Re: [Evolution] Backing up Evolution Data

2015-09-09 Thread Roy Reese
On Wednesday, 09/09/2015 Andrea Vai wrote:
> I was also wondering about a better name... what about "Export
> Evolution data" and "Import Evolution data"? Despite they would be
> similar to the below "Import..." menu item, I think that they would
> be clearly understood as different things (evo vs external data)

There is probably not a perfect solution to this, but the back and forth 
reminds me that in the Spanish translation Evo uses "respaldar" which has the 
sense of providing support (to back someone/something) or in some cases to 
guarantee. Using "respaldar" for "to back up" may be an accepted sense in some 
Latin American dialects, but here in Spain you back up by making a backup copy 
("hacer una copia de seguridad"). So, in a curious way the Evo "backup" here is 
already distinct from the "backup" we generally think of in English.
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Re: [Evolution] Authentication Issues with Exchange Web Services

2015-06-10 Thread Roy Reese
 Patrick but we now have 3.17 already no? Is there a 
 distribution which really keeps up to date on stable 
 releases? (even arch was falling behind I think. Maybe 
 gentoo?)
 Ps. Ubuntu 15.04 can also have 3.16 with a PPA...

Arch likely is not very far behind. Manjaro, which delays just a bit more, has 
3.16.2 which arrived in either the update of the 17th or 30th of May. I expect 
another update this weekend which may see 3.16.3.
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Re: [Evolution] Authentication Issues with Exchange Web Services

2015-06-10 Thread Roy Reese
On Jun 10, 2015 11:40 PM, Roy Reese waterbeare...@gmx.com wrote:
 Arch likely is not very far behind. Manjaro, which 
 delays just a bit more, has 3.16.2 which arrived in 
 either the update of the 17th or 30th of May. I 
 expect another update this weekend which may see 3.16.3.
 Yeah, but we are already at 3.17.2 stable as far as I 
 can see from git and we may see 3.18 in some weeks I 
 guess. Why are they stuck at 3.16?
 Emre

I should have specified that I am on the stable branch of Manjaro -- and 3.16 
is the current stable version of Evo. 3.17 is the development branch:  
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/. As far as status, I saw the note about 
Arch (on which Manjaro is based). Being based on Arch, 3.17 can be installed 
through the Arch Users Repository (AUR).
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Re: [Evolution] compile my own --- in addition to: Authentication Issues with Exchange Web Services

2015-06-09 Thread Roy Reese

 Enviar:martes 9 de junio de 2015 a las 18:29
 De:Patrick OCallaghan p...@usb.ve
On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 18:18 +0200, Tom wrote:
 Id love to compile my own Evolution from time to time - as
 practically everyone here on the list seems to do from the sound of
 it ?!!



 Im not sure how you got that idea. I would guess that almost nobody
 compiles Evo for themselves. Its quite complicated to do. Last time I
 did it was 4 or 5 years ago. Youre better just using a Linux distro
 that keeps its software up to date, but thats your choice.



In this case it is more than the distro, for Tom can choose NOT to use the LTS version of Ubuntu, which would allow him to have a much more up-to-date version of Evolution (an other software). The *buntus already have a more recent LTS from last year (14.04) and a non-LTS from this year (15.04). These relseases will offer Evos a bit behind the current stable version, but not THAT far. Version numbers at the moment exaggerate the situation a bit given that version numbers in Evo were changed to match Gnome.



I started with Linux Mint 13 (Ubuntu 12.04 base) about three years ago, came somewhat more up-to-date with Mageia 3 and 4 (Evo 3.10) and now Manjaro (3.16). At this point I could not imagine returning to a 5-year LTS, so were I a *buntu user I would update either biennially or semiannually.



As someone observed, the close tie of Evo to Gnome will no doubt complicate running it in older distro releases, but there are those of us who have never run Evo under Gnome Shell -- and have no intention of doing so.



(Apologies to Patrick who just received this as an off-list message as a result of my mistake.)

