Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Thu, 2022-11-03 at 08:03 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > What about co-moderating the new evo list, wherever it will be? Sure. > > Speaking of which, as other mailing list(s) are moving to the > freedesktop.org (the network manager list had been mentioned here), I > think, and believe, it would be a perfect fit for the evo list as well. If only a few lists are going to migrate to new platforms, then freedesktop.org seems like the prefect fit. -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What do I do now? V2
On Wed, 2022-11-02 at 16:27 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > I think there had been at least two other folks mentioned here, but I > lost their names, I'm sorry. If you read this, please respond. > I offered, and still do offer, to host mail.gnome.org. That is to say, have the Gnome DNS administrator change the DNS for mail.gnome.org to point to my existing infrastructure (I can provide them all the details like IP addrs, DNS TXT/SPF/_dmarc records, etc) and allow me to rsync the /var/lib/mailman folder that is currently on restaurant.gnome.org. Nobody would have to change mailing lists, everything would work like it does today (with minimal downtime due to DNS TTL, which could always be shortened). Gnome would retain control of the DNS settings, I would quietly and passively run the Mailman system as I already do for others. Someone put me in touch with whoever is root on resturant.g.o, and whoever is root on ns-master.g.o. -Jim P. (aka jim...@domainmail.org) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 12:12 -0400, dfc wrote: > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:19 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:01 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote: > > > What other existing mailing list software can be used if Mailman is > > > unavailable? > > > > > > ... > > > I've offered to host, for Gnome, for free, everything they currently > > have at mail.gnome.org (all they would have to do is switch DNS for > > the > > subdomain mail.gnome.org to my systems and provide me with a copy of > > their current Mailman2 lists and archives). I've been doing Mailman2 > > mailinglists for 2 decades, and have tons of experience in this area. > > Sadly, no one from Gnome has contacted me to take me up on this > > offer. > > > > That is unfortunate and it seems like a generous offer on your part. > > How long have they been silent about that offer? > I don't think I've been silent about it, although I haven't been overly chatty about it either. I only found out about this issue at the same time everyone else here did. I mentioned the offer in a post, and then a follow-up post, both on this past Thursday. -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Discourse and the situation for Mailman lists hosted by Gnome.org
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 11:01 -0400, dfc via evolution-list wrote: > What other existing mailing list software can be used if Mailman is > unavailable? Just to reiterate and clarify, there is no "Mailman is unavailable" situation. Mailman has versions that support Python2 and Python3, and Python2 is still supported in many places (but maybe not in Gnome land). Gnome appears to be blaming python2 and Mailman, but it really seems that Gnome just really wants to give up email support in favor of support via web browser (with future ads, click tracking, data harvesting, etc?). I've offered to host, for Gnome, for free, everything they currently have at mail.gnome.org (all they would have to do is switch DNS for the subdomain mail.gnome.org to my systems and provide me with a copy of their current Mailman2 lists and archives). I've been doing Mailman2 mailinglists for 2 decades, and have tons of experience in this area. Sadly, no one from Gnome has contacted me to take me up on this offer. -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 16:04 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via evolution-list wrote: > Dnia 21.10.2022 o godz. 14:57:04 Patrick O'Callaghan pisze: > > > > As others have said, Evolution is primarily an email client, and it > > makes sense that its main support forum should be a properly managed > > mailing list. > > A quick and simple question: who is in position to decide to move this list > to another mailing list, hosted elsewhere? There have been already a few > propositions on this list for an alternative. Who is the "owner" of this > list who can decide about the move? Further, the previous stated reasons for dropping mail.gnome.org have all been proven unsubstantiated. Python2 is not going away (Ubuntu Pro supports it until the year 2030), and spam is not a problem on other well run mailing lists. -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 12:27 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 16:40 +0200, Torsten Krah via evolution-list > wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, dem 