Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 15:06 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote:
> On Sat, 2022-10-22 at 13:55 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > So the way to get it working as a proper mailing list is by turning off
> > Mailing List Mode. So intuitive.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> yesno, even after doing so, it is not working as a proper mailing list.
> The emails are still multipart messages with remote content, there's no
> real archive etc... If a user unsubscribes from evolution-list@gnome.org
> no posts are deleted from the archive. After deleting my Discourse
> account, my posts disappeared.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf

The posts shouldn't disappear.
According to a post in the Site feedback sub (I think it was), the post are
anonymized when a user account is deleted. The posts however are not.

I might have misunderstood this though.

In any case, I'm two millimeters from just giving up on this whole Discourse
thing because of Frustration(tm).
With that in mind I'd like to say thanks already now, to all on this list
who've helped me out during the last years when problems with Evolution has
arised (notable - EWS, tenant stuff, Office365 etc), as well as others
who've posted interesting stuff generally speaking.
Without those posts and help, my Evolution Mail experience would have
definitely been not very good.
So give you all a pat on the shoulder from me, and again, great thanks!




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Re: [Evolution] Oh for heavens sake ....

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 15:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 14:10 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > > I'm pretty sure you'll get a badge by tomorrow for your effort today!
> > > ;-)
> > 
> > He's close to the next level :D.
> > 
> Close to something ... I can assure this subject of this was not the
> first thing I typed.
> 

Oh, great. LOL!
Now I have to wipe off that coffee I blurted out on the monitors laughing
while reading these two comments. :*)

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Re: [Evolution] Oh for heavens sake ....

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 15:03 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> 
> What new fresh hell is this:
> 
>    We appreciate your enthusiasm, keep it up! That said, for the safety
>    of our community, you’ve reached the maximum number of replies a new
>    user can create on their first day. Please wait 21 hours and you’ll
>    be able to create more replies.
> 
> I can't even reply to my own Topic in "Site Feedback".
> 
> I wondered why my email reply to a user I WAS TRYING TO HELP hadn't
> appeared. It looks like it was just silently dropped.
> 

I'm pretty sure you'll get a badge by tomorrow for your effort today! ;-)


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Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

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On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 13:00 +0100, ja wrote:
> > > > 
> > > I only see those 5 items I listed above
> > > I was using Brave and tried Google Chrome - same 5 items
> > 
> > 
> > Using Chrome.
> > Try starting typing evolution in the Watched field. Evolution should
> > show
> > up; it did for me.
> > 
> > 
> Yes that was it - type it in!
> The window is only active when the list is pulled down!
> 
> Also received the same answer from my "discourse" A/C !
> 
> No email yet though
> 

Cool!
Here's your first badge, Discourse style! 
Ascii Email Badge: >>*

First email may take a while to get through. I started getting mine after
almost an hour.

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Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 22:58 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote:
> 
> Each Discourse category comes with an email endpoint, let's say you want
> to create a new thread under the Applications category, you can send an
> email to theapplicati...@discourse.gnome.org email and it gets
> automatically posted to Discourse, like you do today with Mailman. In the
> background we can configure an automatic tag, that is whenever the
> Evolution or Evo (or anything you prefer) word is mentioned (similar to
> what happens today with Mailman list name tag on subjects) the "evolution"
> tag is automatically added to your thread, that eases consumption by your
> contributors which have watchers defined for the "evolution" tag.
> 
> I'm more than happy to work with you guys to ease this transition. But
> please keep in mind that nobody is forcing you to use a web forum,
> Discourse (NOT Discord) can also work as a plain mailing list (please see
> Andre's mail [1] around this), so don't be alarmed.

Hi!

I'd like to see this automation in action first, if possible.

Pete Biggs raises a valid point about the "evolution of Evince" though.
Would this be tagged as an Evolution Mail topic then?
How "smart" is this automation?

What needs to be done/okayed/whatever to have you(?) set this up for us to
try out?

Before somebody asks, I'm just a lowly enduser and have no idea about
automatic tagging on web forums and stuff like that. 
I just want to use the information available here in a fast and easy
fashion. :-)

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Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

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On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 12:45 +0100, ja wrote:
> [Du får inte e-post ofta från j...@jaa.org.uk. Läs om varför det här är
> viktigt på https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ]
> 
> On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 11:30 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 12:27 +0100, ja wrote:
> > > [Du får inte e-post ofta från j...@jaa.org.uk. Läs om varför det här är
> > > viktigt på https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ]
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 20:01 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 11:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > > They suggest I use discourse and will (somehow) give me tags to
> > > > > use
> > > > > it. I tried discourse once: It's inscrutable. I have no idea how
> > > > > to
> > > > > use tags.
> > > > 
> > > > Receiving notifications about Evolution related threads in
> > > > Discourse:
> > > >    1. Go to Notifications Tags
> > > >   at
> > > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscourse.gnome.org%2Fmy%2Fpreferences%2Ftagsdata=05%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C325846c7acf3496ef9a308dab359b32c%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C638019495085397385%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=0pY%2BzAQQEvDkjnFYhraowCNVU%2FM%2BLAEI38vAxWzaNiA%3Dreserved=0
> > > >    2. Add "evolution" under "Watched" or "Tracked" (depends on how
> > > >   many notifications you want to get)
> > > > Docs:
> > > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscourse.gnome.org%2Ft%2Ftags-and-watching%2F94data=05%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C325846c7acf3496ef9a308dab359b32c%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C638019495085397385%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=FgJL2bdtQ%2BMBh%2FeXj5NTZENtkq8miBwiSONp45MTmJE%3Dreserved=0
> > > > 
> > > > How to interact with Discourse via email:
> > > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscourse.gnome.org%2Ft%2Finteracting-with-discourse-via-email%2F46data=05%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C325846c7acf3496ef9a308dab359b32c%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C638019495085397385%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=FC0CbHMT1qEQAbV0wmOFRd3y6tCRRM7vzORQQzOzsQQ%3Dreserved=0
> > > > 
> > > > Docs about personal notification settings:
> > > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscourse.gnome.org%2Fmy%2Fpreferences%2Fnotificationsdata=05%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C325846c7acf3496ef9a308dab359b32c%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C638019495085397385%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=XWt%2FboLtEAnv7OF%2B5%2Fu%2FQEAiSWWpaL43WUTqDjfI9lo%3Dreserved=0
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > andre
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm sorry but I must be thick!!!
> > > Failed at first step!
> > > 
> > > Created Gnome account and then went to
> > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscourse.gnome.org%2Fu%2Fjaa%2Fpreferences%2Ftagsdata=05%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C325846c7acf3496ef9a308dab359b32c%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C638019495085397385%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=%2BmhDAaa2KRKJBRavEwypQqD5hzGpfnb4Gu4UtRZOg0w%3Dreserved=0
> > > 
> > > There are only 5 options in the Watched & Tracked menus
> > > gtk, glib, python, vala & rust
> > > 
> > > No mention of evolution
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Go to your account's preferences instead.
> > 
> > Under Notifications on the left side there should be a Tags link.
> > Set evolution under Watched.
> > That's the only place I found evolution.
> > 
> > 
> I only see those 5 items I listed above
> I was using Brave and tried Google Chrome - same 5 items


Using Chrome.
Try starting typing evolution in the Watched field. Evolution should show
up; it did for me.



