Re: [Evolution] Contacts/Address book error: Move a contact list from one address book to the other
> As you have the address book saved as a vCard file, I suggest to > remove > all lines beginning with: > >UID: Hi Milan Thanks a lot for the tip and the helpful background information! This did the trick! I found one line in the top part of the the contact list starting with UID and deleted it (in a text editor). The pas-id was with numbers and capital letters, e.g. 4C14E4E00D99, not with the possibly more modern pattern you mentioned (0ab21b1d31f7428e4557b4d5f32a82f9671c97a4). Without the line I could import the contact list vcf-file into the address book B and delete the original contact list in address book A. Interestingly the email address in the contact list vcf-file have different "destination UID"s, e.g. EMAIL;X-EVOLUTION-DEST-CONTACT- UID="pas-id-4F81E4EA000... Maybe the UID of the contact list has changed over the years. Thanks again and have a nice day Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Contacts/Address book error: Move a contact list from one address book to the other
Hello! Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 I have two local address books (under "On This Computer"). I would like to move a contact list from address book A to address book B. But I always get following error: Error adding contact Cannot add contact: Conflicting UIDs found in added contacts Trying to copy the contact list gives the same error. I saved the contact list as vcf-file and tried to import it into the other address book - nothing would happen but I did not get an error, either. A newly created contact list can be easily moved without error. Did I make a mistake in the past? I tried to find a solution online but what was not successful. Can anyone help? Thanks Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts/Address book: Choice to put personal address/numbers first?
> not as that much code wise speaking. How to make it in the UI, in an
> understandable way to the users, I'm not sure.
>
> You can have a workaround, edit:
>
>/usr/share/evolution/webkit/webview.css
>
> (or what place your old Evolution installs that webkit.css file) and
> add to it this line:
>
>div#contact-work {float:right;}
>
> It's not exactly what you want, as it moves the Work part to the far
> right.
Hi Milan
Thanks a lot for the helpful response!
The workaround works and helps to have the Work part not in the focus.
For the meantime I will use it although the layout/view is not really
ideal on my small screen. But it is better than the previous order.
I filed a feature request on Gitlab:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1792
Thanks again for all your work!
Have a great week
Dan
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[Evolution] Contacts/Address book: Choice to put personal address/numbers first?
Good day! Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 As I use Evolution for private matters (not for work), I would prefer to have the Personal address/numbers put first in the contact preview (work contact information second). When I was distracted in the past, I happened to call the wrong phone number :). Would it possible to add an option for this in the preferences? Or is it too much hassle to do it? Thanks Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Shortcut with number from numeric keyboard fails
> On Thu, 2021-12-16 at 23:15 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Can an action have more than one shortcut? That way both version of > > "3" could be mapped. > > Hi, > I do not know, but I'm afraid gtk+ does not support it. The only way > would be to define a "shadow" action, which will be there to define > the > second shortcut, but that would also mean to double the processing or > otherwise glue the two actions together. Thank you everyone for your responses and asking the question (poc) I would have asked, too :)! xev is a cool tool. The Evolution community is awesome. Milan, is it much work to pursuit what you described above? If no, this would be great (do you need a feature request on gitlab?). If yes, I think it is not worth and I may switch the shortcut to KP_3 (thanks Adam!). BTW, I checked the behaviour in Thunderbird and there it works with both versions of "3" but not sure whether this can be helpful for Evolution. Thanks again and a nice weekend to everybody Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Shortcut with number from numeric keyboard fails
