Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 11:17 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 22:37 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 20:22 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list > > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 15:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a > > > > second > > > > or two every now and then. It manifests it self as being laggy when > > > > typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately. > > > > > > Maybe also see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1221 > > > > > > > That certainly seems to describe the issue. Hopefully it can be > > resolved soon. > > > The last round of updates I installed on Fedora 33 included an update > to webkit2gtk3-2.30.3.-1 - the pausing has now gone away. I presume > that update did it, does that sound likely. > > My desire to throw a keyboard at the monitor has been reduced a couple > of notches ... > I spoke too soon. It went back to pausing every few characters. As suggested in the bug report I stopped using the proprietary Nvidia drivers and reverted to nouveau and that really does seem to have fixed it, we shall see. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 22:37 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 20:22 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 15:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a > > > second > > > or two every now and then. It manifests it self as being laggy when > > > typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately. > > > > Maybe also see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1221 > > > > That certainly seems to describe the issue. Hopefully it can be > resolved soon. > The last round of updates I installed on Fedora 33 included an update to webkit2gtk3-2.30.3.-1 - the pausing has now gone away. I presume that update did it, does that sound likely. My desire to throw a keyboard at the monitor has been reduced a couple of notches ... P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 17:09 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > Err, OK. It just looks odd when I have 5 or 6 processes all taking > nearly 100Gb of virtual memory Hi, you can disable it with: $ GIGACAGE_ENABLED=0 evolution I do not know whether the gigacage has any meaning for Evolution, because Evolution has disabled execution of the "remote" (in a meaning as "received in the email") JavaScript code. Evolution runs its own JavaScript code only. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 20:22 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 15:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a > > second > > or two every now and then. It manifests it self as being laggy when > > typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately. > > Maybe also see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1221 > That certainly seems to describe the issue. Hopefully it can be resolved soon. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 15:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a > second > or two every now and then. It manifests it self as being laggy when > typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately. Maybe also see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1221 Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 16:09 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 09:00 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote: > > On 11/17/20 8:51 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > Does anyone else see this? My system is not overloaded, there's nothing > > > taking lots of CPU or IO. However evolution and various WebKit > > > processes are each taking about 80-100Gb of virtual memory. Is this > > > normal? (Resident memory is within normal ranges.) > > > > Yes I've seen Evolution do that lag thing many times. Whatever goes on > > inside the HTML composer is not well done. > > So it's not me going mad! But this is plain text composing and I've > only noticed it since upgrading to F33 and 3.38.1 > > > > > The virtual memory use is part of WebKit and is called Gigacages. It > > allocates huge zones of memory around compiled Javascript so that even > > if some bug allowed direct memory accesses, it isn't mathematically > > possible for it to reach sensitive data. > > > Err, OK. It just looks odd when I have 5 or 6 processes all taking > nearly 100Gb of virtual memory: > > PID USER PR NIVIRTRESSHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ > COMMAND > > 81695 pete 20 0 99.1g 111556 90300 S 0.3 0.7 0:05.12 > WebKitWebProces > > 77144 pete 20 0 98.0g 45280 38444 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.16 > WebKitNetworkPr > > 81694 pete 20 0 98.0g 44680 37912 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.06 > WebKitNetworkPr > > 77146 pete 20 0 85.4g 126724 95132 S 0.0 0.8 0:31.77 > WebKitWebProces > > 77101 pete 20 0 84.1g 436828 128640 S 6.0 2.7 2:21.81 > evolution Here's a screenshot of my system: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_ryubFSGMiORDiwf2LmNc8MARAsI3HPA/view?usp=sharing poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
> > Using F33 with KDE here. I haven't seen this, but I never compose mail > in HTML so maybe there's a connection. In the past, lagginess has > sometimes been associated with Evo looking up online contact info when > filling in addresses. I'm not one for using HTML either (unless I REALLY have to). It's only in the composer that I'm seeing it. I suspect that WebKit is doing something in the background, and I wish it would stop it. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 09:00 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote: > On 11/17/20 8:51 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Does anyone else see this? My system is not overloaded, there's nothing > > taking lots of CPU or IO. However evolution and various WebKit > > processes are each taking about 80-100Gb of virtual memory. Is this > > normal? (Resident memory is within normal ranges.) > > Yes I've seen Evolution do that lag thing many times. Whatever goes on > inside the HTML composer is not well done. So it's not me going mad! But this is plain text composing and I've only noticed it since upgrading to F33 and 3.38.1 > > The virtual memory use is part of WebKit and is called Gigacages. It > allocates huge zones of memory around compiled Javascript so that even > if some bug allowed direct memory accesses, it isn't mathematically > possible for it to reach sensitive data. > Err, OK. It just looks odd when I have 5 or 6 processes all taking nearly 100Gb of virtual memory: PID USER PR NIVIRTRESSHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 81695 pete 20 0 99.1g 111556 90300 S 0.3 0.7 0:05.12 WebKitWebProces 77144 pete 20 0 98.0g 45280 38444 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.16 WebKitNetworkPr 81694 pete 20 0 98.0g 44680 37912 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.06 WebKitNetworkPr 77146 pete 20 0 85.4g 126724 95132 S 0.0 0.8 0:31.77 WebKitWebProces 77101 pete 20 0 84.1g 436828 128640 S 6.0 2.7 2:21.81 evolution P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 15:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > Hi - > > Just upgraded to Fedora 33 and so have 3.38.1 and this is really a "is > it me or you" type question. > > When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a second > or two every now and then. It manifests it self as being laggy when > typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately. Not really a > problem, but I almost always press the delayed key again so I get > double characters when it catches up. It's just annoying. > > Does anyone else see this? My system is not overloaded, there's nothing > taking lots of CPU or IO. However evolution and various WebKit > processes are each taking about 80-100Gb of virtual memory. Is this > normal? (Resident memory is within normal ranges.) Using F33 with KDE here. I haven't seen this, but I never compose mail in HTML so maybe there's a connection. In the past, lagginess has sometimes been associated with Evo looking up online contact info when filling in addresses. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
On 11/17/20 8:51 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: Does anyone else see this? My system is not overloaded, there's nothing taking lots of CPU or IO. However evolution and various WebKit processes are each taking about 80-100Gb of virtual memory. Is this normal? (Resident memory is within normal ranges.) Yes I've seen Evolution do that lag thing many times. Whatever goes on inside the HTML composer is not well done. The virtual memory use is part of WebKit and is called Gigacages. It allocates huge zones of memory around compiled Javascript so that even if some bug allowed direct memory accesses, it isn't mathematically possible for it to reach sensitive data. -- Knowledge is Power -- Power Corrupts Study Hard -- Be Evil ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evo 3.38.1 composer pauses
Hi - Just upgraded to Fedora 33 and so have 3.38.1 and this is really a "is it me or you" type question. When composing an email the composer will stop responding for a second or two every now and then. It manifests it self as being laggy when typing, so a character doesn't appear immediately. Not really a problem, but I almost always press the delayed key again so I get double characters when it catches up. It's just annoying. Does anyone else see this? My system is not overloaded, there's nothing taking lots of CPU or IO. However evolution and various WebKit processes are each taking about 80-100Gb of virtual memory. Is this normal? (Resident memory is within normal ranges.) P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
