Re: [Evolution] Problem transferring address list from desktop to netbook

2015-01-07 Thread B. Ross Ashley
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 02:53:06 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote in Message-ID:
1420595586.24375.0.ca...@gmx.net
 Hi, On Tue, 2015-01-06 at 18:26 -0500, B. Ross Ashley wrote:
 I set up Evolution on that machine, transferred my settings etc.
 via USB, and was able to log in to the choir email account on
 gmail IMAP and receive and send email from it. Tryng to import
 the address book however was not successful, either by copying
 the address book folder or by exporting the desktop's address to
 a vcard and transferring the vcard file to the netbook via USB.

 How did you transfer your settings exactly? Did you use Evolution's
 backup and restore functionality?

 andre
- -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

Yes, I did that.

When it did not work I tried the vcard method, which did not work either.

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[Evolution] Problem transferring address list from desktop to netbook

2015-01-06 Thread B. Ross Ashley
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Hi ---
I've been using Evolution on my desktop for years now, to manage an
email list for my choir. Currently it is Evolution 3.12.7 on an
Xubuntu 14.10 machine.

I have acquired a used EeePC 1000HE, running LinuxMint Cinnamon 17. I
set up Evolution on that machine, transferred my settings etc. via
USB, and was able to log in to the choir email account on gmail IMAP
and receive and send email from it. Tryng to import the address book
however was not successful, either by copying the address book folder
or by exporting the desktop's address to a vcard and transferring the
vcard file to the netbook via USB.

The version of Evolution on the netbook is 3.10.4, if that makes any
difference.

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Re: [Evolution] Problem transferring address list from desktop to netbook

2015-01-06 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,


On Tue, 2015-01-06 at 18:26 -0500, B. Ross Ashley wrote:
 I set up Evolution on that machine, transferred my settings etc. via
 USB, and was able to log in to the choir email account on gmail IMAP
 and receive and send email from it. Tryng to import the address book
 however was not successful, either by copying the address book folder
 or by exporting the desktop's address to a vcard and transferring the
 vcard file to the netbook via USB.

How did you transfer your settings exactly?
Did you use Evolution's backup and restore functionality?

andre
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http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

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Re: [Evolution] Problem with the list?

2011-06-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 00:11 -0600, Akhil Laddha wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 14:24 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 15:02 +0930, Wayne Sierke wrote:
   On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 23:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
   
First I went to the admin page at
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/options/evolution-list (with the idea of
checking if I'd turned off delivery and forgotten about it). Since I had
naturally forgotten my list password, I requested a new copy. Nothing
happened.
   
   Just in case you've forgotten, your original password was included in
   the Welcome message that was sent when you subscribed.
   Wayne
  
  That was many years ago and is long gone.
  
  I eventually got a reply from one of the admins, to the effect that he
  couldn't find me on the members list. He suggested I resubscribe. I
  attempted to do so, but the subscription was rejected on the grounds
  that I was already subscribed!
 
 Your subscription request was rejected because i went ahead and added
 you to the list before you tried to subscribe. Somehow my replies are
 not getting delivered in time. The initial mail where i replied to you,
 delivered to you after 4 days and you thought nobody (admin) cared about
 your email.

OK. I still don't know why my original subscription had disappeared, but
that's life.

  
  I reported all this to the admin. He never replied but after a day or
  two I suddenly started getting list traffic.
 
 I did reply you but mail was bounced with below error
 
 The message that you sent was undeliverable to the following: 
 
 p...@usb.ve (450 p...@usb.ve: Recipient address rejected: 
 Greylisted for 5 minutes)

As I'm sure you know, greylisting is a common anti-spam measure. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting. Our mail server applies it to
every incoming message from sources it hasn't seen before. Legitimate
sources are expected to retry after the timeout (5 minutes) and are
allowed through (where the mail is then examined by SpamAssassin, but
that's not relevant here). This is standard behaviour for MTA's on
seeing a 450 error (mailbox unavailable), but spammers don't bother.
We eliminate 80% of incoming spam this way, as do many other sites.
The odd thing is that that this wasn't the first message you sent me,
and the first one did get through after a long delay, so I wouldn't have
expected this one to be greylisted (although greylisting has its own
timeouts). I'll need to check with our server admin. I'll also ask him
to check his logs and the headers of your messages to see if anything
explains the long delivery times.

Thanks for the clarification in any case.

poc

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[Evolution] Problem with the list?

