
  at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0

Some questions for you - and please could you try and answer them.

What desktop do use? Gnome? KDE? or something else?

Have you changed the theme at all?

P.
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Re: [Evolution] open

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Somehow it counts down from 45 to 1 and then last one mentions some loop:
Thread 1 (Thread 0x77f8af80 (LWP 12519)):
#0  0x739e7330 in gtk_css_static_style_get_default ()
at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#1  0x739d3592 in gtk_css_node_init () at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#2  0x714e2ef0 in g_type_create_instance ()
at /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#3  0x714c3db8 in g_object_new_internal ()
---Type  to continue, or q  to quit---
at /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#4  0x714c in g_object_new_with_properties ()
at /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#5  0x714c5fd1 in g_object_new () at /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#6  0x739ee69a in gtk_css_transient_node_new () at 
/lib64/libgtk-3.so.0

#7  0x73b3540e in gtk_style_context_save_named ()
at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#8  0x73baf841 in validate_row () at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#9  0x73bb781a in do_validate_rows () at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#10 0x73bb7ed1 in gtk_tree_view_get_preferred_width ()
at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#11 0x73b269cc in gtk_widget_query_size_for_orientation ()
at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#12 0x73b270bc in gtk_widget_compute_size_for_orientation ()
at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#13 0x73b27231 in gtk_widget_get_preferred_width_for_height ()
at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#14 0x73b2751d in _gtk_widget_get_preferred_size_and_baseline ()
at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#15 0x73bb1aba in do_presize_handler () at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#16 0x73bb1fa9 in presize_handler_callback () at 
/lib64/libgtk-3.so.0

#17 0x73bd1e42 in gtk_widget_on_frame_clock_update ()
at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
---Type  to continue, or q  to quit---
#18 0x714be73d in g_closure_invoke () at /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#19 0x714d14de in signal_emit_unlocked_R ()
at /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#20 0x714d9d05 in g_signal_emit_valist () at 
/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0

#21 0x714da66f in g_signal_emit () at /lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0
#22 0x7359b723 in gdk_frame_clock_paint_idle () at 
/lib64/libgdk-3.so.0

#23 0x735869d0 in gdk_threads_dispatch () at /lib64/libgdk-3.so.0
#24 0x75e4c61d in g_timeout_dispatch () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#25 0x75e4bbb7 in g_main_context_dispatch () at 
/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0

#26 0x75e4bf60 in g_main_context_iterate.isra ()
at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#27 0x75e4c272 in g_main_loop_run () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#28 0x73a83ca5 in gtk_main () at /lib64/libgtk-3.so.0
#29 0x8494 in main ()

Greetings
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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

here is what I get now:

Thread 45 (Thread 0x7fff289d4700 (LWP 12627)):
#0  0x7fffeb4d3b29 in syscall () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x75e9166a in g_cond_wait_until () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x75e20381 in g_async_queue_pop_intern_unlocked ()
    at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x75e2093c in g_async_queue_timeout_pop ()
    at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#4  0x75e73f6e in g_thread_pool_thread_proxy ()
    at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x75e734c6 in g_thread_proxy () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#6  0x74e54619 in start_thread () at /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#7  0x7fffeb4d98bf in clone () at /lib64/libc.so.6

Thread 44 (Thread 0x7fff0effd700 (LWP 12611)):
#0  0x7fffeb4cd30b in poll () at /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x75e4bed9 in g_main_context_iterate.isra ()
    at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x75e4c272 in g_main_loop_run () at /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x7fffeda181f0 in WTF::RunLoop::run() ()
    at /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#4  0x7fffeda170b2 in WTF::Function()>::CallableWrapper::call() () at /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#5  0x7fffed9eff0b in 
WTF::Thread::entryPoint(WTF::Thread::NewThreadContext*) () at 
/lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18

#6  0x7fffeda162a9 in WTF::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) ()
    at /lib64/libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0.so.18
#7  0x74e54619 in start_thread () at /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#8  0x7fffeb4d98bf in clone () at /lib64/libc.so.6

and I can now quit or go on like this. what exactly of these lists would 
you need?



On 30/12/17 03:19, Andre Klapper wrote:

On Fri, 2017-12-29 at 17:34 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote:

I believe they missed the step that after Evolution hangs you have to
type Ctrl-C in the GDB terminal to interrupt the debugger and get
back
to the GDB prompt. THEN you can type "thread apply all bt full"

Yes! Zan is correct. I am sorry for that!
No problem, as a German I never make mistakes, you know? But I can 
forgive. :-))


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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

It sounds like Evolution "hangs" (does not respond to anything in the
user interface anymore) but does not "crash" (the application window
vanishes unexpectedly).