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Re: [Evolution] Mailing list filters

2015-03-14 Thread Roy Reese
 On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 17:46 +, Justin Musgrove wrote:
  My apologizes for my ignorance with using an incorrect method. Is there
  a method in evolution to prompt a different reply methods in lieu of
  the global option?

 The default settings for replying and forwarding can be changed under
 Edit ▸ Preferences ▸ Composer Preferences ▸ General ▸ Replies and
 Forwards ▸ Reply style.

 (from
 https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-composer-reply.html )
 
 I think the OP may have been asking if there is a way to do this
 differently according to the kind of message. That could be a useful
 option, e.g. when replying to a list versus a non-list message.

Given that HTML seems the prevalent form these days, in part being the 
default for most if not all webmail accounts and perhaps others, I 
would second Patrick's suggestion.
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Re: [Evolution] [OT] Mailing list filters

2015-03-14 Thread Roy Reese
 On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 12:02 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Sat, 2015-03-14 at 09:49 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
  And I would STRONGLY refute your assertion that HTML is prevalent these
  days - less than about 5% of the emails I receive (that aren't spam) are
  HTML.

 Same here, but I don't know if anyone really knows. Most of my mail in
 terms of numbers of messages comes through lists such as this one, in
 which HTML is strongly discouraged. Most of the rest is from people
 using some kind of webmail, or an app on their phone, and that tends to
 be in the form of rich text. Not much is HTML aside from marketing.
 
 Most mails I receive are from Linux and FreeBSD mailing lists and less
 of them are HTML formatted, most are plain text. Most private mails I
 receive from people who aren't geeks, are HTML formatted, less are plain
 text or RTF.


OK, I did not mean to set off a firestorm here.

Andre, you're quite right to challenge the generalization -- which goes for the 
strong challenge as well. It will depend quite a bit on the mix of messages 
and the application one uses for writing them. I receive quite a bit of 
newsletters, so, yes, it is all HTML. I also use web interfaces at times when 
away from my computers, so my sample is skewed. Someone receiving messages 
primarily from listservs and developers certainly sees a different mix as Ralf 
points out.

Patrick, you properly called me out for adding idle chat rather than acting on 
my beliefs. An enhancement request has been filed here:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746211

Best,
Roy
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Under Xbuntu/non-Gnome

2015-02-23 Thread Roy Reese
 That's a misunderstanding. Evolution has got GNOME dependencies, but
 doesn't need a GNOME install. Among other DEs/WMs I used Evolution with
 Xfce4/xfwm4, JWM and currently I reply running openbox.


Yes, I've run Evo under KDE (!) and Enlightenment (curren DE) with no problems. 
The install just brings in the needed dependencies (e.g., gnome keyring under 
KDE) as mentioned. I think, but would love to hear clarification, the issue is 
with versions of Gnome, such that trying to install Evo 3.12/3.14 with a much 
earlier version of Gnome or a Gnome-based DE (e.g., Unity running in Ubuntu 
12.04) could cause problems.

As an off-topic aside, the soon-to-be-released XFCE 4.12 looks like a really 
nice set of incremental advances in a very solid DE.
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Re: [Evolution] libical version?

2015-02-16 Thread Roy Reese

 I still got some odd Calendar problems and I wonder if
 some of them could be connected to which version of libical
 evolution uses.
 I got libical versions 0.48-r2, 1.0-r2 and 1.0.1 to select from,
 what does users on this list use?

 Jocke
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Jocke, I have 1.0.1-1 with Evo 3.12.9 running in Manjaro and note nothing odd. 
Best, Roy
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Re: [Evolution] Debugging theme conflict

2014-12-19 Thread Roy Reese
On Sat, 2014-12-13 at 20:05 Ralf Mardorf said:
 If Evolution crashes, and you can reproduce it, than start Evolution in
 a debugger like gdb:

Thank you, Ralf. gdb was what I needed. I had seen the Evo documentation on debugging Caldev, but was getting an unknown command in bash. I have filed a bug report:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741796

Best,
Roy
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[Evolution] Debugging theme comflict

2014-12-13 Thread Roy Reese
Running Evo 3.12.8 under Manjaro Enlightment (E19) edition (fully updated).