Good day! Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 It is only petty issue but maybe somebody has a solution for it as I often encounter it as I usually use the numeric keyboard to enter numbers. I edited the ~/.config/evolution/accels file to change Evolution's Keyboard Shortcuts as following: (gtk_accel_path "/mail-labels/mail-label-2" "3") The shortcut works fine with the number key "3" from the main keyboard but nothing happens if I press the number key "3" on the numeric keyboard. Is there a way to have both number keys "3" react as shortcuts? By the way, I use an external keyboard and I don't have a numeric keypad part on the laptop's keyboard. Thanks Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Open links in the background? (Firefox)
> When I click a link in an email message I'd like Web (my default > browser) or Firefox to start loading the link in the background while > the Evolution window remains in focus on the screen. For Firefox, this helped me: Open config window in Firefox: about:config there find: browser.tabs.loadDivertedInBackground and change to True No idea about a "Web" solution. Cheers Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Move several tasks from one task list to another
> I agree, it can be improved. Do not use GitHub, the right place is: > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/ Hi Milan Oops, I meant Gitlab :) > I won't do "Paste to this task list", more intuitive would be > "copy/move the selection to the task list". And, of course, similarly > for the Memos view. Here is the newly opened feature request: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1693 Thanks for all your work! Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Move several tasks from one task list to another
> I see there's no "Copy/Move to Task List" in the menus (the Calendar > has such options in the context menu). The only way I found is to > select the tasks, then Edit->Copy, then select the destination task > list on the left and then Edit->Paste. > > I used Cut, not Copy, here (by Ctrl+X, Ctrl+V), but it's safer to > copy > then delete, in case anything goes wrong. Hi Milan Thank you for the helpful answer. With Cut and Paste it works somehow. But it is not intuitive. And there may be an (old?) bug: When I used Edit->Cut (or Copy), then select the (different) destination task list on the left (panel) and then wanted to do Edit->Paste, the Paste was greyed out. I could Paste (context menu) within the tasklist, though ... It would be more intuitive if there could be a context menu entry "Paste task into this task list" when clicking on a task list. And as you mentioned like in the Calendar: "Copy/Move to Task List" in the (context) menus. Maybe this could be improved if there is time and if it is not much work. Would you like me to create some reports on github? Or is it not important enough? Cheers Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Move several tasks from one task list to another
Evolution 3.36.5-0ubuntu1 on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Dear all Is there a way to move several tasks from one task list to the another task list at once? I can drag&drop one task but if I select several tasks it only transfers the last selected task. Maybe this only happens in this older Evolution version. Thanks for your help in advance Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to add a Send later button
> There is also a mechanism to send mail through the Outbox folder - > you > can select that it doesn't get sent immediately, it can be held for 5 > mins or indefinitely. You can view the outgoing mail, but not edit > it. > You can send it on its way using the Send/Receive button/drop down. > But > this is non-selective and applies to all mail which may not be what > you > want. I like the mechanism Pete mentioned. Sometimes I realise a few seconds or minutes later I need to change something before the email is sent off. And in general you can check the emails before there are sent. You can enable it here: "Edit > Preferences > Composer preferences > General > Default Behavior > Send messages through Outbox folder" and set the dropdown to "Send after 5 minutes". There is also a pending feature request: Schedule sending an email (#411): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/411 Pierre, if you have the skills top help many would be happy! Have a good Sunday, Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] HTML Rendering - Dark Theme not working - Advanced Options
> > I still have an idea to add something like "Advanced
> > Options" into respective sections, not only for the mail account
> > Properties, but also to the Preferences.
>
> I think an Advanced section would be useful, with suitable caveats
> ("may change without warning, depends on version, your mileage may
> vary ...").
Great idea, Milan! I agree with poc and Marcelo that an Advanced
Options would be great (similar to Firefox' about:config).
I did not know about this setting, either:
$ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail preview-unset-html-colors true
I have used since this week - without issues so far, too.