Please make sure that "gdb" is installed. Then open a Terminal window.
Then enter the command "gdb evolution". At the next prompt, enter the
command "run". Then make Evolution hang. Then enter the command "thread
apply all bt full".
I did just that. it shows a list of threads. It seams to take for ever. 
If I type your command 'thread apply all bt full' in between, nothing 
happens any more. At least it looks like. Could it be that it just takes 
a lot of time? as I said, my PC is not fast. to me it still looks like 
gdb is hanging just like evolution

Gottfried

Then post the *complete* output of *all* those steps somewhere.



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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

Yes sorry, I wrote from my cellphone one of the emails, won't do that again.


On 30/12/17 00:22, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:



Please do NOT post on the list from multiple email accounts. This makes
it impossible to keep track of conversations.

I fact I've just noticed you used the same account, but with a changed
user name. This is still confusing so I suggest you unify the
configuration in your various devices (assuming that's the root of the
difference).





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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

Hi All,

in Fedora there is a program called Nemiver. I used the function "attach 
to running program" while Evolution is still running or hanging. I got 
the following. Does that show anything? To me Chinese would be just as 
clear. :-) THe program shows the header: (path='/usr/bin/evolution', 
pid=2688)


0x7f9bff7b41fa  <_hb_ot_shape+5578>:  add    $0x14,%r15
0x7f9bff7b41fe  <_hb_ot_shape+5582>:  mov 0xb0(%rbp),%rsi
0x7f9bff7b4205  <_hb_ot_shape+5589>:  mov    %rbp,%rdi
0x7f9bff7b4208  <_hb_ot_shape+5592>:  add    $0x14,%r14
0x7f9bff7b420c  <_hb_ot_shape+5596>:  mov 0x98(%rax),%rcx
0x7f9bff7b4213  <_hb_ot_shape+5603>:  callq *0x178(%rax)
0x7f9bff7b4219  <_hb_ot_shape+5609>:  mov %eax,-0x14(%r14)
0x7f9bff7b421d  <_hb_ot_shape+5613>:  cmp    %r15,%rbx
0x7f9bff7b4220  <_hb_ot_shape+5616>:  jne 0x7f9bff7b41f0 
<_hb_ot_shape+5568>

0x7f9bff7b4222  <_hb_ot_shape+5618>:  mov    $0x6,%esi
0x7f9bff7b4227  <_hb_ot_shape+5623>:  mov    %rbp,%rdi
0x7f9bff7b422a  <_hb_ot_shape+5626>:  mov 0x10(%rsp),%rbx
0x7f9bff7b422f  <_hb_ot_shape+5631>:  callq 0x7f9bff7815c0 
<_ZN9hb_font_t8has_funcEj>

0x7f9bff7b4234  <_hb_ot_shape+5636>:  test   %al,%al
0x7f9bff7b4236  <_hb_ot_shape+5638>:  je 0x7f9bff7b35f0 
<_hb_ot_shape+2496>

0x7f9bff7b423c  <_hb_ot_shape+5644>:  mov 0x20(%rsp),%eax
0x7f9bff7b4240  <_hb_ot_shape+5648>:  mov 0x28(%rsp),%rdi
0x7f9bff7b4245  <_hb_ot_shape+5653>:  add    $0xc,%r13
0x7f9bff7b4249  <_hb_ot_shape+5657>:  mov %rbx,0x28(%rsp)
0x7f9bff7b424e  <_hb_ot_shape+5662>:  lea 0x68(%rsp),%r15
0x7f9bff7b4253  <_hb_ot_shape+5667>:  mov    %rbp,%rbx
0x7f9bff7b4256  <_hb_ot_shape+5670>:  mov    %r13,%rbp
0x7f9bff7b4259  <_hb_ot_shape+5673>:  lea (%rax,%rax,4),%rax
0x7f9bff7b425d  <_hb_ot_shape+5677>:  lea (%rdi,%rax,4),%rax
0x7f9bff7b4261  <_hb_ot_shape+5681>:  lea 0x70(%rsp),%rdi
0x7f9bff7b4266  <_hb_ot_shape+5686>:  mov %rax,0x10(%rsp)
0x7f9bff7b426b  <_hb_ot_shape+5691>:  lea 0x6c(%rsp),%rax
0x7f9bff7b4270  <_hb_ot_shape+5696>:  mov %rdi,0x20(%rsp)
0x7f9bff7b4275  <_hb_ot_shape+5701>:  mov    %rax,%r13
0x7f9bff7b4278  <_hb_ot_shape+5704>:  jmp 0x7f9bff7b42a1 
<_hb_ot_shape+5745>

