Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
> Gesendet: Montag, 09. Juli 2018 um 09:14 Uhr > Von: "Van Snyder" > An: evolution-list@gnome.org > Betreff: Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up (...) > > the POP3 version when I switched to Linux. Particularly as the > > filtering idea sounds a bit complex. and no need to do it while using IMAP - my two cents ... > > I don't know what the newest version does. I hope it either offers a > menu or radio button, or maybe a "query servers for server types" > button. > > If a service offers both imap and pop protocols, it seems to me that > imap is definitely to be preferred. Could be a good idea, when your provider has setup one address, that can do both - or even EWS or any other protocol stack. But mine has POP.SERVER.DE and IMAP.SERVER.DE - and I guess, I'll not get happy with asking the POP for an IMAP setup ?-:| So we'd better read some instructions before setting up our accounts ? Best, Thomas ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
> It is unhelpful that evolution by default chose pop3 for > use...@yahoo.com. I've just tried to configure a yahoo account and it does it as IMAP on the version I use (3.28.3). I don't know why it chose to use POP for you - I didn't think that POP was the default for anything! > > I don't know what the newest version does. I hope it either offers a > menu or radio button, or maybe a "query servers for server types" > button. Again, this is on the latest stable version, but when you enter the account identity on the configuration pages there is a tick box at the bottom that controls if it tries to look up what to do for that particular email address. (It's a standard DNS lookup feature that most mail providers implement.) I think on previous versions it was a button that allowed you to skip the lookups. If you don't let it automatically choose the account type you get a config page with a drop-down to choose what to use. > > If a service offers both imap and pop protocols, it seems to me that > imap is definitely to be preferred. IMAP is the default AFAICS. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
On Sun, 2018-07-08 at 20:18 +, Siv wrote: > Pete, > > Thanks for the explanation, given that I only have 1 POP3 account I > will just treat "On this computer" as that account. I may redo the > account as IMAP like it was originally as I am not sure why I selected > the POP3 version when I switched to Linux. Particularly as the > filtering idea sounds a bit complex. I also appreciate the explanation. It is unhelpful that evolution by default chose pop3 for use...@yahoo.com. (I don't know which version because it's not my computer, it's a 90 minute drive to visit it, and the owner isn't home anyway. I can ask her for the version when she gets home next week, if it's actually interesting.) I don't know what the newest version does. I hope it either offers a menu or radio button, or maybe a "query servers for server types" button. If a service offers both imap and pop protocols, it seems to me that imap is definitely to be preferred. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
> POP means "post office protocol". The concept behind it is that it > works like the post office: you have a mailbox in the post office > that > all your mail is delivered into and you retrieve it from there. > That's > all it does. You can go and get your mail and parcels from USPS or > UPS > or whoever but they all end up in the same place - your hands! (It's > a > 30 year old protocol, give me some slack!) > > That is why Evolution puts everything into your Inbox "On this > Computer" ready for you to sort through (either physically or > automatically). All Outlook is doing is automatically sorting it > whether you want it to or not. > > P. Pete, Thanks for the explanation, given that I only have 1 POP3 account I will just treat "On this computer" as that account. I may redo the account as IMAP like it was originally as I am not sure why I selected the POP3 version when I switched to Linux. Particularly as the filtering idea sounds a bit complex. Siv ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
> Actually reading the above made me double check the account types and > actually I lied, the account that is missing is a POP3 account (I had > it set up as IMAP originally when it was under Windows 10 and when I > switched to Linux Mint I must have selected POP3) so that would explain > why I can't see it, as under Outlook on Windows, the account does have > its own tree in the left-hand panel. I hadn't realised what the purpose > of "On This Computer" was. Outlook creates a tree for the pop3 account > as well as having "Personal Folders" which I assume is the same as "On > This PC". > > How does this work if you have multiple POP3 accounts do they all > appear as one amorphous mass in "On This PC"? I would think it makes > more sense for Evo to do it the same as Outlook as it's less confusing? > POP means "post office protocol". The concept behind it is that it works like the post office: you have a mailbox in the post office that all your mail is delivered into and you retrieve it from there. That's all it does. You can go and get your mail and parcels from USPS or UPS or whoever but they all end up in the same place - your hands! (It's a 30 year old protocol, give me some slack!) That is why Evolution puts everything into your Inbox "On this Computer" ready for you to sort through (either physically or automatically). All Outlook is doing is automatically sorting it whether you want it to or not. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