Thanks a lot, Dan
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution discussion (Ubuntu) - Search results
I am happy to see the lively conversation. And sorry if I touched a sensitive topic and triggered some not so empathetic answers . Yes, the Contents link from Evolution Help is great and exemplary. I agree with Ralf that a lot of other apps don't provide this helpful support. With my questions I just tried to think how to make it easier for non- IT guys and the people Ralf mentioned to find help. Personally I don't have a problem to find the help I need (otherwise I would not be subscribed to the list ;) ) and I have used Evolution for more than a decade. I am still a happy user and still try to promote it as I like it. That is why I am trying to find out why the question regarding the mentioned problem did not find its way to this mailing list but was rather sitting idle in a general forum for a year. For IT professional there a lot of things that seem to be logic but different professionals don't have the same knowledge and have different approaches & ways to find help because they might be ignorant or had different experiences (like Ralf mentioned). And I understand it is sometimes difficult to be patient when you get the same query over and over again and you have a great Help page. I was just wondering about the search results and the missing result about the Evolution mailing list. But you pointed out the difficulty about that and I agree with what was written regarding that (Pete & André). Therefore I hope more people will just simply find the most logic and helpful way: Evolution -> Help -> Contents -> Tracking down Problems: "How to get hel p" Cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: Adam Tauno Williams Reply-To: awill...@whitemice.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution discussion (Ubuntu) - Search results Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 10:00:36 -0500 Mailer: Evolution 3.34.4 On Wed, 2020-12-16 at 14:15 +0100, theapple...@differentmail.com wrote: > The Help GNOME article is helpful but has not solved the problem and > toget from there to the Evolution mailing list is too long or that > obvious for most people, especially newbies. > Is there a way to bring the Evolution mailing into the search > results? Evolution -> Help -> Contents -> Tracking down Problems: "How to get help" I do not mean to be dismissive, but I've been in IT for 30 years. You|We|Us can't make it any easier than that. The habit of starting at a search engine is a terrible one; those users will waste their time plunging rabbit holes. :( RTFM is in the long run, truly, the best and kindest thing you can say to a user. > Even when it is not clicked on much as it is a mailing list ... > I hope even newbies will be able to find this great and helpful > mailing list. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution discussion (Ubuntu) - Search results
> I understand in this particular case. But in general, like the > vertical > view issue I helped with yesterday, the issue was posted in an Ubuntu > forum a year ago and it feels like because there was no answer, it > must > be a problem with Evolution, yet it was solved here immediately. I think you raise a good point. Probably some don't know how to find the specific help and some are not sure what could be the problem & therefore ask in a general forum of their OS. Another issue could be that the evolution list does not show up in the top 30 of the search results. I searched for "Evolution vertical view" in Startpage and DuckDuckGo and the most helpful link would not be shown in the first 30 results (and probably more): https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2020-December/msg00048.html But others like were shown: https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-vertical-view.html.en https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/as8g77/evolution_mail_two_rows_in_vertical_view/ https://askubuntu.com/questions/1197409/evolution-vertical-view The Help GNOME article is helpful but has not solved the problem and to get from there to the Evolution mailing list is too long or that obvious for most people, especially newbies. Is there a way to bring the Evolution mailing into the search results? Even when it is not clicked on much as it is a mailing list ... I hope even newbies will be able to find this great and helpful mailing list. Cheers Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution discussion (Ubuntu Community)
> Out of interest (and it's not meant in a derogatory way), but do > > people > > really think that posting things in an OS specific forum, like > Ubuntu > > Discourse or Ask Fedora, magically gets back to developers or will > > elicit answers from communities such as this? > > No, I suspect they are having a 'casual' conversation. Who's to say > they are even interested in a response? My kinda l-o-n-g experience > with this is that they probably are not. I agree with Adam. As far as I can tell it is a conversation about the pro and cons of Evolution & Thunderbird. The user stating the Evolution issues uses Thunderbird and that is why he does not post it on a Evolution specific site. I mentioned the thread as there are other Ubuntu users on this list and they might be interested in the discussion and want to comment. If not, no problem ;). Have a bright day Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution discussion (Ubuntu Community)
> Anyone is welcome to file feature requests and bug reports by > following > https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/BugReportingGuidelines I agree with you and it was suggested to the user in a later post: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/evolution-again-as-default-email-app-client/15457/82 > (People are also very free to leave their suggestions for some piece > of > software on a blackboard in the supermarket or pin them on a tree in > the park, but that usually makes it less likely that their > suggestions > will be seen by people who actually work on that piece of software. > :) You never know :) Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution discussion (Ubuntu Community)
Hello Maybe some of you are interested to look at the discussion regarding the topic "Evolution again as default email app/client" on Ubuntu, see Ubuntu Community Hub: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/evolution-again-as-default-email-app-client/15457/ One user also posted some personal suggestions for improvements of Evolution: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/evolution-again-as-default-email-app-client/15457/71 I also hope Evolution will be again the default email app in future releases of Ubuntu. Cheers Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution changes file names of attachments (underscores instead of spaces)
> > The current set is: " /'\"`&();|<>$%{}!#" (with backslash,
> > colon, question mark and the star added for Windows).
>
> Personally I'd like to at least have an option to include space in
> the
> set as I prefer not to have spaces in my filenames and it is quite
> useful to have filenames that are being imported to my system
> automatically cleaned.