0x7f9bff7b427a  <_hb_ot_shape+5706>:  nopw 0x0(%rax,%rax,1)
0x7f9bff7b4280  <_hb_ot_shape+5712>:  mov 0x68(%rsp),%edx
0x7f9bff7b4284  <_hb_ot_shape+5716>:  mov 0x6c(%rsp),%eax
0x7f9bff7b4288  <_hb_ot_shape+5720>:  sub %edx,-0x4(%rbp)
0x7f9bff7b428b  <_hb_ot_shape+5723>:  sub %eax,0x0(%rbp)
0x7f9bff7b428e  <_hb_ot_shape+5726>:  add    $0x14,%r12
0x7f9bff7b4292  <_hb_ot_shape+5730>:  add    $0x14,%rbp
0x7f9bff7b4296  <_hb_ot_shape+5734>:  cmp %r12,0x10(%rsp)
0x7f9bff7b429b  <_hb_ot_shape+5739>:  je 0x7f9bff7b3900 
<_hb_ot_shape+3280>

0x7f9bff7b42a1  <_hb_ot_shape+5745>:  mov (%r12),%r14d
0x7f9bff7b42a5  <_hb_ot_shape+5749>:  mov 0xa8(%rbx),%rax
0x7f9bff7b42ac  <_hb_ot_shape+5756>:  mov    %r13,%r8
0x7f9bff7b42af  <_hb_ot_shape+5759>:  movl $0x0,0x6c(%rsp)
0x7f9bff7b42b7  <_hb_ot_shape+5767>:  movl $0x0,0x68(%rsp)
0x7f9bff7b42bf  <_hb_ot_shape+5775>:  mov    %r15,%rcx
0x7f9bff7b42c2  <_hb_ot_shape+5778>:  mov 0xb0(%rbx),%rsi
0x7f9bff7b42c9  <_hb_ot_shape+5785>:  mov    %rbx,%rdi
0x7f9bff7b42cc  <_hb_ot_shape+5788>:  mov 0xa8(%rax),%r9
0x7f9bff7b42d3  <_hb_ot_shape+5795>:  mov    %r14d,%edx
0x7f9bff7b42d6  <_hb_ot_shape+5798>:  callq *0x188(%rax)
0x7f9bff7b42dc  <_hb_ot_shape+5804>:  test   %eax,%eax
0x7f9bff7b42de  <_hb_ot_shape+5806>:  jne 0x7f9bff7b4280 
<_hb_ot_shape+5712>

0x7f9bff7b42e0  <_hb_ot_shape+5808>:  mov 0xa8(%rbx),%rax
0x7f9bff7b42e7  <_hb_ot_shape+5815>:  movl $0x0,0x6c(%rsp)
0x7f9bff7b42ef  <_hb_ot_shape+5823>:  mov    %r13,%r8
0x7f9bff7b42f2  <_hb_ot_shape+5826>:  movl $0x0,0x68(%rsp)
0x7f9bff7b42fa  <_hb_ot_shape+5834>:  mov 0xb0(%rbx),%rsi
0x7f9bff7b4301  <_hb_ot_shape+5841>:  mov    %r15,%rcx
0x7f9bff7b4304  <_hb_ot_shape+5844>:  mov    %r14d,%edx
0x7f9bff7b4307  <_hb_ot_shape+5847>:  mov    %rbx,%rdi
0x7f9bff7b430a  <_hb_ot_shape+5850>:  mov 0xb0(%rax),%r9
0x7f9bff7b4311  <_hb_ot_shape+5857>:  callq *0x190(%rax)
0x7f9bff7b4317  <_hb_ot_shape+5863>:  test   %eax,%eax
0x7f9bff7b4319  <_hb_ot_shape+5865>:  je 0x7f9bff7b4280 
<_hb_ot_shape+5712>