I recently switched to the E17gtk theme which provides an Enlightenment-like theme to gtk programs. Evo looks great in the theme, but the calendar (ONLY) crashes with a floating point exception. The calendar interface loads up fine, but at the point of laying out the day and listing appointments, Evo crashes. Terminal output provides little help:

(evolution:1581): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
Excepcin de coma flotante (core generado)

I would like to get debugging information to pass along to the package maintainer and have looked at the wiki, but am still unsure how to do it. I apologize for the simple question, but appreciate the help.

Roy W. Reese
Madrid, Spain
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Re: [Evolution] Broken threading

2014-10-26 Thread Roy Reese
Enviar: domingo 26 de octubre de 2014 a las 12:50
De: Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk
Para: evolution-list@gnome.org
Asunto: Re: [Evolution] Broken threading


 [1] http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

This made me chuckle :-)

(Some people assert that many hackers have a mild form of autism
or Asperger's Syndrome, and are actually missing some of the
brain circuitry that lubricates “normal” human social
interaction. This may or may not be true. If you are not a
hacker yourself, it may help you cope with our eccentricities if
you think of us as being brain-damaged. Go right ahead. We won't
care; we like being whatever it is we are, and generally have a
healthy skepticism about clinical labels.)

P.

At the risk of beating an already quite dead horse, one need not assume any 
(psycho)pathology or failure to understand normal human social interaction. 
We need to remember that e-mail messages always seem more negative to the 
reader than the writer because they lack the nuances given by tone of voice, 
etc. This makes it advisable to avoid being caustic or even curt. Danel 
Goleman nailed the problem in this short piece in the NY Times a few years back:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/07/jobs/07pre.html?_r=0
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Re: [Evolution] Migrate data from 2.28,3 to 3.10.4

2014-10-04 Thread Roy Reese
On Sat, 2014-10-044 at 17:27 +0200 Ralf Mardof wrote:
 You can download from an IMAP server and delete them there too and
 even store IMAP in your home, but that's where the issues with IMAP
 started for me, by getting duplicated emails. I'm using POP, but I
 never upgraded by such huge steps as 2.28.3 to 3.10.4. Nowadays I'm
 using a rolling release, so I only update from one to the next
 release.
 
While the issue of IMAP v. POP has been widely commented, I have not seen 
comments in the thread about the Linux Mint update procedure outlined here:
 
http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2
 
The process involves making an backup of the home directory (for which Mint 
provides a tool), which would include the Evo data. I would follow the Evo 
backup procedure to try to restore later. However, the Mint update procedure 
should be sufficient to assure that there is a separate copy of all data.
 
In response to a prior suggestion, I recently had to move selected messages 
from one Evo installation to another and used the procedure described earlier 
for creating a file and treating it as a separate account and then moving the 
messages to my account. The approach works perfectly and is something I first 
learned after trying Kmail . . . and discovering after the fact that it had no 
export function!
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[Evolution] Message List vs Kde

2014-09-24 Thread Roy Reese
 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:04:48 -0700
 From: Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Evolution] Message List vs Kde
 Message-ID: 1411585488.1814.1.camel@amito.localdomain
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 
 The message list doesn't display properly under KDE. I've tried a
 number of different themes, using KDE System Settings:
 
 KDE-System Settings-Application Appearance-GTK+
 Appearance-Widget Style
 
 which right now is set to Clearlooks. The problem is that text in the
 selection bar is hard to read because the bar is dark and the text is
 black. An image is attached (Evo.jpg); sorry for the blurring, which is
 an artifact of jpg compression. Using the standard theme (oxygen-gtk)
 the problem is that the selection bar is almost invisibly light. Every
 theme has its own problem; the issues seem to be the same under LXDE;
 but Evolution displays everything properly under Gnome, with the
 selection bars intense blue and the selected text white.
 
 Does anyone know what's going on, or how to fix it? If not, it looks
 like a bug. Does anyone know whether the problem is fixed or lessened
 in Fedora-21, in which KDE and Gnome will (hopefully) know each other
 better.
 