>
> Even more ideal would be to make the entire set configurable with a
> corresponding replacement set - not everything should be replaced
> with
> an underscore, you might want some chars simply stripped out (eg
> single
> quote and double quote)
> The current set is: " /'\"`&();|<>$%{}!#" (with backslash,
> colon, question mark and the star added for Windows).
Finally I found time to reply. A ticket is filed (
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1208).
I agree with Roger: it would be great to have an option to choose the
behaviour or have it turned off by default!
Thanks in advance for looking into this!
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution changes file names of attachments (underscores instead of spaces)
> evolution: 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 > ubuntu Version 20.04.1 LTS, Mate 1.24.0, Kernel Linux 5.4.0-51 > generic > x86_64 > > When storing attachments, their names will be changed! > Example: original:>one two three.jpg<, new:>one_two_three.jpg< > > All empty fields will be changed in underlines. > > What can I do? I have the same problem and was about to email to the list but had no time yet. I am eager to know more about this behaviour and whether the replacing of spaces in the file name with underscores (underline, low line, or low dash) can be turned off in some way. 3.36.4-0ubuntu1, Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS (It also happened with previous Evolution versions, though.) Thanks in advance! Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Show "No label" emails but all emails are shown
Hi Andre > If you chose "No labels" but it shows messages with labels, then > there > is no "setting" for something but likely a software bug. Feel free to > report a bug: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/new Thank you for your response and the link. The bug is reported: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1067 Is there a possible workaround? Or could I change something somewhere to make this work again? This feature is crucial for my work flow. I hope to be able to stay on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS for two years but there will be probably no Evolution update for this issue (if there is a fix in a newer version) and therefore I hope I can solve this issue without upgrading Ubuntu (and without flatpak or compiling). Thanks Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Show "No label" emails but all emails are shown
Evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 on Ubuntu 20.04 Dear all Since the upgrade to Ubuntu 20.04 with Evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 I have a small issue. In spite of the chosen "No label" in the "Show dropdown menu" all the emails are shown in the folder list, not only the emails without labels. With previous Evolution/Ubuntu versions I had no problem. Maybe I have missed a new setting. Thanks for your help in advance Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution sandbox?
> no, the 3.36.x (and earlier) version does not use WebKitGTK+ > sandboxing > (neither current development version, for what it worth). > > Evolution itself has its own web extensions (Michael wrote about them > in the article), one for the (message) preview, one for the composer. > Evolution has disabled user-provided JavaScript code (not every > exploit > involves JavaScript, I know) and it controls what is loaded from the > outside (the remote content settings in Evolution). I do not think > it's > any close to real sandboxing, but it also tries to show HTML mails in > slightly restricted environment. Hi Milan Thanks a lot for your helpful and interesting answer! ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution sandbox?
Hello I have a general and non-urgent question from a layperson. I read following article: Sandboxing WebKitGTK Apps – Michael Catanzaro https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2020/03/31/sandboxing-webkitgtk-apps/ Is Evolution also sandboxed to a certain extend (not only the flatpack version)? Thanks Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Items in the trash reappear in the archive folder
> > > > > > I suspect it's an issue of trying to use features for > > > > > > something > > > > > > they > > > > > > weren't intended for. If you need to "Archive" things, > then > > > > > > use > > > > > > the > > > > > > built in archiving mechanism - it can be done manually with > a > > > > > > key > > > > > > combination or an icon on the top bar, or it can be setup > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > automatic. > > > > Thanks again for reminding me of the archive function. And I learnt > > that now it just "moves" the email to a specific folder which can > be > > an > > IMAP folder which will be synced again. > > > https://askubuntu.com/questions/57144/where-is-gmail-archive-option-in-evolution > > > Just be aware that doing this means Subscribing to the All Mail > "folder" in Gmail, which contains *everything* in every "folder" on > the > account (except for Spam and Trash). That could be extremely large > and > Evolution will proceed to index all of it. Currently I don't > subscribe > to All Mail from Evo for that reason, though maybe I'm being over- > cautious. Oops, sorry about the empty email earlier. Not sure what happened! Thank you for the heads up, Patrick! This is indeed something to consider. Not all emails are archived but most (maybe 80%) I delete (move to the Trash). Now and then I weed out the Archive folder as my account storage is limited. Have a great Sunday, Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Items in the trash reappear in the archive folder
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Re: [Evolution] Items in the trash reappear in the archive folder
