Re: [Evolution] [OT] edit keyboard shortcuts

[Herr Oswald]

Sorry I'm coming back to that so late - I moved house, so computer
issues were not first prio for some days.

> :O I didn't even know evolution supported that. I thought there was 
> no
> way to do that (which barred using the application without a mouse).
> It has the drawback that there's no visual clue of which is the 
> active 
> panel, though. 

Good point. I'll issue a feature request on that. 
> 
> PS: Thomas, you need to enable canchange-accels before pressing your
> desired key when over the menu works.

Where do I have to look for "canchange-accels"? - My guess was dconf,
but I couldnt find something which looks alike.

Wolf
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Re: [Evolution] [OT] edit keyboard shortcuts

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Tue, 2015-09-01 at 12:14 +0200, Herr Oswald wrote:
> Sorry I'm coming back to that so late - I moved house, so computer
> issues were not first prio for some days.
> > :O I didn't even know evolution supported that. I thought there was
> > no way to do that (which barred using the application without a
> > mouse).
> > It has the drawback that there's no visual clue of which is the 
> > active panel, though.
> Good point. I'll issue a feature request on that. 
> > PS: Thomas, you need to enable canchange-accels before pressing
> > your desired key when over the menu works.
> Where do I have to look for "canchange-accels"? - My guess was dconf,
> but I couldnt find something which looks alike.

gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface can-change-accels

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface can-change-accels true

dconf-editor has a search feature which is good for finding keys. 

Changes are best made via gsettings; or that is what I have been told.


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Re: [Evolution] [OT] edit keyboard shortcuts

[Ángel González]

Herr Oswald:
 I'd need to edit keyboard shortcuts - happily I found F6 to jump 
 between the 3 sections of the main window, but F6 is not very handy 
 for me, so I need to modify it. 

Thomas Mittelstaedt:
 
 For that f6 key, the property in question is called cycle-child
 -focus,
 but you may ask on some of the gtk mailing lists:
 https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list.

:O I didn't even know evolution supported that. I thought there was no
way to do that (which barred using the application without a mouse).
It has the drawback that there's no visual clue of which is the active 
panel, though. 
(And I agree F6 placement is not the most suitable key for keyboard
browsing)




PS: Thomas, you need to enable canchange-accels before pressing your
desired key when over the menu works.
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Re: [Evolution] [OT] edit keyboard shortcuts

[Andre Klapper]

On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 10:32 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
  
  I'd need to edit keyboard shortcuts - happily I found F6 to jump 
  between the 3 sections of the main window, but F6 is not very handy 
  for me, so I need to modify it. 
  
 In Gtk parlance they are called 'accelerators' or 'accels' so you may
 have better luck searching on that.

Accels are underlined letters in menu item names, accessed by entering
the underlined letter and pressing the Alt key at the same time.
Every menu item should have an accelerator for accessibility reasons.

Keyboard shortcuts are stuff like Ctrl+R or F12. Only some items have
shortcuts.

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Re: [Evolution] [OT] edit keyboard shortcuts

[Herr Oswald]

I'd need to edit keyboard shortcuts - happily I found F6 to 
jump 
between the 3 sections of the main window, but F6 is not very
handy 
for me, so I need to modify it. 


Thanks for that hints. I already found the accels file, but mine 
doesnot include a F6 entry, so it seems I cannot change the change 
the active section key. Is it hardcoded?

But there should be another way of changing keyboard shortcuts:
Highlight the menu item, then press your desired key, described here:

https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/keyboard-shortcuts-set.html.en

But it doesnt do a thing a my machine (ubuntu 15.04, evo 3.16.0).
Am I too stupid (my guess)? - Or did ubuntu people break it? There is a
very old bug report at ubuntu (
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/151407) about a similar issue.

Well, obviously I'm the only mouse hater around, not many people are 
seriously bothered...

Cheers,
Wolf





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Re: [Evolution] [OT] edit keyboard shortcuts

[Pete Biggs]

On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 11:50 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
 On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 10:32 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
   
   I'd need to edit keyboard shortcuts - happily I found F6 to jump 
   between the 3 sections of the main window, but F6 is not very
   handy 
   for me, so I need to modify it. 
   
  In Gtk parlance they are called 'accelerators' or 'accels' so you
  may
  have better luck searching on that.
 
 Accels are underlined letters in menu item names, accessed by
 entering
 the underlined letter and pressing the Alt key at the same time.
 Every menu item should have an accelerator for accessibility reasons.
 
 Keyboard shortcuts are stuff like Ctrl+R or F12. Only some items have
 shortcuts.

Not my terminology.