 Thanks - jon


Hi jon,

You don't say which version you are using. I had this problem a couple of years 
ago when I was running Mint MATE (probably about Evo 3.8.x). As I recall it was 
an issue of gtk2 not working well (which all or most of the Clearlooks themes 
are). At the moment I am running Evo 3.12 with Manjaro E18 and it works with 
beautifully with ClearlooksWise (a GTK2 theme which is part of 
Clearlooks-Colors). I have another comuter with Mageia 4 KDE, but unlike most 
KDE setups, it does not have the usual setting for GTK themes -- or at least 
not in the usual spot. However, Evo 3.10 worked without problems in it.

My best guess would be that you need to try a GTK3 theme or move to a more 
recent version of Evo.

Best,
Roy
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Re: [Evolution] Very Annoying Behaviour of Keyboard Input

2014-07-27 Thread Roy Reese

On Sun, 27 July, Angel wrote:
 
 I suspect though that it's something to do with using Evo under KDE.
 Perhaps there has been some update to KDE that has made things worse?
 
I also suspect it's related to either KDE, some KDE setting or some
application you're starting at the same time.
 
However, as the problem became so often, you can open evolution in Gnome
and check whether it still fails there.
 
FWIW: I have been using evolution in Ubuntu 12.04 under Gnome classic
for months, without hitting the reported problem.
 
Did you try pressing and releasing the modifier keys (Ctrl, Alt?) in
Zcase evo got ?confused? and instead of A thought you were pressing
Ctrl+Alt+A ?
 
I would suspect KDE as well. There is nothing similar happening in other 
programs?

My KDE (Mageia 4; Linux kernel 3.12;KDE 4.11) has been annoying me with input 
and copying issues. I am able to point and even highlight things in active 
Firefox, LibreOffice and Evo (3.10.2) windows (my most frequently used 
programs), only to have data entry, copying or pasting fail until I hit ESC or 
*sometimes* click on what is a presumably active window. In Evo, it is a pain 
since ESC in an open message closes it!

I have a new install of Manjaro e18 on a netbook (with Evo 3.12.4) where I have 
not noticed the problem, but I confess to not having worked with the install 
long enough to say for sure.

Best,
Roy

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Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-25 Thread Roy Reese
Matthew and Patrick,

Thanks for the replies. I do not recall installing gnome keyring myself, so 
think it came as a dependency for Evo 3.10.2. The problem is that Evo never 
seems to ask either keyring for a password -- nor does it ask ME for a password 
-- unlike the behavior I have on a Linux Mint netbook with Evo 3.2.3.

I just experimented further starting Evo from the terminal and composing and 
attempting to send a message . . . which led to the follow error:

(evolution:22938): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion 'text != 
NULL' failed

TIA for any additional help as I don't know the workings of Evo enough to 
decipher this.

Roy
- Mensaje original -
De: Patrick O'Callaghan
Enviado: 24-02-14 17:15
Para: Matthew Barnes
Asunto: Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

On 24 February 2014 13:37, Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com wrote:  I don't 
think you need gnome-keyring. KDE uses KWallet, doesn't it? Yes.  Evolution 
just speaks to the org.freedesktop.secrets D-Bus interface,  and both 
gnome-keyring and KWallet export that interface [1]. I don't  know what 
happens when they're both installed and compete for the name. Using KDE, in 
previous versions of Evo I would frequently get two popups asking for the 
password (although they both looked like GTK dialogues). Currently (3.10.4) I 
just get one. Apparently in Gnome you don't get any as long as your keyring 
password matches your login password. Or something. poc
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Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution [SOLVED]

2014-02-25 Thread Roy Reese
Many thanks to all who responded to my cries for help. I seem to have a 
functioning system now!

The trick was to:

 Uninstall gnome-keyring and
 Reinstall gnome-keyring

That was it! I do not know if a) gnome-keyring itself did not install properly 
or b) one or more dependencies were missing (despite the assertion that RPM 
does not allow packeages to be installed with unresolved dependencies) or c) I 
inadvertently did something along the way.