> > You might like to turn it ["Show Deleted Messages"] on. The action > > of "delete" is classically > > implemented as "mark as deleted" and then purge the marked messages > > later in IMAP; a "move" message action was originally implemented as > > "copy and delete", and that "delete" action left a "mark as deleted" > > message in the original folder. This can all lead to a bit of > > confusion > > if you don't know what's going on. > > > > This was all an IMAP server function, not Evolution. > > > > Recent versions of IMAP servers often now implement a proper "move" > > function which Evo will use if it's there; that doesn't leave a > > deleted > > message in the originating folder. > > > > Turning on "Show Deleted Messages" will allow you to see if there are > > any un-purged deleted messages still present that may be causing > > confusion. Thanks a lot again, Pete, for your help answers. This is a helpful explanation. I turned on "Show Deleted Messages" but fortunately no emails were just "marked as deleted" in the IMAP folders (just in the local folders which is a different story). But I will keep it that way to monitor any ill behaviour. > > > > I suspect it's an issue of trying to use features for something > > > > they > > > > weren't intended for. If you need to "Archive" things, then use > > > > the > > > > built in archiving mechanism - it can be done manually with a key > > > > combination or an icon on the top bar, or it can be setup to be > > > > automatic. Thanks again for reminding me of the archive function. And I learnt that now it just "moves" the email to a specific folder which can be an IMAP folder which will be synced again. https://askubuntu.com/questions/57144/where-is-gmail-archive-option-in-evolution And I found out how to change the shortcut, key combination to archive it as ctrl-alt-a was a bit clumsy to be used often. For the records and other interested people. Just edit ~/.config/evolution/accels, delete the ; in front of a edited line and I used following to archive with simple key "a": (gtk_accel_path "/mail/mail-archive" "a") Thanks again for your help! It was worth to email and to learn new things! Have a great weekend, D. :) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Items in the trash reappear in the archive folder
> > We use Evolution 3.18.5.2 (Ubuntu 16.04) and 3.34.1-2 (Ubuntu > 19.10, > > previously the version 3.32.1-2 in 19.04) on two different > computers, > > both will be updated this year. The email account this problem > > relates > > to is configured in the same way in both Evolution versions on the > > two > > computers. It is set up with IMAP. > > What is the server? i.e. Gmail or some other cloud service? If it is > a > local IMAP server, what software does it use? Thank you very much, Pete, for your response and helpful questions and comments! It is a commercial email provider (web.de), not a local IMAP server. > > For a year or even more we have a mysterious problem. Emails in the > > trash folder that are usually automatically deleted from the email > > server after a month reappear in the Archive folder after they are > > deleted server-side. Maybe it is similar to this bug: > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/580 > > But it does not happen immediately after the email was moved to the > > trash folder but most of the time only a month later when it is > > deleted > > from the server. > > > > In the above mentioned bug report you asked for the work flow. Here > > is > > ours: The emails that are read and not need to be archived are > moved > > (manually) to the Trash folder. The emails that are read/answered > are > > moved to the Archive folder, either by moving it manually or by > > "deleting" it with the Delete key as the Archive folder is set as > the > > "Real Folder for Wastebasket/Trash". I wondered whether this last > > setting might explain the behaviour but we had this settings on all > > computers for many years (with different email providers) and the > > reappearance of the emails only occurred for a year or so. > > I think it's unwise to "overload" an operation and repurpose it for > something else that the developers couldn't anticipate. Deleting > things > has a specific meaning and I wouldn't be surprised if it causes > confusion doing what you are doing. There is an archiving mechanism > in > Evolution these days, why not use that. You may be correct with the overloading. On the other hand we have configured our evolution clients (on two different computers) like this for years and we never had a problem. I will look into the archiving mechanism of Evolution again. The last time I checked it did not fit our purpose as we want to have the "archive" folder synchronised between the computers, it is more a saved emails folder. But this may be possible now, I will look into this. > Do you have "Show deleted messages" turned on? No. > How do you "delete" the mails from your Trash? Is it by any chance > by > deleting them - does that not move them to the Archive folder since > you > have told Evolution that that is your Trash folder? We don't normally delete manually any email in the Trash folder. This is normally automatically done by the web server after 30 days. > I suspect it's an issue of trying to use features for something they > weren't intended for. If you need to "Archive" things, then use the > built in archiving mechanism - it can be done manually with a key > combination or an icon on the top bar, or it can be setup to be > automatic. This could be but why would it happen "suddenly". It worked for many years and only in the past 1-2 years the problem of reappearing emails occurred (consistently unless I set the official TRASH folder as the "Real Folder for Wastebasket/Trash" on one computer. > I'm also surprised you don't have other problems - such as the > "Trash" (i.e. your archive) being purged occasionally. I am glad! If there is no apparent problem or solution, that is fine. Although it is not ideal, I could continue to I set the official TRASH folder as the "Real Folder for Wastebasket/Trash" on one computer (with 3.34.1-2, Ubuntu 19.10). And at the same time I hope this "workaround" will continue to work as my wife just wants to press the "delete" key to move the email to the "saved email folder" (called Archive) and we want to keep these emails in this synchronized folder. Cheers, Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Items in the trash reappear in the archive folder
