Re: [Evolution] Keeping email on the server

2022-08-20 Thread larry
On Sat, 2022-08-20 at 00:10 +0200, Ángel wrote:
> The way to do it in evolution is almost like that. It's just that it
> is named "Save as mbox…"
> It's available either on File menu or in the contextual menu when
> right-clicking on an email.

Good to know.

> Strictly speaking, an email in mbox format is not exactly the same as
> eml (there is a harmless extra line at the top, and if the mail had
> lines beginning by "From " they would be quoted) but for most
> purposes (including what your ISP wanted) an mbox file would be
> equivalent.
> The emails in your normal Sent folder are what would be needed (Sent
> emails do have less headers, since some of them are added by the mail
> server itself).

Also good to know.

> As for what your ISP does... I guess there is some reason to avoid
> that a customer sends a large number of emails with the same subject
> (that could be an indication that the account is compromised and
> being used to send spam), but their implementation seems somewhat…
> peculiar.

I wouldn't have thought any of my email would have contained any words
in what I would call 'a large number', so perhaps my account is
compromised.

> You might be interested in migrating to a different email account on
> a provider which doesn't impose such restrictions.

That would be a big step. I think, now that I have the information
y'all have supplied (thanks, guys!), I'll leave it alone until I get
another blocked email for 'spam-like' reasons, at which time I will
have the means to deal with it with the ISP.

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Re: [Evolution] Keeping email on the server

2022-08-19 Thread larry
On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 15:41 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 08:00 -0600, larry wrote:
> > Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS
> > MATE 1.24.0
> > Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
> > 
> > Is there any way to configure Evolution to leave outbound emails on
> > the
> > server? 
> > 
> That is entirely a function of the server - and I don't know any that
> don't remove the data once the mail has been successfully sent. 
> 
> If you mean that you want to save a copy of the sent mail, then that
> is
> configured under Edit -> Preferences ->  -> Edit -> Defaults


Some clarification:

I was recently barred from sending email. I could receive emails, but
every email I tried to send generated an error saying that it was
blocked because it contained 'Spam-like' data.

When I contacted my ISP, I was informed that I was on a block list
because I had sent enough (whatever the F that is) emails with certain
words in the subject line. When I tried sending one with "test" as the
subject, I was told that "test" was one of the trigger words, that if
sent often, would put me on the block list.

Since I use the word "test" pretty often, because I help a lot pf
people with programming, 3D printing, and a few other technical
subjects.

So the first thing the ISP did was to send me an email asking for the
email that triggered the blocking. Well, I did not have it. I thought
perhaps I could find it, but I was unsuccessful.

Furthermore, they wanted me to send that email in .eml format, and
included instructions for putting it into .eml format. One option was:

> Email client:
> 1. Highlight the message in your email client.
> 2. Right-click on the message and select "Save As..."
> 3. Choose Mail/Mail Files (*.eml).
> 4. Click Save.

Of course, I not only couldn't find the message, but could not find a
way in Evolution to save it as .eml.

Not only that, but the copy in 'Sent' appears to not have a full set of
headers.

The other option was to use their web interface:

> Webmail:
> 1. Log in to Webmail.
> 2. Go to 'Inbox' or 'Sent'
> 3. Select the message.
> 4. Click the 'floppy disk' icon to save the message.
> 5. Click 'Ok'.

Of course, there would only be a copy in one of those directories if I
used the web interface to send email.

They have restored my ability to send email from Evolution, but not
knowing what their criteria for identifying spam is, I fear that I may
use a word like 'Hello' in the subject line once too often and be
barred again.

I guess it really isn't urgent that I figure out what to do, other than
never emptying my trash, then hoping that I can recover the email that
causes the next blocking, and then hoping that it has a complete set of
headers, and that I can save it in .eml format.

Larry (disgusted in Canada).


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[Evolution] Keeping email on the server

2022-08-19 Thread larry
Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS
MATE 1.24.0
Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1

Is there any way to configure Evolution to leave outbound emails on the
server? 