0x7f9bff7b431f  <_hb_ot_shape+5871>:  mov 0xa8(%rbx),%rax
0x7f9bff7b4326  <_hb_ot_shape+5878>:  mov    %r14d,%edx
0x7f9bff7b4329  <_hb_ot_shape+5881>:  mov 0xb0(%rbx),%rsi
0x7f9bff7b4330  <_hb_ot_shape+5888>:  mov    %rbx,%rdi
0x7f9bff7b4333  <_hb_ot_shape+5891>:  mov 0x98(%rax),%rcx
0x7f9bff7b433a  <_hb_ot_shape+5898>:  callq *0x178(%rax)
0x7f9bff7b4340  <_hb_ot_shape+5904>:  mov    %eax,%r14d
0x7f9bff7b4343  <_hb_ot_shape+5907>:  pxor   %xmm0,%xmm0
0x7f9bff7b4347  <_hb_ot_shape+5911>:  shr    $0x1f,%r14d
0x7f9bff7b434b  <_hb_ot_shape+5915>:  mov 0x20(%rsp),%rdx
0x7f9bff7b4350  

Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

Hi all,

let me make my problem more precise. Evolution works fine. It is in my 
setting that something went wrong and all of a sudden it does not open 
any more.


I installed evolution on a different PC. restored an older back-up and 
one or two times it loaded fine and then again, it did not want to open 
again.


I am not interested in configuring evolution with a different email. The 
reason is: I use evolution for my business emails and thunderbird for my 
private emails. I am not mentioning thunderbird as a problem, so no need 
to comment on that further. It is just to give the background that I am 
using different email clients for different reasons. Clawsmail is my 
security email, which is so restricted that it is only used for a 
certain group of people and absolute not public.


Could it be a problem though, that evolution, thunderbird and clawsmail 
in one system don't like each other? or may just two of them.


The worst side of the problem is that I don't find warnings or comments 
or anything indicating any error. It just starts and hangs there. The 
same thing happened on Linux mint, but then I would simply restart the 
whole system and evolution would just start again. Because linux mint, 
(and please this is only to mention the background) uses only an older 
version of evolution, whatever good reason they might have for it, I 
installed fedora in order to be able to use a more update version.


My backup is about 4.2 GB big (just emails), is that getting to the core 
of the problem?


:-)

greetings to you all.


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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

You need to run Evolution from the command line and see if any errors
are produced there.
did that and it opens Evloution just until it would ask for the passowrd 
and then get's hanged up. Doesn't do anything anymore.


I did a back-up a few days ago, and with that it runs perfect. You know, 
restore with back-up and so on. Does that solve the problem, or would it 
come up in the next days again?

Well exactly the same problem came up after a restart.


Did you do as Patrick suggested and create a new *Linux* user, login in
as that new user and configure Evolution? Does Evolution work then?
still need to figure out, how that works. But I am on it. If I add the 
backup, it definitely won't.


P.

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Re: [Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

I am on Fedora as OS and use the 3.26.1 version of Evolution.

I used the back-up on a different PC and it worked out the same way. By 
my comments you know that I don't know much. I suspect, that I 
unintentionally saved a wrong password. I never save passwords but then 
again, I type sometimes faster than I think... Sorry.


Is there a way I could delete that password? Any backdoor?

Gottfried


On 28/12/17 19:53, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2017-12-28 at 16:50 +0200, Gottfried wrote:

Hi all,

I cannot open evolution anymore. Got the newest version.

Which version exactly?


when I try to
open it, it comes up until it generates the maillist and then it gets
stuck. Doesn't even ask for password.

Uninstalled it, reinstalled it.

Virtually always a waste of time. Linux isn't Windows.


Even the opening of the back-up file on
another computer doesn't work, but that might be a different one. I
simply cannot get or send emails, because evolution does not open. Does
anybody have a suggestion?

Create a new Linux user and log in. Run Evolution. Configure some mail
account(s) and try them. Let us know what  happens.

poc
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[Evolution] open

[Gottfried]

Hi all,

I cannot open evolution anymore. Got the newest version. when I try to 
open it, it comes up until it generates the maillist and then it gets 
stuck. Doesn't even ask for password.


Uninstalled it, reinstalled it. Even the opening of the back-up file on 
another computer doesn't work, but that might be a different one. I 
simply cannot get or send emails, because evolution does not open. Does 
anybody have a suggestion?


Gottfried

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Re: [Evolution] copy & paste oddness

[Gottfried]

Sorry, to take you OT. But your comments are helpful and thank you very 
much.



On 05/12/2017 12:54, Andrea Vai wrote:

Hi,
Il giorno mar, 05/12/2017 alle 12.24 +0200, Gottfried ha scritto:

  So what would be possible to do? change the
whole distribution? But don't the other distributions limit the
other
software that I am using? In my understanding Ubuntu/LinuxMint are
those
distributions that make most apps accessible.