Hi Evolution team! Thanks a lot for continuously working on and improving this great app, we have been using it for more than a decade now! We use Evolution 3.18.5.2 (Ubuntu 16.04) and 3.34.1-2 (Ubuntu 19.10, previously the version 3.32.1-2 in 19.04) on two different computers, both will be updated this year. The email account this problem relates to is configured in the same way in both Evolution versions on the two computers. It is set up with IMAP. For a year or even more we have a mysterious problem. Emails in the trash folder that are usually automatically deleted from the email server after a month reappear in the Archive folder after they are deleted server-side. Maybe it is similar to this bug: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/580 But it does not happen immediately after the email was moved to the trash folder but most of the time only a month later when it is deleted from the server. In the above mentioned bug report you asked for the work flow. Here is ours: The emails that are read and not need to be archived are moved (manually) to the Trash folder. The emails that are read/answered are moved to the Archive folder, either by moving it manually or by "deleting" it with the Delete key as the Archive folder is set as the "Real Folder for Wastebasket/Trash". I wondered whether this last setting might explain the behaviour but we had this settings on all computers for many years (with different email providers) and the reappearance of the emails only occurred for a year or so. I first hoped it will disappear by itself but it did not. At the moment I have to re-delete all emails and then open the trash folder in Thunderbird and delete it there permanently. If I delete the re-deleted emails manually from the Trash in Evolution they usually reappear again. I can stop this problem if I set the official TRASH folder as the "Real Folder for Wastebasket/Trash" on the computer with 3.34.1-2 (Ubuntu 19.10). But it reappears if I use the Archive folder as the the "Real Folder for Wastebasket/Trash" like on the other computer. Do you need to know something more? Do you have any hint? Could it be an Evolution problem (maybe the old Evolution 3.18.5.2 or a new feature in the newer version)? Or is it rather a email server problem? Thanks in advance Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Query about editing quoted text in Plain Text mode
Hello Milan! Thanks for asking! I usually use the Inline (Outlook style) as reply style to avoid multiple >> quote character when there is a long thread with many succeeding emails. I also prefer plain text emails. To preserve the email thread I copy the text of the previous email and insert it above the headers of the original email with ctrl-shift-V to get the quote character in front of the text and split the text into paragraphs to respond separately as the others did in response to your email and you mentioned: > I do edit quoted text myself, mostly to correct wrapping and to split > the quoted text into parts, under which I write my comments. Thanks again for continuously working on Evolution, much appreciated! Cheers, Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] addressbook-export location /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server/
Hi Milan > I'm afraid not. Different distributions can install files into > different paths. Claiming that everyone has it installed at the same > location would be false and can be confusing, even if majority of the > distributions out there would use the default/expected path. > > If one would think of writing at that page a list of exceptions, like > "in distribution AB, the file is located at CD instead", then I > cannot > imagine to keep such list up to date after every major release of > such > distribution. Aka such things tend to get obsolete easily and > quickly. I understand your reasoning and I also think it would not make sense to mention all the different paths of the different distributions. But maybe you can consider to add the default path to the documentation or wiki. Most distribution follow this (even Ubuntu ;-) ) and theinformation would help most of the users. Thank you for kindly considering this and again for working so hard on Evolution! Have a great day, Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] addressbook-export location /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server/
Hi Andr?? > On Fedora 30 it is under > /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server/addressbook-export > so you may want to search your system or ask Ubuntu packagers. /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server/addressbook-export so you may want to search your system or ask Ubuntu packagers. Thanks for the quick and helpful answer! On Ubuntu 19.04 it is also there, wonderful! Beforehand I tried to find the information in the Evolution Wiki ( https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/ and elsewhere) but was not successful. Would it be make sense to add this information to the Wiki or another info page about Evolution? Have a great day! Daniel ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] addressbook-export location
Hi! Thanks a lot for constantly working on this application, it is a great app! I use 3.32.1-2 (Ubuntu 19.04) and could not find (evolution- )addressbook-export anymore. Is this an Ubuntu problem? E.g. you can not install it anymore. Or was it moved to a different folder (I searched the obvious one in usr/lib without success). In the past (Ubuntu 18.04, 3.21.4) I could find it in: /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server/ It was handy to export the addressbook like this: /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server/addressbook-export -- format=csv --output=/home/USERNAME/mycontacts.csv ( https://askubuntu.com/questions/653555/how-to-export-the-evolution-addressbook-as-csv-file ) Can anybody help me? Thanks, Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to get a “new email” counter/badge to the Evolution app icon on Ubuntu Dock?