On Sun, 2018-07-08 at 11:20 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Pete, > > One EWS account and 2 IMAP accounts, it is one of the IMAP accounts > > that does not display. > > > > A basic question, are all the accounts enabled in Edit->Preferences? > (It's possible to accidentally click on the Enabled tick box and the > account disappears from the list.) They're both enabled. > P. > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
On Sun, 2018-07-08 at 11:43 +, Siv wrote: > How does this work if you have multiple POP3 accounts do they all > appear as one amorphous mass in "On This PC"? I would think it makes > more sense for Evo to do it the same as Outlook as it's less confusing? It's easy to set up filters to do this for you. See Help->Separating POP mail for more than one account. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
> -Original Message- > From: Pete Biggs > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up > Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 11:17:20 +0100 > > > The gmail account is imap. It works. The setup wizard chose pop3 > for > the yahoo account. I pushed the button to check for authentication, > and > it didn't respond. So I tried imap (and changed the server address > to > imap.yahoo.com) and it responded quickly. But the account still > didn't > appear in the left panel. > > When I push the button to send queued mail and refresh inboxes, it > shows > both the yahoo and gmail accounts in the progress window. > > POP accounts don't have their own entry in the side bar. POP as a > protocol sucks mail from a server and the mail actually resides on > your > local machine - with IMAP the mail stays on the server. Consequently > a > POP account (in fact all POP accounts) mail is in the "On This > Computer" folders. > > As for changing the server type - it usually doesn't work well once > things are setup. Try deleting the account and starting again. You > might do well to shutdown Evolution to let things catch up - you may > have to go further (like logging out) since there are some background > processes that may need to re-read the configuration. > > > I think the evolution version is fairly old -- it's whatever is > bundled > with Scientific Linux 6.9. > > Unfortunately there are so many different Linux versions and distros > out there that giving the distro info doesn't mean much to most > people. > > P. > Actually reading the above made me double check the account types and actually I lied, the account that is missing is a POP3 account (I had it set up as IMAP originally when it was under Windows 10 and when I switched to Linux Mint I must have selected POP3) so that would explain why I can't see it, as under Outlook on Windows, the account does have its own tree in the left-hand panel. I hadn't realised what the purpose of "On This Computer" was. Outlook creates a tree for the pop3 account as well as having "Personal Folders" which I assume is the same as "On This PC". How does this work if you have multiple POP3 accounts do they all appear as one amorphous mass in "On This PC"? I would think it makes more sense for Evo to do it the same as Outlook as it's less confusing? Siv ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
> -Original Message- > From: Pete Biggs > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up > Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 11:20:22 +0100 > > > Pete, > One EWS account and 2 IMAP accounts, it is one of the IMAP accounts > that does not display. > > > A basic question, are all the accounts enabled in Edit->Preferences? > (It's possible to accidentally click on the Enabled tick box and the > account disappears from the list.) > > P. There are 5 things in the list, the 3 email accounts which are all ticked and "Search Folders" and "On This Computer" which are both unticked. Siv ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 20:06 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > I think the evolution version is fairly old -- it's whatever is bundled > with Scientific Linux 6.9. See Help->About. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
> Pete, > One EWS account and 2 IMAP accounts, it is one of the IMAP accounts > that does not display. > A basic question, are all the accounts enabled in Edit->Preferences? (It's possible to accidentally click on the Enabled tick box and the account disappears from the list.) P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