What I think I learned

OK, yes, I am a relative newbie to Linux (about 1.5 years with Linux Mint 13 
MATE and 8-9 months with Mageia KDE) -- and will confess that I have not used 
command lines much since the days of MS-DOS. So, I have learned a bit more 
about Linux -- other than how to distro hop. :)

More importantly to address an issue that was raised during my agonizing: it 
would appear that KWallet and Gnome keyring can co-exist -- and that Evo will 
not call KWallet (or at least the latter will not respond). I did try running 
Evo without gnome-keyring, but it would not function. After reinstalling the 
keyring it behaved normally asking for a master password and the password for 
the e-mail account.

Again, thanks to Matthew, Patrick, Pete, Ralf, Rick and anyone whose response 
may have crossed this message in cyberspace.

Roy W. Reese
Madrid, Spain
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Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-24 Thread Roy Reese
One more question regarding Evolution. As I said before when setting up 
accounts in Evo under Mageia KDE, even though the servers require passwords the 
option to remember the password is not present -- and Evo never asks for a 
password. Questions:

1) Does this indicate a keyring issue or somethig else or some possible 
combination?

2) Although gnome keyring programs are installed:
 gnome-keyring
 lib64gnome-keyring-gir1.0
 lib64gnome-keyring0
 I see one keyring file available in the Mageia repositories that is not 
installed, but do not know if it is needed:
 gnome-keyring-sharp (labeled Mono implementation of gnome keyring API)

Regarding an earlier query, from what I have seen the following warning is 
simply that and not a fatal error. It wll presumably appear when running a 
gnome application in a DE other than Gnome:

(evolution:5868): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

TIA for whatever thoughts and suggestions you can offer.

Roy W. Reese
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Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-22 Thread Roy Reese
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 05:01:29 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf 
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net 
http://www.gmx.es/callgate-6.73.1.0/rms/6.73.1.0/mail/getBody?folderId=2messageId=SEZmajxlHXNkZ0WLXyIi8TtoaqO18wTGpurpose=displaybodyType=html#
  To: evolution-list@gnome.org 
http://www.gmx.es/callgate-6.73.1.0/rms/6.73.1.0/mail/getBody?folderId=2messageId=SEZmajxlHXNkZ0WLXyIi8TtoaqO18wTGpurpose=displaybodyType=html#
  Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution Message-ID: 
1392955289.682.132.camel@archlinux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 
On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 16:41 -0500, Rick Leir wrote:  Here is what u should see 
for Evo 2.8.22:  $ ls -l ~/.evolution/ The OP is using Evolution 3.x. Btw. 
this GMX.com Web Mailer thingy the OP is using breaks the thread with each 
reply, so it was not that funny to search the reply that mentions Evolution 
3.x. I guess it won't help the OP, but this is how the directories look like 
for 3.10.4 on my machine: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ l
 s -l ~/.config/evolution/ ~/.local/share/evolution/ 
/home/rocketmouse/.config/evolution/: total 60 -rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse 
rocketmouse 26784 Feb 19 23:55 accels drwx-- 3 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 
Feb 20 13:19 addressbook drwx-- 3 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Feb 4 11:38 
calendar -rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 372 Feb 20 14:10 cert_trees.ini 
drwxr-xr-x 4 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Feb 21 04:44 mail drwx-- 3 
rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Feb 4 11:38 memos drwx-- 2 rocketmouse 
rocketmouse 4096 Dec 20 18:07 signatures drwx-- 2 rocketmouse rocketmouse 
4096 Feb 5 11:38 sources drwx-- 3 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Feb 4 11:38 
tasks /home/rocketmouse/.local/share/evolution/: total 44 drwx-- 4 
rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Feb 19 2013 addressbook -rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse 
rocketmouse 107 Dec 6 01:44 backup-restore-dconf-eds.ini -rw-r--r-- 1 
rocketmouse rocketmouse 5541 Dec 6 01:44 backup-restore-dconf-evo.ini 
drwx-- 4 rocketmouse rocketmouse 
 4096 Apr 22 2013 calendar -rw--- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 491 Feb 21 2013 
camel-cert.db -rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 3732 Dec 12 2011 
categories.xml drwxr-xr-x 9 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Dec 5 17:16 mail 
drwx-- 4 rocketmouse rocketmouse 4096 Apr 22 2013 memos -rw-r--r-- 1 
rocketmouse rocketmouse 0 Aug 24 10:14 printing.ini drwx-- 2 rocketmouse 
rocketmouse 4096 Jul 26 2012 signatures drwx-- 4 rocketmouse rocketmouse 
4096 Apr 22 2013 tasks JFTR the packages have nothing to do with the content of 
~/.config/evolution/ and ~/.local/share/evolution/. Packages neither install, 
nor remove something to/from /home. Search for the installed files using your 
package management. For Arch Linux it's [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Ql 
evolution | grep home evolution 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/evolution-mail-composer/home.png evolution 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/evolution-mail-formatter/home.png evolution 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/evolution-shell/home.png evolution /
 usr/share/gtk-doc/html/evolution-util/home.png [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ 
pacman -Ql evolution-data-server | grep home evolution-data-server 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/camel/home.png evolution-data-server 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libebackend/home.png evolution-data-server 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libebook-contacts/home.png evolution-data-server 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libebook/home.png evolution-data-server 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libecal/home.png evolution-data-server 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libedata-book/home.png evolution-data-server 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libedata-cal/home.png evolution-data-server 
/usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libedataserver/home.png 