20.10.2022 um 13:01 +0100 schrieb Patrick > > O'Callaghan: > > > I am a moderator of the Evolution list, and this is the first I've > > > > > > heard of this. > > > > Me too and if you have a look at the top level site: > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/ > > > > There is no sign that they are going to retire this at all (if I am not > > mistaken and missed it). > > Further to that point, down at the bottom of that page is a link for > "Who should I contact if I have a problem with any of the mailing > lists?" which is a dead link to > https://wiki.gnome.org/Sysadmin/MailingLists > > So maybe the writing was on the wall for a while now. > > I could host a new mailing list for evolution users, but I wonder if > something like evolution-us...@lists.debian.org would be a better place > even if some Evo users willingly choose to use Redhat. :P > Just realized my above email was sent via a personal account because that's what I used when signing up here. I run domainmail.org, a free virtual domain mailing list service for those that need such a thing, one list in particular is SDLU which is specific to spam fighting (which seems to be a problem for gnome.org). If someone at Gnome wants to shoot me an email, I could easily and freely host mail.gnome.org for them on Mailman v2.x. The smooth process would be a few DNS changes and a rsync of the current lists archive+settings to my system. -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 16:40 +0200, Torsten Krah via evolution-list wrote: > Am Donnerstag, dem 20.10.2022 um 13:01 +0100 schrieb Patrick > O'Callaghan: > > I am a moderator of the Evolution list, and this is the first I've > > > > heard of this. > > Me too and if you have a look at the top level site: > > https://mail.gnome.org/ > > There is no sign that they are going to retire this at all (if I am not > mistaken and missed it). Further to that point, down at the bottom of that page is a link for "Who should I contact if I have a problem with any of the mailing lists?" which is a dead link to https://wiki.gnome.org/Sysadmin/MailingLists So maybe the writing was on the wall for a while now. I could host a new mailing list for evolution users, but I wonder if something like evolution-us...@lists.debian.org would be a better place even if some Evo users willingly choose to use Redhat. :P -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules for different accounts
On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 17:28 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote: > I think might be a scam. It is. I too got one, but with a different spammy URI. Don't click those links. -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Msg filter to auto create calendar entry
Hello! I need some ideas on a way to create a message filter shell command that would take the contents of a message and create a calendar entry in Evo (v3.30.5-1.1). I can handle the filter, regex parsing, what I don't know is the pipe interface/parameters/environment nor having the script create the calendar entry. Thanks for any ideas/etc. -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Failed to connect calendar “CalDAV : NextCloud"
On Mon, 2020-05-04 at 10:45 -0400, Jim Popovitch via evolution-list wrote: > Hello, > > Since NextCloud v18.0.4 release I have been unable to connect Evolution > v3.30.5-1.1 to continuously CalDAV. I can setup a CalDAV in Evolution, > and Evolution does prompts for the password and can correctly query > NextCloud for available calendars to select, but when the CalDAV > connection is saved, Evolution persists to display a blue banner with: > > Failed to connect calendar “CalDAV : NextCloud" > Failed with HTTP error 404: Not Found. > > NOTE: there is only HTTPS on the NextCloud serve, and NextCloud works > perfectly fine in Firefox. > > How can I debug this and/or resolve this? Looks to be a bug in Nextcloud: https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/20624 -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Failed to connect calendar “CalDAV : NextCloud"
Hello, Since NextCloud v18.0.4 release I have been unable to connect Evolution v3.30.5-1.1 to continuously CalDAV. I can setup a CalDAV in Evolution, and Evolution does prompts for the password and can correctly query NextCloud for available calendars to select, but when the CalDAV connection is saved, Evolution persists to display a blue banner with: Failed to connect calendar “CalDAV : NextCloud" Failed with HTTP error 404: Not Found. NOTE: there is only HTTPS on the NextCloud serve, and NextCloud works perfectly fine in Firefox. How can I debug this and/or resolve this? tia, -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] CTRL+U, CTRL+SHIFT+F, enter [345]+
