Re: [Evolution] encrypt if possible

2019-05-28 Thread Lukas Pirl
On Fri, 2019-05-10 00:03 +0200, Ángel wrote as excerpted:
> The problem is, you need to send so many mails in the clear, you end up
> with a default of not encrypting any.

Well, the default of not encrypting is exactly why I'd appreciate an option
that enables encryption automatically if the recipient's key is available. 

Every email that is encrypted is better than an email not being encrypted,
IMHO. Same with HTTP/S: I try to visit all sites using SSL but if that is not
possible, I usually accept the connection without SSL as well (but I then
know, e.g., not to enter any confidential data).

> > And what in cases where you send to multiple recipients and one of 
> > them doesn't have the public key?
> 
> IMHO you should send it in the clear. This is opportunistic encryption.
> Half-encrypting the mail seems more confusing than "Sorry, it couldn't be
> sent encrypted while also sending it to John"

It had to be expected that there are different opinions on this. :) I agree
that sending the email multiple times (encrypted and non-encrypted) would be
confusing.

Personally, I'd expect the error message that I see now if I tick "always
encrypt" and send an email to a recipient for which there is no GPG key
available. In other words:

1. "encrypt if a recipient's key is available" (or similar) is activated
   in the settings
2. I try to send a message to two recipients: one for which a key is 
   available (a...@example.com), one for which there is no key available 
   (b...@example.com)
3. Evolution shows an error that there is no key available for
   b...@example.com (and ideally, that it tries to encrypt this email because
   there is a key available for a...@example.com).

But again, I see that there are the two opinions on how to handle this
situation and they are both totally valid.

One way to make transparent to the user is to make the behavior explicit in
the preferences, e.g., with a drop down menu element showing three options:

  Encrypt automatically?

* "never"
* "if all recipients' keys are available"
* "if any recipient's key is available"

> > especially if you agreed with the other recipients to always encrypt
> > messages.
> 
> I think that should be a setting for the Contact (like "wants HTML"), that 
> (independently to this proposed setting) could trigger an alert if sending
> in plain
> to a contact marked as "always send encrypted" (not sure if it should also
> change
> automatically a plaintext default if sending to contacts with that tag and
> for which we have a key).

That'd be okay as well. Although, one could argue that after importing a key, 
users would also have to remember to change this setting for the contact in 
order to have the correspondence with that person encrypted automatically.

Best,

Lukas


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Re: [Evolution] What key function CTRL+J do?

2019-05-15 Thread Lukas Pirl
Dario,

On Wed, 2019-05-15 17:02 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote as excerpted:
> ... but my ~/.config/evolution/accels file is empty:
> 
> [lesca@dodo ~]$ cat ~/.config/evolution/accels
> ; evolution GtkAccelMap rc-file -*- scheme -*-
> ; this file is an automated accelerator map dump
> 
> There is another (global?) default access file?

yes… it's a bit cryptic. If Evolution is open, the file contains only 
custom/modified accelerators. Once you close Evolution, Evolution will dump all 
the default accelerators to that file (commented out).

Best,

Lukas


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Re: [Evolution] What key function CTRL+J do?

2019-05-15 Thread Lukas Pirl
On Wed, 2019-05-15 15:45 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote as excerpted:
> I mistakenly press the CTRL+J key, and my message is disappeared
> 
> What happened to my message?
> 
> What this key accelerator do?

It depends on the view our are in but you probably marked your message as junk:

$ grep 'j' ~/.config/evolution/accels
; (gtk_accel_path "/calendar/calendar-view-workweek" "j")
; (gtk_accel_path "/mail/mail-mark-junk" "j")
; (gtk_accel_path "/gal-view/gal-view-calendar-1" "j")
; (gtk_accel_path "/action-group-standard/mail-mark-junk" "j")

lp


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[Evolution] encrypt if possible

2019-05-06 Thread Lukas Pirl
Dear all,

(how) can Evolution (be configured to) always encrypt emails if the
recipients' public keys are available?

There is an option to "always encrypt", but I don't have/want/need the
public keys of most of my contacts (and most of them have none anyway). If
that option is enabled, I get an error message every time sending an email to
a contact for which no public key is available. From my expectations, this is
correct behavior.

However, what I'd also expect is the availability of an option saying "always
encrypt emails when sending to contacts for which public keys are available".
Can this be achieved?