According to Gtk things like Ctrl+R are an accelerator - that's what it
calls them.  For example in the file .config/evolution/accels the top
part says:

===
; evolution GtkAccelMap rc-file -*- scheme -*-
; this file is an automated accelerator map dump
;
; (gtk_accel_path Actions/new-item/contact-new PrimaryShiftc)
; (gtk_accel_path Actions/new-item/mail-message-new PrimaryShiftm)
; (gtk_accel_path Actions/inline/show-all )
; (gtk_accel_path Actions/mail/mail-add-sender )
; (gtk_accel_path Actions/switcher/switch-to-mail Primary1)
; (gtk_accel_path Actions/shell/show-sidebar F9)
==

P.
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Re: [Evolution] [OT] edit keyboard shortcuts

[Thomas Mittelstaedt]

Am Dienstag, den 18.08.2015, 20:25 +0200 schrieb Herr Oswald:
 I'd need to edit keyboard shortcuts - happily I found F6 to 
 jump 
 between the 3 sections of the main window, but F6 is not very
 handy 
 for me, so I need to modify it. 
 
 
 Thanks for that hints. I already found the accels file, but mine 
 doesnot include a F6 entry, so it seems I cannot change the change 
 the active section key. Is it hardcoded?
 
 But there should be another way of changing keyboard shortcuts:
 Highlight the menu item, then press your desired key, described here:
 
 https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/keyboard-shortcuts-set.html.en
 
 But it doesnt do a thing a my machine (ubuntu 15.04, evo 3.16.0).
 Am I too stupid (my guess)? - Or did ubuntu people break it? There is a
 very old bug report at ubuntu (
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/151407) about a similar issue.
 
 Well, obviously I'm the only mouse hater around, not many people are 
 seriously bothered...
 
 Cheers,
 Wolf
 
 
 
 
 
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Found the following. This appears to be for gtk2, though:
http://mntnoe.com/2010/02/keybindings-in-gtk-applications/

For gtk3, the following may be of help:

---
http://askubuntu.com/questions/37313/how-do-i-deactivate-f1-and-f10-keybindings-in-gnome-terminal
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1017546#p1017546:

Fixed it for me, don't know if it's a correct solution.
For gtk-2 apps add this in ~/.gtkrc-2.0

binding NoKeyboardNavigation {
unbind shiftF10
}

class * binding NoKeyboardNavigation
For gtk-3 apps like gnome-terminal and nautilus I created a new file:
~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css 

@binding-set NoKeyboardNavigation {
unbind shiftF10
}

* {
gtk-key-bindings: NoKeyboardNavigation
}
[edit]I did have to close _all_ terminal windows before these changes
were in effect.[/edit]

Last edited by twouters (2011-11-16 19:58:02)
---

Hope that helps,



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Re: [Evolution] [OT] edit keyboard shortcuts

[Thomas Mittelstaedt]

Am Mittwoch, den 19.08.2015, 07:05 +0200 schrieb Thomas Mittelstaedt:
 Am Dienstag, den 18.08.2015, 20:25 +0200 schrieb Herr Oswald:
  I'd need to edit keyboard shortcuts - happily I found F6 to 
  jump 
  between the 3 sections of the main window, but F6 is not very
  handy 
  for me, so I need to modify it. 
  
  
  Thanks for that hints. I already found the accels file, but mine 
  doesnot include a F6 entry, so it seems I cannot change the change 
  the active section key. Is it hardcoded?
  
  But there should be another way of changing keyboard shortcuts:
  Highlight the menu item, then press your desired key, described here:
  
  https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/keyboard-shortcuts-set.html.en
  
  But it doesnt do a thing a my machine (ubuntu 15.04, evo 3.16.0).
  Am I too stupid (my guess)? - Or did ubuntu people break it? There is a
  very old bug report at ubuntu (
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/151407) about a similar issue.
  
  Well, obviously I'm the only mouse hater around, not many people are 
  seriously bothered...
  
  Cheers,
  Wolf
  
  
  
  
  
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 Found the following. This appears to be for gtk2, though:
 http://mntnoe.com/2010/02/keybindings-in-gtk-applications/
 
 For gtk3, the following may be of help:
 
 ---
 http://askubuntu.com/questions/37313/how-do-i-deactivate-f1-and-f10-keybindings-in-gnome-terminal
 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1017546#p1017546:
 
 Fixed it for me, don't know if it's a correct solution.
 For gtk-2 apps add this in ~/.gtkrc-2.0
 
 binding NoKeyboardNavigation {
 unbind shiftF10
 }
 
 class * binding NoKeyboardNavigation
 For gtk-3 apps like gnome-terminal and nautilus I created a new file:
 ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css 
 
 @binding-set NoKeyboardNavigation {
   unbind shiftF10
 }
 
 * {
   gtk-key-bindings: NoKeyboardNavigation
 }
 [edit]I did have to close _all_ terminal windows before these changes
 were in effect.[/edit]
 
 Last edited by twouters (2011-11-16 19:58:02)
 ---
 
 Hope that helps,
 
 
 

For that f6 key, the property in question is called cycle-child-focus,
but you may ask on some of the gtk mailing lists:
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list.



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