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Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 12:27 +0100, ja wrote:
> [Du får inte e-post ofta från j...@jaa.org.uk. Läs om varför det här är
> viktigt på https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ]
> 
> On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 20:01 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 11:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > They suggest I use discourse and will (somehow) give me tags to use
> > > it. I tried discourse once: It's inscrutable. I have no idea how to
> > > use tags.
> > 
> > Receiving notifications about Evolution related threads in Discourse:
> >    1. Go to Notifications Tags
> >   at
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscourse.gnome.org%2Fmy%2Fpreferences%2Ftagsdata=05%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C4b7f52128b474638968308dab35741af%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C638019484590263166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=lshC%2FSpVB8hQf0ZcFlDb4XbnfYGLXY8%2FPIbNIuQucJQ%3Dreserved=0
> >    2. Add "evolution" under "Watched" or "Tracked" (depends on how
> >   many notifications you want to get)
> > Docs:
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscourse.gnome.org%2Ft%2Ftags-and-watching%2F94data=05%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C4b7f52128b474638968308dab35741af%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C638019484590263166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=42MMv34ISEKxAaaDgMOuI4fqGbT6StWSVr4D7YVFqDI%3Dreserved=0
> > 
> > How to interact with Discourse via email:
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscourse.gnome.org%2Ft%2Finteracting-with-discourse-via-email%2F46data=05%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C4b7f52128b474638968308dab35741af%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C638019484590263166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=Kj0l%2BKnadvn%2FjyGNg95PNFs%2BPqhjmhB8T0GzK9JWmuA%3Dreserved=0
> > 
> > Docs about personal notification settings:
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscourse.gnome.org%2Fmy%2Fpreferences%2Fnotificationsdata=05%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C4b7f52128b474638968308dab35741af%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C638019484590263166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=Hoe%2F0%2FvMwQUanrgQpFUBhFCW0%2F6PAEK50Gg%2BxQO5muY%3Dreserved=0
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > andre
> > 
> 
> I'm sorry but I must be thick!!!
> Failed at first step!
> 
> Created Gnome account and then went to
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdiscourse.gnome.org%2Fu%2Fjaa%2Fpreferences%2Ftagsdata=05%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C4b7f52128b474638968308dab35741af%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C638019484590263166%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=bLTVr9qTQkgcD%2FT53GWm9Lpz30ekTYVNiuF2hzmisUs%3Dreserved=0
> 
> There are only 5 options in the Watched & Tracked menus
> gtk, glib, python, vala & rust
> 
> No mention of evolution
> 
> 

Go to your account's preferences instead. 

Under Notifications on the left side there should be a Tags link.
Set evolution under Watched.
That's the only place I found evolution.





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Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 12:47 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 11:13 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 09:50 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > > Ah, seems like Discourse closes topics after fourteen days with no
> > > traffic.
> > > Might this be a problem when revisiting the same topic but later?
> > > One can create a new topic of course, and refer to the old one, but
> > > this
> > > seems to be one hoop to many to jump through.
> > > 
> > > FWIW, I prefer a regular mailing list like this. I can save topics I
> > > have a
> > > personal interest in and go also go back with a reply or request more
> > > info
> > > later on.
> > > 
> > 
> > A good point. I've had a little experience with the Rclone topic on
> > Discourse and must say I dislike it intensely, though haven't attempted
> > to use the email interface. However it does have a 14-day timeout,
> > which I think is entirely unsuitable for a list such as this one.
> 
> 
> I went to Discourse and enabled the category thing per Andrés summary mail
> earlier. I'm willing to give it a go for now, despite some initially not
> to
> promising gotcha's.
> 
> I also enabled the mailing list mode ("for the hardcore" users) in the
> preferences. 
> Now I'm waiting for some new topics to emerge and see if they end up in my
> mailer or not.
> 

Speaking of which, found this thread on Discourse. 
Thanks to Pete Biggs, if you're here!

https://discourse.gnome.org/t/a-test-topic-so-that-the-refugees-from-the-evolution-mailing-list-can-try-and-sort-things-out/11701/2


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Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 11:13 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 09:50 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Ah, seems like Discourse closes topics after fourteen days with no
> > traffic.
> > Might this be a problem when revisiting the same topic but later?
> > One can create a new topic of course, and refer to the old one, but
> > this
> > seems to be one hoop to many to jump through.
> > 
> > FWIW, I prefer a regular mailing list like this. I can save topics I
> > have a
> > personal interest in and go also go back with a reply or request more
> > info
> > later on.
> > 
> 
> A good point. I've had a little experience with the Rclone topic on
> Discourse and must say I dislike it intensely, though haven't attempted
> to use the email interface. However it does have a 14-day timeout,
> which I think is entirely unsuitable for a list such as this one.


I went to Discourse and enabled the category thing per Andrés summary mail
earlier. I'm willing to give it a go for now, despite some initially not to
promising gotcha's.

I also enabled the mailing list mode ("for the hardcore" users) in the
preferences. 
Now I'm waiting for some new topics to emerge and see if they end up in my
mailer or not.




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Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 13:09 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote:
> Du får inte e-post ofta från a...@gnome.org. Se varför det här är viktigt.
> Hi,
> 
> As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's Mailman
> platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in
> managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of October
> 2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse
> instance [1]. Neil made sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to
> initiate a new topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach
> out to me directly.
> 
> Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you can
> follow [3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to Discourse.
> The new platform supports several login methods including your GNOME
> Account and other major OpenID providers.
> 
> After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will remain
> alive in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list was used behind
> an alias, please let me know so we can re-do the same setup but on
> Discourse instead.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in damned-lies, the
> deadline to decommission those lists may slip by a week or two depending
> how soon those changes will be made available in DL codebase
> 
> [1] https://discourse.gnome.org
> [2] 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018
> .html
> [3] 
> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/115
> 34/5

Ah, seems like Discourse closes topics after fourteen days with no traffic.
Might this be a problem when revisiting the same topic but later?
One can create a new topic of course, and refer to the old one, but this
seems to be one hoop to many to jump through.

FWIW, I prefer a regular mailing list like this. I can save topics I have a
personal interest in and go also go back with a reply or request more info
later on.


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Re: [Evolution] What do I do now?

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On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 20:01 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 11:38 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > They suggest I use discourse and will (somehow) give me tags to use
> > it. I tried discourse once: It's inscrutable. I have no idea how to
> > use tags.
> 
> Receiving notifications about Evolution related threads in Discourse:
>    1. Go to Notifications Tags

Thanks for summary!
Will see how this goes.

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Re: [Evolution] Chinese characters shown instead of Swedish at the receiver å / ä / ö

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On Fri, 2022-03-11 at 02:44 +0100, Ángel wrote:
> On 2022-03-09 at 06:35 +, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > According to various sources from Google I searched yesterday, some say
> > Office365 does occasionally do some unnecessary conversions that may
> > break
> > the text encoding if a 3rd party mail client is used. Be that as it may,
> > I'll take your advice and run with Unicode UTF-8 for a while and see
> > what
> > the recipients at work have to say.
> > 
> > Will report back in a while with results.
> > Thanks all for now!
> 
> I thought the error happened every time?
> 
> I would send test emails both to your colleagues and someone out of the
> company.
> The email header should be converted into rfc2047 encoded form,* which
> contain the used charset. This is independent of the body charset. The
> email body could be in utf and the subject in iso-8859-1 It could even
> mix several charsets in the same header.
> 
> Of course, if it's not just the subject that needs to contain an å but
> e.g. also one of the recipient names, it may take a bit more to find
> all the missing pieces.
> 
> Plus, Exchange/Office365 sometimes likes to mess with the contents, and
> thus, for extra fun it could be that it is changing your email when
> sending / showing it.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> 
> 
> * There is rfc 6531/6532, but I'm pretty sure Office365 isn't using it.
> 
> 
> PS: regarding having dates and times in a different locale, you may
> wish to set LC_TIME to a different value than the default one for the
> rest of the system.
> 

Not every time, although I can't tell for sure, as only two people told me
about this.

I tried sending emails from my work account to my private email accounts on
Gmail and Yahoo and then opened them on my mobile phone. They looked fine
there, no weirdness at all.

In any case, so far Unicode UTF8 seemed to have done the trick for the two
people above, both said my mails look fine now, both html and plain text.
Thanks Milan, André et al!


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Re: [Evolution] Chinese characters shown instead of Swedish at the receiver

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On Tue, 2022-03-08 at 16:07 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-03-08 at 15:45 +0100, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > I use EWS
> 
>   Hi,
> I see, that's okay. I tried with evolution-ews (and the Office365.com
> server) and I cannot reproduce it here. The message is received
> properly here, with ISO-8859-1 and quoted-printable content transfer
> encoding, just as Evolution sends it to the server and the same as your
> message to the mailing list has set.
> 
> I thought there's some problem on the evolution-ews side, breaking the
> message when passing the message content into the server, but it's not
> the case.
> 
> Change your encoding to the UTF-8 (possibly to workaround the others'
> end bug).
>   Bye,
>   Milan

According to various sources from Google I searched yesterday, some say
Office365 does occasionally do some unnecessary conversions that may break
the text encoding if a 3rd party mail client is used. Be that as it may,
I'll take your advice and run with Unicode UTF-8 for a while and see what
the recipients at work have to say.

Will report back in a while with results.
Thanks all for now!


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Re: [Evolution] Chinese characters shown instead of Swedish at the receiver

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On Tue, 2022-03-08 at 14:59 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-03-08 at 13:30 +0100, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Tested setting Evolution to use html-mail instead.
> > Then everything looks okay on the receiver's side.
> 
>   Hi,
> as Andre said, use UTF-8 or other Unicode character encoding in your
> messages (Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->Character Encoding).
> 
> Your text/plain part uses ISO-8859-1, while the text/html part uses
> UTF-8 character encoding.
> 
> Out of interest, are you sending using SMTP or any other protocol?
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Thanks again, will try that.

