Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't quit cleanly other issues

2013-02-24 Thread RSV-RR
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 20:00:10 +0100
Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Sat, 2013-02-23 at 13:49 -0500, RSV-RR wrote:
  running Evolution 3.6.2, and for some reason I am having the following
  issues:
  
  -   Application doesn't quit cleanly.  It hangs and has to be
killed.
 
 Always? And could you try 3.6.3, the latest bugfix release? (Might
 require asking your distribution to ship it.)
 If it hangs, running in gdb might be interesting. Also see
 https://live.gnome.org/GettingTraces/Details#Obtaining_a_stack_trace_using_GDB
 
  -   Messages that I try to delete get a line through them but
are not moved out of the inbox message list. This is probably a
configuration issue.  Shouldn't messages be put into the Delete
folder?
 
 Please see
 http://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.6/mail-delete-and-undelete.html
 
  -   Question...how do I update passwords to message
servers.  Should I be prompted or can I store that in the
configuration.
 
 I'm afraid I don't understand the question. If you have stored your
 password in Evolution so you don't have to reenter it all the time in
 Evolution, and if you have changed your account password on your mail
 server, then Evolution will prompt you for entering the password, simply
 because Evolution receives a bad password answer from your email
 server.
 
 andre
 -- 
 Andre Klapper  |  ak...@gmx.net
 http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
 

Still having trouble pulling email from the POP server account.  Not
sure how to turn on logging, or if it's continuous, where it resides.

Also, Evo hangs whenever I try to exit. guess that would be captured in
the log, too.

Thx

RSV
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't quit cleanly other issues

2013-02-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2013-02-23 at 13:49 -0500, RSV-RR wrote:
 hello group -
 
 running Evolution 3.6.2, and for some reason I am having the following
 issues:
 
 - Application doesn't quit cleanly.  It hangs and has to be
   killed.

Are you sure it hangs? Evo can sometimes take a long time to quit
because it's updating state with a slow server. Unfortunately the wait
can be indefinitely long and with no apparent timeout, something I've
complained about in the past, however it does happen less often than it
used to.

 - Messages that I try to delete get a line through them but
   are not moved out of the inbox message list. This is probably a
   configuration issue.  Shouldn't messages be put into the Delete
   folder?

There is no Delete folder as such (i.e. Trash in Evo is a virtual
folder). Messages stay in the folder they are in and are marked as
deleted. This is what you are seeing. If you don't want to see them,
turn off View-Show Deleted Messages. This model comes from IMAP but is
also used for some other types of account (I forget which ones).

 - Question...how do I update passwords to message
   servers.  Should I be prompted or can I store that in the
   configuration.

Evo stores passwords in the Gnome keyring. AFAIK there is no way to
change a server password from Evo. You do it directly on the server and
when Evo notices the pw has changed it will prompt you for the new one
and store it in the keyring, which is itself protected by its own pw.

If you're using the Gnome desktop it's useful to make the keyring pw the
same as your user login pw, which makes the whole thing quite
transparent since Evo will pick it up automatically. Use seahorse to
manage the keyring.

On KDE it's less transparent but still works. Depending on your setup,
you usually have to enter the keyring password once per login session,
even if it's the same as the login pw.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't quit cleanly other issues

2013-02-23 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2013-02-23 at 13:49 -0500, RSV-RR wrote:
 hello group -
 running Evolution 3.6.2, and for some reason I am having the following
 issues:
 -Application doesn't quit cleanly.  It hangs and has to be
  killed.

Does it post an error message?

 - Messages that I try to delete get a line through them but
   are not moved out of the inbox message list. This is probably a
   configuration issue.  Shouldn't messages be put into the Delete
   folder?

Depends on the type of account and the configuration.  I use IMAP [to a
real IMAP server, not a cloud service that just emulated IMAP on top of
their own proprietary message store] and I do not see that behavior;
messages deleted are just deleted [lined-out], then deleted messages are
expunged.  Normal and correct IMAP behavior [I've never understood the
trash-folder thing, personally].   

But I believe you can configure a Trash folder in account setup.

 - Question...how do I update passwords to message
   servers.  Should I be prompted or can I store that in the
   configuration.

?? If it does not authenticate you then you will be prompted for a
password.  Passwords are stored in the keyring.  You can access, and
manipulate, the keyring via Seahorse.  If the keyring isn't working your
GNOME installation must be borked somehow.

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