> > The gmail account is imap. It works. The setup wizard chose pop3 for > the yahoo account. I pushed the button to check for authentication, and > it didn't respond. So I tried imap (and changed the server address to > imap.yahoo.com) and it responded quickly. But the account still didn't > appear in the left panel. > > When I push the button to send queued mail and refresh inboxes, it shows > both the yahoo and gmail accounts in the progress window. POP accounts don't have their own entry in the side bar. POP as a protocol sucks mail from a server and the mail actually resides on your local machine - with IMAP the mail stays on the server. Consequently a POP account (in fact all POP accounts) mail is in the "On This Computer" folders. As for changing the server type - it usually doesn't work well once things are setup. Try deleting the account and starting again. You might do well to shutdown Evolution to let things catch up - you may have to go further (like logging out) since there are some background processes that may need to re-read the configuration. > > I think the evolution version is fairly old -- it's whatever is bundled > with Scientific Linux 6.9. Unfortunately there are so many different Linux versions and distros out there that giving the distro info doesn't mean much to most people. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 14:15 +, Siv wrote: > I have the same issue with 3 accounts appearing and in the settings but > one not showing in the pane down the left side. This was true under > Mint 18.3 and the older version of Evo. I upgraded to Mint 19 recently > and am now on Evo 3.28.1-2 and the issue is still there. > > -Original Message- > From: Patrick O'Callaghan > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up > Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 10:24:36 +0100 > > On Fri, 2018-07-06 at 19:29 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > I added two mail servers for a friend (one at yahoo.com, the other at > gmail.com). The one for gmail appears in the left panel. The one for > yahoo does not. Everything in its preferences section looks fine. Any > ideas? > > How about stating which version of Evolution your friend has, and what > kind of accounts these are? The gmail account is imap. It works. The setup wizard chose pop3 for the yahoo account. I pushed the button to check for authentication, and it didn't respond. So I tried imap (and changed the server address to imap.yahoo.com) and it responded quickly. But the account still didn't appear in the left panel. When I push the button to send queued mail and refresh inboxes, it shows both the yahoo and gmail accounts in the progress window. I think the evolution version is fairly old -- it's whatever is bundled with Scientific Linux 6.9. Is there a work-around? > poc > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
> -Original Message- > From: Pete Biggs > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up > Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 17:35:17 +0100 > > On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 14:15 +, Siv wrote: > > I have the same issue with 3 accounts appearing and in the settings > but > one not showing in the pane down the left side. This was true under > Mint 18.3 and the older version of Evo. I upgraded to Mint 19 > recently > and am now on Evo 3.28.1-2 and the issue is still there. > > So, to reiterate Patrick, what sort of accounts are they? IMAP, POP, > something else? > > P. > Pete, One EWS account and 2 IMAP accounts, it is one of the IMAP accounts that does not display. Siv ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 14:15 +, Siv wrote: > I have the same issue with 3 accounts appearing and in the settings but > one not showing in the pane down the left side. This was true under > Mint 18.3 and the older version of Evo. I upgraded to Mint 19 recently > and am now on Evo 3.28.1-2 and the issue is still there. So, to reiterate Patrick, what sort of accounts are they? IMAP, POP, something else? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
I have the same issue with 3 accounts appearing and in the settings but one not showing in the pane down the left side. This was true under Mint 18.3 and the older version of Evo. I upgraded to Mint 19 recently and am now on Evo 3.28.1-2 and the issue is still there. -Original Message- From: Patrick O'Callaghan To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 10:24:36 +0100 On Fri, 2018-07-06 at 19:29 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: I added two mail servers for a friend (one at yahoo.com, the other at gmail.com). The one for gmail appears in the left panel. The one for yahoo does not. Everything in its preferences section looks fine. Any ideas? How about stating which version of Evolution your friend has, and what kind of accounts these are? poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
On Fri, 2018-07-06 at 19:29 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > I added two mail servers for a friend (one at yahoo.com, the other at > gmail.com). The one for gmail appears in the left panel. The one for > yahoo does not. Everything in its preferences section looks fine. Any > ideas? How about stating which version of Evolution your friend has, and what kind of accounts these are? poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Mail server doesn't show up
I added two mail servers for a friend (one at yahoo.com, the other at gmail.com). The one for gmail appears in the left panel. The one for yahoo does not. Everything in its preferences section looks fine. Any ideas? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