My workplace uses Office365, so I use EWS with those Office365 OAuth2-
weirdness settings and custom tenant, app id's and a redirect uri.
I don't see any smtp anywhere in this particular config.

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Re: [Evolution] Chinese characters shown instead of Swedish at the receiver

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On Tue, 2022-03-08 at 14:02 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2022-03-08 at 11:16 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > I use Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 with Kubuntu 20.04.
> > When I send emails to my colleagues they see the Swedish national
> > characters
> > åäö (a with a ring, a with two dots and o with two dots) as Chinese
> > characters.
> > 
> > We use Office365 at our workplace.
> > My Kubuntu-install is set to use (locale) "sv_SE.utf8".
> > Plasma, in system settings, is set to Sweden-English (en_se), as this
> > was
> > the only way to have the DE showing me english text and menus, while
> > I want
> > dates and times to be in the Swedish 24h-format.
> > Evolution itself uses "Western European (ISO-8859-1)".
> 
> You could send in Unicode/UTF-8 instead if other mail clients fail to
> properly render your emails (and character encodings you've chosen).
> 
> Cheers,
> andre

I might've tried that already, but will give it another go to be sure.
Thanks Andre!

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Re: [Evolution] Chinese characters shown instead of Swedish at the receiver

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On Tue, 2022-03-08 at 11:16 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> Hi all,
> This has been a PITA for some time now for me.
> I use Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 with Kubuntu 20.04.When I send emails to
> my colleagues they see the Swedish national charactersåäö (a with a ring,
> a with two dots and o with two dots) as Chinesecharacters.
> We use Office365 at our workplace.My Kubuntu-install is set to use
> (locale) "sv_SE.utf8".Plasma, in system settings, is set to Sweden-English 
> (en_se), as this wasthe only way to have the DE showing me english text
> and menus, while I wantdates and times to be in the Swedish 24h-
> format.Evolution itself uses "Western European (ISO-8859-1)".
> This is sort of a mismash, I know.But is there someway to have mails
> display properly on the other side?Is there something I can do on my side
> to fix this?
> I find setting locales somewhat trying; if it works in one place, it
> won'ton another. In any case I'd appreciate some pointers, tips och
> comments.Thanks.
> 

Tested setting Evolution to use html-mail instead.
Then everything looks okay on the receiver's side.

But html and emails.
I've ideological problems with html email ever since I joined that "say no
to html email"-campaign some twenty plus years ago.
Sadly, maybe it's time to throw in the towel now.


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[Evolution] Chinese characters shown instead of Swedish at the receiver

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

Hi all,

This has been a PITA for some time now for me.

I use Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 with Kubuntu 20.04.
When I send emails to my colleagues they see the Swedish national characters
åäö (a with a ring, a with two dots and o with two dots) as Chinese
characters.

We use Office365 at our workplace.
My Kubuntu-install is set to use (locale) "sv_SE.utf8".
Plasma, in system settings, is set to Sweden-English (en_se), as this was
the only way to have the DE showing me english text and menus, while I want
dates and times to be in the Swedish 24h-format.
Evolution itself uses "Western European (ISO-8859-1)".

This is sort of a mismash, I know.
But is there someway to have mails display properly on the other side?
Is there something I can do on my side to fix this?

I find setting locales somewhat trying; if it works in one place, it won't
on another. 
In any case I'd appreciate some pointers, tips och comments.
Thanks.

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Re: [Evolution] Failed to access Google Contacts - Invalid request URI or header, or unsupported nonstandard parameter:

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On Mon, 2022-01-24 at 09:01 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-01-24 at 07:27 +0100, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Further, according to 
> > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Farchives%2Fevolution-list%2F2021-November%2Fmsg00156.htmldata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C827839a878f041b7783608d9df107052%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637786083958617357%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=F%2BDgW6Jnisi987BZgGWfwgnt11hLp1qZqW6%2BdFyXV4g%3Dreserved=0
> > ,
> > with Evolution data server 3.42, it's suggested the warning shouldn't
> > show anymore, if a workaround is done.
> 
>   Hi,
> well, it's not a workaround, the contacts on the Google site are
> accessed using CardDAV now. It doe snot add that much value as the
> Contacts API, but there is currently no implementation of the People
> API in the libgdata, thus the move to use a different protocol.
> 
> > About those caveats, could you expand a bit on that?Are there
> > gotchas' one should be aware of with flatpaks in general or just with
> > the Evolution Mail flatpaks?
> 
> It's a sandbox, completely independent of the host system, not sharing
> any data with it. It causes some issues due to this isolation, like
> less desktop integration; one other being related to printing using
> WebKitGTK:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.webkit.org%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D202363data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C827839a878f041b7783608d9df107052%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637786083958617357%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=KrWFKIo6Z7BKIH3rO9q4qhaEdxfJunHC6Y4BWkuPTnY%3Dreserved=0
> though this one is not limited to the Flatpak only. There are more
> noticeable differences in compare to the host system version, but
> whether you'll notice them depends on your work flow. Some people may
> not notice it at all. I mean, most things work pretty much the same as
> the host system version, the differences come in play when one wants to
> cooperate with the host system, where something called portals is
> involved. I do not want to name all the known quirks, also because I
> won't recall them. I'd say there are not that many functional
> "problems", it's a reasonable price to get to the latest version, when
> the distribution does not offer it for you (or when testing the latest
> bits without being afraid of the host system data), though whenever the
> distro provides the latest stable version I always suggest to prefer it
> over the Flatpak version.
> 
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Excellent elaboration, thanks!

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Re: [Evolution] Failed to access Google Contacts - Invalid request URI or header, or unsupported nonstandard parameter:

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

On Fri, 2022-01-21 at 11:04 +, Adam Hardy via evolution-list wrote:
> Thanks Pete, that is v. useful. 
> 
> I can see that Ubuntu's latest is shipping Evolution 3.40 so Linux Mint
> can't be far behind that. I'll see if I can stick this one out until the
> next Mint upgrade. It doesn't really hurt yet that I can't use sync my
> contacts with Google. 
> 
> Probably part of the price of letting Google have all my contacts :(
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pete Biggs 
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Failed to access Google Contacts - Invalid
> request URI or header, or unsupported nonstandard parameter:
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:32:22 +
> 
> > Invalid request URI or header, or unsupported nonstandard parameter:
> > Contacts API is being deprecated. Migrate to People API to retain
> > programmatic access to Google Contacts. See
> > https://developers.google.com/people/contacts-api-migration
> > .
> > 
> > I didn't see any messages on here. I'm using 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 from the
> > latest Mint packages update.
> 
> See the thread starting at:
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2021-November/msg00155.html
> 
> 
> > Is Linux Mint just behind the curve on rolling out Evolution upgrades
> 
> Yes.
> 
> More recent versions of Evolution uses CardDav and not the Contacts
> API. It's not perfect, but you don't get the warnings.
> 
> Depending on your distro you might be able to get a more recent version
> by upgrading, but it is likely you will be pointed towards the Flatpak
> version.  Using those versions come with caveats, but my impression is
> that they are improving. (Not that I use them, my distro keeps up to
> date with such things.)
> 
> P.

Ran into this as well.

Using Kubuntu 20.04 currently, which is based on vanilla Ubuntu 20.04.
FWIW, and if I understood it correctly, according to 
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/armhf/evolution-ews, the
Evolution Mail-ews 3.42 package is proposed to be included with the upcoming
Ubuntu 22.04, which in turn suggests the entire Evolution Mail package 3.42
will be included. 

Further, according to 
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2021-November/msg00156.html,
with Evolution data server 3.42, it's suggested the warning shouldn't show
anymore, if a workaround is done.

Did I understand this correctly?


About those caveats, could you expand a bit on that?Are there gotchas' one
should be aware of with flatpaks in general or just with the Evolution Mail
flatpaks?