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649434 implies that this > is > implemented in gnome-shell in > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649356 . > I don't think Evolution supports/uses it though. > Maybe there is some feature request in the task tracker? > > Currently, Evolution follows GNOME's Notification settings and the > Evolution settings under "Edit > Plugins > Mail Notification". Thank you for the response. I have not found anything in the bug tracker and added this feature request: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/issues/9 Is there a specific task tracker? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to get a “new email” counter/badge to the Evolution app icon on Ubuntu Dock?
Hello! Is there a way to add a "new email" counter/badge to the Evolution app icon on Ubuntu Dock (Ubuntu 18.04)? The Thunderbird icon shows a badge/counter/indicator with the new resp. unread messages. Thanks for your help! Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution crashes when opening a contact (or viewing it in the overview) - solution
Hi again After looking through the Ubuntu Evolution bug reports (https://bugs.la unchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bugs), I realised that it seems to take forever till something happens, if ever something happens. I suspected the installation of the Hardware Enablement Stacks for Ubuntu 16.04.03 to be the culprit for the crashes: sudo apt install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04And I searched the internet for instructions how to uninstall it. Maybe this will help somebody else, that is why I send it to the group: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/02/install-remove-enablement-s tacks-ubuntu-16-04/ 1. I removed it via commands: sudo apt remove xserver-xorg-core-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe- 16.04 linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-video-all-hwe-16.04 You’ll see the command also removes the ubuntu-desktop package. Don’t worry. The following commands will install it back. 2. Then install back the original xserver-xorg via commands: sudo apt install xserver-xorg-core sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-input-all libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 Afterwards I have not yet experienced any crashes in Evolution when looking at contacts. I am very glad! Thanks again Dan___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution crashes when opening a contact (or viewing it in the overview)
Hi Andre Sorry for not sending the reply to the list. I usually do this but just realised that Evolution does not ask me (anymore) whether I want to send it to the list or to the sender only. And I have not paid attention to which address the email is sent. Ok, I will try to trace the bug and file it. Thanks again Dan -Original Message- From: Andre Klapper To: theapple...@differentmail.com Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution crashes when opening a contact (or viewing it in the overview) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:16:39 +0200 Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 (3.24.5-1.fc26) Hi, please always reply to the list. Private messages don't help others. :) On Fri, 2017-08-18 at 18:55 +0800, theapple...@differentmail.com wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback. > > > > > You may want to file a bug in Ubuntu's bugtracker if there is a > > regression recently introduced in Ubuntu's packages. > Ok, I will look into this with Ubuntu. I have searched the internet > but > have not yet found anything so I will file something myself. > > In the meantime, do you have any hint how I could prevent it? No, as only Ubuntu packagers know what they changed in their update... And anyone will need to see a stacktrace with debug symbols first anyway to allow investigating which code triggers the problem. :) andre ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution crashes when opening a contact (or viewing it in the overview)
Hi We still use Evolution 3.18.5.2 (Ubuntu 16.04), thanks a lot for all work on this program! Probably since a recent Ubuntu update a few weeks ago (manually updating to Ubuntu 16.04.03) Evolution has a problem and hopefully you can help me to solve. Maybe it is not an Evolution error per se. When I switch to Contacts and double-click on a contact, Evolution crashes and often the whole Ubuntu session (I have to login into Ubuntu again). Sometimes Evolution crashes even when I only click once on a contact to get the overview of the contact. I get this error in the terminal: $ evolution (evolution:29482): camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS SQL database in sql:/etc/pki/nssdb: NSS error -8126 (evolution:29482): Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'evolution' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'GLXBadDrawable'. (Details: serial 9985 error_code 171 request_code 155 (GLX) minor_code 29) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environment variable to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) Trace/breakpoint trap (core dumped) When I open the same contact with the right-click menu option "Add to Contacts ...", clicking on an email address in an email and then click Edit, there is no crash and I can safely edit the contact. I can also create a new contact, but when I try to edit it from the Contacts, Evolution crashes. I saw similar reports about similar crashes in the archive but all date many years ago and don't correspond to my problem. Thanks for your help in advance, Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Restored html-emails formatting