I have been unsuccessful in finding any info on this.


Larry



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Re: [Evolution] Cannot forward an email.

2022-07-17 Thread larry
On Sun, 2022-07-17 at 08:01 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, 2022-07-16 at 22:38 -0600, larry wrote:
> > I have an email that I need to forward.
> > When I try to forward it, I get the following error.
> > 
> > An error occurred while sending. How do you want to proceed?
> > 
> > The reported error was “DATA command failed: 26H4Wsip116647 This
> > message has been blocked for containing SPAM-like
> > characteristics.”.
> 
> That is a message from your mail server. Not from Evolution.
> 
> > Is there a setting somewhere that will let me send an email that
> > Evolution considered 'Spam-like'?
> 
> It is not Evolution. It is your mail server. Please ask the admins of
> your web server what to do when your web server tries to outsmart.

Ahh! Thanks. Should have known. Apologies.
Larry.

-- 
Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular who its friends are.


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[Evolution] Cannot forward an email.

2022-07-16 Thread larry
I have an email that I need to forward.
When I try to forward it, I get the following error.

An error occurred while sending. How do you want to proceed?

The reported error was “DATA command failed: 26H4Wsip116647 This
message has been blocked for containing SPAM-like characteristics.”.

Buttons:   Continue Editing   Save to OutboxTry Again

Is there a setting somewhere that will let me send an email that
Evolution considered 'Spam-like'?

I don't see aanything like that in Preferences.

Larry


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[Evolution] POP Fails To Retry After "Connection Closed Unexpectedly" errors

2022-02-06 Thread Larry Dighera
Hello Evolution users,

I've been transitioning from forty years of Forte
Agent https://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php as my e-mail client, to
evolution 3.38.3-1 for about a month, and find evolution very full
featured with some nice capabilities.  The learning curve has been a
little steep, with the plethora of settings among evolution, GNOME,
KDE, ...  As a result, I have several new user questions.

SYSTEM: 
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)"
KDE Plasma
evolution 3.38.3-1

MY (first) QUESTION:
The AT/Yahoo POP server (inbound.att.net) very frequently produces
"Connection Closed Unexpectedly" errors.  Agent provides a POP retry
function that continues to attempt to fetch messages when it encounters
this error.  This reconnection function progressively increases the
delay time between connection retries until it succeeds.  Thus, I rely
on this connection retry function to successfully download all the new
e-mail messages.

It appears that evolution simply gives up after a disconnect,
displaying the error it encountered near the top of the window, and
fails to make any further attempts to connect until manually commanded
or the timed-Connect parameter executes.  

Is there a particular evolution setting I'm overlooking to enable
retrying?

ADVthanksANCE

Larry 

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Re: [Evolution] Open links in the background?

2021-12-14 Thread larry
On Mon, 2021-12-13 at 23:28 -0700, Tim Folger via evolution-list wrote:
> When I click a link in an email message I'd like Web (my default
> browser) or Firefox to start loading the link in the background while
> the Evolution window remains in focus on the screen. This is the
> default behavior in Thunderbird, for example. But when I click a link
> in Evolution the desktop focus shifts to the browser instead of
> remaining with Evolution. Is there any way to keep Evolution in focus
> when clicking on links within emails? Thanks in advance for any
> advice.

I'm running Ubuntu MATE 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 on Ubuntu MATE. I run Evolution
and Firefox in separate workspaces. When I click on a link in
Evolution, focus remains on Evolution, and I click on the workspace
that's running Firefox to get to the page.

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Re: [Evolution] Message Filter not working.

2021-11-02 Thread larry
On Tue, 2021-11-02 at 22:57 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:
> See "Help  Contents  Common Mail Questions and Problems  Mail
> filters are not working". Also check if it works if this is the very
> first filter on top of all other filters.

OK, apparently it was because of the 'new' flag not being set.
However, this is extremely confusing, as the emails in question had the
'new' flag set when they arrived in Inbox, yet were not moved.