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Re: [Evolution] activate Spamassassin

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On Mon, 2021-11-22 at 11:34 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-11-22 at 06:56 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > On a sidenote, is either the bogofilter or spamassasin the preferred
> > spamfilter solution for Evolution Mail, or is this a personal
> > preference?
> > 
> > It seems like bogofilter needs less setup, but I might be wrong.
> > Bogofilter seems to filter my gmail and workaccount on Office365 just
> > fine,
> > but seems to be totally lost on my Yahoo Mail-account.
> > 
> > Any thoughts on this?
> 
> Back when I did local spam filtering, I used Bogofilter and it worked
> reasonably well. SpamAssassin is really more geared to mail servers.
> 
> Nowadays I only do server-side filtering as my accounts are all based
> on Gmail or Google Workspace and the filtering is very effective. I
> appreciate that not everyone is going to want to do that but it works
> for me.
> 
> poc

Cool, thanks!From time to time, the bogofilter catches stuff my Office365
account doesn't, on the serverside. Seeing the suspected mail in Evolution
Mail is helpful in making me aware of it, and take care of it online.

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Re: [Evolution] activate Spamassassin

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On Sun, 2021-11-21 at 14:52 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
> On Sun, 2021-11-21 at 14:04 +0100, Lucas Eichhorn via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > What am I missing?
> 
> Hard to say without knowing what you expect. Have you enabled "Checking
> incoming messages for junk" as documented under "Help » Contents » Mail
> Management » Junk and Spam Mail Handling » Junk Mail Settings"?
> 
> > Does it have to be so complicated to get a spam filter going? 
> 
> No.
> 
> Cheers,
> andre
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Hello all!

On a sidenote, is either the bogofilter or spamassasin the preferred
spamfilter solution for Evolution Mail, or is this a personal preference?

It seems like bogofilter needs less setup, but I might be wrong.
Bogofilter seems to filter my gmail and workaccount on Office365 just fine,
but seems to be totally lost on my Yahoo Mail-account.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks.


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail and Office365 MFA

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On Tue, 2021-09-07 at 08:33 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-09-07 at 08:14 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > On my working-from-home-workstation, the tenant and app IDs as well
> > as the redirect url stuck.
> 
>   Hi,
> does any of that require VPN or such, to reach the in-company servers?
> That can be one of the reasons.
> 
> > In fact, all the OAuth2 settings were already entered when I started
> > Evolution this morning. I don't remember having entered them on the
> > home computer though.
> > 
> > Are these settings pulled from Office365 somehow??
> 
> No, not at all. You either entered it some time ago or restored the
> settings from a backup. I cannot think of any other way to get the
> settings there.
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Nah, no backup.
Selective memory loss then, it seems. 
In any case, the thing seems to work.
I'm greatly thankful that, as well as for the help I got from you and the
list members - thank you!

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail and Office365 MFA

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On Mon, 2021-09-06 at 09:26 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-09-06 at 09:15 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > Hmm, that's weird. The previously entered app id and redirect url
> > were not saved when I quit Evolution last friday. Had to reenter
> > the
> > ID:s again and then it worked.
> > 
> > This isn't expected.
> > Anything I can do to make it stick?
> 
>   Hi,
> these things are saved into ~/.config/evolution/sources/. Hard to
> tell
> what could cause overwrite of the settings. Those are surely not
> overwritten to me and other users.
> 
> You can search for the related file in that folder, it contains a
> line:
> 
>Method=Office365
> 
> and lower in the file the "Oauth2=..." values. You can verify,
> when
> you make the changes in the Evolution, that the file is updated and
> contains the right values.
> 
> How to check when the file reverts the changes I do not know. Or
> better
> why it reverts it.
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Thanks for the hint!
Will check that.

FWIW, that whole folder is writable by my account/group.
Should those folders and files be owned or writable by somebody else? 
Most of the files in ~/.config/evolution/sources seem to be 600.That's
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail and Office365 MFA

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On Fri, 2021-09-03 at 12:59 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-09-03 at 07:28 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > On 2021-09-02 14:10, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > > On 2021-09-02 10:18, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2021-09-02 at 09:58 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-
> > > > list
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > For all intents and purposes, currently Evolution is dead for
> > > > > me.
> > > > 
> > > >   Hi,
> > > > did you try the offered IDs from the "Help..." links when
> > > > setting the
> > > > OAuth2 authentication for an EWS account in the Evolution? If
> > > > unsure,
> > > > it's in this section:
> > > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FEWS%2FOAuth2%23Available_application_IDdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7Caecdb2e8f54648b66e0508d96eac7454%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637662509230290422%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=vuLL3%2F0IlIPsCRDtAAbFbnW%2BjxQUdDl9X%2BrlIWKYcUM%3Dreserved=0
> > > 
> > > IIRC I tried them a while ago, but it didn't work for me then.
> > > Can look into it again.
> > 
> > Quite unexpected, but still very thankful, I heard back from the
> > admins
> > with the tenant ID!
> > Time for some testing!
> > 
> 
> I'm tentatively optimistic that I made this thing work again after
> hacking
> around a bit with the tentant and app IDs.
> Will run Evolution as is a few days before I call it. :-)
> 
> Thanks all so far with the tips, hints and what not!
> 
> Feels positively awesome to be able to work in Evo again after a day
> with
> Thunderbird and Outlook on the web!
> 

Hmm, that's weird. The previously entered app id and redirect url were
not saved when I quit Evolution last friday. Had to reenter the ID:s
again and then it worked.

This isn't expected.
Anything I can do to make it stick?


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail and Office365 MFA

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On Fri, 2021-09-03 at 07:28 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> On 2021-09-02 14:10, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > On 2021-09-02 10:18, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2021-09-02 at 09:58 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list
> > > wrote:
> > > > For all intents and purposes, currently Evolution is dead for me.
> > > 
> > >   Hi,
> > > did you try the offered IDs from the "Help..." links when setting the
> > > OAuth2 authentication for an EWS account in the Evolution? If unsure,
> > > it's in this section:
> > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FEWS%2FOAuth2%23Available_application_IDdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7Caecdb2e8f54648b66e0508d96eac7454%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637662509230290422%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=vuLL3%2F0IlIPsCRDtAAbFbnW%2BjxQUdDl9X%2BrlIWKYcUM%3Dreserved=0
> > 
> > IIRC I tried them a while ago, but it didn't work for me then.
> > Can look into it again.
> 
> Quite unexpected, but still very thankful, I heard back from the admins
> with the tenant ID!
> Time for some testing!
> 


I'm tentatively optimistic that I made this thing work again after hacking
around a bit with the tentant and app IDs.
Will run Evolution as is a few days before I call it. :-)

Thanks all so far with the tips, hints and what not!

Feels positively awesome to be able to work in Evo again after a day with
Thunderbird and Outlook on the web!


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail and Office365 MFA

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On 2021-09-02 14:10, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> On 2021-09-02 10:18, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
>> On Thu, 2021-09-02 at 09:58 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
>>> For all intents and purposes, currently Evolution is dead for me.
>>
>>   Hi,
>> did you try the offered IDs from the "Help..." links when setting the
>> OAuth2 authentication for an EWS account in the Evolution? If unsure,
>> it's in this section:
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FEWS%2FOAuth2%23Available_application_IDdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7Cfef0af2a70354c18753008d96e0abcd0%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637661815682674829%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=EWTvykHqErY%2BirFxoTnE%2BFBgGrPvR44GcZkUjLB5iTg%3Dreserved=0
>
> IIRC I tried them a while ago, but it didn't work for me then.
> Can look into it again.

Quite unexpected, but still very thankful, I heard back from the admins
with the tenant ID!
Time for some testing!


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail and Office365 MFA

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On 2021-09-02 10:18, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-09-02 at 09:58 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
>> For all intents and purposes, currently Evolution is dead for me.
>
>   Hi,
> did you try the offered IDs from the "Help..." links when setting the
> OAuth2 authentication for an EWS account in the Evolution? If unsure,
> it's in this section:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FEWS%2FOAuth2%23Available_application_IDdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C503cbba763c0470832a508d96deaeb5f%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637661678566914952%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=jqMxD%2BBo5snDxaJxQMtCKzpivp5XDs9%2FtUzG7kJZUnk%3Dreserved=0

IIRC I tried them a while ago, but it didn't work for me then.
Can look into it again.


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail and Office365 MFA

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On 2021-08-26 11:49, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 09:48 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
>>> I was kinda' wondering if anybody on this list is in the same position
>>> and
>>> would like to hear about your own experiences wrt Evolution and
>>> Office365/MFA.
>>>
>> Evolution works fine with Office365 & MFA.  There's even a Wiki page
>> about it.
>>
>>
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FEWS%2FOAuth2data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C80820f1d84384ae9853408d9686e4394%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637655645654495528%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=DdVEKBZodCVByLbvCKK1TMi8q%2Bh3YXiEtSR2FCodE5Y%3Dreserved=0
>>
>> although this goes into a lot of detail, my experience is that it just
>> works if you configure Evolution to use Office365 OAuth2.  However,
>> this may be dependent on which version of Evolution you use, so if you
>> need help you must include that information.
>>
>
> Cool, thanks!Will take a closer look.