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First, to respond to the issue of gnome that Rick Leir raised, there are 
various gnome components present, e.g., in /usr/share. I also have GIMP and 
GnuCash installed which seem to run without problems.

Here is the output of ls and package manage commands. I assume the lower number 
of files shown with ls is a result of this being a new installation with no 
data. Note further down that urpmi looks for exact matches, and --fuzzy was 
needed to generate the list of installed files.

ls -l ~/.config/evolution/
total 12
-rw-rw-r-- 1 aguador aguador 374 feb 20 10:26 cert_trees.ini
drwx-- 3 aguador aguador 4096 feb 20 21:18 mail/
drwxrwxr-x 2 aguador aguador 4096 feb 20 20:56 sources/

ls -l ~/.local/share/evolution/
total 28
drwxrwxr-x 3 aguador aguador 4096 feb 20 11:13 addressbook/
drwxrwxr-x 4 aguador aguador 4096 feb 20 11:13 calendar/
-rw--- 1 aguador aguador 532 feb 20 09:32 camel-cert.db
-rw-rw-r-- 1 aguador aguador 2595 feb 20 09:27 categories.xml
drwx-- 6 aguador aguador 4096 feb 20 11:13 mail/
drwxrwxr-x 4 aguador aguador 4096 feb 20 11:13 memos/
drwxrwxr-x 4 aguador aguador 4096 feb 20 11:13 tasks/

urpmq --l --fuzzy evolution | grep home (should cover evolution-data-server as 
well)

Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-20 Thread Roy Reese
- Original Message -
From: Matthew Barnes
Sent: 02/19/14 11:10 PM
To: Roy Reese
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 22:51 +0100, Roy Reese wrote:  Unfortnately I suspect 
that the basic uninstall of Evolution leaves  some files here and there. For 
example, any data I have moved from my  netbook magically appear after 
reinstall. So I am open to suggestions  for how to do a truly thorough 
uninstall before resorting to the more  radical approach of reinstalling the 
OS. See https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html.en In 
your case, the Account Settings directory is key. Matthew Barnes
Thank you, Matthew and Ralf. I uninstalled Evo, deleted all data files except 
$HOME/.config/dconf, and then reinstalled and configured and ran from zero 
(without transferring any data from my other machine). Same thing. Evolution 
hangs. Here I should be more explicit. First, Evo never asks for a password 
even though I have indicated that one is necessary (hence my assumption that 
the problem lies with the keyring). Second, the send and receive processes hang 
in the sense that no mail is retreived and the processes cannot be canceled nor 
can the program be closed, even though one can do other things such as look at 
notes, etc.
There are some differences I see in setting up Evo in 3.10.2 under Mageia KDE 
and the 3.2.3 version I have in Mint and don't know if they could be the source 
of the problem. First, even though I indicate in 3.10.2 that passwords are 
required in POP and STMP, Evo does not ask if I want it to remember the 
password. Second, in 3.2.3 I have specified TLS Encoding, in 3.10.2 STARTTLS 
after connecting. Third, on my Mageia machine Evo indicates two additional 
accounts: Search folder (set to vfolder) and On this machine (set to 
maildir).