As well, I could have sworn that when I was testing filters, all I
needed to do was to move an email from the target folder, back to
Inbox, select it either individually or as part of a multiple
selection, click on Apply Filters, and it would move.


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[Evolution] Message Filter not working.

2021-11-02 Thread larry
Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
MATE 1.24.0

I have 17 Message Filters defines, and 16 of them work.
One does not.

I copied the From: email address from an email, and pasted it in.

Conditions are
Incoming.
For account: Any 
Sender contains xxx@yyy (copied from an email)
Then
Move to folder On this computer/inbox/Online Purchases/

Emails coming in from the address specified are not moved.
They are also not moved when I select them in Inbox and Apply Message
Filters. All other filters work as expected, both when arriving and
when selected and "Apply Filters" is clicked.

Tried.
Changing Sender: to Specific header "From:"
Moving the entry in Message filters to the top of the list.
Entering only the part of the address after the "@".

Nothing worked.

Baffled.


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Re: [Evolution] Order of special folders - move them to the top

2021-11-01 Thread larry
On Mon, 2021-11-01 at 10:52 -0400, Matt Connell wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-11-01 at 08:46 -0600, larry wrote:
> > Easy. Just make all your special folder subordinate to Inbox.
> For what it is worth, this won't work with all email service
> providers.
> Some do not support sub-folders of the Inbox.

Ahh... I gather that's a problem only if you use IMAP and keep all your
mail on the server.

In that case, could you modify the scheme to look more like this?

On This Computer
  Inbox
  My Folders
Tech
  3D printing
  Laser
  Arduino
Sports
  Hockey
Schedules
Tournaments
  Football
  Drafts
  Junk
  Outbox
  Sent
  Templates
  Trash

> That being said, I use this with my current provider to do roughly
> the same thing as OP.


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Re: [Evolution] Order of special folders - move them to the top

2021-11-01 Thread larry
On Mon, 2021-11-01 at 13:54 +0100, Dr. Peter Voigt wrote:
> There is one slightly annoying thing: I have a lot of different
> folders and would like to see all those special folders to appear at
> the top of the folder list. Currently, the special folders appear in
> alphabetical order with one exception: "Inbox" luckily appears as
> first folder. In particular I would like "Sent" and "Trash" to appear
> at the top as well. Can this be configured?

Easy. Just make all your special folder subordinate to Inbox.

For example:

On This Computer
  Inbox
Tech
 3D printing
 Laser
 Arduino
  Sports
Hockey
  Schedules
  Tournaments
Football
  Drafts
  Junk
  Outbox
  Sent
  Templates
  Trash


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Re: [Evolution] Email Doubles?

2021-10-27 Thread larry
On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 16:17 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 13:15 -0600, larry wrote:
> > On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 19:06 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > Please everyone, just do Reply-to-List - Ctrl-L - it's the
> > > correct thing to do.
> Is there a way to switch the reply button?
> My button at the top of the email says GROUP REPLY
> but when I hit it, it puts Larry and evolution-list@gnome.org in the
> TO box.

Hmmm... as I mentioned in the email you were likely responding to:

"Now that you mentioned this, I had a look at Preferences and found a
setting for "Group Reply" to send to the list only."

That setting (in version 3.36.5-0ubuntu1) is at:
Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->General

The setting is near the bottom, and is called:

Group Reply goes only to mailing list, if possible




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Re: [Evolution] Email Doubles?

2021-10-27 Thread larry
On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 19:06 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Please everyone, just do Reply-to-List - Ctrl-L - it's the correct
> thing to do.

That's handy. Up until now, I have not been using the "Group Reply"
button because it addresses the reply to the sender and the group.
So I have been just hitting the "Reply" button, which causes a
requester to pop up asking me to choose Privateley, All, or Group;
easier than editing the To: line.

Now that you mentioned this, I had a look at Preferences and found a
setting for "Group Reply" to send to the list only.