So, the dreaded day has come, and the IT-dept has enforced MFA for our
mail accounts.
Evolution Mail stopped working, more or less as expected.

The guide with tenant and app IDs is unfortunately unusable for me, as
the admins won't supply me with the needed IDs.

For all intents and purposes, currently Evolution is dead for me.
I've spent this morning with setting up Thunderbird and paid for the Owl
addon. IT lets me download the mail.
The calendar works so-so with Lightning and tbsync; I can see my own
personal calendar but not the shared ones I also need. I can possibly
tweak this with Davmail, but it's pretty hazy right now.


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail and Office365 MFA

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On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 09:48 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > I was kinda' wondering if anybody on this list is in the same position
> > and
> > would like to hear about your own experiences wrt Evolution and
> > Office365/MFA.
> > 
> Evolution works fine with Office365 & MFA.  There's even a Wiki page
> about it.
> 
>   
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FEWS%2FOAuth2data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C80820f1d84384ae9853408d9686e4394%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637655645654495528%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=DdVEKBZodCVByLbvCKK1TMi8q%2Bh3YXiEtSR2FCodE5Y%3Dreserved=0
> 
> although this goes into a lot of detail, my experience is that it just
> works if you configure Evolution to use Office365 OAuth2.  However,
> this may be dependent on which version of Evolution you use, so if you
> need help you must include that information.
> 

Cool, thanks!Will take a closer look.

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[Evolution] Evolution Mail and Office365 MFA

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Hey all!

My workplace will in a short while turn on mandatory MFA for all staff
accounts.

Since I work as a server-tech in a linux environment, using Evolution is
rather natural.
I've tried the Outlook Office365 web-version and find it rather limiting,
and not to say slow, as well as generally speaking cumbersome. 
I have tried out Outlook webmail several times over the years, and the
longest I've managed to use it (with an increasing amount of frustration)
was just shy of a month.
Going back to Evolution after those experiences is like coming home and
finally being able to relax in the recliner with your feet up, and a cold
beer in one hand and the tv-remote in the other. :-)

I was kinda' wondering if anybody on this list is in the same position and
would like to hear about your own experiences wrt Evolution and
Office365/MFA.


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Re: [Evolution] Reply with html if original message is html, otherwise use plain text

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On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 10:22 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 07:35 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > I don't have anything about Confirmations in my Composer Preferences.
> > See attached pic.
> 
> You do have. Your attached pic shows a "Confirmations" tab.
> 
> andre

Doh!
The first you get blind on is the eyes... 
Was so intent on finding COnfirmations at the bottom ("last") on the first tab 
I completely missed the actual tab.



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Re: [Evolution] Reply with html if original message is html, otherwise use plain text

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On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 10:22 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 07:35 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > I don't have anything about Confirmations in my Composer Preferences.
> > See attached pic.
> 
> You do have. Your attached pic shows a "Confirmations" tab.
>

Just tried, it now works as expected. Thanks Andre!

I must've checked the "don't ask again"-checkbox at some point in the past
and then forgotten about it.


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Re: [Evolution] Reply with html if original message is html, otherwise use plain text

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On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 08:28 +0200, Volker Wysk wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2021, 06:02 + schrieb Sorin Srbu via evolution-
> list:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I vaguely remember seeing a feature in Evolution Mail where you could
> > enable
> > it to use html in a reply if the original message also used html,
> > otherwise
> > the reply would be sent using plain text.
> > 
> > Did I imagine this, because I can't find that setting in Evolution
> > Mail...
> > 
> > Can someone point me in the right direction?
> 
> When you reply to a HTML mail, you get a message, asking you if you want
> to
> remove (HTML-)formatting. At least in my 3.36.5 evolution version.
> 
> Bye,Volker

That's weird. 
I'm running the same Evolution version (on Kubuntu 20.04), and I don't get
that question.

I don't see why there is a difference on our Evolutions.
Any idea?


Just checked, I also have "Format messages in HTML" unchecked in menu
Edit/Preferences/Composer Preferences, in order to achieve new mails as
plain text by default.

Testing a bit, having the above option checked, keeps the html format when
eg forwarding a html-type mail, but also means any new mail I create are by
default html.

Seems like an either-or feature, unless I miss something here.

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[Evolution] Reply with html if original message is html, otherwise use plain text

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Hello all,

I vaguely remember seeing a feature in Evolution Mail where you could enable
it to use html in a reply if the original message also used html, otherwise
the reply would be sent using plain text.

Did I imagine this, because I can't find that setting in Evolution Mail...

Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks.

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Re: [Evolution] Searching emails with ews-accounts

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On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 17:19 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 17:07 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > > > An alternative would be to refetch everything from the server
> > > > from scratch. I do not know how the local cache could get
> > > > confused, but in case it is, it'll help. The files are stored in
> > > > 
> > > > ~/.cache/evolution/mail//
> > > 
> > > I'm thinking the refetch when moving sent items to another folder
> > > did the trick.
> > > I moved back the sent mails to its original folder and the mails
> > > are now searchable again.
> > > 
> > > If this happens again, is there a way force refresh the local
> > > cache?
> 
>   Hi,
> the only one is from the command line (as quoted above), there is
> nothing in the GUI.
> 
> > Not sure what that is about though; "g_application_run" rings of
> > something related to gnome maybe?
> 
> It's okay, do not get bothered with it. The recent evolution-data-
> server has it fixed. It's unrelated to your search issue.
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Excellent, thanks again!


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Re: [Evolution] Searching emails with ews-accounts

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On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 10:26 +, Steve via evolution-list wrote:
> Shot in the dark but also check in your account settings that you have
> chosen to display unsubscribed folders to make sure all folders are
> returned before the search. This one always catches me out when setting up
> exchange accounts.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On 26 April 2021 at 11:20, Milan Crha via evolution-list <
> evolution-list@gnome.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 10:56 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > > Might there be a problem with those "special" folders Office 365
> > > likes to use, like Sent Items, Junk Mail, Drafts etc?
> > 
> >Hi,
> > no, I do not think so.
> > 
> > I guess you've set a different search type. Apart of the "All Messages"
> > and the "in Current Folder" modifiers you mentioned earlier there's
> > also the search type hidden under the magnifier icon on the left of the
> > search box, the place where you enter the "grace" text. This setting is
> > remembered, thus maybe you changed it to "Subject contains" (or other)
> > in the past, while you want to search for "Recipients contain" or any
> > other search now.
> > 
> > Could you verify that, please?

Thanks Steve!
Looking at the settings I don't have anything called something similar to
that.

You know what the setting is called?


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Re: [Evolution] Searching emails with ews-accounts

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On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 12:15 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 10:56 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Might there be a problem with those "special" folders Office 365
> > likes to use, like Sent Items, Junk Mail, Drafts etc?
> 
>   Hi,
> no, I do not think so.
> 
> I guess you've set a different search type. Apart of the "All Messages"
> and the "in Current Folder" modifiers you mentioned earlier there's
> also the search type hidden under the magnifier icon on the left of the
> search box, the place where you enter the "grace" text. This setting is
> remembered, thus maybe you changed it to "Subject contains" (or other)
> in the past, while you want to search for "Recipients contain" or any
> other search now.
> 
> Could you verify that, please?

Oh! There are settings too, had no idea!
Anyway, "Subject or Addresses contains" is pre-selected there.
I'll try those choices out and see if there's any difference.

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Re: [Evolution] Searching emails with ews-accounts

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On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 10:09 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 08:34 +0200, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > I can see the mail I wanted, but searching for it doesn't show it
> > strangely enough.
> > I am in the folder the mail is in and have "Show: All Messages" and
> > "Current Folder" selected.
> 
>   Hi,
> could you be a bit more specific, please? What exactly are you
> searching for, please? I mean, what the search look like. Is there any
> change in the letters (lower case versus upper case), letter
> modifications (umlauts and such), ...?
> 
> There had been done some search regressions in the 3.36.x series, but I
> see the last fix had been done in time of the 3.36.4 version, which you
> already have.
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Ah,specifics. Here goes:

I clicked on the Sent Items folder and entered "grace" (with no "") in the
search field at the top in Evolution.

The word "grace" was a keyword in the mails I wanted to find and which I
knew should be there.

The result I got back was the message "No message satifies your search
criteria...".

I also tried with "Grace" but got the same result.
No umlauts were used.