Roy W. Reese
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Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-20 Thread Roy Reese
From: Rick Leir rl...@cirruscomputing.com 
http://www.gmx.es/callgate-6.73.1.0/rms/6.73.1.0/mail/getBody?folderId=2messageId=V0RKRxx0HmFhYFvvTnM1drIwOfhNUAebpurpose=displaybodyType=htmlreloadHack0.9069422082975507=true#
  To: evolution-list@gnome.org 
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  Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution Message-ID: 
1392895665.16134.56.ca...@chaos.team.virtualorgs.net 
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  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 
 Sorry, I should have spoken up yesterday.  Have you run strace(1)?  Have 
 you enabled logging? Something like  CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution  
 evo_log  HTH -- Rick  Rick Leir, Senior Developer  
 http://CirrusComputing.com/ http://CirrusComputing.com/lang=en  Rick, 
 Thanks, it helps even though I am not sure what do do with the output. Here 
 is the output of CAMEL_DEBUG:(evolution:5868): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to 
 register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The 
 name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files java 
 version 1.7.0_45 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (mageia-2.4.4.2.mga4-x86_64 
 u45-b15) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.45-b08, mixed mode) 



The output of strace is quite extensive, but here are some of missing 
file/directory messages (lines with . indicate omitted output):

execve(/usr/bin/evolution, [evolution], [/* 85 vars */]) = 0
brk(0) = 0xce8000
mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x7fe7bc733000
access(/etc/ld.so.preload, R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls/x86_64/libevolution-shell.so, 
O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls/x86_64, 0x7e16edb0) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls/libevolution-shell.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) 
= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/tls, 0x7e16edb0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file 
or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/x86_64/libevolution-shell.so, 
O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/x86_64, 0x7e16edb0) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libevolution-shell.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libical.so.1, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libedataserver-1.2.so.18, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) 
= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libcamel-1.2.so.45, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libpthread.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libwebkitgtk-3.0.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
.

open(/usr/lib64/evolution/3.10/libgtk-3.so.0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)

 - - - - -

In addition a lot of KDE theme icon files came up among the missing. But the 
following line caught my eye in strace output:

line 5619: stat(/home/aguador/.evolution, 0x7e16f3e0) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)

Why would this not be there? I installed Evo and Evo data server using Mageia's 
RPMDrake (omitting packages id'd as for development) and have assumed that this 
resulted in a complete installation, including dependencies.

Thanks again -- and in advance for any advice you can offer based on the above.
Roy
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[Evolution] Mageia KDE and Evolution

2014-02-19 Thread Roy Reese
Hi all,

I have settled on a distro and DE that suit my needs: Mageia + KDE. 
Unfortunately I have not been able to get Evolution to run in that environent. 
The program hangs when trying to send-receive.

After reading a lot and trying a number of tricks related to the usual suspect 
-- running gnome keyring under KDE, I STILL have a program that hangs (and can 
only be killed with a restart). However, adding insult to injury, when I posted 
a message at the Mageia forums, one of the Mageia helpers in the forum stated 
that he loaded Evolution and it ran without problems. This suggests that 
perhaps a fresh install would be in order.

Unfortnately I suspect that the basic uninstall of Evolution leaves some files 
here and there. For example, any data I have moved from my netbook magically 
appear after reinstall. So I am open to suggestions for how to do a truly 
thorough uninstall before resorting to the more radical approach of 
reinstalling the OS.

Background: I first installed Evolution (3.8.? - ??) on a 64-bit version of 
Mageia 3 and have since updated to Mageia 4 with Evolution 3.10.2.

(Footnote: I DO have Evolution 3.2.3 running on Linux Mint 13 MATE on a netbook 
-- apparently the latest version in the Mint repositories.)

Thanks for any and all suggestions,
Roy
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