Thanks.

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Re: [Evolution] tool bar lost

2021-10-21 Thread larry
On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 17:02 +0200, Volker Wysk wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, dem 21.10.2021 um 16:54 +0200 schrieb Anne et Sepp:
> > how will I be able to find the view button when I don't have a tool
> > bar ?
> However, in ~/.config/evolution/accels I have this line:
> ; (gtk_accel_path "/shell/show-menubar" "")
> (gtk_accel_path "/shell/show-menubar" "m")

In version 3.36.5-0ubuntu1, there are already two "m"
lines.

; (gtk_accel_path "/new-item/mail-message-new"
"m")
; (gtk_accel_path "/mail/mail-message-new"
"m")

And there is also a show-menubar.

; (gtk_accel_path "/shell/show-menubar" "")



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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-19 Thread larry
On Tue, 2021-10-19 at 07:47 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 19:01 -0600, larry wrote:
> > bash: usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup: No such file or
> > directory
> supposing you did copy here, the path is missing leading
> forward slash, aka it should be an absolute path:
>/usr/
> not a relative path

That did it! I have no idea why I did not put the leading '/' there.

This is great! Solves the problem of automated backups, and simplifies
the restore as well!

Thanks, Milan, Patrick, and Pete!

> As had been said, the 'evolution-backup' executable can be stored on
> a different place in your distribution. Search for it in that case.

It was in the expected place, but due to PEBCAK, I did not actually run
it.

I did notice, while testing, one error message saying that something
changed during the backup. I also notice, in the same directory as
evolution-backup, a file called killev. Would that be safe to use, and
would it completely shut down Evolution and all its processes?


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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-18 Thread larry
On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 22:57 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > In that case, I guess I'll back those up too, at least until I can
> > find a way to use the built-in backup utility from a bash script
> > run with cron.

> Milan has already pointed you at the command to use within a script -
> i.e.
>  /usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup --backup /mnt/backup/evo-
> backup-X.tar.gz
> the location of that command may vary with distro.

Tried that. The file (usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup)is there,
but...

$ usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup --backup
/media/larry/Modata/backups/evo-backup-X.tar.gz

bash: usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup: No such file or directory

or 

$ sudo usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup --backup
/media/larry/Modata/backups/evo-backup-X.tar.gz

sudo: usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup: command not found



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Re: [Evolution] export message to mbox and then process with script

2021-10-18 Thread larry
On Tue, 2021-10-19 at 00:52 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> One possibility is to save the message to a specific directory and
> have a cron job scan that directory for mbox files and apply your
> script to them.

Would inotify_add_watch work for automatically kicking of a script?


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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-18 Thread larry
On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 19:27 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > Would the change cause a problem with the restore? Or would it just
> > get the change on the next backup?
> If the files change while things are being backed up, the backup will
> be in an inconsistent state and the restore will possibly fail
> depending on what changed.

Guess I'll need to see if I can detect that from the script.


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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-18 Thread larry
On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 19:26 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > If you still want to use manual backup, then I suppose you know
> > > what to save. Just in case, it's written here:
> > > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html
> > That's an interesting list.
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I need .cache, and I
> > think the various .config directories can be easily regenerated by
> > deleting them all and restarting Evolution.
> Yeah, it'll regenerate them, but they won't relate to the data you've
> backed up.  You will loose things like account configurations and so
> on.

In that case, I guess I'll back those up too, at least until I can find
a way to use the built-in backup utility from a bash script run with
cron.


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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-18 Thread larry
On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 19:20 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > Currently it backs up .local/share/evolution,
> > which gives me a 500 MB file, and takes a little over 6 minutes.
> I'm afraid what you think you need backed up is
> insufficient.  There's an in-app help that details the data locations
> for your version: 

As mentioned, I will be changing what gets backed up.

> Help -> Contents -> Common other Questions -> Data storage locations
> What you are backing up is just the data files, not the configuration
> and settings.