I then created a new Sent Items-folder, with a different name, in Evolution
in the same EWS-account, and moved all my sent mails to that folder.
Doing the same search in that folder seems to work.

Might there be a problem with those "special" folders Office 365 likes to
use, like Sent Items, Junk Mail, Drafts etc?

Does this info help anything?Please ask if you need more.


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[Evolution] Searching emails with ews-accounts

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Hi all,

Just ran into a weird problem with a one off search searching my work mail
account.
We have Office 365 at work and I connected Evolution to that account.

I can see the mail I wanted, but searching for it doesn't show it strangely
enough.
I am in the folder the mail is in and have "Show: All Messages" and "Current
Folder" selected.

Researching a bit on the 'net shows that Evolution Mail has previously had
some deficiences when it comes to searching mails. The search bug report I
randomly looked into is from late 201 though. 
Surely things have evolved since then?

If not, what are my options?
Is there any Evo-plug I can install to fix this?
Or third-party solutions maybe?

I don't recall seeing this problem with my Gmail accounts.

I use Evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 and lates Ubuntu LTS.

Thanks for any pointers, tips and tricks.



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Re: [Evolution] Can't authenticate yahoo imap

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On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 12:16 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 10:26 +0100, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Was this OAuth2 issue the reason why Yahoo Mail kept asking for a
> > password since a month or so back, over and over again?
> 
>   Hi,
> basically yes. See this mail:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Farchives%2Fevolution-list%2F2020-November%2Fmsg00181.htmldata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7Cd8219285397347f59b4808d8ea00030a%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637516633067463935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=qCYYl4fPxMK%2FELoQrX6KTVwMFgg4Igc6dxwReS43A8M%3Dreserved=0
> and its attachment.
>   Bye,
>   Milan


Excellent, thanks!


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Re: [Evolution] Can't authenticate yahoo imap

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On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 15:55 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-11-19 at 08:47 +1300, M via evolution-list wrote:
> > Yahoo have switched to Oauth. You need to change that setting in
> > Evolution, or follow the instructions they sent out about using a 1-
> > time password or other options. 
> 
>   Hi,
> just for the record and history, I received an approval from the
> Verizon Media for the mail, CalDAV and CardDAV scopes of their OAuth2,
> thus it can be added to the evolution/-data-server. I opened [1] for
> this. See it for any further updates.
> 
> An interesting thing is that this makes the experience close to the
> Google, adding Calendars, Tasks and Contacts beside the Mail account,
> just by filling @ymail.com address and keeping everything else in its
> defaults.
>   Bye,
>   Milan
> 
> [1] 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.gnome.org%2FGNOME%2Fevolution-data-server%2F-%2Fissues%2F317data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C5c9322f1b07b4694095d08d8e9557d82%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637515900682986157%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=vytVuUjjRP07l4M%2FFX2Yx0zEo87h7SKAjxjJQ5Gxqjg%3Dreserved=0
> 

Hello!

Was this OAuth2 issue the reason why Yahoo Mail kept asking for a password
since a month or so back, over and over again?



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Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

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On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 11:09 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 10:57 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan via evolution-
> list wrote:
> > I'd missed it too. I think the problem is that when new features appear
> > in Evolution we often don't notice them unless there's a specific
> > announcement.
> 
>   Hi,
> that's true. One of the main places for such "announcements" is the
> NEWS file. There is written what had been done for the release. It's
> not advertised loudly in any other way.
> 
> From the funny part of this particular option, it's part of the GUI.
> Guess how many hidden option in GSettings/DConf are, which can fine-
> tune the behavior of the application in many ways. ;)
> 
> With new options, there's usually chosen a sane default, mostly to not
> change the behavior to the current users, unless it's desired to change
> it. The defaults do not work once the user changes the value.
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Whaat? Från the GUI? Where??


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Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

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On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 18:20 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 17:00 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 11:07 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > It looks like something is getting confused by the nested
> > > blockquotes.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > that's true. I do not know what misbehaves here, but I'm able to
> > reproduce it too, when I have unchecked Edit->Preferences->Composer
> > Preferences->Wrap quoted text in replies. As a workaround, check that
> > option and things will work as they should. Or they do for me at
> > least.
> 
> Yes, that fixes it for me as well.  I'm quite surprised I didn't
> already have that set! Is it a new option or have I just missed it?

Nice, thanks!


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Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

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On Tue, 2021-03-09 at 12:09 -0600, Daffy Duck via evolution-list wrote:
> So this seems to be specific to a certain account, but it's an
> important account, within evolution.
> 
> I have tried toggling different options in composer preferences, and
> nothing seems to fix it.  For instance, one email in particular I
> have right now, if I hit reply, it includes the quoted text that the
> sender sent to me, then:
> 
> > On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 3:48 PM, Daffy Duck wrote:
> 
> And nothing below that.  In other words, it includes only the
> sender's response and the fact that I wrote something that they
> responded to, but not what.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2021-03-09 at 07:23 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-03-02 at 08:39 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list
> > wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 17:58 -0600, Daffy Duck wrote:
> > > > Ok, I seem to be having this problem again and this setting
> > > > change
> > > > doesn't fix it.
> > > > 
> > > > I go to an email sent to me on one account, hit reply, and it
> > > > cuts
> > > > off like half of it.
> > > > 
> > > > In this case, it's cutting off the entire quoted portion that
> > > > has a |
> > > > in front of it.
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > first of all, no need to resend the same message twice.
> > > 
> > > The second, you are better with Reply To List (Ctrl+L) here, at
> > > least
> > > in my case.
> > > 
> > > The third, was there anything selected when you've been doing the
> > > reply? It's a feature to include only the selected portion of the
> > > text
> > > in the reply, when any such exists. Otherwise, I've no idea,
> > > unless
> > > I've a test message to try to reproduce it here, but, apart of
> > > the
> > > signature cutting and selection use, I'm not aware of any other
> > > reason
> > > to have the text cut.
> > > Bye,
> > > Milan
> > 
> > I've had the same problem occasionally as Daffy too, with too much
> > cutting.Will have to check if there's a common trait to those mail.
> > 
> > In the meantime, the Reply to list-button seems to fix some list
> > mails, so
> > thanks!
> > 

It would seem only some Outlook mails tend to be cut weird, possibly
only those sent from the installed Outlook client on Windows-PCs.
Mails sent from Office365 online or Macs seem to be cut properply.

Not sure at all about my conclusion though.

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Re: [Evolution] Replies not including all text

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On Tue, 2021-03-02 at 08:39 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 17:58 -0600, Daffy Duck wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, I seem to be having this problem again and this setting change
> > doesn't fix it.
> > 
> > I go to an email sent to me on one account, hit reply, and it cuts
> > off like half of it.
> > 
> > In this case, it's cutting off the entire quoted portion that has a |
> > in front of it.
> 
>   Hi,
> first of all, no need to resend the same message twice.
> 
> The second, you are better with Reply To List (Ctrl+L) here, at least
> in my case.
> 
> The third, was there anything selected when you've been doing the
> reply? It's a feature to include only the selected portion of the text
> in the reply, when any such exists. Otherwise, I've no idea, unless
> I've a test message to try to reproduce it here, but, apart of the
> signature cutting and selection use, I'm not aware of any other reason
> to have the text cut.
>   Bye,
>   Milan

I've had the same problem occasionally as Daffy too, with too much
cutting.Will have to check if there's a common trait to those mail.

In the meantime, the Reply to list-button seems to fix some list mails, so
thanks!

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Re: [Evolution] XFS being remounted at Evo Startup

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On Mon, 2021-01-18 at 04:43 -0600, Greg Oliver via evolution-list wrote:
> I still have the long standing issue of Webkit not utilizing SMP and it 
> taking several seconds to render a reply window on very large HTML email 
> replies.  It has been years, but I still cannot get used to having to wait to 
> start typing a reply with CPU usage sitting @ 100% on a single core until it 
> finishes, but that's a separate topic.

Out of curiousity, how large are the large html-mails you refer too?


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

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On Mon, 2021-01-04 at 13:05 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-01-04 at 12:35 +0100, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Yupp, the application and tenant-IDs etc?
> 
>   Hi,
> right, all those things. The page offers some defaults, you can try
> them (if you are lucky, the Application ID from there will work; if
> not, you can ask the admins to allow it). In fact, the admins do not
> want to "expose" anything, they only need to create (or allow the
> existing) an application as is described on that page and give you the
> Application ID. Everything is described on that page. Creating their
> own application ID gives them full control on the data being used by
> the application, by providing their own Application ID.