On Wed, 2020-04-08 at 17:39 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Wed, 2020-04-08 at 11:11 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > Evo v3.30.5 (Debian Buster) > > > > Something that's been bugging me for a while now. > > > > 1) Enter CTRL+U on this email (View eMail Source) > > > > 2) Enter CTRL+SHIFT+F (Search eMail Source) > > > > 3) Enter "4" (Search for the numeral 4 in the eMail Source) > > > > > > On my laptop the numerals 3,4,5 don't work in the Source Search box, > > I can confirm this in 3.34.5 on Fedora 31. Pressing the numeral very > quickly twice works though. Probably worth a bug report at > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/new Thanks Andre, done: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/868 -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] CTRL+U, CTRL+SHIFT+F, enter [345]+
Hello! Evo v3.30.5 (Debian Buster) Something that's been bugging me for a while now. 1) Enter CTRL+U on this email (View eMail Source) 2) Enter CTRL+SHIFT+F (Search eMail Source) 3) Enter "4" (Search for the numeral 4 in the eMail Source) On my laptop the numerals 3,4,5 don't work in the Source Search box, they do work in the normal email search box. Additionally, # (SHIFT+3), $ (SHITF+4), and % (SHIFT+5) do work in the Source Search box. Question(s): Does this same problem happen for anyone else? Could this be a software bug or a hardware bug? Thanks! -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Context menu plugin
On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 21:38 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 20:59 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 14:37 -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > Is there a context menu plugin such that I can right-click and > > > send a > > > highlighted word to a web search? > > > > No there is not. > > That's a nice idea, that is worth to file a request for enhancement > at > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues ;). Instead of a > highlighted word only, it should be possible to highlight a phrase or > absurd abbreviations, too ;). Most likely nobody is able to keep up > with > the increasingly changes of Internet slang word meaning. Internet > slang > that would cause an immediately ban from this mailing list, could have > a > completely harmless meaning nowadays and vice versa. I copy and paste > all the times to do inquiries regarding some cryptic letter strings > and > also to learn something about less trivial issues. > Done! https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/289 -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Context menu plugin
Is there a context menu plugin such that I can right-click and send a highlighted word to a web search? tia, -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [OT / Meta] Evolution list as source of spam
On Wed, 2019-01-16 at 02:26 +0100, Ángel wrote: > For what it's worth… I am too receiving such msgid spam. > > Prompted by this thread, I did some analysis on the origin of these > spams. Basically, extracting *camel* > /tmp/spam-msgids.txt > sed -i "s/$/@bar>/;s/^/Message-ID: > Plus a bunch of fgrep -f /tmp/spam-msgids.txt -r . > and modifying that file with > cut -d: -f 3- /tmp/a | sort -u | sed 's#^M.*#sed -i "s/&/bash\t&/" > /tmp/spam-msgids.txt#e' > > The original emails come from several lists and, I should note, > evolution list is *not* the one from which more message-ids were > harvested (only three email addresses, they stopped being sent spam on > 2017). > > poc mentioned the possibility that the emails were being harvested > from the archives. While GNOME lists don't directly link to a mbox > that would be easily findable to a naive email address crawler, I find > evidence that some of these spammers are using archives from somewhere > rather than subscribing a bot that adds people to the list on real > time. > > For instance, there is the 727451.11377.1.camel "email address", which > is a truncation of 1459727451.11377.1.camel sent to a ietf list on > April 2016. The "short" email started being used on August *2018* for > "investing in your country" scams, and the long one… on December 2018. > > I find unlikely that someone harvesting email addresses with a > subscribed bot would have waited several years before starting to > spam. > > That's not always the case, obviously. A Dec 14 message-id started > getting spammed on Jan 1, and already "received" 84 spam mails by now. > However, a "sibling" message-id from that same list also started > getting spammed on Jan 1, but only a couple mails. (fwiw, the 86 mails > are from @qq.com addresses) Interesting. I primarily see these coming from posts I make to the Mailman and Debian lists. > This can be due to bots prepared for it, or, simply, that certain > archive of this list was crawled more often (or at the right time). > I would expect that if someone took the (not-that-big) effort of > building a subscription bot, he should at least get the email > addresses right! > > It has been interesting to look at these spams, their use of > message-ids, given their role as identifiers, allows gathering some > interesting information that would not be possible without them > stupidly interpreting message-ids as if they were email addresses, and > cannot be used with normal addresses, that are generally used in more > contexts. > > > In the context of this discussion, I am including the email-like > strings 1547601230.4258.6.t...@16bits.net as well as > 1547601405.8896.3.t...@16bits.net for the 'benefit' of those spambots > reading us. :) ;-) -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Create link to a specific mail in Evolution