They are, however, easily restored by deleting all Evolution-related
data and following the 'wizard', right?

> > I don't keep every backup. I keep 7 days worth, and on the 7th day,
> > I copy that one to the weekly directory, and the same for the
> > monthly, and keep only 4 monthlies.
> Have you tried restoring your backups to a clean system to make sure
> what you are backing up is useful?

Yes. I had a large number of emails that I converted from Pegasus Mail
to maildir (mbox) format, plus another few weeks of new emails, and
when I had a disk crash, I had to reinstall MATE, re-configured
Evolution when I ran it, then restored from that backup. Worked just
fine.

> >I don't use Calendar, Tasks, or Memos.
> If you don't use them, they won't take up any space in your backups.

I'll check that out. 

> > > I just use my normal nightly system backup. There's no need for a
> > > separate utility for Evolution.
> > I consider my Evolution backup to be one of my normal nightly
> > backups.
> Sure, so do it properly.  Use the utility for backing up Evolution,
> at least then you know you will capture everything you need in a
> restorable state.

Properly, to me, using the built-in backup, would be to not getting a
requester asking me if I want to shut it down, which is not suitable
for automated backup.

If I had a way to, within a bash script, use the built-in utility, I
would consider it.




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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-18 Thread larry
On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 12:24 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-10-15 at 15:37 -0600, larry wrote:
> > Is there any way to take it offline, then back online from a bash
> > script?
> The offline more works only for the Mail part. All the other parts
> are not touched.

Here's a question I forgot to ask.
I have, while testing my backup script, occasionally seen a message
saying that a file changed while tar was backing it up.

In all cases, the backup finished normally, as far as I can tell.

What would the consequence of this be?

Would the change cause a problem with the restore? Or would it just get
the change on the next backup?


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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-18 Thread larry
On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 12:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 12:24 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > I guess you foresee a manual backup, not to use the backup utility
> > provided by the Evolution itself, hidden under the File-
> > > Backup/Restore
> > Evolution settings menu options, right?

> I wouldn't encourage people to use this for regular backups, such as
> nightly cron job, as it copies everything, not just changes. As we've
> discussed before, it's really aimed at moving your account data to a
> new installation.

I prefer that it copies everything, where 'everything' is exactly, and
only, what I think I need backed up.

Currently it backs up .local/share/evolution,
which gives me a 500 MB file, and takes a little over 6 minutes.

I don't keep every backup. I keep 7 days worth, and on the 7th day, I
copy that one to the weekly directory, and the same for the monthly,
and keep only 4 monthlies.

I plan on narrowing it down to
.local/share/evolution/mail and .local/share/evolution/addressbook, as
those are the only things I need for mail. I don't use Calendar, Tasks,
or Memos.

> I just use my normal nightly system backup. There's no need for a
> separate utility for Evolution.

I consider my Evolution backup to be one of my normal nightly backups.

Thanks for the response.

Larry


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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-18 Thread larry
On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 12:24 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-10-15 at 15:37 -0600, larry wrote:
> > I want to back up Evolution mail using a cron job.
> > I want to use tar, but I would prefer that files in the
> > evolution/mail don't change while it's happening.
> I guess you foresee a manual backup, not to use the backup utility
> provided by the Evolution itself, hidden under the File-
> >Backup/Restore Evolution settings menu options, right?

Right.

> > Is there any way to take it offline, then back online from a bash
> > script?
> The offline more works only for the Mail part. All the other parts
> are not touched.

It also appears that --offline and --online are only for starting
Evolution. Just tried 'evolution --offline' and got:

(evolution:247144): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: 09:40:12.295: Your application
did not unregister from D-Bus before destruction. Consider using
g_application_run().

> The `evolution --quit` is there to quit the application, if it's
> running. This doesn't cover the background processes, it's only for
> the Evolution itself. You probably noticed it when checking either
> the man page or the `evolution --help` page.

Right.