2011-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Yes, I know list problems should be reported to the admins but I've
already done so and received no response whatever, not even an ACK. See
below.

The situation is as follows: I have seen *no* traffic from the Evo list
since April 10, 2011. I've been very busy in recent weeks and hadn't
noticed, but then I did notice a week or so and tried to find out what
was going on.

First I went to the admin page at
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/options/evolution-list (with the idea of
checking if I'd turned off delivery and forgotten about it). Since I had
naturally forgotten my list password, I requested a new copy. Nothing
happened.

I requested it again. Nothing happened.
(repeat 4 or 5 times over the course of several days while recalling
Einstein's remark that repeating the same experiment over and over and
expecting a different result is a sign of lunacy).

I wrote directly to the list admins indicated on the above page, asking
them to please copy any reply to a personal address in case something
was wrong at my end. Note that I didn't ask them to send the password to
that address, just to confirm that I was still a registered user.

I sent a message (Evo 3 conversion seems flaky) a few days ago,
confirmed that it reached the archives but was not returned to me.

I installed a .forward file in my mail server to copy everything to the
secondary account before any filters could mess with it.

I asked the server admin to check his logs for the past week. Nothing
has been received from the Evo list server.

I'm now sending this to the list as a last resort. If anyone knows of a
problem with the Mailman installation, or has a way of asking the admins
directly, I'd appreciate knowing about it.

Obviously I won't see replies to this via the list (though I'll look at
the archives page from time to time) so please CC me directly. Call it a
special case :-)

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Problem with the list?

2011-06-01 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Well, is strange...  I didn't  read the mail you say but  *this* mail does
came to my inbox so I don't know what is hapening.


Regards
Sylvia



2011/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan

 Yes, I know list problems should be reported to the admins but I've
 already done so and received no response whatever, not even an ACK. See
 below.

 The situation is as follows: I have seen *no* traffic from the Evo list
 since April 10, 2011. I've been very busy in recent weeks and hadn't
 noticed, but then I did notice a week or so and tried to find out what
 was going on.

 First I went to the admin page at
 https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/options/evolution-list (with the idea of
 checking if I'd turned off delivery and forgotten about it). Since I had
 naturally forgotten my list password, I requested a new copy. Nothing
 happened.

 I requested it again. Nothing happened.
 (repeat 4 or 5 times over the course of several days while recalling
 Einstein's remark that repeating the same experiment over and over and
 expecting a different result is a sign of lunacy).

 I wrote directly to the list admins indicated on the above page, asking
 them to please copy any reply to a personal address in case something
 was wrong at my end. Note that I didn't ask them to send the password to
 that address, just to confirm that I was still a registered user.

 I sent a message (Evo 3 conversion seems flaky) a few days ago,
 confirmed that it reached the archives but was not returned to me.

 I installed a .forward file in my mail server to copy everything to the
 secondary account before any filters could mess with it.

 I asked the server admin to check his logs for the past week. Nothing
 has been received from the Evo list server.

 I'm now sending this to the list as a last resort. If anyone knows of a
 problem with the Mailman installation, or has a way of asking the admins
 directly, I'd appreciate knowing about it.

 Obviously I won't see replies to this via the list (though I'll look at
 the archives page from time to time) so please CC me directly. Call it a
 special case :-)

 poc

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Re: [Evolution] Problem with the list?

2011-06-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 11:53 -0300, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
 Well, is strange...  I didn't  read the mail you say but  *this* mail does
 came to my inbox so I don't know what is hapening.

Thanks. I got your reply directly but not via the list, which is
consistent with what's been happening.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Problem with the list?

2011-06-01 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 23:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 First I went to the admin page at
 https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/options/evolution-list (with the idea of
 checking if I'd turned off delivery and forgotten about it). Since I had
 naturally forgotten my list password, I requested a new copy. Nothing
 happened.

Just in case you've forgotten, your original password was included in
the Welcome message that was sent when you subscribed.

You can also try sending a message to evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
with help in the subject or body. If that's working for you (I just
tried it and got a response) then you should be able to manage your
password using that interface.

Interestingly I just browsed my own mailman settings page for this list
and even though I have the Get password reminder email for this list?
option set to Yes, I don't seem to have ever received any. In fact the
last reminder I can find for any @gnome.org lists is from 2004.


Wayne

P.S. This problem is another example of why sending a courtesy copy to
the participants of a discussion is the superior strategy.


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