On Thu, 2018-12-27 at 21:06 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2018-12-27 at 11:54 -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-12-27 at 08:48 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > Evolution will also allow you to drag-n-drop a message to the > > > desktop, producing a PDF. > > > > That would be awesome, except for me it just creates the msg as a > > mbox. > > :-( > > > > What's the secret to the PDF magic? > > See the topic "Save messages as PDF" under "Help > Contents". Thanks! -Jim P. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Create link to a specific mail in Evolution
On Thu, 2018-12-27 at 08:48 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Evolution will also allow you to drag-n-drop a message to the > desktop, producing a PDF. That would be awesome, except for me it just creates the msg as a mbox. :-( What's the secret to the PDF magic? tia, -Jim P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.30.1-1
On Wed, 2018-10-31 at 10:11 -0400, Jacque Hurley via evolution-list wrote: > Reminders has "Snooze" and "Dismiss" grayed out so cannot be chosen. > What is going on? Focus. When I experience this issue it's usually resolved by clicking on the window titlebar thereby giving the window focus. -Jim P. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar "List" view
On Sat, 2018-09-29 at 11:14 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Sat, 2018-09-29 at 00:27 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-09-28 at 23:19 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > I don't think you can display more than than a month(ish) at a > > > time, > > > but the display is not restricted to just the current month. > > > > :( > > > > Thanks, do you think it's worthwhile opening up a feature request > > (or > > even submitting a patch) to have the list view 6-12 months worth of > > events? > > Also see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230449#c13 and > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739939 > Thanks! Obviously someone needs to send a few future calendar GUADEC events to Milan and then follow-up with a question about what dates it will be held in the future. :-) -Jim P. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar "List" view
On Fri, 2018-09-28 at 23:19 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > Is it possible to have more than the current month's events > > displayed in > > the "List" view? > > > > v3.22.6 (Debian Stable) > > Don't know about that version, but on 3.28.5 the content of the list > reflects the highlighted region of the calendar in the bottom left Same for v3.22.6. > I don't think you can display more than than a month(ish) at a time, > but the display is not restricted to just the current month. :( Thanks, do you think it's worthwhile opening up a feature request (or even submitting a patch) to have the list view 6-12 months worth of events? -Jim P. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Calendar "List" view
Hello! Is it possible to have more than the current month's events displayed in the "List" view? v3.22.6 (Debian Stable) -Jim P. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] PGP signing and aliases
On Sun, 2018-08-12 at 16:14 +0200, Gary C Curtin wrote: > On Sun, 2018-08-12 at 09:55 +0200, Gary Curtin wrote: > Any idea on how to prevent aliases taking the parent signature, but > still have the parent account enabled for signature by default? > > Solved this myself by not using aliases, and setting up an SMTP only > account for each address that was previously an alias. So much for > the alias feature! Hmmm, I've been using separate smtp sending accounts, but I've noticed that signed email (such as this one) displays uid 0 regardless of which subkey was used. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? -Jim P. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] The backspace key: Ummm.. is that suppose to happen lol?
On Sun, 2018-07-29 at 22:32 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > Evo has a thing that got called "the magic spacebar" - pressing > spacebar will scroll you through a message, when it gets to the end > it will take you to the next unread message, in the next folder if > necessary. It doesn't seem to take me to the next message in the next folder, rather it takes me to the last-read message in the next folder. A subsequent spacebar press then takes me to the next un-read message in the folder. So, it's double-space to go to the next un-read message in another folder... -Jim P. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