> Back to the provided backup/restore utility, even it's not meant to
> be used as a daily backup tool, it's there to make it easier to move
> settings between machines (it also doesn't store the files in the
> ~/.cache/, because those are meant to be local copies of the server
> data, thus can be reloaded on the new machine from the server), then
> it can be used as well.

I don't leave email on the server. I am running POP, not IMAP (if that
matters).

>  The main advantage is that it takes care of all the steps with the
> background processes, if possible (it cannot catch a state when some
> other process starts the background processes while the
> backup/restore is ongoing). See:
>$ /usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup --help
> An example call to backup can be:
>$ /usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-backup --backup
> /mnt/backup/evo-backup-X.tar.gz

OK... but if I am not backing up Evolution with the built-in backup,
that won't happen. Right?

> The extension of the target file can also be .tar.xz, which does
> better compression than the .tar.gz, but it takes longer. The backup
> prints on the console what it does.

I am using tar.gz, and get no console output, presumably because I run
it with cron. Currently, my backup generates a 500MiB or so file, and
takes a little over 6 minutes. That's backing up .local/share/evolution

I will soon be modifying my script to back up only
.local/share/evolution/mail
and
.local/share/evolution/addressbook

> If you still want to use manual backup, then I suppose you know what
> to save. Just in case, it's written here:
> https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html

That's an interesting list.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I need .cache, and I think
the various .config directories can be easily regenerated by deleting
them all and restarting Evolution.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-16 Thread larry
On Sat, 2021-10-16 at 22:39 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > What is speaking against
> > > $ evolution --help | grep shutdown
> > >   --force-shutdown  Forcibly shut down Evolution
> > > ?
> > Apparently, nothing. I was unaware of the option. I am relatively
> > new to Linux, and while I definitely know about thngs like --help
> > and man pages, I did not think to try them, as Evolution comes with
> > its own help file, and I saw nothing in it to indicate forced
> > shutdown as a possibility.
> $ man evolution
> ...
>--force-shutdown
>   Forcibly shut down Evolution and background Evolution-
> Data-Server processes.
> 

Uh.. right.

Hence:
"while I definitely know about things like --help and man pages, I did
not think to try them, as Evolution comes with its own help file, and I
saw nothing in it to indicate forced shutdown as a possibility."


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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-16 Thread larry
On Sat, 2021-10-16 at 09:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 22:19:52 -0600, larry wrote:
> > On Sat, 2021-10-16 at 01:55 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > > You could shut it down. 
> > > Or restart it with "evolution --offline".  
> > Is it safe (or advisable) to shut down Evolution with a kill
> > command?

> What is speaking against
> $ evolution --help | grep shutdown
>   --force-shutdown  Forcibly shut down Evolution
> ?

Apparently, nothing. I was unaware of the option. I am relatively new
to Linux, and while I definitely know about thngs like --help and man
pages, I did not think to try them, as Evolution comes with its own
help file, and I saw nothing in it to indicate forced shutdown as a
possibility.

Thanks for the tip.



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Re: [Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-15 Thread larry
On Sat, 2021-10-16 at 01:55 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-10-15 at 15:37 -0600, larry wrote:
> > I want to back up Evolution mail using a cron job.
> > I want to use tar, but I would prefer that files in the
> > evolution/mail
> > don't change while it's happening.
> > Is there any way to take it offline, then back online from a bash
> > script?
> You could shut it down. 
> Or restart it with "evolution --offline".

Well, the way I see it, the whole point of running a job with cron is
that you don't have to actually do anything in preparation beforehand.
So what I am looking for is a way to safely shut down Evolution from a
bash script. Restarting from the script it is trivial.

So, let me ask you this. Is it safe (or advisable) to shut down
Evolution with a kill command?

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[Evolution] Take Evolution offline from a bash script?

2021-10-15 Thread larry
I want to back up Evolution mail using a cron job.
I want to use tar, but I would prefer that files in the evolution/mail
don't change while it's happening.
Is there any way to take it offline, then back online from a bash
script?