Thanks in advance and best,

Lukas


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Re: [Evolution] Keyboard shortcuts and Search bar

2019-04-12 Thread Lukas Pirl
On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 09:07 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 00:00 +0200, Lukas Pirl wrote:
> > > What is the accel file entry (default) for jumping or getting in to
> > > the ’Search bar’ -AND- Can we configure a custom shortcut for
> > > jumping to the Search bar?

> For the search entry it's Altr+C here
> (English locale, the translators can choose a different letter).

Fair enough for now. Users could use the wonderful Autokey¹ to assign a custom
keyboard shortcut as a workaround.

> > once the focus is in the search input, how to focus the message list
> > again?
> 
> Tab, Tab, Tab (3-times Tab) works here. The first Tab focuses the "in"
> part of the Search (aka "Current Folder"), the second Tab focuses the
> To Do bar (when you've it hidden, it'll be two Tab-s only), the third
> Tab focuses the message list.

True; a bit cumbersome but bearable.

> > Something like "Esc" would be nice to "clear the search and focus the
> > message list".

> I've been thinking of that, it would make the UI
> slightly lighter too (showing the Show: ... Search:" part only if any
> filtering is enabled from it), but it's not the current state. The Esc
> won't work well when the Search is empty and the Show has set anything
> but the All Message item, though it's a matter of allowing the Esc to
> disable both parts, not a matter of code/design/... obstacles. Well,
> once the bar is changed, which is not the case now. Something close to
> your request seems to be filled here [1] (the request can be fine-tuned 
> there).

Apart from Esc, yes, making the search bar Ctrl+Shift+F-like would be nice to
save some screen space for unused UI elements (i.e., hide the search bar when
currently not filtering, in this case).

Best,

Lukas

¹ https://github.com/autokey/autokey



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Re: [Evolution] search emails on (IMAP) server

2019-04-12 Thread Lukas Pirl
On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 11:27 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> I may not lie, but there's more to it.  It depends on what sort of
> search you are doing.  If Evo can do the search locally (like searching
> for Subject or Address - i.e. fields it downloads automatically) then
> it will do. It is only for searches such as "Message Contains" or "Body
> Contains" that it uses server side.

Thanks Pete, I extended the merge request¹ accordingly.

lp

¹ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/merge_requests/8/diffs



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Re: [Evolution] Keyboard shortcuts and Search bar

2019-04-12 Thread Lukas Pirl
On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 11:58 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 00:00 +0200, Lukas Pirl wrote:
> > once the focus is in the search input, how to focus the message list
> > again?
> 
> F6 is used in GNOME for this.

Thanks Andre.

However, when in the search input, F6 toggles the focus between the folder list 
and the search input on my instance of Gnome/Evoltuion (Shell 3.30.2, Evolution 
3.32.1).

Cheers,

Lukas



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Re: [Evolution] search emails on (IMAP) server

2019-04-12 Thread Lukas Pirl
On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 14:47 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> If your IMAP server advertises that it supports server side search,
> then Evolution will use it. 

Thanks Pete.
Looking at the process stats of my email server, you don't seem to lie. :)

For future reference (i.e., other users trying to find this functionality in
the menus), I tried to mention this automagism on the help pages:

  https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/merge_requests/8/diffs

Best,

Lukas


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Re: [Evolution] Keyboard shortcuts and Search bar

2019-04-11 Thread Lukas Pirl
On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 12:14 -0400, Sandeep Khanna via evolution-list wrote:
> Keyboard shortcuts without any modifiers or at least one modifier such as
> the ’Shift’ key (Shift + t for adding an email as a Task) are
> inadvertently   triggered when typing in the Search bar.

I am very happy to report that I don't see this happening with 3.32.1 anymore.
Good job devs.

> What is the accel file entry (default) for jumping or getting in to the
> ’Search bar’ -AND- Can we configure a custom shortcut for jumping to the
> Search bar?


+1, that is relevant to my interest as well. Plus the other way around: once
the focus is in the search input, how to focus the message list again?
Something like "Esc" would be nice to "clear the search and focus the message
list".

Best,

Lukas



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[Evolution] search emails on (IMAP) server

2019-04-11 Thread Lukas Pirl
Dear all,

with Evolution 3.32.1, is it possible to run search queries on an IMAP server?
If users have a few thousand emails, downloading them all for a local search
is not really feasible.

Cheers,

Lukas



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