I have tried to get that access earlier at a few occasions as well as
answers on what the tenant-ID is, but to no avail. 
From time to time, I get the feeling that "non-standard" mailers like
Evolution Mail gets across as "dangerous" by the presumably Windows-centric
mail admins at the central IT-dep't... :-/

Will try again. Thanks for the confirmation though.


> > I feel OAuth2 is rather cumbersome with Evolution, unfortunately.
> 
> If it's not clear from the Wiki page, the cumbersomeness is caused by
> the Exchange settings, not by the application (Evolution) here. They
> make it rather complicated to setup for the EWS protocol. I just want
> to be fair.

You are right of course. I didn't quite think that through all the way.
Apologies.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

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On Mon, 2021-01-04 at 12:08 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-12-26 at 13:12 +0100, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Shouldn't it have worked for me with MFA then?
> > 
> > Is there any guide or some such I could forward or point to the mail
> > admins to get MFA working with Office365 and MFA?
> 
>   Hi,
> once you choose "OAuth2 (Office365)" Authentication Type in the Mail
> account configuration you see additional values to be filled to make it
> work. That also involves a clickable "Help..." link above those new
> values. When you click it, it opens the following web page in your
> browser:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FEWS%2FOAuth2data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C6ff1ca8f112f4aa4c45908d8b0a1ca40%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637453556215323171%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=iLU8%2FhdCEbiTU8QqQ9UANipwTGh%2BuMd4WMp4otoj6Ks%3Dreserved=0

Yupp, the application and tenant-IDs etc?
Those are something the mail admins won't disclose. 
Supposedly they are secret and also requires me to login to the Azure AD
Manager.

I feel OAuth2 is rather cumbersome with Evolution, unfortunately. It seems
to require high-leveled admin-permissions and special consideration from the
mail admins, something that end-users like me won't get at our university.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

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On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 15:13 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > 
> > > Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
> > > multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
> > > keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
> > > sufficient.
> > 
> > We have recently discovered that initial account configuration needs to use 
> > basic auth mode,
> > once you are done you can switch to MFA. This is not obvious for users.
> > 
> Interesting. So you can't setup an O365 account with MFA turned on in
> Evolution?  Is there a bug filed against that? (Because it is surely a
> bug somewhere along the line.)
> 
> I'm interested in this because my organisation is big and lumbers along
> - trying to get them to do fine-tuning changes such as that for
> individuals is almost impossible. Having some bug reference to throw at
> them will help.

Same here!

@Joakim; you wouldn't have that web page available bookmarked?
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

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On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 15:05 +, Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 14:55 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > 
> > > The IT-dept got back to me just now, and let me know that they've as a
> > > temporary workaround turned of MFA for my mail account - Evolution now 
> > > works
> > > again.
> > > 
> > > The way I think is that since Evolution is the only mail client with 
> > > proper
> > > enterprise capabilities, it'd probably be of interest to many to get it
> > > working with the highest security settings available as seen on Outlook at
> > > Office365.
> > > 
> > > I'm kinda wondering if there's any work being done on getting Evolution to
> > > work with Microsoft's modified variant of OAuth2, as used by Office365
> > > online, as it seems it currently dosn't?
> > > 
> > > What is the list's thoughts on this?
> > > 
> > 
> > Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
> > multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
> > keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
> > sufficient.
> 
> We have recently discovered that initial account configuration needs to use 
> basic auth mode,
> once you are done you can switch to MFA. This is not obvious for users.

Oh!

I've only used Basic or NTLM authentication previously when I was
reconfigured to use MFA and Evolution stopped working for me.

Shouldn't it have worked for me with MFA then?

Is there any guide or some such I could forward or point to the mail admins
to get MFA working with Office365 and MFA?


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

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On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 14:55 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > 
> > The IT-dept got back to me just now, and let me know that they've as a
> > temporary workaround turned of MFA for my mail account - Evolution now works
> > again.
> > 
> > The way I think is that since Evolution is the only mail client with proper
> > enterprise capabilities, it'd probably be of interest to many to get it
> > working with the highest security settings available as seen on Outlook at
> > Office365.
> > 
> > I'm kinda wondering if there's any work being done on getting Evolution to
> > work with Microsoft's modified variant of OAuth2, as used by Office365
> > online, as it seems it currently dosn't?
> > 
> > What is the list's thoughts on this?
> > 
> 
> Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
> multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
> keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
> sufficient.

Really?
I don't even get that far to be able to use the MS Authenticator.



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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

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On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 18:06 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > > > Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
> > > > worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.
> > > > 
> > > > Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
> > > > I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
> > > > query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404
> > > > once.
> > > 
> > > See 
> > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FDebuggingdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C3b0ec39cb7fc409f6ae208d8a5db2f5e%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441708104853949%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=sfIxDReOzyykrz8cCL66fvIBXAdvn2YK%2FAlMXwUOqqo%3Dreserved=0
> > >  how to provide
> > > debug output. For future reference, please include Evo version info.
> > 
> > Evolution is version 3.36.4-0ubuntu1.
> > 
> > Debug output is coming soonish.
> 
> First test using 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.office365.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C3b0ec39cb7fc409f6ae208d8a5db2f5e%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441708104863945%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=i4wxlrsur5Ts7bxUv%2FwHGyq0WzUvG05nUYyKhL5SzWk%3Dreserved=0
>  per various suggestions
> on the web:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcloud.srbu.se%3A444%2Findex.php%2Fs%2FMW4ekdgFwzPBZegdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C3b0ec39cb7fc409f6ae208d8a5db2f5e%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441708104863945%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=JfyEZjgbtQDs4YOnol3FMzuOsOhuas8SGXTNXs6QGjU%3Dreserved=0
> 
> Second attempt using 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.office365.com%2FEWS%2FExchange.asmxdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C3b0ec39cb7fc409f6ae208d8a5db2f5e%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441708104863945%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=m1LJ8LkzbYcYqpkElDhdeYMdfSQBWFRkXXGBHG1zygE%3Dreserved=0
> that until a few days ago:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcloud.srbu.se%3A444%2Findex.php%2Fs%2F6EHEjFtktF5xry6data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C3b0ec39cb7fc409f6ae208d8a5db2f5e%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441708104863945%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=O%2BamQBgSzsYfAK1h5EacP9mDtjB%2BBwKD1FH1%2Bjn3Aio%3Dreserved=0
> 
> Let me know if you can't access them.
> Thanks.


The IT-dept got back to me just now, and let me know that they've as a
temporary workaround turned of MFA for my mail account - Evolution now works
again.

The way I think is that since Evolution is the only mail client with proper
enterprise capabilities, it'd probably be of interest to many to get it
working with the highest security settings available as seen on Outlook at
Office365.

I'm kinda wondering if there's any work being done on getting Evolution to
work with Microsoft's modified variant of OAuth2, as used by Office365
online, as it seems it currently dosn't?

What is the list's thoughts on this?

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

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On 2020-12-21 18:42, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> On 2020-12-21 17:15, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 15:33 +, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
>>> Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
>>> worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.
>>>
>>> Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
>>> I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
>>> query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404
>>> once.
>>
>> See 
>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FDebuggingdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7Ce54f55112d634b6d0fe508d8a5cba03d%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441641273958705%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=jVCpavAgMTp2W5Znx655Vd26f%2FPfViwTD2C2WvrOK2A%3Dreserved=0
>>  how to provide
>> debug output. For future reference, please include Evo version info.
>
>
> Evolution is version 3.36.4-0ubuntu1.
>
> Debug output is coming soonish.

First test using https://outlook.office365.com per various suggestions
on the web:
https://cloud.srbu.se:444/index.php/s/MW4ekdgFwzPBZeg

Second attempt using https://outlook.office365.com/EWS/Exchange.asmx
that until a few days ago:
https://cloud.srbu.se:444/index.php/s/6EHEjFtktF5xry6

Let me know if you can't access them.
Thanks.


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

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On 2020-12-21 17:15, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 15:33 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
>> Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
>> worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.
>>
>> Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
>> I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
>> query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404
>> once.
>
> See 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FDebuggingdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7Ce54f55112d634b6d0fe508d8a5cba03d%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441641273958705%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=jVCpavAgMTp2W5Znx655Vd26f%2FPfViwTD2C2WvrOK2A%3Dreserved=0
>  how to provide
> debug output. For future reference, please include Evo version info.


Evolution is version 3.36.4-0ubuntu1.

Debug output is coming soonish.