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Re: [Evolution] Trying to set Evolution up after crash recovery

2021-10-01 Thread larry
On Fri, 2021-10-01 at 13:03 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 21:09 -0400, lar...@sasktel.net wrote:
> > Many thanks, Andre, for the message as well as the URL for the list
> > archives.
> > I had been trying to find the archives for a few days now.
> The archives are directly linked from the Evolution list information
> page, which is included in the footer of every message on the list.

Right, but I never thought to look for it under the heading "To change
your list options or unsubscribe, visit ..."


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Re: [Evolution] Send messages as plain text to select recipients

2021-08-27 Thread larry
On Fri, 2021-08-27 at 07:55 -0700, Robert McDonald wrote:
> > I wasn’t aware of that setting, thanks for that! Unfortunately that
> > doesn’t seem to be working. When I added the Evolution list to my
> > contacts, that check box was there but greyed out (unticked). When
> > I replied to this message the editor was in HTML mode.
> > I tried with another personal contact I already had in my list,
> > same issue.
> > Is there another setting that might conflict with this one?
> I don't know.  I am not an Evolution expert.  I'm running Evolution
> 3.40.0-1 under KDE and Ubuntu 21.04 and I don't seem to have trouble
> changing the value of that checkbox (it's not disabled as you are
> reporting).


I have deleted most of this thread, so pardon me if these setting was
mentioned. I don't think they're on a per user basis, though.

---settings

Evolution Preferences>Composer Preferences>
  General:
Format messages in HTML: unchecked.
  Confirmations:
Before composer format changes from HTML to Plain Text

Evolution Preferences>Mail Preferences>
  HTML Messages:
Prompt on sending HTML mail to contacts that do not want them

--- end of settings

Behaviour when replying:

When replying to a plain text message:
  replies with plain text

When replying to an HTML message:
Brings up a requester...
Are you sure you want to change the composer format?
Switching to Plain Text format will cause the text to lose all the HTML
formatting. Do you want to continue?

Choices:
Don't lose formatting
Lose formatting

Hope this helps.





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Re: [Evolution] Searching for a plugin ..

2021-08-10 Thread larry
Plug-in manager??

On Tue, 2021-08-10 at 15:42 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution-
list wrote:
> Evolution:  3.40.4 (flatpak git8bc9e45) 
> Linux:Kernel: 5.4.0-80-generic x86_64 bits: 64 
>   Desktop: MATE 1.22.2
>   Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 
> 
> I was helping my father with his Thunderbird setup and stumbled into
> their  attachment option.. 
> it allow a user defined size of attachment to be thrown to a cloud
> storage service and embeds
> a link in the out going email.
> 
> Is there a similar function available for Evolution?
> 
> And yes, I checked in the plugin manager and didn't see anything
> resembling what I'm looking for.
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> 
> 
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[Evolution] Missing attachments.

2021-07-12 Thread larry
I was looking for some attachments on received email.
I found the emails I was looking for, and the paper-clip icon indicated
an attachment, but the attachment was not actually there. Instead,
there were, for each attachment, a box with info something like this...

"This section of the message has been deleted. It originally
contained the following data:

   Content type: image/jpeg
   Content description:  (None)
   Filename: mess.jpeg"

The emails in question were from 2020-05-03 to 2020-05-18.

My question is whether or not Evolution did something with the
attachments, or if it was more likly to be something I did, either
inadvertently or on purpose.




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Re: [Evolution] Auto Select First Message in List

2021-07-06 Thread larry
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 11:29 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2021-07-05 at 06:47 -0400, Geek wrote:
> > When selecting a folder or starting evolution, the first message in
> > the list is highlighted but not selected. If you try to delete,
> > nothing happens. You must first select (click or tap) on the
> > message to delete it. If autoselected, you should be able to delete
> > the first message without selecting it first.
> I agree that highlighting without selecting is confusing. I often hit
> an arrow key to move to the next message and instead find myself
> moving to the next folder. I find this very counter-intuitive.