Hi Milan Thanks for the quick and clarifying answer! Mmh, it is a pity the WebKit editor does not keep both versions. This means I probably have to run the command you mentioned every time I want to use a sent html-email as template for the new email. I usually only write plain text emails but several times a week I write a html email. I normally "edit as a new email" a sent html email with background and font formatting but this only works well with the html mode on. If I "Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->[x] Format messages" before doing that then the threading of the "old" email is kept and the new one is grouped with the "template" although there are not related which in this case is not helpful. For my situation the best would be to have a toggle button for "prompt- on-composer-mode-switch" beside the "Cancel the current mail operation" in the main tool bar. But maybe it would only me using it ;-). Cheers Dan -Original Message- From: Milan Crha To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Restored html-emails formatting Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:46:32 +0200 On Wed, 2016-08-24 at 19:47 -0700, theapple...@differentmail.com wrote: > > > Is this how it should behave or can I get back to > old behaviour of restoring the formatting when switching back to html > in an email? Hi, it's intentional. The difference is that the previous versions used GtkHTML editor, while there's used WebKit editor now. The later doesn't keep both versions, hence the question about losing formatting. You can re-enable the question by running this command: $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail prompt-on-composer-mode- switch true It doesn't have a corresponding checkbox in the Preferences. Alternatively, use Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->[x] Format messages in HTML, before editing the message and uncheck it again afterwards (too much work, from my point of view). With respect of the "Edit as new", I do not know how exactly you use that, but using reply keeps threading intact, which is good for history, which some people care of. You can choose a reply style in the Composer Preferences. Again, I do not know your workflow, thus just mentioning. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Restored html-emails formatting
Hi With satisfaction I use Evolution 3.18.5.2 (Ubuntu 16.04), thanks a lot for all work on this program! I have question: It is helpful to be able to choose whether to turn HTML mode off (causing the text to lose all formatting) and the tick box saying "Don't show this again" to make this permanent. I normally write text-only emails and so I turned off the html mode but now and then I need to write a html email. I usually use a previous email as template and open it as "edit as new email". As I turned off the html mode, it would open as plain text email. In previous Evolution versions most of the formatting was restored when a text-only email was switched back to html (either by the dropdown menu or the "Format" menu) when a html-email was "edited as a new message". But in the version 3.18.5.2 it would not restore e.g. font size and background picture. Is this how it should behave or can I get back to old behaviour of restoring the formatting when switching back to html in an email? Thanks for your help in advance, Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Html or text response question
Hey guys After upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04 and using Evolution 3.18.5.2, the program would ask me upon replying/"edit as new email" to a html-email whether I want to continue with a html or text-email (at least that is what I remember). After answering the questions a few times, I clicked on the option "save preference" (or similar). Since then it does not ask me anymore ;-) but I did not find any option in the preferences or dconf-editor to let me ask again or at least temporarily change to the initial setting of asking each time. Is there an option to change this? And if yes, how? I want to go back to the initial behaviour (permanent or temporary) as I have a small problem: When I "edit as new email" a sent html-email, it would open as plain text email and when I switch from "plain text" to html the background picture of the original email has disappeared (and needs to be added again). I can only work around this when I set "Format messages in HTML" in the Composer Preferences although I usually prefer plain text emails and this was not needed in previous Evolution-versions. Thanks for any help in advance Dan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