I switched to Fedora, for the same exact reason (didn't like Ubuntu
old packages), and I'm happy with it.

...but I'm afraid we're going OT now... sorry

Bye,
Andrea
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Re: [Evolution] copy & paste oddness

[Gottfried]

This is actually the problem. how come that Ubuntu and therefore 
LinuxMint use such an old version of Evolution? can't they just pass on 
a newer version? The version used is by far not stable, at least not any 
more. And I do need different software in order to keep different 
accounts separate. To put all the emails I have now collected over the 
years into Thunderbird would blow that thing up and make it useless. Do 
I really have to run then Evo on a Windows PC, just because the 
distributors decided to love only their own thing? That does not sound 
very credible.


Claws Mail is a kind of medieval client that I use for security reasons 
in a different account. So what would be possible to do? change the 
whole distribution? But don't the other distributions limit the other 
software that I am using? In my understanding Ubuntu/LinuxMint are those 
distributions that make most apps accessible.


Anyone has a good tip?

Gottfried


On 05/12/2017 11:32, Pete Biggs wrote:

On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 16:06 -0800, bg wrote:

bg:

When I copy an email address into the buffer,  it refuses to paste in
any of the address fields.

Andre:


What is "the buffer" and how do you "copy" and how do you "paste"?

bg:

The buffer is a basic system function used by all forms of editor within the 
system - when I
smack "copy" during a LibreOffice edit, or in a "ReplyEdit" in Evo, I presume 
that they both
go to the same place. The "buffer".  You may have another name for it. When I 
ask for
a paste, from whatever application, that string is pulled from the buffer and 
pasted into
the working document. This has been the case for well over thirty years AFAIK. 
I don't know
whether in current setups the buffer runs under Linux or under Gnome, but it 
crosses virtually
all applications that can manipulate text. If I want to copy a URL from my main 
browser window,
and paste it into the body of an email text message, then the buffer is 
involved. If I want to
pull a quote from my quotes collection and load it into a LibreWriter doc, same 
same.

Although I understand what you are saying, there is actually more than
one copy & paste mechanism in Gnome/Linux.  There is, what I think you
are talking about, the Ctrl-C / Ctrl-V method, probably the same as
Edit->Copy / Edit->Paste in most well behaved applications. This is
usually known as "the clipboard". But some legacy applications in X
still use cut buffers for cut and paste (which are incompatible), and
even within ICCM (which is what the clipboard is) there are multiple
buffers and multiple mechanisms for populating the buffers - besides
the ^C/^V mechanism (which populates the buffer called "CLIPBOARD"),
when you highlight some text that goes into a buffer called "PRIMARY"
(without any user interaction) and can be pasted using the middle mouse
button - but not all applications support that.

And then you get the confusion introduced by clipboard managers which
stores a history of clipboard contents and allows different mechanisms
for selecting and pasting content.

So, Andre's question is not unreasonable.


Here's the difficulty I've always had with that last, Andre;  I don't care to 
use the very latest
release of any distribution, preferring to stick with the newest "LTS" (as 
Ubuntu styles it) version.
I've found that being on the bleeding edge uses up a lot of valuable hemoglobin 
:-)

There's no problem sticking with an LTS (or whatever your distro calls
it) version. But doing so comes with consequences - it's all swings and
roundabouts.


But from all I have read the last several years, I conclude that I am stuck 
with whatever version of
EVO ships with that latest LTS. Everything I've seen about downloading and 
attempting to install
the most current version of Evo into an Ubuntu distro and concomitant Gnome 
version which
did not contemplate that EVO version suggest that I'm letting myself in for a 
nightmare.

If you choose to use an LTS version of a distro, then, to be perfectly
honest, it would seem to be a strange decision to upgrade a complex
entity like Evolution to a newer version.  The whole point of an LTS is
that the versions of the packages are stable for the lifetime of the
distro.

However, you are then relying on whatever distro you use doing things
"properly" with the content of the LTS - i.e. back porting bug fixes,
providing support for out-of-date packages and so on.


So as I have done for a long time, I'll settle for workarounds, and hope that 
succeeding distro
versions might improve some aspects of the Evo experience. Why Ubuntu seems to 
stay so far
back in versions is unknown to me.

Ubuntu fell out of love with Evolution a while back and their preferred
MUA was Thunderbird. At that point they stopped keeping up with the
most current version of Evo in their distros and supplied ones that
were a couple of versions back - the be