On the other hand, highlighting the title of the email that was
selected the last time you were in a folder is, IMO, a good thing.

If the colour of the highlight was different than the 'selected'
highlight, you would know that you were looking at that one previously,
but that it is not selected now.


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Re: [Evolution] *****SPAM***** Re: Evolution filling in invalid address

2021-05-26 Thread larry
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 20:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 20:25 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 11:38 -0600, larry wrote:
> > > I have created an entry in Contacts that should give me a valid
> > > address, but it still gave me the bad one. I closed, then opened
> > > Evolution, and now it gives me a choice, one of which is correct.
> > > 
> > > MY question is: where is the invalid address stored? I would like
> > > to
> > > eliminate it.

> > It should be in "Contacts", too.
> PS:
> Click "Contacts" in the left bottom corner and check everything.

That was it. Looked there before, and never spotted it because it was
sorted under surname.

Thanks Ralf.


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[Evolution] Evolution filling in invalid address

2021-05-21 Thread larry
Evolution 3.36.4

When I start typing an address, Evolution fills in an invalid address,
which looks something like this:

Oleg Lego >

I have created an entry in Contacts that should give me a valid
address, but it still gave me the bad one. I closed, then opened
Evolution, and now it gives me a choice, one of which is correct.

MY question is: where is the invalid address stored? I would like to
eliminate it.

Thanks



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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 'rights' issue

2019-04-11 Thread Larry Craig
So looking at the server level it appears everything was fine. Using
webmail I also didnot get this issue.  The solution was to remove the
account, delete the archived dataand then re-install the software.
On Tue, 2019-04-09 at 09:23 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 14:53 -0400, Larry Craig wrote:
> The reported error was “Error syncing changes: UID STORE
> Insufficientrights”.
>   Hi,it looks like an error returned by the server, claiming that
> you cannotstore things into that folder.  Bye,Milan
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Thanks, 

Larry Craig

====
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[Evolution] Evolution 'rights' issue

2019-04-08 Thread Larry Craig
after upgrading to Mint 19 I am getting the following error on one of
the four email accounts configured in evoloution.

Failed to refresh folder “l...@quicklinc.com : Archive/inbox/2016-06”.
The reported error was “Error syncing changes: UID STORE Insufficient
rights”.

Is this a 'rights issue' on my laptop or at the server level?



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Larry Craig


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[Evolution] (no subject)

2012-10-09 Thread Larry Bush
 0de1c3135e3462ab6690e8134c769ebda288a77c


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[Evolution] Name and e-mail

2009-07-31 Thread LARRY

Hi, everyone. I am writing from Madrid (Spain) and I have just started using 
Ubuntu and Evolution.
When I receive a mail, I see the name of the contact and the mail adress. Can I 
do something in order not to see the adress?

Thanks.



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[Evolution] commands to a running evolution instance

2006-08-08 Thread Larry Hunter
Folks,

Is there a way to communicate with a running instance of evolution?  I'd
like to create a keybinding that foregrounds a running version of
evolution and issues a send/receive command.  Is that possible?  
I'm running gnome 2.14.2.1 and evolution 2.6.2 (on and amd64
architecture if that matters). 

Larry
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Re: [Evolution] evolution problems

2006-06-02 Thread Larry Turan

please take me off your reply list
flattenedchickenmanLaurence M Turan







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sent: The problem is in X-Evolution-PostTo: The "@"  is wrong, see below.   Compare this to  nntp://news.gmane.org./gmane.emacs.auctex.general   which went to the same server some days ago.   2) There is also an error with the integration of evo 2.6.1 into the  bug-buddy, which could not accept a bug report against evolution.   version evolution 2.6.1-3 debian unstable freshly updated today (mai 22  2006).   Bernhard   (this mail is sent using PAN)   Betreff: signatures not verifiable  Von: Bernhard Kleine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Content-Type: text/plain  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  Message-Id: 
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