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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

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On 2020-12-21 16:59, Peter Franzek wrote:
> Hello Sorin,
>
> I use Evolution with my work's Office365 on Ubuntu 20.4.1 with all of
> the lattest updates. I have verified that it  is still working.
>
> I did have an issue with the serrver certificate on December 18th.
> Evolution complained that the certificate signing authority was
> unknown, but the date on the cert was still good. The error went away
> after accepting the cert temporarily. I suspect that was to do with
> corporate maintenance that occurs weekly around that time more than any
> issue with Evolution.
>
> I am sorry that I can not offer anything else other than our
> installation is still working. I agree with your comments concerning
> calendars and webmail.

Hello Peter!
Wrt the server certs, do you mean corporate maintenance at your company
or are we speaking on the Microsoft side?


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

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On 2020-12-21 17:15, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 15:33 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
>> Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
>> worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.
>>
>> Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
>> I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
>> query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404
>> once.
>
> See 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FDebuggingdata=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7Ce54f55112d634b6d0fe508d8a5cba03d%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441641273958705%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=jVCpavAgMTp2W5Znx655Vd26f%2FPfViwTD2C2WvrOK2A%3Dreserved=0
>  how to provide
> debug output. For future reference, please include Evo version info.

I'll look into that and get back to the list, thanks!

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[Evolution] Evolution Mail stopped working

[Sorin Srbu via evolution-list]

Hello all!

I'm frankly at a loss here.
I've been using Evolution Mail for years, mainly connecting to Exchange
accounts.

Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.

Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404 once.

The central IT-department are curiously quiet when I approach them with
questions if anything has changed wrt Office365.

For now, I'm using Thunderbird, but can't add any shared calenders which
is kind of a serious dealbreaker.
The Office365 web mail solution "works" of course but is just so...
hideously clunky and slow. I'll leave it at that.

Looking through the web, most say that Evolution works just fine with
Office365.
I did run across an eight year old article on Askubuntu that seems
similar to my problem;
https://askubuntu.com/questions/109548/evolution-and-office-365.
None of the suggested solutions there seem to work though for me.

Any chance of a hint or two to try out from you guys?
Thanks.



PS.
I use Kubuntu 20.04.1 BTW. Some cosmetic desktop tweaks have been done
on this particular system, otherwise it's plain vanilla really. DS.



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Re: [Evolution] S/MIME certification from Sectigo (through Comodo)

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On Sun, 2020-12-13 at 21:16 -0500, Peter Franzek via evolution-list wrote:


> To resolve the issue, I had to first import the certificate into MS
> Outlook, then export it from Outlook in a different format, before
> Evolution would accept it. I believe the original certificate file was
> a ".pfx" format, and the exported format was ".pem". 
> 
> No error is produced by Evolution because the failure occurs in an
> included library, and that library is not publishing any details. 
> 
> I hope this helps you find a solution.
> 
> Best regards,
> Peter
> 
> On Sun, 2020-12-13 at 14:06 +, Bryan Everly wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I purchased an individual S/MIME certificate from Comodo (it appears
> > to have been fulfilled by Sectigo) and was able to use it
> > successfully in Outlook on Windows 10.  I'm trying to import it into
> > Evolution and I successfully select it, then am prompted for the
> > password (there is none) and then I get no error but the certificate
> > does not show up on the list on screen.  Does anyone have any ideas?
> > 
> > Thanks.



Hello all!

Maybe this might help too?
No need to go through Outlook I think.

https://knowledge.digicert.com/solution/SO26449.html

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Re: [Evolution] Force emails for certain senders to view as plain text

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On Fri, 2020-10-02 at 08:57 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> 
> > In Contacts, each recipient entry has a checkbox called "Wants to
> > receive
> > HTML mail".
> > Unchecking it I'm guessing would send only plain text mails to that
> > particular user.
> 
>   Hi,
> unfortunately not, there's always sent only one message, not multiple
> message versions depending on respective user preference. The option is
> used to ask what to do when the message is/is-not in expected format.
> 
> Weird, I do not see it being used in the composer code right now,
> though I'm pretty sure it did ask for confirmation in the past.
>   Bye,
>   Milan

Aha, I see. Thanks for the clarification!

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Re: [Evolution] Force emails for certain senders to view as plain text

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On Fri, 2020-10-02 at 07:46 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 20:14 +0200, Douglas Summers via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > is there any way for Evolution to allow me to view an email
> > as plain text, no matter what format it was written in?
> 
>   Hi,
> you cannot do it per sender (as the thread subject says), you can do it
> only globally, in Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->HTML Messages->
> Plain Text Mode.
> 

In Contacts, each recipient entry has a checkbox called "Wants to receive
HTML mail".
Unchecking it I'm guessing would send only plain text mails to that
particular user.

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Re: [Evolution] Options for automatically setting up accounts / preseeding / autoconfig?

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On Wed, 2019-11-27 at 19:04 +, Jason Alavaliant wrote:
> I work in the IT team at a large company which is in the process of moving to 
> office365 and we plan to provide Evolution to our Linux users (who want a 
> desktop mail client).Ideally we'd set things up so that new users on 
> our machines launching Evolution (3.34.1) would automatically have our 
> office365 account settings entered (which a little long winded since we are 
> using oauth).
> 
> I've been reading the evolution docs and the history of this list but I can't 
> find any mention of a way of preseeding account setup in evolution.
> Either by creating local config files or setting up webservices (e.g. I'm 
> looking for options like Thunderbirds autoconfig 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Thunderbird/Autoconfiguration
>  but for evolution).
> 
> Does such a feature exist for evolution?   Or is our only option to set up 
> some sort of wrapper script.  That directly creates the configuration files 
> via shell commands prior to running the real evolution command?
> 
> Thanks
> -Jason

Maybe use ansible?
Shouldn't be too difficult dropping a few config files in the user's 
homefolder, unless the Oauth-thing makes life difficult.


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Re: [Evolution] EWS Office365 Proxied Auth

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On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 08:03 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 05:49 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Was this ever resolved for you Randall?
> 
>   Hi,
> I'm not sure, but maybe this had been covered by
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.gnome.org%2FGNOME%2Fevolution-ews%2Fissues%2F42data=02%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C1a37ce83f6e34d8ca7d708d73d90eded%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637045564990768091sdata=8IuG1SUb5tDknnauEbNpkxKtZKlncqjgM2mvaEKe6Jk%3Dreserved=0
> and
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.gnome.org%2FGNOME%2Fevolution-ews%2Fissues%2F53data=02%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C1a37ce83f6e34d8ca7d708d73d90eded%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637045564990768091sdata=1dyL5Ey7LHawepDb7K7ZoUWkWj7d3iXgWeplR2Yqz8A%3Dreserved=0
> 
> > In my case I had to use the email address as the UID.
> 
> Do you mean you changed it from the user name only to the email in the
> Receiving Options? It can be changed in the settings, to prefill full
> email, instead of user-name-part-of-the-email there, depending which
> will work better/mostly.

Yes and no. The info I got from our Exchange mail admins was to try with
username only, usern...@domain.se or the email address.

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Re: [Evolution] EWS Office365 Proxied Auth

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On Fri, 2019-03-29 at 12:45 -0400, Randall Smith wrote:
> My employer recently switch their Exchange email from internal to
> Office365.  I'm able to configure it using Nine on Android and Hiri on
> Ubuntu, but have been unsuccessful with Evolution.  As Evolution is my
> favorite mail client, I really would like to get this working.  With
> the other mail clients, there is an auto-detect and redirect for
> authentication to a webpage with my employe's logo.  I suspect the
> authentication is proxied to use the internal Microsoft Domain Auth,
> but that's just a guess.  I've followed several tutorials along the
> lines of this one:
> 
> https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=28462
> 
> Any help is appreciated.  I'd really prefer to use Evolution.  The
> Outlook web interface is terrible and Hiri is too bare bones.
> 
> -Randall
> 

Hello list and Randall!

Was this ever resolved for you Randall?

Our uni did the same change as yours did, a while ago.
Had to experiment a bit with which UID-credentials to use, as well as what
URL to connect to.

In my case I had to use the email address as the UID.
The host URL was https://outlook.office365.com/EWS/Exchange.asmx. 
After clicking Fetch URL the correct OAB URL showed up and the mail started
pouring in. It was a moment of extasy. :-)

Until arriving on the above URL, I experimented with portal.office.com and a
slew of other variations until I landed on the correct one.

HTH.



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# Your possibly offensive MOTD, courtesy of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS:

Increased knowledge will help you now.  Have mate's phone bugged.




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